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Posted on 12/04/2002 9:51:50 AM PST by pseudo-justin
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Absolutely, which is why I support RCF, some here have a problem with them, and in an ideal world their tactics would be over the top, but as spiritual warriors, they fight the necessary fight. V's wife.
Catholic universities and "reproductive health"
The Saint Louis Post Dispatch proclaimed approvingly that Saint Louis University "does well in reproductive health survey". The story appeared August 14, 2002, after Catholics For a Free Choice announced the results of a survey of all 191 of the nation's four-year Catholic schools commissioned by CFFC in 2000 - with 165 responding.
Post-Dispatch reporter Susan C. Thomson's story, " Saint Louis University provides more sex-related health services than most other Catholic colleges and universities in the United States, a new study reports", said that the survey, called "Student Bodies: Reproductive Health Care at Catholic Universities" reports that SLU's student health center offered services including sexuality education, pregnancy counseling and screening for HIV and sexually transmitted diseases.
Saint Louis University is a Jesuit institution, founded in 1818.
"Like the vast majority of its peers, SLU did not offer students contraception, which is forbidden by traditional Catholic teaching. But unlike most of them, according to the survey, SLU refers students elsewhere for contraceptive services", Thomson wrote.
"SLU was among the 117 of the schools reporting that they did not make contraception available to students for birth control. Of the 16 schools that did, only two offered a full range of contraceptive drugs and devices.
"Twenty-seven schools, SLU included, responded that they referred students to outside sources such as Planned Parenthood for contraceptive advice".
The CFFC study says: "Clearly, the provision of contraception is a contentious issue on Catholic university campuses, with health care providers torn between responsibility to the students' health and well-being and Catholic doctrine". According to CFFC, Catholic colleges in general endanger students by failing "to integrate sexuality education and treatment into their general health program".
SLU officials could not be reached for comment, Thomson reported. (Susan C. Thomson:/e-mail: email@example.com/Phone: 314-209-1315)
A story by David Crary for Associated Press, published August 10, "Catholic Colleges Debate Sex Policy", reported on other Catholic schools who participated in the CFFC Survey.
Crary wrote, "With sexually active students on their campuses and the Vatican unswervingly opposed to premarital sex, America's Roman Catholic colleges face difficult choices on such sensitive matters as condom use and unwanted pregnancies".
Following are some responses from Catholic university officials Crary interviewed:
"Our doctors understand they're working on the campus of a Catholic college - we don't fill prescriptions for birth control," said Linda Timm, vice president of student affairs at the all-women's St. Mary's College in South Bend, Ind. "But if a student inquires, we'll sit down and discuss the choices involved in being sexually active. Ultimately it's going to be a student's choice what she decides to do off campus regarding birth control."
Of 133 Catholic colleges responding to a survey about health services, only 16 reported making contraceptives available to students, the group said. When contacted by The Associated Press, three of the 16 denied providing contraceptives.
Officials at others among the 16 didn't dispute the survey listing but said there was no formal policy for providing contraceptives. Instead, campus medical professionals had the option of helping students obtain birth control, they said.
"We protect the integrity of the doctor-patient relationship", said Brad Winkler, dean of student development at Aquinas College in Grand Rapids, Michigan. "In the context of that relationship, a physician can prescribe contraception if requested, through the medical plan".
Winkler said the Catholic school believes unmarried students should be chaste, but noted 40 percent of Aquinas's 2,100 students are not Catholic.
"We want to make sure students are aware of the position of the college and Church", he said. "We also want students to have accurate information, and let them make their own decisions".
Several college officials said medical personnel might help individual students obtain contraceptives without the explicit approval of administrators.
"If there are schools that do provide contraceptives, there would be a problem if it became public knowledge", said the Reverend Robert Friday, a religion professor and former vice president of student life at Catholic University in Washington, DC.
Rosanne Zudekoff, communications director at Albertus Magnus College in New Haven, Connecticut, agreed: "No school is going to want to see headlines saying, 'Catholic college gives out condoms'".
Michael James, assistant director of the Association of Catholic Colleges and Universities, suggested any variance with Vatican doctrine was being initiated discreetly by health professionals.
"I'm not aware of any school taking this on with some kind of bravado", he said. Most students at Catholic colleges expect policies that conform with Catholic teaching, he added. "I don't think any student comes to a Catholic campus thinking this is their forum to change the Church".
However, Catholic and non-Catholic students at Georgetown University have formed Hoyas for Choice, which is pressing the school to distribute condoms and be more open about sexual issues.
"The biggest problem is that sex isn't talked about", said Marlo Huang, 21, of Los Angeles, who will be a senior this fall. "It's ridiculous to pretend that college students don't have sex".
Sources: St. Louis Post-Dispatch; Associated Press.
Also, now I got the new Association of Students at Catholic Colleges getting involved. The newly formed organization holds promise for being active in these sorts of things. Their new website (not yet complete) is here:
Catholic doctrine DOES protect a students' "health and well-being". Why do they think that a promiscuous lifestyle with all the wonderful things that go along with it like STD's, emotional turmoil, unplanned pregnancies, etc, promotes "health and well-being". If you follow Catholic doctrine, you won't have to worry about AIDS and dying, you won't have to worry about getting pregnant out of wedlock, and a host of other things.
