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We didn't really believe the Idaho sportsman who called our office to complain their hunting and fishing privileges were being curtailed by the United Nations.
The Clinton adminisration has adopted some unpopular land-use policies in the West, but surely the UN does not have jurisdiction over some of our nations most treasured natural and historical sites.
Could a bureaucrat at the World Body really tell the United States what to do with Yellowstone Park?
It turns out the sportsman is right--and wrong.
But the issue they raised also cut to the heart of the never-ending debate over the care and preservation of still-unspoiled areas of the Great American West.
The current controversy began in 1973, during the Nixon administration, when the Senate ratified a treaty with the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).
Barely noticed at the time, the treaty gave UNESCO the rights to designate some 67 sites as historically important.
Sites listed include Yellowstone National Park, the Statue of Liberty and the University of Virginia. In all, more than 51 million acres of the United Stats land fall under UNESCO designation.
This doesn't play well in the West, where ranchers and hunters are ever-suspicious of government attempts to encroach on their land-use privileges.
Although UNESCO doesn't have an enforcement arm, Nixon's treaty pledges that the United States will care for these sites according to United Nations guidelines.
Very few Westerners appreciate being told what to do by a group of elected officials from more than 100 countries around the globe.
Enter the Clinton administration. The first family had barely moved into the White House when Clinton angered Western lawmakers by trying to reform ancient grazing land and mining laws that environmentalists believe are ludicrously outdated and harmful.
Things came to a head in 1995, when UNESCO tried to wield influence over the proposed New World Mine near Yellowstone. The mine was to be located on private property adjacent to the park, but environmentalists saw a dangerous precedent being set and wanted desperately to protect the parks "buffer zone."
UNESCO sided with the environmentalists, and so did the Clinton administration when it ponied up $65 milion to buy the land from the mining company and preserve it for future generations.
That was too much for some lawmakers to take. Rep Helen Chenoweth (R-Idaho), and others quickly introduced the American Land Sovereignty Protection Act, which seeks to remove the United Nations influence over domestic land-use decisions.
Sources at the World Body (United Nations) say the proposed bill is ludicrous.
For one, they argue, preservation sites are only designated with the approval of affected property owners, plus local and national authorities.
Sources in Chenoweth's office tell us that state and local governments are rarely consulted before a historic site is designated, and that such decisions are usually made by unelected Federal bureaucrats at the Department of Interior or higher-up.
It's too early to tell if the Chenoweth bill will even get a vote in the current Congress.
But if it does, consider it yet another signal that Clinton's War on the West has proven to be almost as difficult as the one being fought in Kosovo.
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I urge you to learn ALL about it and how it has already taken The State of Florida and looks simultaneously driven in the Central Appalachian Mountain Region. A multiple of environmental literature demanding various reserves or national parks interconnect with corridors.
Doug Fiedor, greatly concerned about the Appalachian Mountains take-over near his home in Kentucky, sites that over 67% of the United States private property, American Rivers and National Parks have been taken by the UN --and continues to write about it in his HEADS UP weekly newsletter.
In Texas, very few even know about their taking both the Rio Grande which runs all the way through Texas down to the Mexican border, and the Brazos River --
These are madmen yet many of our elected Governors (included Jeb Bush and George W. Bush have turned their backs, ignoring these Treaties now in Texas tightening their grip on land-use.
"Very few Westerners appreciate being told what to do by a group of elected officials from more than 100 countries around the globe."
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DOES THE UN CONTROL OUR PARKS? http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3740387e206f.htm
Capecodder: Know this new story by Jack Anderson will interest you. You can be very helpful if you will add your two cents to the continuing dismantling of our country by the United Nations intersets.
An update on your fight to sustain your area will be an inspiring addition for us, as these Audubons and Sierra Clubs, Earth First and Northern Forest Forums stalk across America gobbling up U.S. private property.
Clinton has vowed to take 50 American Rivers this year.
He and Gore gave their list to the Washington Times at their latest photo-op as they turned another 13 rivers over to the "care" of the United Nations.
People, start calling! I have been calling and telling people for over three years now. Get the UN out of the USA, and the USA out of the UN!....Will George Bush get our country back? Question him. How come the Newspapers have not printed anything about this?
