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TALBOTT: NEXT CENTURY, AMERICA WILL NOT EXIST IN CURRENT FORM

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Source: Drudge Report
Published: SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 1998 19:02:55 ET
Posted on 09/26/1999 17:27:55 PDT by alissa

ALL STATES WILL RECOGNIZE A SINGLE, GLOBAL AUTHORITY' Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott believes the United States may not exist in its current form in the 21st Century -- because nationhood throughout the world will become obsolete! Talbott, who is profiled in the NEW YORK TIMES on Monday [for the second time in six months], has defined, shaped and executed the Clinton administration's foreign policy. He has served at the State Department since the first day of the Clinton presidency. Just before joining the administration, Talbott wrote in TIME magazine -- in an essay titled "The Birth of the Global Nation" -- that he is looking forward to government run by "one global authority." "Here is one optimist's reason for believing unity will prevail ... within the next hundred years ... nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority," Talbott declared in the July 20, 1992 issue of TIME. "A phrase briefly fashionable in the mid-20th century -- 'citizen of the world' -- will have assumed real meaning by the end of the 21st." Talbott continued: "All countries are basically social arrangements, accommodations to changing circumstances. No matter how permanent and even sacred they may seem at any one time, in fact they are all artificial and temporary." Talbott's belief that the United States of America and other nations are "artificial and temporary" continues to cause a riff inside of the State Department, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. "I think we are losing sight that we work for the American taxpayer, not Russia, not Asia," one State Department veteran told the DRUDGE REPORT in Washington. "Mr. Talbott is completely consumed with world order and has alienated many career employees here. [His] attitude borders on obsession." In recent months, Talbott has come under fire for his stand on Russia. The policy of financial and political engagement with Russia as revelations pour forth of massive money-laundering schemes has made Talbott the target of critics, reports John Broder at the TIMES. "We have to be calm and steady and have a clear sense of purpose," Talbott tells Monday's NEW YORK TIMES. "One of my modest suggestions to the world is strategic patience. We have to be calm and steady and have a clear sense of purpose when that dynamic is discouraging, as it is today,'' Talbott tells the TIMES. Global government has proved to be slightly more complicated than one optimist dreamed it would be.


1 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:27:55 PDT by alissa
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To: alissa

Quick, where is Buchanan?

2 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:31:14 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: alissa

I can't wait to find Talbott's fingerprints on the Russian Mob Scandal.

And, tho' it ain't happened yet...

3 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:33:09 PDT by boyd
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To: alissa

We will be "Better Dead than RED".

4 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:34:52 PDT by chainsaw
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To: alissa

So the jerk actually admits it. Yep, guess I will have to get that tin-foil hat. And since this was in 1992, Bubba was aware of his views. Wonder how Mad Maddie (not-at-Albright) feels on this.

5 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:35:08 PDT by powell
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To: alissa(SAVE AMERICA FROM DESTRUCTION - SUPPORT PAT

Patton's Ghost - "Don't just shovel shit in Louisiana - Support Pat. Pat is right, we should have fought those f #$%&*g commies then, like I wanted to. First our children had to fight them in the Orient, now our grandchildren will have to fight them. I don't need these anti-american media neo-con NWO SOBs, who have always supported some other foreign country, telling me who and when to fight. I'm for defending America. I'm for Pat"

6 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:36:36 PDT by ex-snook
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To: alissa

Hmmm... Buchanan's alleged anti-Semitism vs. Talbott's demonstrated and clearly expressed anti-Americanism.

Guess which of the 2 will be the most criticized?

Anyone betting on Talbott?

I didn't think so.

I wonder what this is telling us?

7 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:37:17 PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: alissa

The same families that opposed the adoption of our Constitution and our becoming a nation independent of England have controled the State Dept. ever since and have worked at cross purposes of this Republic and Talbot is part of that.

If you ever shake your head in wonderment at what the State Dept. does and says, consider that they don't want us to be an independent nation and never have and what they do and say will make sense, not good sense as far as this country is concerned but will explain what they are doing and saying.

8 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:37:25 PDT by dalereed (dalereed@ixpres.com)
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To: alissa

And people wonder why our foreign policy is in the shape it's end. This socialist should be run out of town on a rail (right behind you know who.)

9 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:38:14 PDT by Howlin (lweaton@hotmail.com)
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To: alissa

"I think we are losing sight that we work for the American taxpayer, not Russia, not Asia," one State Department veteran told the DRUDGE REPORT in Washington. "Mr. Talbott is completely consumed with world order and has alienated many career employees here. [His] attitude borders on obsession."

Well said - anonymous veteran! I can see why you are anonymous... you are treading thin ice criticizing the Mob!

Now if we could just get the people in this Administration to work in our interests - or quit taking our money while undermining us at the same time.

10 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:40:11 PDT by Gritty
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To: alissa

Today we had an article by James Pinkerton "No One Escapes the New World Order" wherein A+Bert got into an honest difference of opinion in reading that author. All this illustrates how imperative it is for Buchanan to have the debate with whatever "Xerox copy" candidate is left standing. Good to see Talbott is adding fuel to the fire.

I expect the shallowness of thinking behind these ideas will quickly cause these naive wish-list notions to fall flat on their faces. The trouble is there might be more war before anyone realizes the importance of sovereignty.

11 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:40:27 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: powell

And since this was in 1992, Bubba was aware of his views.

I've been aware of Talbott's commie worship for even longer than that.

The guy is simply a suckup to whoever is the nastiest dictator at the time. Right now, he's happy to be Klinton's buttboy. He's always had his kneepads ready, but Monica beat him to it.

