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To: Utah Girl
UC ..Please do not misread me..I have no problem with Church leaders being paid. I do have a problem with condeming others for giving a salary to their Pastors ..and calling their leaders salary an "allowance"..I do have a problem with the lack of accountability..but it is your dime and if you guys do not care that is your business ..but to PRETEND that somehow you are 'holier" or more righteous because you do not use the word 'salary' is hypocricy

BTW most Christian missionaries do NOT get a salary..they come back to the states to raise money by visiting churches and finding sponsers..so your dad did well...

I compared your prophet to the pope and that stands..he lives very well with no numbers being given to the people that pay the bills...

What is it to you if people like a full time 24/7 Pastor and are willing to give him a living allowance so he can be there for them?

When my grandson died the pastor spent 5 days with us.,other than to sleep he was never away..he even drove the body south in the church van..

I think the fact that your President came from "humble" beginings makes it more suspicious looking at his suits and travel..he certainly is not spending "old family money" (except YOUR family money) .

Again I think that is fine but a bit of hyprocicy on bills part not to see the log in the Mormon$ eye on this one

487 posted on 01/31/2003 7:56:33 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Check out Luke 10:7 and 1 Corinthians 9:9
493 posted on 01/31/2003 8:04:17 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: RnMomof7
BTW most Christian missionaries do NOT get a salary..they come back to the states to raise money by visiting churches and finding sponsers..so your dad did well...

My older brother spent 8 months in Kenya working for Africa Inland Missions. He spent a lot of time raising the money needed to cover his expenses. He sure didn't do it to get rich.

He spent the time there setting up an accounting system for them. It wasn't what he thought he was going there for, but it was where God lead him.

496 posted on 01/31/2003 8:06:54 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: RnMomof7
I've never condemned those who make a living with other churches. Never. Serving Heavenly Father 24/7 is a holy calling, and I will NEVER denigrate those who feel the urge to serve in that way. They do much good in this world. Your pastor sounds wonderful, it was a wonderful thing he did for your family when your grandson died.

However, I will set the record straight on my father and others who serve as mission presidents (I have firsthand knowledge of that.) They are provided a home to live in, a car to drive, and a frugal budget. They are called for three years and serve 24/7. The money comes from the tithes of the members of the LDS church. He was very blessed to be called to serve the Lord in this capacity, and did so honorably.

And I do not begrudge any of our leaders anything. You may cast aspersions upon their heads, if they are misspending the money for "nice suits", they will be held accountable for it. Period. It is kind of ironic that you say that poor people can't serve in the LDS church or be called to certain positions because of money, and yet if they have temporal needs, you then cast aspersions because they are taking money from the LDS church for those temporal needs while serving.

For me, it is an act of faith to pay my tithing. I am showing obedience to my Heavenly Father and to Jesus Christ by doing so. I have seen in my life blessings for paying tithing, I have seen how that tithing money is spent. It is not wasted, the people administering the money are very careful and prayerful in their decisions. It is also an act of faith to trust in the Lord and in those whom he has directed to use tithes properly. Audits do go on in the LDS church, each ward is accountable for the money that comes in and is spent, each stake is, and so on up the line.

But I think it is more titillating to say that the figures aren't made public, so of course some hanky panky MUST be going on. I like to have more trust than that.

519 posted on 01/31/2003 3:11:13 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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