***How come the newspapers have not printed anything about this?***
One of the media's jobs is to keep a lid on all controversial subjects until "finalization of conversion" is accomplished. My best guess is that finalization will end somewhere around April, 2000. Once the scope of our turnover is begun to be realized by the citizenry, it will be too late. The gate will be closed on this aspect. The problem remains - what to do with an armed citizenry. The disarmament agenda could start taking place anytime after Sept., 1999.
I believe you already know what the media and the press are. My words can hardly describe them whithout profanity so I'll pass.
***How come the newspapers have not printed anything about this?***
One of the media's jobs is to keep a lid on all controversial subjects until "finalization of conversion" is accomplished. My best guess is that finalization will end somewhere around April, 2000. Once the scope of our turnover is begun to be realized by the citizenry, it will be too late. The gate will be closed on this aspect. The problem remains - what to do with an armed citizenry. The disarmament agenda could start taking place anytime after Sept., 1999.
I believe you already know what the media and the press are. My words can hardly describe them whithout profanity so I'll pass.
"Will George Bush get our country back? Question him."
Hell NO he won't get our country back! Have you seen his newest claim to be the "techno-candidate?" advocating sharing of tech with the world? This UN take over of public lands is taking place in Texas, as both major rivers are now in the protective grasp of the UNESCO. And GW is following the leader like a good little robot! We need someone with some cojones. And Dubya ain't IT!
"How come the Newspapers have not printed anything about this?"
Because the Newspapers are in the dark. And because they are being controlled in large part by the same socialists who are perpetrating this garbage!
WE MUST GET OUT OF THE UN. And we MUST get the UN out of this country! TODAY! People keep asking why we are so adamant about Billy Jeff getting out of the White House today. Why not just hang tight? He will leave soon anyway! My answer is that he is working feverishly to get his agenda accomplished with every passing day. (In case Gore should lose, and there will not be time later.) He has done more harm to this country since our GOP leaders decided to wimp out and didn't force his impeachment, than any other force our country has ever faced. His threat to our sovereignty is much stronger than even the wars we have been through! We MUST get him fired and replaced with someone who has some idea of WHY we are the Great country we have become. The Constitution said nothing about giving away control of our military (depleted as it is) our national treasures, or any part of our national heritage to foreign concerns. It damned surely said nothing about sharing our national defense secrets with our enemies, and it surely did not sanction disarming the citizenry!
RURIK: You and me babe. This must be the 10th or more post I have done on this topic.
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for us. RURIK WE ARE the greatest media ever. Never mind relying on anyone but the Washington Post to follow these two scumbags around turning our Rivers and national parks and anything attached to one of these National Parks --always PRIVATE property is also taken.
There were 2000 property owners marching down in the Keys in Florida not so long ago, protesting against the confiscation and flooding of their house, mines, malls, companies and buildings belonging to them. You and me!
Few people know, when it hits their area that Dr. Michael Coffman just spoke in 5 Texas cities on this growing problem. Check out his credentials on his website above. GET YOUR MAPS. If they so much as snoop around your back yard looking for a "rare" weed or bug, call Dr. Coffman. He will help you at any stage you are in, any situation --he's been on both sides of this insane maddening hopless and helpless situation.
Call him and he will come--nominally for plane fare and a coupla bucks. GET YOUR MAPS. Get the maps of the Regions Get the map of the United States.
Mine is of the U.S. and the lines in red and globs of red designating their take-over ----IF IT WERE BLOOD and if the map were the palm of my hand I WOULD BE BLEEDING TO DEATH.
But, Dr. Coffman stopped the last try in the Senate to ratify this horrendous project. Just in the nick of time --Many concerned people, names you have heard of including Helen Chenoweth have articles there, available to you. A heavy contributor is Eagle Forum Eagle Phyllis Schafly. Books and pamphlets so nominally priced just over the mailing and printing costs.
HOLD MEETINGS. Distribute the pamphlets, go door to door. The only way we loose on this is apathy.
Thanks for your posts RURIK.
The rest of you, go up on the roof and yell it out! Then call Dr. Coffman.
I will not list his affiliations, associations, degrees, Ph.Ds, in and outside the government --Those fools made him head of his Maine Take-over and when he saw what they were trying to do, he jumped to the other side to save Maine.
