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To: Notary Sojac

>> We are going after the foot soldiers of the enemy while their ideological and financial support structures in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia remain inviolate.

I agree in part ... though the individual nature of attacks on the American homeland (including a huge attack carried out by 19 people) necessitates that we take out the “foot soldiers”.

>> If you think that only the likes of Rachel Maddow are entitled to make this point, I strongly beg to differ.

You have the right to make whatever point you’d like ... though if, in a discussion of foriegn policy, I found myself surrounded by Rachel Maddow and Amy Goodman, I’d likely re-think my position.

>> I’ll know the war is being won when I can carry my Leatherman on an airliner again, when the metal detectors come down at the Smithsonian, and the concrete barriers disappear from Pennsylvania avenue. Care to speculate on the time frame for those events??

Your definition of “victory” includes metal detector placement at the Smithsonian?

Terrorist attacks have revealed vulnerabilities — is it your belief that those vulnerabilities should be restored as a sign of victory? Is it ever a good idea for us to forget the lessons of the last war? If Islamic terrorists can attack and destabilize via hijacked airliners or individual suicide bombers, so can other enemies (China, Iran, Russia, whomever).

SnakeDoc


47 posted on 04/08/2010 10:25:00 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: SnakeDoctor
The way you make the country "less vulnerable" is by swift and decisive reaction against any country that attacks Americans or provides support to a terrorist group attacking Americans.

Not by putting restrictions on the activities of American citizens within their home country.

And yes, the little things, like metal detectors, searches, and ID checks in dozens of places Americans of my father's generation never knew, tick me off.

They are a symbol of our willingness to harass the good guys because we don't have the willpower to kill the bad guys.

52 posted on 04/08/2010 10:36:17 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: SnakeDoctor
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Your definition of “victory” includes metal detector placement at the Smithsonian?

Those metal detectors send the message that we are terrorized. That for the moment, at least, the other side has won.

53 posted on 04/08/2010 10:38:29 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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