Neoconservatism, not libertarianism, is the true aberration on the American Right

Charleston City Paper ^ | 2010-04-07 | Jack Hunter aka Southern Avenger

[NeoCaveman]

I'm not for kicking anyone out of the tent. With that said, you don't pick your pope from among the converts.

Bennett is incredibly bright albeit way too statist. Horowitz really gets what we are up against being a red diaper doper baby himself. And Reagan was the closest thing we've had to a conservative president since Calvin Coolidge.

[Notary Sojac]

The problem is that when we draw down in Iraq and Afghanistan, leaving a "response force" in Kuwait, we leave the jihadis free to move somewhere else, with their ideological and financial lifelines from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and, yes, Kuwait, alive and thriving.

It's an endless game of whack a mole, where we never look under the table to stop the moles from breeding.

[bamahead]

Classical Liberalism is more concerned about INDIVIDUAL freedoms than international affairs.

I would agree this is an equal concern, sure. But classical liberalism is just as much about promoting and about propagating free enterprise worldwide as it is promoting freedom of the individual. At the very core of the philosophy is that the two are not mutually exclusive....but are in fact wholly dependent.

Prosperity results in liberty for more individuals. Most conservative, liberty grounded political philosophies recognize this, but differ substantially on the methods and policies that should be used to get there.

[ronnyquest]

I contend that they are pseudo-conservatives, rather than neo-conservatives.

By way of clarification: Rather than “new” conservatives, which implies that they are simply the next generation of conservatives, I contend that they are “false” conservatives; that is, not really conservative at all.

How’s that for semantics?

[ChrisInAR]

Someone define “neoconservative” for me.

You can find the definition in this book, which was written by the godfather of Neoconservatism:

NEOCONSERVATISM:
The Autobiography Of An Idea

It has the same relationship to true conservatism that Black Liberation Theology does to the Gospel of Christ.

[ChrisInAR]

Libertarians arguments all resolve to “I want to smoke dope”

What business is it of yours if I do?

Your ignorant, yet oh-so-common insult shows that you have the same intellect that the liberals & progressives who trash Sarah Palin do.

[Dead Corpse]

Well, maybe if you actually took the time to understand what they are REALLY about, instead of the lies you are spouting, you wouldn't feel that way.

As it is, I can only assume you are just another idiotic troll with nothing better to do.

[Dead Corpse]

All part and parcel under the same umbrella term as far as I'm concerned.

If you are FOR bigger and expanded government, you are no Conservative. Period.

[NeoCaveman]

If you are FOR bigger and expanded government, you are no Conservative. Period.

Right on.

[Dead Corpse]

A "few" Right-wing bounces?

Like real RKBA? Like real laissez-faire capitalism? Like real limited government? Like real personal responsibility? Like real property Rights?

You still don't have a clue. You don't win an argument against rabid individualists by invoking collectivist/socialist imagery. You just make yourself look retarded.

[hellbender]

What happens if other countries in the world do not share your beliefs in free trade and laissez faire? 19th-cent. Britain was able to become enormously wealthy and to spread the gospel of free trade over most of the world solely because it had the world's best navy and could keep trade routes open. The young United States had to build a navy to keep its merchant sailors safe from Islamic pirates. Today we engage in so-called free trade with nations which are really mercantilist, like Red China, which does not simply peacefully buy what it wants; it steals technology and sends its agents around the world to gain exclusive control of critical raw materials like rare earths, and builds up its offensive warmaking capability.

Too many libertarians are ideologues who spout abstract dogma and ignore the lessons of history.

[ChrisInAR]

If you want a decent essay on libertarianism, read this pamphlet that was written in 1850 by a man that libertarians & strict constitutions like myself hold in high refard:

http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

Please pay special attention to the Preface, because I think it is very impoertant these days.

Notice also how Mr. Bastiat, who was a member of the French legislature, praises the United States. My only disagreement w/ him is that he didn't think that women should have the right to vote, but other than that I think his words are spot-on. It sends "a thrill up my leg" every time I read it!

[rbmillerjr]

Dope is against the law for good reason.

I’ll will report any dope smokers, injectors or snorters in my neighborhood.

I love how breaking the law for illegals is bad, yet Libertarians think they are special.

Libertarians are not libertarian by definition by the way, and far from conservative.

[rbmillerjr]

“I would use the term “neo con” to refer to someone who supports undeclared wars, with undefined enemies, and rules of engagement which guarantee our troops will be pinned down for decades.”

Like Vietnam, Korea, Grenada, Panama, Iraq,

...also like Al Qeada...

Libertarians can play that game but they are nothing but liberals to me.

[Dead Corpse]

Dope is against the law for good reason.

Because it helps prop up the Nanny State and keeps the money flowing for ever more government.

Nice going jackass.

[Dead Corpse]

Libertarians can play that game but they are nothing but liberals to me.

That's only because you like bigger government as long as it's YOUR type of bigger government.

[ChrisInAR]

Dope is against the law for good reason.

So is the use &/or addiction to nicotine & alcohol.

[rbmillerjr]

Drugs are for liberal losers and conservative losers.

A loser is a loser lol.

[ChrisInAR]

I’M SORRY...I misread your post (I thought it said “OF reason”, not “for a reason”. My bad!!!!!!!!!!

I’m legally blind, so I tend to misread things. Sorry about that.

[rbmillerjr]

“That’s only because you like bigger government as long as it’s YOUR type of bigger government.”

I find it amusing when dopeheads attempt to hide behind the ruse of limited government.

I’m for limited government, “no government” doesn’t work.