An Open Letter to the Church Renouncing My Service on I.C.E.L.

Communicantes (Newsletter of the Society of St. Pius X in Canada) ^ | October 2002 | Rev. Fr. Stephen Somerville

[Catholicguy]

<> All real Catholics can, Loyalist. Thanks for the response. We have our disagreements - what family doesn't? - but we ARE a family<>

[Catholicguy]

<> We have a mutual admiration society :)<>

[Catholicguy]

If you weren't so docile..." Again, docility is a virtue. It is the mean between contentiousness and subservience.

<> Damn, that is inspired. Brilliant, pithy,instructive, memorable. Ya know, sometimes you are pretty good:) I suspect you haven't copyrighted that phrase. I aim to steal it<>

[sitetest]

Dear Catholicguy,

"It is the mean between contentiousness and subservience."

It's not mine. You're actually stealing from the late, esteemed Mortimer Adler.

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[Catholicguy]

<> great job...I, also, have NEVER seen evidence Athanasius did such a thing...that would be TOTALLY out character for him. IN the case of Lefebvre, unfortunately, he had a LONG history of disobedience - and he even reneged on a deal with the Pope . If you can't take a man at his word...a signed signature, at that.....P>
Athanasius contra mundum....Lefebvre contra Papa<>

[Catholicguy]

<> Excellent summary. God Bless You. You do pretty well for a stupid Norvus Ordo Papolatrist :)<>

[Catholicguy]

http://rerum-novarum.blogspot.com/

<> This is a link to Mr. McElhinney's web site. He is a former SSPX'er; well read and well spoken. Please check it out<>

[Catholicguy]

I don't know, Steve. I didn't see any direct formal teaching from our Holy Father. I saw what looked to me like some informal comments by the highly-esteemed (at least in my view) Cardinal Ratzinger. It would be a stretch to consider those remarks to be an authoritative teaching. That is good, as far as it goes. You neglected to mention that I agree with the Pope, so, that immeasureably strengthens the binding and authoritative nature of the rteamrks :)<>

[Catholicguy]

<> Our lil' "study group" in Maine used to wonder about Adler. Over time, he moved ever closer to "Poping." I think I recall he became an Episcopalian, did he ever, as rumours had it, "Pope?"

[Catholicguy]

<> Oops...LOL..that just proves you are on a roll. You anticipated my question and answered it before it was asked.<>

[sitetest]

Dear Catholicguy,

Dr. Adler, who died June 28, 2001, was received into the Catholic Church in December 1999 by Bishop Pierre DuMaine, of San Jose, CA.

Here is a link that provides a few other tidbits about the man:

http://www.angelicum.net/html/a_tribute_to_mortimer_adler.html

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[Catholicguy]

I simply say that things are ALWAYS "abnormal."

<> Amen, brother<>

[Catholicguy]

<> Good, as a theiving redskin, I don't feel so bad stealing from the dead :)<>

[sitetest]

Dear Catholicguy,

Just remember what Pablo Picasso had to say about this:

"Good artists copy,
Great artists steal."

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[Catholicguy]

<> Thanks for th elink. He was the man. That was obviously the case even prior to his conversion. Nevertheless, our 'lil group used to speculate when, not if, he would convert.

I also used to wonder why C.S. Lewis never did. I love his writings also. I think one of the greatest,short, books ever written is "The Abolition of Man." It is only about 100 pages but it is powerful and instructive<>

[sitetest]

Dear Catholicguy,

"I also used to wonder why C.S. Lewis never did."

I think that JRR Tolkien was of the opinion that Mr. Lewis was raised in anti-Catholic, Church of Ireland-bigotry, and could never overcome it.

When Mr. Lewis became an Anglican, his friendship with Mr. Tolkien suffered as a result.


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[drstevej]

CS Lewis' esssay "On the Reading of Old Books" is one of my favorites.

[Catholicguy]

<> Hey, I just noticed this thread is threatening 1000 posts. Since I have been a citizen of Freeperville, I don't recall another thread started by a Catholic that has reached this length.

The question I have is this; Should Loyalist get some sort of award for setting this in motion, or should we shun and punish him? :)<>

[St.Chuck]

Athanasius contra mundum....Lefebvre contra Papa<>

Ergo, the SSPX shills lie when they say these two men are similar in similar times. It is slander to bring Athanasius down to Lefebvre's level. Not only do they interpret tradition for themselves, they revise history to suit their needs. No tactic that erodes truth is beyond their ken. You got it....Lefebvre contra Papa, nunc et saecula saeculorum.

[sitetest]

Dear Catholicguy,

"...Should Loyalist get some sort of award for setting this in motion, or should we shun and punish him? :)<>"

If were Muslims, as ultima suggests we ought to be, it would be the latter, or worse. But being Catholics, and remembering Jesus' command to forgive 7 x 70 times, let's just recommend a good confession.

;-)


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