12 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:42:47 PDT by 300winmag
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To: alissa

He and Holbrooke are running things for the NWO. Like it or not. The GOP let Holbrooke the architect of the War on serbia become our Ambassador to the UN just recently. That with Deal maker Richarson what more do you need.

13 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:43:03 PDT by A+Bert
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To: alissa

Just wait 'til that global income tax goes into effect; even our "poorest" citizens are wealthy by the standards of much of the world.
Maybe when the gubmint starts confiscating their earnings too to give to a bunch of third world countries they will understand what the 60% of us who pay taxes now are griping about.

14 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:44:13 PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: alissa

Another NWO silk sock nitwit Clinton appointee, who has about as much credibility as the rest of them. Who was it that said a look at the Clinton cabinet reminded him of the bar scene out of Star Wars? Every single one of these NWO traitors should be driven out of the government, along with their treasonous traitor-in-chief, our so called president (always in lower case for the pantload in the White House). All three branches of the federal government need a thorough house cleaning. Way past due...

15 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:44:31 PDT by Czar (FedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: A+Bert

I heard on the radio this week that some Democrats are pushing Gore to go ahead and name Richardson as his vice presidential pick to get a jump on Bradley. What do you think of that?

16 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:45:57 PDT by Howlin (lweaton@hotmail.com)
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To: flamefront

That guy stallbutt...looks like a space alien, sorry do not mean to offend any visiting aliens but gosh! WHAT A BIG POMPOUS ASS HE IS. WE AMERICANS PAY THIS PIECE OF DIRT'S SALARY AND WE AIN'T GITTIN OUR MONIES WORTH. There should be a fund set up to send that boy to camp...A WORK CAMP, YOU KNOW WITH CHAINS AND STRIPED CLOTHES.HE IS A THIEF OF our tax dollars. HE is paid by ALL OF US AND HE WANTS TO SELL OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR RIGHTS, EARNED FOR US BY OUR PATRIOTS, DOWN THE RIVER.NO!!! I do not like him, you can tell, right? FIRE HIM FOLKS, PREFERABLY OUT A CANNON BARREL!

17 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:45:57 PDT by crazykatz
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To: dalereed

bttt

18 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:45:58 PDT by ServesURight
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To: alissa

There is a very simple way to shut down Mr. Talbott. Just vote this sorry assed Democrat administration out. Out of the White House, out of the House and out of the Senate. Get rid of this cancer!

And if any sorry assed Republican spouts the same kind of garbage - throw him out as well.

19 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:46:50 PDT by jackbill
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To: alissa

And so the debate over the Next World Order gains momentum. The New York Times editorialized in favor of Annan: "It is often in the American interest to be one participant among many in a well-designed UN peacekeeping force rather than face constant pressure to lead an intervention or go in alone." Yet the United States is not about to surrender its sovereignty to the UN; Clinton can't even persuade the Republican Congress to pay America's full UN dues.
But the New Order of world opinion and world mobilization is on the horizon. And when it arrives, it will, like the orders before it, hit with the force of an idea whose time has come.

This was on another thread today "You can't escape from the NWO"

20 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:48:02 PDT by A+Bert
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To: powell

Hey, give the little limp-wrist a break! Ever since the USSR went into the ash heap, O'Tal has been a little bit lost. Kind figured someday he'd be up with the victors, watching the T-72's roll through Red Square. Now he is just working for a sticky fingered liar.

21 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:51:25 PDT by Leisler (demislave@clankchains)
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To: alissa

Buchanan is the only guy to take these globalists on..

22 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:51:44 PDT by Jethro Tull
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To: Gritty

It's the real "Blair Warlock" in action. Bad Tony Blair's determination to emplace the socialist's "Third Way" in Europe is making progress with little opposition. Strobe Talbott and a few other 1960's Rhodes Scholars, including the First Felon, are doing all they can to make the New World Order a reality before Klintoon is out of office.

Now if they can only disarm the populace, they might just succeed. A recent article in "The Nation" posits how the Second Amendment can be overcome. They are trying hard folks. They even cite opposition to the 2nd by such stalwarts as Clarence Thomas and Renquist. Can this be true?

23 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:51:53 PDT by Paul Wilson
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To: jackbill

Don't forget it was president George Bush who reintroduced the Hitlerian phrase "New World Order". I think republicans have already shown their colors as a

"Xerox copy"

24 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:53:10 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: ServesURight

Bush still rolls his eyes when he hears the name Strobe Talbott -- an academic and student leader in his 1968 Yale class and now deputy secretary of state.

Hey, Packer fan! Just thought you'd like a quote from another article regarding George W.'s reaction to the name "Strobe Talbot". Hmmmm...maybe GW is not so NWO after all. Ok, I'm now ready for you to find a way to say GW loves Strobe...anyway, how was that for a football game???? My heart was in my throat and the rolaids were flowing!

25 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:55:57 PDT by Wait4Truth (Wait4Truth@aol.com)
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To: ServesURight

Bush still rolls his eyes when he hears the name Strobe Talbott -- an academic and student leader in his 1968 Yale class and now deputy secretary of state.

Hey, Packer fan! Just thought you'd like a quote from another article regarding George W.'s reaction to the name "Strobe Talbot". Hmmmm...maybe GW is not so NWO after all. Ok, I'm now ready for you to find a way to say GW loves Strobe...anyway, how was that for a football game???? My heart was in my throat and the rolaids were flowing!

26 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:56:34 PDT by Wait4Truth (Wait4Truth@aol.com)
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To: alissa

Well, it's good to know what *HIS* plans are, anyway. Lots of blood between now and then!

27 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:57:20 PDT by The Duke
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To: A+Bert

Again? I thought we covered that. You were surprised that Pinkerton was a Bush policy guy. Kinda like Pinkerton is the Bush equivalent or "Xerox copy" of Talbott. Remember here.

