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Bishop: "Let chaos storm! When will it stop, change after change in liturgy? Never!"
Catholic Diocese of Dodge City ^ | Most Rev. Ronald M. Gilmore, Bishop of the Diocese of Dodge City

Posted on 05/09/2003 8:41:20 AM PDT by Polycarp

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To: Polycarp
No. The Pope, like every bishop I've read about, believed that sexual abuse of minors was a weakness, which could be overcome with prayer and a change of scenery. And, in fact, the psychiatrists believed that, too.

The fate of the victims was not as important as the well-being of the priests involved.

101 posted on 05/12/2003 2:34:23 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Thank you for this clarification. My apologies for misrepresenting your position.

Please see my Freepmail. Good nite.
102 posted on 05/12/2003 2:44:15 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: Polycarp
Polycarp,I would like to be ping if you are talking about me as I have never talk about you behind your back,someone pinged me to this thread.Is ninenot
a priest,
103 posted on 05/20/2003 12:17:24 AM PDT by fatima (Go Karen,Look at all these's prayers.For all our troops,we love you.)
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To: Polycarp
"When will it stop, this change after change after change in our liturgy? Will it never end? In a word, No." ""Let chaos storm!" "I trust we shall soon feel at ease with the drape and the feel and the fit."

But isn't he contradicting himself?? The change is good and ongoing and should be. When will he feel at ease? At that point, won't he want it to stop? Or is it that he will stop it when it suits him, and tell his parish that that is the time to stop. And what about other parishes? Will they find the fit 'sooner' or 'later'? Chaos is what he will get.

104 posted on 08/28/2003 7:22:29 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: TotusTuus
LOL!

Are you at a Byzantine parish?

105 posted on 08/28/2003 7:23:55 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: B-Chan
LOl! Can't stop laughing...
106 posted on 08/28/2003 7:26:06 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Polycarp
Bishop of the Diocese of Dodge City

I think he misread it as Sheriff of Dodge City, and made himself the law. I hope the good people of Dodge City have called in for back up.

107 posted on 08/28/2003 7:29:00 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: fortunecookie
Are you at a Byzantine parish?

Yes!


108 posted on 08/28/2003 8:58:38 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: fortunecookie
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
109 posted on 08/28/2003 10:31:26 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: TotusTuus
My mother was raised in the Byzantine tradition and had many Orthodox relatives as well. It's a beautiful tradition. I am able to attend (about an hours drive away) occasionally, however don't get there as often since we lost my mom 4 yrs ago.
110 posted on 08/29/2003 2:15:51 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: american colleen
And this is something I wonder about as well... where did the handholding and palms held up and out during the Our Father come from?

It was explained to me, by a priest at a retreat a couple of years ago, that this was a long ago traditional way to pray.

Personally, I like it. Unless I am with a family member, I don't really care to hold hands and do the "kum-by-ya" thing trying to reach and grasp for one another across the ailes...it gets pretty distracting.

And it's kinda practical during cold season too :)

111 posted on 01/04/2004 12:20:49 PM PST by kstewskis (52 more days until Lent and "The Passion" is released...and no I am NOT giving up Mel for Lent!)
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