Then he started getting desperate calls from other states and he is so honorably dedicated, so impressive with his knowledge.
People all over America are very upset about this, but only AFTER it hits them. We can fight this. They intend to do things and take millions and millions of acres of our entire country under the guise of saving wolverines --and more.
After we stop the bleeding, we can take care of these buggers. But for your information, there are 500 national and international environmentalist organizations already working overtime with the EPA and the Interior Department on their side.
Your state is not only on the map, but the takeover has begun. Last year --as a matter of fact.
They have even taken the East River in New York, the Potomac! The list is so enormous. I posted it only once and no one could believe it.
Had the article not come from a photo-op printed along with the story by Wes Pruden in The Washington Times, everyone would have thought I got it from some conspiracy website.
No way.
The Washington Times even ran a picture of Clinton and Gore making the announcement--some small river in the South.
Coffman has all the info and his people keep on top of it every minute.
The main reason I cannot back George W. is because of his Global Warming and allowing them to turn over The Rio Grande and the Brazos River. Didn't want to be outdone by Jeb giving over the Everglades.
What is happening, actually, is that they are turning America into an archipelago of human-inhabited islands. Surrounded by natural areas. But no one can conceive of the multitude of this project. It will make you sick when you find out on EPI site.
They've stepped it up while Bill lets the Juanita Brodderick tapes run and Hillary runs for the Senate and Al Gore is out there making a fool out of himself (again.) They are at it.
Just a friendly reminder:
In Texas, very few even know about their taking both the Rio Grande which runs all the way through Texas down to the Mexican border, and the Brazos River --
The Rio Grande does not run "all the way through Texas to the Mexican border". It is the border between Texas and Mexico, never running through Texas at all, only as a border.
Trailer Trash: What a gorgeous brilliant post. I recommend everyone go to his post and get the full details only crudely outlined here.
It is in fact, a masterpiece.
Thanks Trailer Trash for pointing us in the right direction --had I known of this post of yours I would have brought it back up and you should do so at least once a month! All of my posts on this topic do not add up to the extensive research on your post.
It so clearly asks the question, by its overwhelming content and information--why we should never even dream of casting our vote for someone who will not get us out of the UN and the UN out of the US. And swear on their children's heads that that they will follow with us back to the Constitution of the United States. They must so comply with its laws and spirit entirely, never stopping, never ceasing.
Thank you again for bringing this into such keen and excellent focus.
From all I remember reading, the bioiversity and corridors projects were given the authorization of implementation as part of the NAFTA/GATT treaties. The only people I remember at the time warning us against it were Ross Perot(go figure) and Alan Keyes. Few of our favorite politicians say little about it anymore. I think the only way out is the proposed Sovereignty Act. Helen Chenowith(R-Idaho) is spearheading this legislation I believe.
bioiversity=biodiversity
For your attention....
i have heard this also - they call them international bio-spheres - and this more of klintons crap allowing this to happen - get the us out of the UN and then tell the UN to get out of the country
deepsix: There are only two criteria we must ask of a candidate for President of the United States.
***(1)To get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US.
***(2) He must swear on his childrens head that he will adhere absolutely to the Constitution of the United States of America.
The rest is all trivia.
"If the citizens of America come to accept the absolutely systematic trivialization of political life that the chatter of our elites invites, we will have ceased to take serious thought for our own self-government, and soul of the regime---government of, by and for a reflective and rational people---will be gone."
---Alan Keyes
Mzs12Gauge: Ronald Reagan, when he was President of the United States ordered a thorough investigation of UNESCO --He found out, after the research he ordered that the organization was so corrupt especially in its finances, unaccounted for --he ordered its collapse. It was then disposed. Closed down. No longer existed.
It was Bill Clinton who resurrected UNESCO.
martian622: All that information (and you are right) is on the website, mentioned above www.epi.freedom.org
Some of the details are in the final paragraphs of this post researched and commented upon by Jack Anderson, the reporter here,
Thanks for your post. Right on.
The American Rivers United Nations project takes 20 miles each side of the banks of the Rivers it designates. A new law just enacted by Clinton now takes 150 miles on this side of the Mexican border as well. They call that the Wildlands Project.
