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To: restornu; Utah Girl
The Nicene Creed
I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.

Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.



What exactly is it about the Nicene creed that you don't like, rest? Seems to me that this is pretty much what Utah Girl claims she believes about Jesus. What is the problem? Is it the "catholic" part? I admit I have problems with that, but otherwise it seems pretty "orthodox". Where is your objection?
465 posted on 01/30/2003 11:11:32 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Bla! Bla! Bla!!

Please you know the different
and you made a choice
that would fit comfortable
with your life style!

466 posted on 01/30/2003 11:28:21 PM PST by restornu (Clones are homeless!)
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To: P-Marlowe
NOTE: "catholic" is an old word that means "universal" - thus referring to the Body of Christ - a universal manifestation of our Lord.

NOTE2: The catholic church is all believers in Jesus Christ. As the Mormons prefer being called LDS, so the church with its assumed head being the Pope is rightly referred to as the ROMAN Catholic Church, i.e., that part of the universal church with its leadership in Rome, Italy. There is a significant difference.

Therefore, I have no problems using the word "catholic" in the Nicene Creed.

P.S. - you probably knew this, so I simply make the information available to others who may have missed that part of Sunday School.

Grace and peace

486 posted on 01/31/2003 7:53:04 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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