28 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:57:54 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: alissa

Today's Washington Post mentioned that George W. rolled his eyes whenever anyone mentioned Talbott's name.

This wierdo was Clinton's roommate at Oxford. Glad to hear Drudge make the point that many in the State Dept. are disgusted with his leadership. I believe over the next 13 months we will hear more and more about disaffected employees of the State Dept, DOJ, Etc. who are disgusted by all liberal leadership.

29 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:58:28 PDT by what's up
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To: alissa

We now have a legitimate reason to call the Clinton regime a Marxist government.

30 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:59:22 PDT by BobS
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To: alissa

America's freedoms are not in the cards for the one-world government crowd.

That means that - if the socialist one worlders are successful - that the ordinary people will turn into Soviet style citizens who do little and produce less because nothing belongs to them, everything belongs to the state.

Thanks to the American right to own property, with state protection of that right and of that property, as guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, America is a capitalistic nation. And capitalism is the system that produces great wealth for all because the ordinary people are allowed to keep a large part of what they earn, and add it to their accumulated wealth.

Under capitalism, everyone has the opportunity to become wealthy. Under socialism, no one has the right to keep anything.

31 Posted on 09/26/1999 17:59:25 PDT by thinktwice
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To: flamefront

"Don't forget it was president George Bush who reintroduced the Hitlerian phrase "New World Order". I think republicans have already shown their colors as a

"Xerox copy""

What's your alternative? Buchanan?

I am probably more frustrated than you but I am willing to give the Republicans one more chance. If they win the Presidency, the House and the Senate and don't change things drastically, I will answer virtually anyone's call to arms. But I don't plan to stand in the way of giving them the first opportunity in decades to control all of government.

32 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:00:16 PDT by jackbill
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To: alissa

"one global authority."

Over my dead body.  It won't happen for another 500 years....if then.  I refuse to capitulate to the socialist on this globe to conform to some "New World Government" while we have those who refuse to work, expect the government to support them, and leave the rest of us to shore up their sorry a$$es.

33 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:01:35 PDT by Dark Watch (DarkWatch@rallye-pointe.com)
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To: alissa

what is needed is a conservative candidate that can treat all citizens of the u.s. equally, one who appeals to underpaid immigrants as well as natives. then the confrontation w the new world order-advocates would not be subject to media attacks, such as those on buchanan. buchanan is not a credible candidate because he speaks w the same voice as george wallace. i feel like taking a shower after buchanan speaks. he's an embarassment to the pubbies + an asset to the crats.

34 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:01:55 PDT by ken21
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To: alissa

what is needed is a conservative candidate that can treat all citizens of the u.s. equally, one who appeals to underpaid immigrants as well as natives. then the confrontation w the new world order-advocates would not be subject to media attacks, such as those on buchanan. buchanan is not a credible candidate because he speaks w the same voice as george wallace. i feel like taking a shower after buchanan speaks. he's an embarassment to the pubbies + an asset to the crats.

35 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:02:09 PDT by ken21
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To: flamefront

Someday I wish you would show me how to do that "here" thing. When things are a lttle slow and I'm more alert. OK.

36 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:02:43 PDT by A+Bert
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To: boyd

Talbott is such a commie bastard, one thing he is forgetting is that "he may not exist in his current form if this country goes down"...I guess my question to him would be "how long can you hide in your bunker. you rat bastard traitor"

37 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:03:19 PDT by Thorn11cav
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To: alissa

Truly someone needs to see a doctor quick. Is this the ravings of a serious and responsible servant of the People? The Ego is growing out of his head. What has Talbot and his global madhatters been promised for achieving this goal? If promised, who is doing the honors?

BTW, if the people from other parts of this planet want to live under our great and successful Constitution, the American Rule of Law, our Bill of Rights, etc., maybe, but I don't think that is what Talbot has in mind.

38 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:04:23 PDT by harpo11 (Laugh,_Irritate,_Deregulate,_Annoy_the_Intolerant_Left._Yes)
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To: Howlin

You heard that Gore might name Richardson as VP on Rush, probably. That's where I heard it. Laughable. Richardson makes Gore looks like he needs a dose of Ritalin. Love to hear the press ask Richardson why he offered a job at the UN to Monica Lewinsky, when the employee who held that job previously was terminated with the explanation that there was no longer funding for that position. Also like to hear Richardson explain what he thought of Monica's skills and experience for that proposed job and actually, why did such a high level person as himself take such a personal interest in finding employment for a lowly WH intern turned clerk.

39 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:04:50 PDT by randita
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To: jackbill

OK. Then let us just see what GWBush has to say immediately to address this major news fact. If he stands quiet and continues to defend open borders with Mexico then are opening yourself to being duped by republicans.

40 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:05:59 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: Paul Wilson

A recent article in "The Nation" posits how the Second Amendment can be overcome. They are trying hard folks.

We have met the enemy, and it is THEM! This is their final wedge before Show-Time!

I didn't know Tallbutt was so religious. He obviously is predicting the Anti-Christ, perhaps as early as next year. That's the only one that can succeed with this one-world government crap. Well, he ought to have a good feel for it. He has been working on that side a long, long time.

41 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:06:37 PDT by Gritty
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To: flamefront

America first ....... or.....America under U.N. globalist control...not a difficult choice.

42 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:07:00 PDT by usvotz (`35%of Americans will vote to End the global/communist agenda)
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To: jackbill and other Republican globalism apologists.

For those of you who think Dubya disagrees with this general policy, you might become a bit more informed regarding his foreign policy ideas by reading this.