The Rio Grande 1800 miles from SW Colorado and central New Mexico, comes into Texas at El Paso and flows all the way to Brownsville into Mexico.
They have also taken the Pecos. I have already mentioned the Brazos as well.
Big Bend National Park is also now United Nations. They have also designated I-35 as a major Corridor - they will broaden it to a tremendous truck route several miles wide, no personal autos allowed. Probably to truck in their drugs all the way to Duluth, Minnesota.
This is not all of Texas they are taking. They are turning the U.S. into an archipelago of human inhabited islands. Millions and millions of acres! 242 million acres for gizzly bears alone! 200 million acres for wolverines and 100 million acres for wolves.
They do not want 9 billion people on this planet. In there plans, there is room for only 1 billion throughout the world. I told you they are madmen. But that is their plan and it has already begun. Doug Fiedor figures 67% of the United States is already under United Nations control.
Please investigate this. If we are to stop it, we have to find all the information readily available! Please.
"They have even taken the .........., the Potomac!"
Yep! The finest bass fishing waters in the U.S. will soon require a "blue" stripe on your fishing license.
Well, let's see...They've taken our money, they've taken the children, they are finishing the process of taking our guns and next they'll come for our bass boats.
I said it last here year and I'll say it again...They'll take my bass boat and rods when they learn to swim with internal 7.62 plastic worm weights.
After looking at the corridor maps some time ago, the plan became pretty clear. Pockets of human habitation surrounded by dedicated non-human wildlife preserves, precluded anybody from leaving society to live a saner life in the wilderness. With all frontiers of "pioneer" living cut-off and restocked with wolves, bears, mountain lions and other natural predators, the exclusive human habitation zones become natural holding areas. With no means of self-defence allowed and no tresspassing "out of bounds" the new society is dependantly imprisoned. With the UN dictating all cultural, educational and population requirements, utopia will be achieved for the elites.
I have thought this over and have decided not to vote for their plan. I would urge others to protest in the most forceful means available to them. The dividing-up and subjugation of N.America would have more than questionable Constitutional violations.
IMHO, this will be the final process to complete global marxism. Any other name for this goal is window dressing. Many involved in this scheme will not realize the true nature of the outcome until it's too late.
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-had I known of this post of yours I would have brought it back up and you should do so at least once a month! All of my posts on this topic do not add up to the extensive research on your post.
Au contrair. I'm very happy to see this subject shoot across our bow once again, and could care less who posted it. I provided the old thread because it has numerous links provided by me, Brian Mosley and others.
Please feel free to pirate the HTML/ re-post , print and pass around,or whatever. I desire zero credit for anything on this forum. All I want are the facts.
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About a year ago I posted a an article titled Y2Y(Yellowstone 2 Yukon) vs. Y2K. It didn't get a hit. Perhaps the reality is finally beginning to sink in.
Trailer Trash: Often a post needs a couple of go-rounds or increased interest when it actually hits home.
Although I have posted UN and US Biosphere Programs in various forms, some of them take off like gangbusters and others lie dormant.
But, Trailer Trash, don't forget the lurkers. Add your e-mail(I forgot to notice whether you did or not), the idea is to get the word out, not always gauged by the amount of responses.
That post of yours on this same topic should have been bumped a hundred times if necessary. Had I seen it, I would have helped you do that because it is so important and vital we also judge our presidential candidates on this topic.
What on earth could be more important than taking the land, rivers and monuments by a foreign "government"--
Often just a change in a headline, but this one by Jack Anderson is excellent.
This is probably more important than the Y2K, but as you said they dovetail.
Coffman also has some interesting articles and I have posted at least four of them. His website is also a wealth of knowledge (not that you haven't covered all bases elegantly and completely)
Yet, strangely enough, some lurkers e-mail me they have never heard about this before.
Maybe the answer is to spell out what each individual Governor has allowed. What each of these 500 environmentalists have done, and the government agencies like EPA.
If we had merely put "Hillary" somewhere in the headline, we would have attracted millions. We are so brainsoaked in apathy. Courtesy of Tavistock which, of course, is the propaganda network of the United Nations.
If you do not have the maps, they are all on Coffman's website which some outstanding freerepublic poster has just linked.