So? Everyone who chooses to attend a Catholic school should abide by the Catholic doctrines, and chastity is among them.
It was from Shea's blog that I first learned of USF's depraved activity.
Hopefully, more people will keep writing in.
Similarly, the Benedictine-run College of Saint Scholastica in Duluth, Minnesota, has a cozy relationship with the local Planned Parenthood goons:
From a promotional page (!) at their website, we have "What can I do with an undergraduate degree in psychology from St. Scholastica?":
Mary Poepping ('94), Regional Manager for the Central Region of Planned Parenthood in Brainerd.
And lucky psych undergrads at St. Scholastica can do an internship at the local abortuary as a "Sexuality Educator/Health Care Assistant".
If anyone else can gather similar nonsense about "Catholic" Colleges and Universities, please send it to me. Your research efforts will payoff...
Thanks for the alert... I've e-mailed the parties you mention.
However, I have been pleased with the quality of education and the school is non-profit, and almost as inexpensive as the Catholic School (though the Catholic School is further away). My older daughter is exceptionally bright and is thriving in school, and placed in an advanced class. While I'm pretty bright and got straight A's in school, I'm not a very good instructor and I don't have a lot of patience with some things (for example, homework time is very difficult in my home!) I have far more patience for loud, playing kids, messy rooms, and water fights than making kids sit down to do homework!
My second daughter is incredibly social and thrives in school as well. She has a speaking part in the Christmas play, and those kind of things we would miss out on if I homeschooled.
Anyway, it's in the back of my mind and I'm still considering it. I have many friends who homeschool, some who still do and some who quit for different reasons. And, even if I am able to quit my regular job, I'll have to take in work to my home to make ends meet.
I commend all mothers (and fathers!) who homeschool. They are doing a great service for their children. But I'm happy with the education at my kids' school -- I just want to make sure I keep them grounded in their Catholic faith so they don't get indoctrinated by Protestant untruths.
We shall see how long this lasts...and where it goes, but at least the links are removed for now. They are feeling the heat.
Much thanks to all who contributed.
A member of the Association of Students at Catholic Colleges writes to me this:"Last night I e-mailed Fr. Privett, told him that any referrals in the direction of abortion were unacceptable, and gave him a list of about six pro-life pregnancy help centers in San Francisco, San Jose and Oakland. He responded today, saying that the university fully agrees with the Churches teachings on abortion and that he would have the head of student services look into it."
I thought that was a good idea, to show them that there are a number of ways to achieve the same ends without using evil means.
Nonetheless, please have people continue to e-mail the leadership in San Fran...the more heat the better.
Good news. Do you know how to reach any student prolife organization at SFU? We should be including them on our correspondence to the administration staffs.
I do not have the addresses myself, but I am sure that the USF members of the ASCC are on it...that they have been in touch with those groups, if there are any.
Thanks for battling for our "Catholic" Universities.
as an atheist who sees abortion as ritual murder
Your earlier posts gave me the impression that you might view abortion as ritual murder from the point of view of supporting it. Wasn't Sir Francis Dashwood involved in all sorts of occult activities, if my memory of your post serves me correctly?
But isn't it nice, that as an atheist who sees abortion as ritual murder, I can debate the topic within the Republican party and actually have a voice on the issue?
I have to question the idea that it's "nice" to debate ritual murder. One would think that it's the kind of thing that you're either for or against. Like worship of Beelzebub. I wonder if "debate" is really called for.
Good. You're a thinking man. One reason I visit this place is for those who can think. Why poison the young mind and body with comic book pop-culture mentalities of prime time television and garbage food? (Plato's Cave Allegory?)
Your earlier posts gave me the impression that you might view abortion as ritual murder from the point of view of supporting it.
Adolf Hitler used ritual mass murder, why would any sane person support that? Hitler was a Teutonic pagan, his idolatry was an idea of a master race. Every person murdered was a sacrifice to that pagan totem. Abortion is no different.
I have to question the idea that it's "nice" to debate ritual murder.
Nice to have the opportunity to debate it within a political party and advocate ending the grisly practice. Societal summary execution is in no man's best interest, atheist or not.
As for my "namesake," it is irrelevant to the issue. Just an interesting tid-bit of history, if you like Ben Franklin. What would you call an "occult" practice?
I am glad you chose to comment here. Both of the issues are analagous on an existentialist and materialist level.
You should also note, that although I am an atheist, I used two Christian philosophers to support my position(s):
1. Kierkegaard, Søren. The Sickness Unto Death. Trans. Alastair Hannay. New York : Penguin, 1989.
2. Hobbes, Thomas. Leviathan: with selected variants from the Latin edition of 1668. Ed. Edwin Curley. Indianapolis: Hackett, 1994.
I encourage you to do an in forum search of my screen name and visit my FR homepage or this thread Ethereal Explorations. I welcome literary criticism.