43 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:14:58 PDT by arcane
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To: alissa

"Talbott's belief that the United States of America and other nations are "artificial and temporary" continues to cause a riff inside of the State Department, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. "I think we are losing sight that we work for the American taxpayer, not Russia, not Asia," one State Department veteran told the DRUDGE REPORT"

It's time for partition, now. I am an American and a Southerner - unless I exercise my right to immigrate to Israel, in which case I am an Israeli. In no case am I a citizen of what Halfbright enthusiastically termed an "international system."

Southern Party

44 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:16:27 PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: alissa

Here is an oldie but goody from the days of Larry Flynt:

A VAST LEFT-WING CONSPIRACY? (excerpts only re the topic)
By SAM DEALEY


Were White House aides involved? they asked Flynt. ''The only connection that I have got with Bill Clinton is that I voted for him twice. I've never met the man. I've never been to the White House.'' Presidential pit-bull James Carville? ''Well of course I am friends with James, we made a movie together ... But I've never discussed what I am doing with James.'' How about Clinton dirt-digger Terry Lenzner? ''No.''

But asked if he knew Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, Flynt said, ''I haven't seen Strobe Talbott in years. ... But he is married to a sister of a very good friend of mine.''

Surprisingly, that red flag went unnoticed.

So who is Talbott's brother-in-law? His name is Cody Shearer, and a review of his White House connections reveals the possible workings of a new plumber operation. A self-styled ''free-lance journalist'' (although he hasn't published in nearly a decade), Shearer is a former business associate of Terry Lenzner's Investigative Group International (IGI)- the premier opposition-research firm that Dick Morris calls ''the White House secret police.''

Lenzner's connections with Clinton go to the seamier side of politics. The Clinton campaign hired his firm in 1992 to do ''opposition research,'' a euphemism for dirt-digging. Since '94, the president's personal lawyers have had Lenzner on the payroll, reportedly searching under the beds and sniffing through the panties-drawers of Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky and members of Hillary's ''Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy,'' including Starr's team.

Lenzner and Shearer are also old tennis buddies from Washington's tony St. Albans Tennis Club. Shearer's a close friend of Sidney Blumenthal's, too, according to published accounts.

Could Shearer be passing Flynt the goods on GOP members? Neither Shearer nor Flynt returned calls seeking comment. But if this was the case, it wouldn't be the first time Shearer smeared a Clinton critic.

In 1997, Cody Shearer tried to broker a deal between Lenzner and the Cheyenne-Arapaho tribes to investigate the Senate's Deputy Whip, Don Nickles (R-Okla.), who was a member of the committee probing an alleged shakedown of Indian tribes by the Clinton-Gore campaign in 1996. (Lenzner demanded $17,000 for the job, but tribal leaders ultimately decided not to hire him.)

Shearer has tried to ingratiate himself with this White House before. Last summer, the State Department learned he was doing some free-lance negotiatingwith Serb and Muslim leaders on partitioning Bosnia - all while claiming he had the backing of the Clinton administration. Talbott himself had to write his brother-in-law to tell him to knock it off.

The Shearer connections with the White House don't end there. Cody's twin sister Brooke - Strobe Talbott's wife - has been a friend of Hillary's since their college days. Brooke used to work for Terry Lenzner as an investigator, where her specialty was dumpster-diving, the fine art of sifting through the trash, and she reportedly remains in close contact with her old boss.

Brooke joined the Clinton's 1992 campaign as an aide to Hillary. ''Sometimes at the end of the day, when Bill telephoned,'' she reminisced of the campaign, ''we'd be laughing so loud, doing imitations and carrying on, that he'd say, 'You guys sound like you're having a lot more fun than I am.''' After the campaign, she headed up Hillary's White House fellows program, and later moved on to become a senior advisor to the Interior Department. The Shearer family has yet another relative close to the president: Cody and Brooke's brother, Derek, an old Oxford chum of Bill's. They've kept up over the years: Derek Shearer played an instrumental role in the 1992 campaign. After serving on the transition team, he took a job at the Commerce Department, and was later awarded the ambassadorship to Finland. ''I want to be known as the ambassador who brought Ben and Jerry's to Finland,'' he said.

And then there's Strobe Talbott himself. He also roomed at Oxford with Bill Clinton while they were both Rhodes Scholars, and went on to Yale Grad School when both Clintons were at Yale Law. Prior to joining the Clinton administration, Talbott was a Time columnist who carried a lot of water for his old pal's 1992 presidential campaign.

Days after the Lewinsky story broke, ex-Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos first warned of a possible scorched-earth defense: ''The president said he would never resign, and I think some around him are willing to take everybody down with him.''

Could this be the makings of a not-so-vast left-wing conspiracy, or is it all Shearer coincidence?

--- Sam Dealey is assistant managing editor of The American Spectator.


OK, is this not an inbred, corrupt little group?????????

45 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:17:06 PDT by ftrader
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To: A+Bert

(the here thing, you're joking right?)

46 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:17:24 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: flamefront

The anti-American sentiment at State Department is overwhelming!!!!!

47 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:21:12 PDT by usvotz (`35%of Americans will vote to End the global/communist agenda)
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To: Paul Wilson

A recent article in "The Nation" posits how the Second Amendment can be overcome. They are trying hard folks. They even cite opposition to the 2nd by such stalwarts as Clarence Thomas and Renquist.

Sure would like a link to this article. I searched their web site and couldn't come up with it. While their interpretations are different from mine, the Nation editorialists are generally pretty careful about a frontal assault on the constitution.