Jack Anderson's article is excellent only in that he has discovered this travesty. I have tried many times to get Wes Pruden to do an extensive series on this but I did not have the depth of research your post has collected and run so beautifully.
You should send it to him. He is editor-in-chief of the Washington Times
I would opt for the Times in D.C. because it is now the largest selling newspaper in D.C. and while WND would gobble it up, many of the Senators whom Coffman stopped from ratifying this bill did not know nor had they ever heard of it. The bill was a small piece of legislature which sounded good and would merely help the US clean up its rivers.
It was stopped from a vote less than a couple of hours before the Senate would have ratified it--unfortunately, Clinton has gone on since to mandate all this via Executive Orders then ignored for the 30 days and swept up into the Federal Register and become the law of the land.
So you need a major "mainstream" press the Washington Post affords.
Thanks again. Remember there are up to 100,000 lurkers a day who do not post. And awareness can build obviously. If you cannot find Pruden's e-mail address, I have it here somewhere and will find it. I would shoot a hardcopy to him via snail mail, notify him by e-mail it's on its way. He did publish a photo-op and one extensive article when Clinton-Gore gave away 13 American Rivers. Imagine they wanted it in the press. But it was worded like the bill they put into Congress and tried to pass it. Kay Bailey Hutchinson read Dr. Coffman's comments on what it was really all about in the well of the Senate only an hour before the vote and it changed its mind and voted it down.
In 1996, Clinton gave these environmentalists organizations "diplomatic immunity (1/31/96) so they can do just about anything they want in the way of intimidation without even a reprimand by the mayor of your city.
Incredible.
Doesn't Surprise me a bit that RR closed em down, and it REALLY doesn't surprise me that the Socialist Master Klintoon resurrected em! UNESCO is evil and must be put to rest NOW!
Here is the link to the site you asked for!
EPI.FREEDOM.ORG
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I live in Colorado. I KNOW that the infringement here is great. Until my husband died, March 98, he and I were trucking coast to coast. When we got a chance to lay over for a day or two, wherever we were, we would try to play tourist in that area. More than once, we encountered signs in National Parks, itemizing the NO's (No Fishing, NO fires NO off road vehicles etc etc) and the signs would have the UN crest or whatever it is on them. My husband said at the time that it was strange to him that 100 other nations should have any input as to the use of AMERICAN lands by AMERICANS! I posted a vanity when we were home about this, about Feb98. Not ONE hit!
Had I known the scope of what we were seeing, I would have been more persistent! I regret that I was caught up in the trucking job, and not very diligent about my activism at that time. NOW they won't slip one by me! hehehe
Thanks to both of you for continuing to force people to see this issue. It is just as Alan (MY candidate) Keyes said...There are really only two issues: Will the candidate get us out of the UN and the UN out of our country, and Will he fight to restore us to the letter of the constitution! There really ARE no other criteria!
Will either of you be in DC on the 24th? I would love to meet you both!
martian622: The irony is that Prince Philip and even Prince Charles are pushers of this madman's scheme. Yet for all their "beliefs" in public, Philip's engineering slaughtered over a half-million elephants in Africa. Called it the work of poachers and killed his own bands of elephant hunters.
Look what the weasel-wimp Babbitt did with a dozen wolves. Same thing on a minute scale. Bringing the "wolf population" back to its rightful habitat. Like the millions of displaced persons throughout the world.
They have succeeded in stopping cold the natural Panda population in China - while even using the Panda's face on his Evian sprin water and other projects.
So, investigating this travesty goes in circles which it is intended to do.
The most startling item on this UN and US Man Biosphere and other Programs spun from it, is that on the premise of saving "species" there is not one mention of people throughtout the treaties. They do say "human-inhabited islands surrounded by natural areas." as you suggested, but actually there is not much room for humans in the overall blueprints.
As you discover, the object is merely utter control of the planet, people are called "useless eaters" and to hell with them. There are already to many examples of their treachery on behalf of one "humanitarian" cause or another, soon they all glob into one idea and it is horrifying and has absolutely nothing to do with humane ideas for people or animals or the bugs and weeds they are supposed to be saving. A Hoax, of course. Corridor use and faunal movement, do not, in fact, provide clear evidence of saving anything except their warped and very sick motives.
