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Priest (Fr. Benedict Groeschel) plays down abuse crisis; helps clergy keep jobs
Dallas Morning News | 3/2/2003 | Brooks Egerton

Posted on 03/02/2003 8:54:18 AM PST by sinkspur

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Groeschel was complicit.
1 posted on 03/02/2003 8:54:18 AM PST by sinkspur
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sigh...
2 posted on 03/02/2003 10:56:00 AM PST by Polycarp
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This article is a hit piece. A worthless piece of trash.
3 posted on 03/02/2003 11:00:52 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: sinkspur
Could this still happen?

My take on this media circus is not so much the abuse (although it is detestable) ..Abuse could and does happen everywhere today..the issue is in the coverup and the indifference to the potential future victim

This priest is in a state of denial IMHO

4 posted on 03/02/2003 11:05:39 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Siobhan
I saw these articles and my heart sank, but upon review, I think you're right.

Thanks.

5 posted on 03/02/2003 11:06:27 AM PST by Polycarp
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To: Siobhan
This article is a hit piece. A worthless piece of trash.

Do you have any comments as to why Groeschel chose not to comment to the writer of this article?

Oh, I forgot. Groeschel blames the media for the sexual abuse crisis.

It's best left under the rug.

I've got another article that I will have to type in, but it details how a Dallas priest, Fr. Richard T. Brown, identified by the bishop of Dallas as a sexual perpetrator (the bishop of Dallas, no less), was relieved of duty in Dallas, and then went to work with Father John Hardon (yes, the Father Hardon), and helped him lead retreats for adults in Detroit.

6 posted on 03/02/2003 11:08:19 AM PST by sinkspur
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the issue is in the coverup and the indifference to the potential future victim

It sure is in my own diocese, but us laity are getting the upper hand here finally: Altoona-Johnstown Diocese muzzles priests [threat of excommunication]: "Bishop must end cover-up" ^

7 posted on 03/02/2003 11:09:00 AM PST by Polycarp
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You certainly seem to draw perverse pleasure out of impugning orthodox/conservative Catholic priests.

Why?

8 posted on 03/02/2003 11:11:01 AM PST by Polycarp
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It turns out that Groeschel doesn't even have the requisite license to practice as a "counseling psychologist" in New York.

Lots and lots of cover-up still goin' on.

9 posted on 03/02/2003 11:14:40 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Polycarp
Good Luck.. only fungus and mold grows in the dark..Light always brings new life !
10 posted on 03/02/2003 11:18:56 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Polycarp
You certainly seem to draw perverse pleasure out of impugning orthodox/conservative Catholic priests.

How is it orthodox or conservative to minimize or shift blame for the sexual abuse of children by priests? Or to berate victims when they come to you for help?

Is it any wonder that this stuff kept on happening? Not even a saintly man like Groeschel saw how perverse it was to keep putting these guys back in situations where they could abuse children again!

11 posted on 03/02/2003 11:19:08 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: RnMomof7
Did ya make it to church today in the ice and snow?
Steve
12 posted on 03/02/2003 11:30:44 AM PST by drstevej (The Compassionate THttABTSFitIotCRbtLaDJC)
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To: sinkspur
Their are both the seal of the confessional as well as psychologist/patient privilege at work here. You know that.

This is just an attack on a holy man, and you can't wait to attack another holy priest, may he rest in peace.

13 posted on 03/02/2003 11:39:27 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: sinkspur
There are both the seal of the confessional as well as psychologist/patient privilege at work here. You know that.

This is just an attack on a holy man, and you can't wait to attack another holy priest, may he rest in peace.

14 posted on 03/02/2003 11:39:43 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: sinkspur
It turns out that Groeschel doesn't even have the requisite license to practice as a "counseling psychologist" in New York.

You accept this as fact because it is printed in a newspaper article? Come on. Everyone is smarter than that, sinkspur.

15 posted on 03/02/2003 11:41:51 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: sinkspur
He described the problem as "active homosexuality with minors," stressing that most victims were teenagers and never mentioning girls.

In the whole of the Catholic Church in the US, this problem does not concern large numbers of priests, though it is very hurtful. The article is written to make it sound like Fr. Groeschel is blowing the problem off, when it seems to me he's only putting it into perspective. The above quote shows where the majority of the problems lie, and that can only be solved by weeding out those men during their Seminary training when it shows up, and it always does.

He may have sent a few priests back to active ministry, but remember, the most egregious of these molesters are usually described as nice men who are very popular in their Parishes. They could very well have snowed the therapists into thinking they were just fine and could be trusted again.

16 posted on 03/02/2003 11:43:08 AM PST by SuziQ
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Groeschel was complicit.

You make this sort of declaration with only a newspaper story or two to back it up. That is truly pitiful and reprehensible, sinkspur.

17 posted on 03/02/2003 11:44:21 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: Polycarp
Don't let your heart sink over this garbage. This is the sort of perverse journalism that delights some on FR. It is a hit piece through and through.

No the records are clear and obvious on Bishop Hubbard in Albany, Bishop Imesch, and we all know about Cardinal George letting Al Sharpton preach at St. Sabina's (TALK ABOUT OUTRAGE). And we know about Bishop Adamec who has been proven to be one of the worst human beings in the episcopate. But Father Groeschel is a great and living saint, and this sort of assault on him is just like that drunkard Christopher Hitchens bitter attack on Mother Teresa. In the end it is more revealing about the author's agenda than it is about the person they are attacking.

Mary, Queen of All Saints, pray for us.

18 posted on 03/02/2003 11:55:52 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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This is just an attack on a holy man, and you can't wait to attack another holy priest,

A holy man who recommended that child abusers be put back into the active ministry.

19 posted on 03/02/2003 11:59:30 AM PST by sinkspur
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But Father Groeschel is a great and living saint.

Do saints berate victims of sexual abuse?

20 posted on 03/02/2003 12:01:57 PM PST by sinkspur
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