48 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:24:11 PDT by arcane
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To: flamefront

No, I am really Computer illiterate. I learn a few things at a time. A guy by the name of Mensius posted that html stuff I use. Hey, no one is to old to learn, kid

49 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:24:13 PDT by A+Bert
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator

On the accusations of anti-semitism being cast towards Buchanan, this sounds like the same game that was played by the media in the 50's.....remember McCarthy?

To the real Freepers, let's stand behind Buchanan.

We need someone with a BACKBONE that will clean up this mess...

GO PAT GO...

50 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:26:57 PDT by WethePeople...
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To: A+Bert

(Just do this for your own educational amusement - go up to the browser menu and find VIEW - PAGE SOURCE. You also can right button click for the same.)

51 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:28:04 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: flamefront

If he stands quiet and continues to defend open borders with Mexico then are opening yourself to being duped by republicans.

A false statement about which you have been corrected many times. The fact that you continue to post it, knowing it is false, pretty well labels you and your intent and it is not Go Pat Go.

52 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:31:30 PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (lc123@swbell.net)
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To: alissa

One of my roommates is a draft resister who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again. He is one of the bravest, best men I know. His country needs men like him more than they know. That he is considered a criminal is an obscenity. -Excerpt from Clinton's infamous letter to Colonel Holmes of UA ROTC Dept.

Talbott?

53 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:32:08 PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: alissa

Years from now when the Freedom Fighters reclaim America after decades of communist control they will look upon Joe McCarthy and the House UnAmerican Activites Committee like the individual who warned the people of Troy about accepting gifts from the Greeks. He was dragged out to sea by a sea monster and the people ignoring him wheeled into the city the Trojan Horse. We have the Trojan Horse within our governemt.

54 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:35:25 PDT by Swiss
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Excuse me. I know not of what you are referring. You can straighten both me and George Putnam out if you can answer what Bush is contemplating with the invasion of illegals. Does he support prop 187 in CA? Is he doing anything like that in Texas? Really I would be glad to find a guy with the backbone to stand up to open borders.

55 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:37:32 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: alissa

Strobe Talbot is a fool whom only the NY Times would profile on A1 (and Clinton would hire), a vain attempt to legitimize an opinion that not even their editorial board would dare present. You see, masquerading opinion as news, these "news" papers slide conviction onto the front page without the fear of offending advertisers. Besides, who reads the NY Times or Washington Post editorials, anyway? - outside of the White House PR division, that is, who crave daily injections of self-importance that their polling results fail to administer.

This is not to say that Stroby is not dangerous - his daily capitulation to the world's more realistic and self-directed powers is only slightly more hazardous than the wailing heard from the prayer mats laid out on the South Lawn in the direction of Kofi Annan's office.

Talbot's musings on world citizenship ought to worry Americans the same as, say HillaryCare: scary as hell and fight it to death. But it ain't gonna happen. These guys are dangerous only when they learn to play ball, like the Boy President, but not when they're true to their allegiances.

56 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:39:21 PDT by nicollo
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To: flamefront

"...You were surprised that Pinkerton was a Bush policy guy. "

He sure wasn't sucessful as an influencial "Bush policy guy", he was put out to pasture by the Bush campaign.

Discovering a `New Paradigm' after Bush's decline
( The Washington Times ) Matthew Scully; 10-30-1995

"What Comes Next" begins with a little vignette in which the author, then an aide to President Bush, was in a long meeting despairing over the administration's lack of vision. "The meeting dragged on nearly to midnight," he writes, "but I never minded working late." His mind started to wander. Suddenly he saw the futility of it all. It was 1989 and big things were happening in the world, "yet nobody in Washington - at least not in the Bush White House - seemed to be absorbing the real import of all this change."

It was about then, recalls James Pinkerton, that he first grasped what he called the "New Paradigm." In 1990, he gave his New Paradigm speech. This led to a quarrel with Dick Darman, and to the media attention on which Mr. Pinkerton has been dining out ever since. Alas, for his visionary warning he was rewarded with a make-work job on the Bush campaign. From there he wistfully "observed the decline and fall of the Bush Empire."

The story has all the elements familiar to us from the recollections of other Bush staffers: Hard-working aide slighted by the lesser minds in his midst; unheeded visionary who could have saved Bush presidency, if only they had listened.

We've heard this story before, only in Mr. Pinkerton's case the image is particularly amusing because, as his book makes clear, he takes himself to be a thinker of truly historical proportions. Here he is recounting the moment he first discovered the hidden truths of the New Paradigm:

"Searching for a tool of understanding, I picked up Thomas Kuhn's 1962 work, 'The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.' ... I had first read the book in high school ... and grasped that Kuhn was onto something important about the way systems of belief and practice change. In 1989, I re-read it. Click."

Just like that, everything came together. The New Paradigm, he explains, is the last of five stages in "belief systems." Other paradigms included ancient Egypt, the Roman Empire, the Catholic Church and 19th-century Germany. Each represents a "paradigm shift" in human development and social organization. Each was seen in advance by one visionary willing to "think anew and act anew."

Following this paradigmatic line of succession - from Ramses, to St. Peter, Bismarck and Mr. Pinkerton - we arrive today at a horrifying "Cyber Future" from which the New Paradigm is our only escape. We must abandon the Old Paradigm. We must be bold, we must transform our world, we must - well, best to let him explain it:

"Our political paradigm today is bureaucracy. . . . Paradigmatic transformation leads to consolidation, to the creation of a new establishment; both are necessary parts to the unending process of progress. ... What is needed ... is a synthesis of new thinking: an upwardly spiraling fusion of radical conservative dialectic. We need the spirit of radicalism to spearhead the New Paradigm, but we need the best of conservatism to provide order and context."

Doubtless this too requires a second reading before one hears the "click." I'm afraid it's too deep for me. That, or else it's just a pretentious way of saying the bureaucracy has seen its day and we need to reduce the size of government.