Like Global Warming, the only ultimate goal, like doing away with the combustion engine throughout the world, is merely a power play.
They are insane. They must be stopped.
Thank you for your post and contribution by information.
Bob Smith pledged to get us out of the UN as soon as he got into office. That seems to me like a pretty good reason to vote for him.
House Resolution 1146, which requires the immediate withdraw of the United States from the United Nations....call your Rep. Demand for Co-Sponsorship.
House Resolution 1146, which requires the immediate withdraw of the United States from the United Nations....call your Rep. Demand for Co-Sponsorship.
Please investigate this. If we are to stop it, we have to find all the information readily available! Please.
Thank you for the information. I had heard coversations on the subject but was not familiar with the details as provided on this thread.
All it takes to stop all this is an election to throw the Marxists out. Many, like me, are unaware of the extent to which they have gone to convert this country to another form of government. This is truly NWO stuff!
I suspect those who try to tie Geoge Bush, and by extension, GWB, to this NWO are in fact trying to perpetuate it by dividing those who would throw them out, thereby, leaving the Marxists in place. Add to it the massive number of illegals being given welfare and registered to vote and you see how pervasive the problem is and how hard we must work to overthrow it.
Thanks again for the info.
***They are insane. They must be stopped.***
Once people know the plan and madmen implementing it, any large discourse on the subject can pretty much be summed up with, "What you just said!".
THEY MUST BE
Your big link keeps giving me "document not found".
The most complete report I have found on the Global Goals of the Clinton Administration is by Phyllis Shlafly and is aptly named as such:
Global Goals of the Clinton Administration
It covers:
Global Goals of the Clinton Administration
Treaties to Regulate Human Behavior
Treaties to Regulate Our Economic Life
Treaties to Regulate Energy and Property
UN Conferences Promote Feminist Agenda
UN Conferences on Energy and Property
U.S. Armed Services under Global Control
Was I wrong? Was it you, or someone else that said that they did not care about Americas children? What is your interest in the UN? Just asking?
Thanks. Good one and bookmarked.
And so it does. Sorry, I wiped out the http:// prior to posting.
Turned their backs? The Bush Boys?
Averted their eyes from the obvious, perhaps, knowing that their part in the Big Picture lies elsewhere.
I hope to G-d you're right! If W is keeping a low profile to avoid controversial subjects the media would crucify him on so he can stay "electable", I understand. If not.....we won't have the option of a creek to be paddleless in.
A bump for Saving Our Sovereignty
SOROS????????Blue Jets
SOROS?????BLUE JET
The parks are indeed slipping under UN control. In Canada it was even more blatant. I don't speak to it directly here, but I do have some nasty things in my addendum at the end of my trip report regarding Canada's slip into socialism. It seems appropiate to link here in this thread...
For those interested in my little escapade in the mountains, here is my trip report with photos:
Marathon's Summer (???) Vacation Adventure
Here is a great link page with links to webpages covering all topics discussed Click Here
Here are three links from the website epifreedom.org. Thanks for providing it to me.
Sovereignty International Incorporated -- A educational organization that provides an information link between many conservative organizations attempting to educate the American People on the dangers of the international agenda. Click Here
Liberty Matters -- A Website on Current Issues, Strategies and Public Policy of Constitutional consequence. Click Here
People for the USA -- An organization that helps to keep you informed of ongoing issues and enables citizens to act more effectively. Click Here
martian622: "What do you do with an armed citizenry?" What if they were militant African Bushmen armed with machetes? There were over 200 million of them.
And, basically while you had thousands of servants and rich bankers and industrialists and merchants at your command --but actually (and incredibly) you were only a group of about 300?"
Gotta get the machetes, but then what. How could you collect the machetes and keep them from marching all over you like hordes of locusts destroying everything in their path. Even if you got the long curved thick knives. WHAT WOULD YOU DO THEN?
Enact "laws" to mainly control them "later" --but only later. Everyone in the room is raising their hands.
But I am asking you.
Trailer Trash: "Maybe it is finally sinking in" NO. We must continue to post this same information at least once a month.
Here's how it works. After this post is dissolved, it will take someone in Idaho, Montana, Ohio or Michigan to let out a cry for help. I usually get them by e-mail passed on several times. We must post those and remind everyone all over again.
Not until someone is affected directly, personally, does it become the emergency it actually is now. One by one, if necessary. Dave Fiedor did Kentucky and the stories were heartbreaking. 150 year old Farms being trucked down the highway actually watched by people who owned them, watching from an eagle's view.
I am afraid I might leave one out or I would try to remember here all those who have started it up again.
Thank God, we are all interconnected by this amazing internet and by the grace of JimRob.
But it is the nature of the U.S. now, to be scattered around with some new concern every day, sometimes twice. Unrelated like Hillary getting the finger in New York.
All the dozens of other trivia we find little about but intrigue skips on and on nevertheless.
The interconnection we have must be taken more advantage of. Mark your calendar.
They are marching across America. Maybe we should too.
RURIK: There stood Helen Chenoweth in Congress today, fighting for all she was worth to get attention from the lame brains to vote NO on the new billions in financing for this new bill.
Contact her office for an update. We must actually try to let her know we are out here and rooting for her. C-Span will no doubt re-run today's session --
A lot of her writings and attention she has given this monstrousity is with Dr. Coffman - Trailer Trash just posted the link
www.epi.freedom.org
She has joined hands with him as many others who are actually fighting for us out here.
On the other hand, the Congressman from Monterey Bay actually presided over the take over of that area.
Those people were great; they ran them off but it was only because they had a "leader" a patriot, who drove them to drive them off. Russian boats bombing the harbour. It was horrendous.
U.S. Army doing live ammo exercises invaded the Bay.
But they won! At least temporarily.
Two steps forward, one step back - just one of their mottos in case you have not noticed.
We must make our "internet interconnection" more meaningful -
I wholeheartedly agree. Now is no time for complacency.
My e-mail is valid. Keep me posted if you find anything new.
TT
In re: Post#51
If it were me(the cold-blooded side), I would use the means of dividing, isolating and demonizing respective groups and let them kill each other off. This would also help to facilitate famine and disease(which we can help along with no-one the wiser) while keeping an informational blackout with the help of media. Once population reduction has reached acceptable levels, undesirables can be "weeded-out" and only the compliant will eat. Population control can then be made a reality.
IMHO, this universal formula can be used against any nation after throwing that nation into economic and cultural chaos. Those who think our nation is untouchable should think twice. Outside intervention by elitist forces can then bring any desired agenda into reality.
In this country, disarming the populace is paramount. Relocation may serve to separate people from their property(weapons) and accomplish many agenda items. I think the patterns are being set-up for these very agendas. Time will tell how y2k is used for authoritative controls.
Mzs12Gauge: But WE ARE THE PRESS! No one ever seems to realize that we are syndicating to 100,000 a day here. Larger in circulation and more diverse than any of the spin magazines around.
While we are comfortable with the idea that we are talking to each other, and we must keep that interconnection alive, actually my e-mails and yours, I am sure, come from all over the world from people who prefer to lurk and make commentaries to the ideas from the poster.
The point is, JimRob has set up for us the most dynamic form of contact the world has ever known.
Another item--we can't talk back to Maureen Dowd without using snail mail and so we rarely take the trouble.
But this news and commentary called freerepublic IS the press and one of the finest on earth.
So, what you want some dumb mainstream reporter to mouth for you is beyond me. What is it you want him to tell you that you don't already know.
WE ARE THE POWER!
Don't be shy. Step right up to the mike and the front page! You're on!
martian622: I have, rightly or wrongly, fashioned it as a bullseye. We are in the center and surrounded by millions of acres of specified bugs, weeds and buzzards in their own habitats, then a circle of hyennas, another circling that of grizzlies and another wolves --in circle upon cirle only connection between the islands which is of course, inescapale for humans --are the corridors. No roads. between the intertwining circles but corridors connecting to each other miles wide (like they are now doing to our major highway running through Texas I-35 where trains, semis several cars long hauling people, food and drugs to various other islands and warehouses for allotment.)
The many maps, articles, explanations, the 500 international and national environmental groups whom Clinton has given immunity to --and Dr. Coffman's actions even to stop the Senate from ratification.