The book is full of similar banalities delivered as breathtaking feats of vision. For example, "Cybertech has shifted the world's paradigm." Translation: Computers are changing the way we live.

"The middle class, buffeted by the gusts of the planetary economy, wonders whether it will be lifted in an exhilarating globally competitive updraft or windsheared in a demoralizing dollar-falling downdraft ... carried toward a new and terrifying Oz." People are worried about their jobs.

Equally inspired are Mr. Pinkerton's strategic insights. If, for example, Republicans are daring enough to think anew and act anew, then a New Paradigm "Megalliance" with gays and New Agers is within reach. But first we must overcome our "antiabortionism and homophobia." A truly visionary Republican leader would declare himself for gay marriages. And unborn babies, well, they're Old Paradigm. To reach the New Paradigm we need some clear-eyed electoral analysis: Those fundamentalist types are costing Republicans the Sedona vote.

The book is chock-full of similar advice we ignore at our peril. Indeed, it turns our that "all Americans, whether they deem themselves Democrats, Republicans, independents, or anything else, must sooner or later adapt the reality of the New Paradigm." It's all very structural and scientific and dialectical, so, well, we really have no choice in the matter. The only question is whether we will see "the great work" on to its completion and heed this prophet in our midst.

Matthew Scully was a speechwriter for former Vice President Dan Quayle.

***** WHAT COMES NEXT: THE END OF BIG GOVERNMENT AND THE NEW PARADIGM AHEAD

By James P. Pinkerton Hyperion, $21.95, 356 pages

Copyright © 1995 News World Communications, Inc.

Matthew Scully, Discovering a `New Paradigm' after Bush's decline. , The Washington Times, 10-30-1995, pp 26.

Link to some Amazon.com reviews HERE

57 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:41:30 PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: randita

We can dream, can't we? LOL.

But you and I know, the chance that he'll get asked those questions won't stop him if he wants it. I've thought all along he's being moved around for some reason. Maybe VP is the payoff. (And, you're right, I did hear it on Rush.)

58 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:45:11 PDT by Howlin (lweaton@hotmail.com)
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To: alissa

-- that he is looking forward to government run by "one global authority." "Here is one optimist's reason for believing unity will prevail ... within the next hundred years ... nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority,"Talbot said.........

Over my dead body with a smoking gun in my hand!

Of course if it Talbot waits for about 25 or 30 years - he won't have to worry about me.........hopefully there will be others - millions of others.....that will be willing to fight for this nation and against Global Socialism.....Clintons real agenda.

59 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:45:24 PDT by hardstarboard
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To: alissa

'citizen of the world'

Never.

60 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:50:33 PDT by Darth Sidious (the_REAL_phantom_menace_is@thewhitehouse.gov)
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To: crazykatz

FIRE HIM FOLKS, PREFERABLY OUT A CANNON BARREL!

Preferably a barrel with left hand rifleing - so that Stroby will have the right....ahh...the correct spin.

61 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:51:05 PDT by hardstarboard
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To: jackbill

Talbotts sister was found going through an IC (K. Starrs) trash. There is an evil in this administration that has been in the making for years. We need to get rid of Talbott now.

62 Posted on 09/26/1999 18:57:32 PDT by oldironsides
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To: Gritty

Well said - anonymous veteran! I can see why you are anonymous... you are treading thin ice criticizing the Mob!

Yeah, just ask Pat Buchanan.

63 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:03:35 PDT by Lady Hoosier
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To: randita

Love to hear the press ask Richardson why he offered a job at the UN to Monica Lewinsky, when the employee who held that job previously was terminated with the explanation that there was no longer funding for that position

A loverly thought, but why would the press ever ask him such a question? He's one of them, only more so. It'll be the same day you see Janet Reno hammered with tough questions from the mainstream media. What was the old term for a guy like Strobe? COMSYMP? How un-pc, but how very correct.

64 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:13:12 PDT by spincut (gores@goner)
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To: thinktwice

Thanks to the American right to own property, with state protection of that right and of that property, as guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, America is a capitalistic nation.

If you think you own your property, why do you have to pay the gov't a tax for the privilege of USING it?

There ARE ways of gaining allodial title which eliminates the requirement to pay such property taxes, however, few Americans have done so.

65 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:17:30 PDT by jedi
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To: ken21

i feel like taking a shower after buchanan speaks.

Odd and unfounded that you should say that. Just recently, after listening to Pat on the Rush Limbaugh show, I felt as if I had just taken a refreshingly clean shower. His was a clear message to clean up America. No spin, no lies, no false promises, no taking polls before he speaks (probably his worst mistake politically), but boy ain't it nice to know that what you see is what you get. Pat would make a great President, but, God help him, they won't let him in a million years. With phony, felon Clinton you got lies, anti-semitic jokes while committing adultery in the Oval Office, selling out our country, raping women, etc. etc.

Now I need a clean shower.

66 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:22:47 PDT by Lady Hoosier
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To: jedi, thinktwice

If you think you own your property, why do you have to pay the gov't a tax for the privilege of USING it?

That's true, and see how fast they'll take "your property" away from you if you don't pay those taxes.

67 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:23:29 PDT by alissa
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To: Lady Hoosier

And any comments about Dubya?

68 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:28:03 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: alissa

Actually, Talbott's right in a way, but totally off the mark in another way. Not one world government. More like Eurasia, Eastasia...

69 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:32:54 PDT by dr_who
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To: flamefront

The only thing I can say about Bush so far is that he may be only slightly better than Bradley or Gore. GW could surprise conservatives by governing to the right. But he still won't address the vital issues that Pat lays on the table, such as industrial disarmament, the trade imbalance, national security in reference to trade and foreign policy, and immigration issues. The silence is deafening.

70 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:37:01 PDT by Lady Hoosier
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To: Lady Hoosier

It would seem only reasonable that GWBush would, if he had any sense of place in history and concern for the least conservative priciples respond to the Talbott statement above and not stay quiet on this, true?

71 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:48:59 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: Wait4Truth

I don't think that passage from today's Washington Post proves anything other than that George W has a personal dislike for Talbot, which is perfectly understandable. My first impression of Bush when he first became governor was that he was pro-states rights, which would probably make him as hostile to increased UN power as he would be to increasing Federal power, perhaps. I'm not sure what he stands for now.

Linking him with his father's "New World Order" non-starter is kind of silly though. Bush Sr. got a jump in the polls with that idea of making the UN the policeman of the world, but then everything basically fell apart. Somalia was just a mercy mission meant to end Bush Sr's presidency on a high note. It's Clinton that has done the most to advance the idea of making the UN the world police.

72 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:50:14 PDT by dr_who
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To: 300winmag

I've been aware of Talbott's commie worship for even longer than that.

How far back do we want to go? Does the name Whittaker Chambers mean anything to you? Or Alger Hiss? Joe McArthy said the State Dept was full of fellow travelers. But the press crushed him. Nevertheless, they DID GET HISS.

Nixon first came to prominence on this very matter also. They can scandalize Nixon all they want but he was a dedicated American.

73 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:51:30 PDT by powell
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Maybe you thought I was referring to Buchanan when I was referring to GWBush, true?

74 Posted on 09/26/1999 19:53:48 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: Swiss

The Trojan who tried in vain to warn the city of Troy that the Greeks had retreated only temporarily and that the Trojan Horse was an example of their cunning trickery was Laocoon. He and his two sons were dragged into the sea by a large serpent.

Incidentally, the Trojan princess and prophetess of doom and gloom, whose fate it was that her predictions would never be heeded, was Cassandra. Her dire warnings re the Trojan Horse went unheeded.

There are many brave Laocoons and Cassandras posting these days on FreeRepublic.com.

75 Posted on 09/26/1999 20:02:17 PDT by slym
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To: alissa

Strobe Talbot also believed that our basing the Pershing missiles in Europe in the 1980s would cause a nuclear war and the end of life on earth.

At least you can't say that the man doesn't think big thoughts!

76 Posted on 09/26/1999 20:16:00 PDT by luther kirk
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To: flamefront

It would seem only reasonable that GWBush would, if he had any sense of place in history and concern for the least conservative priciples respond to the Talbott statement above and not stay quiet on this, true?

This quote of Talbott's has been out for a long time now, so if GW is just now hearing about it then he is a sadly uniformed citizen and public servant. But yes, one would hope that Dubya would reassure his conservative base by criticizing Talbott strongly.

77 Posted on 09/26/1999 20:22:31 PDT by Lady Hoosier
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To: Lady Hoosier

Wolf: Hey, folks... I have been proclaiming this since I first posted on Free Republic:

BUSH = KLINTOON = NEW WORLD ORDER
DOWN WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER!

Strobe Talbot, Bill Clinton, GWB, Gore, Bradley, Dole, Quayle... these people are all NWO Talbot-like believers. They intend to rend America a "state" in a global government. This is not news. This has been going on for years via steady incrementalism. It started with FDR, then Truman, then Eisenhower, then JFK, then Johnson, and Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Klintoon... The origin of the ideology goes back to the Fabian Socialists in England in the mid-1800s. Occult, even demonic in nature, the objective is to create a global fascist totalitarian police state with the AntiChrist as head. Wake up!

78 Posted on 09/26/1999 20:50:35 PDT by wolfpsy
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To: flamefront

Really I would be glad to find a guy with the backbone to stand up to open borders.

He supports legal immigration but thinks the Federal government should do what ever it takes to stop illegals from entering this country. This administration won't do that because they quickly convert illegals into citizens and Democrat voters. This is not good for Republicans.

Only the federal government has the resources, and the responisbility, to protect our borders.

79 Posted on 09/26/1999 20:52:34 PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (lc123@swbell.net)
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To: alissa. jedi

We do not pay property taxes for the privilege of using our property, we pay taxes for government services provided for that property - services such as schools, police, fire department and library.

Have you never seen a property tax bill?

80 Posted on 09/26/1999 21:24:31 PDT by thinktwice
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To: Dark Watch, hardstarboard, Dark Sidious

"Over my dead body. It won't happen for another 500 years....if then."

To anyone that doubts this will happen in our lifetime - Think Again. It is happening now. You can thank the traitors in both major parties for this. And unconstitutional treaties like NAFTA and GATT are taking us closer and closer to a borderless, one-world government. Here is a quote from a big globalist, David Rockefeller.


"It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years. But the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government which will never again know war but only peace and prosperity for the whole of humanity. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in the past centuries."

David Rockefeller at a Bilderberger meeting in 1992


81 Posted on 09/26/1999 22:07:23 PDT by incindiary
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To: dalereed

Hang em' High!

82 Posted on 09/26/1999 22:11:03 PDT by RURIK
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To: Howlin

Bill Richardson was born in Mexico!

83 Posted on 09/26/1999 22:14:48 PDT by RURIK
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To: wolfpsy

God bless Senator McCarthy, a smeared but vindicated American hero.

84 Posted on 09/26/1999 22:15:42 PDT by Patriot76
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To: All

Okay, here goes ignorance at it's worst.