He debunks Global Warming, what a lousy idea corridors, buffer zones and Biospheres are and what the whole blueprint and the people involved are--and the few loyal and staunch Americans fighting it.
The idea here is to prepare yourselves and your communities so you will know how to fight it. You can only do that by understanding what the hell it is.
Coffman found, while engaging the Senate, none of them had the vaguest idea what they were enacting.
Within the deadline of one hour before they signed it, he got Kay Bailey Hutchinson to make a speech telling them on the floor of the Senate, exactly what UN and US Man and Biosphere Programs and Treaties (with its own Constitution) is.
Last time I was there, 2000 property owners, mine owners, commercial business owners and private property owners in Florida were fighting Jeb Bush from taking ALL PROPERTY abutting the Everglades.
They plan to destroy all the damns, flood Florida from the Everglades all the way and including Miami.
Don't like Miami? Better look at the maps for your own State and area.
Best to prepare! Dr. Coffman has already spoken in at least 5 cities in Texas and is available for plane fare to come to your community too. It is our responsibility to pass the word at church, schools, neighborhoods and Kuwanis, even the Country Club, tack it up in markets and Town Squares and at Republican Campaign headquarters or whatever.
Actually we really must do this one.
There are many, many people out there who will help you and your town, city, county, state, block.
There are great and concerned Americans out there. Join them.
I recall seeing some sign once that said words to the effect of welcome to the great smoky mountains global transpark zone. It was gone the next time we came through.
I too have looked at the corridor maps and come to some conclusions.
One is that they put a lock on the most easily defensible regions of our nation. Do they come under UN jurisdiction in some far off scenario? If so, the corridors would provide a wonderful logistical advantage to the controlling forces, with a legal (i do use the term loosely) pretext for them to patrol them.
Of course, most of the people in these areas are not the sheep that some might wish them to be, in my particular community the unarmed person is probably rare or an import. And the example of a certain "most wanted" missing person in western NC shows both the possibility of what can be done in these wild regions and why certain people want them off limits.
I am very concerned about the level of jusridiction granted by these 'treaties'. Our local river is being hotly debated for heritage river status, but no one seems to be opposing it with these sorts of questions. Just the standard 'environmental' vs 'conservative' arguments, which do not delve into the real issue at hand.
Anyone in such an area should definitely be aware of the need to use (as you put it) 'the most forceful' means of protest available.
Is anyone out there Cherokee? I picked up a hitchhiker once who was very distressed over this, saying that his people would not stand for another trail of tears(forceful resettlement) I would be curious to know more about what he meant and where he got his information.
So, what you want some dumb mainstream reporter to mouth for you is beyond me. What is it you want him to tell you that you don't already know.
WE ARE THE POWER!
Don't be shy. Step right up to the mike and the front page! You're on!
56 Posted on 07/15/1999 20:56:54 PDT by Bluegoose
I agree, but, unfortunately, there are more of us who are without internet than there are with internet. THOSE sheeple come home from work, sit down in front of the TV, listen to the news, maybe watch a couple of favorite TV sit coms or maybe even a 20-20 or a Hard Ball, and go to bed. They MAY wake up and read the paper over breakfast, and that is the extent of the news. AND they are likely to take up whatever SEEMS to be the "popular" opinion of an issue. Scary thought when you realize the absolute CRAP the mainstream media are belching. The media needs to be held to the fire when they are spinning and fabricating lies. We need to expose them, just as we expose the propaganda artists here on Freep. I send letters to the editor of my papers with quotes from editorials, TV news, etc, along with the documentation that proves them to be WRONG, or worse, liars! You would be amazed at the calls I get, and the letters from others who say they had no idea that the news media, TV in particular, could be so one sided, and so totally without scruples about what they report and the spin they add to it. I hope to be getting the attention of enough people that maybe the word will spread and the sheeple will begin to BUY COMPUTERS! This computer is the ONLY way I know the True story! FReep is the only way I could stay as informed and current. LOL Maybe Bill Gates should hire me? I am selling puters, I hope, to the sheeple! hahaha
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RURIK: Take a look at *Globalizing Grizzlies" just posted.
What has Rush "Cutting Edge" Limbaugh had to say about the UN and the parks?