Why is everyone here assuming that the US will end up on the bottom of this NWO heap? We surely have the best and brightest, the strongest military and financial systems. Our governmental system, as it was founded by those old white haired guys, is the best the world has or will ever see. The only way we can lose is to let others (such as the UN) take control.

Which can happen all too easily without strong leadership, which is our current lot in life.

Not looking for flames here, just some solid information on how we can possibly lose.

85 Posted on 09/26/1999 22:38:34 PDT by Brad C.
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To: All

New World Order Quotes


"Rarely have Americans lived through so much change, in so many ways, in so short a time. Quietly, but with gathering force, the ground has shifted beneath our feet as we have moved into an Information Age, a global economy, a truly new world."

President William Clinton, State of the Union Address 1998



"We must all be profoundly grateful for the magnificent achievements of our forbearers in this century. Yet perhaps in the daily press of events, in the clash of controversy, we don't see our own time for what it truly is – a new dawn for America."

President William Clinton, State of the Union Address 1999



"The new century demands new partnerships for peace and security. The United Nations plays a crucial role, with allies sharing burdens America might otherwise bear alone. America needs a strong and effective U.N. I want to work with this new Congress to pay our dues and our debts. We must continue to support security and stability in Europe and Asia – expanding NATO and defining its new missions, maintaining our alliance with Japan, with Korea, with our other Asian allies, and engaging China."

President William Clinton, State of the Union Address 1999



"We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders."

President George Bush, 1991



"We will succeed in the Gulf. And when we do, the world community will have sent an enduring warning to any dictator or despot, present or future, who contemplates outlaw aggression. The world can therefore seize this opportunity to fufill the long-held promise of a new world order - where brutality will go unrewarded, and aggression will meet collective resistance."

President George Bush, State of the Union Address 1991



"We must establish a new world order based on justice, on equity, and on peace."

Fidel Castro, United Nations 1979



"We are moving toward a new world order, the world of communism. We shall never turn off that road."

Mikhail Gorbachev, 1987



"Our nation is uniquely endowed to play a creative and decisive role in the new order which is taking form around us."

Henry Kissinger, Seattle Post Intelligence 1975



86 Posted on 09/26/1999 22:59:20 PDT by incindiary
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To: incindiary

"We are moving toward a new world order, the world of communism. We shall never turn off that road."

Mikhail Gorbachev, 1987

I must have lost Gorby's most recent address, does anyone know where he is now? It can be proven of course that our worst enemy is the one that is amongst us.

87 Posted on 09/26/1999 23:06:14 PDT by Brad C.
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To: Brad C.

Where he is now? You mean where does he reside? He is living in the People's Republic
of San Francisco, CA.

88 Posted on 09/26/1999 23:15:40 PDT by incindiary
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To: incindiary

"We must establish a new world order based on justice, on equity, and on peace."

Don't anyone forget the definition of peace: THE LACK OF RESISTANCE TO COMMUNISM.

What these people have planned for us is not a grand new touchy feely world but one of world slavery where no one is better off than anyone else except for those who rule us.

89 Posted on 09/27/1999 02:37:54 PDT by dalereed (dalereed@ixpres.com)
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To: flamefront

WOW. Now to figure it out. Thanks.

90 Posted on 09/27/1999 02:55:46 PDT by A+Bert
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To: Anti-Bubba182

That post on Pinkerton yesterday is bringing out a lot of information on this NWO.
The Beltway is a different America. Sorta like the Feudal castle with the serfs living outside on the Lord of the Manor's land

91 Posted on 09/27/1999 03:06:14 PDT by A+Bert
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To: dalereed

Exactly!


NO NWO!

92 Posted on 09/27/1999 03:10:16 PDT by incindiary
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To: incindiary

It should read rule us in perpituity. Our graduated income tax, designed by Marx as one of the 10 points to destroy capitolism, is for the sole purpose of stopping people from ataining wealth and chalanging the rulers position of power. Gates and others like him are only wealthy because of unsold stock gains that avoid the system or you might say play the system the same as the rulers designed it to protect themselves.

Anyone that denies a conspiricy to rule the world with a One World Government is listening to what the brain programers in the government schools have put into their heads. The eye of the iluminati didn't wind up on our $1 bill by accident. One world government was designed well over 200 years ago, the iluminati being part of it, and their plans have not deviated or been scraped. What people don't comprehend is that these people haven't set their goals to be completed within their lifetimes, only that they move forward toward the ultimate goal where most of society sets goals to be met within their lifetimes. The Bush family is and has been a part of the monied elete that are working toward that goal.

93 Posted on 09/27/1999 04:05:33 PDT by dalereed (dalereed@ixpres.com)
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To: wolfpsy

I hear you Lupine Dude, "Those fundamentalist types are costing Republicans the Sedona vote. " One thing these NWO types all have in common is a disdain for G*d, or at least an utter contempt for His followers.

The desire to disarm us (pretend the 2nd Amendment does not exist) makes sense if you are going to create some Fasci-socialist utopia where gays, environmentalists, gaiaists and new-age channelers all live together in harmonious tolerance-of-diversity, but what's the deal with Christians and Ortho-Jews? (Muslim friends, don't get too giddy. Once we're out of the way, you're next on the extinction list) Why are we not included in their utopian community of tolerance and diversity?

Must be that life-is-sacred stuff that could foil their plans.

94 Posted on 09/27/1999 04:59:13 PDT by JohnYankeeCmpsr
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To: thinktwice

We do not pay property taxes for the privilege of using our property, we pay taxes for government services provided for that property - services such as schools, police, fire department and library.

Have you never seen a property tax bill?

Don't be so sarcastic! They'll confiscate your property in a heart beat if you don't pay for those services too! That's my point. Personally, the bulk of my property taxes (yes I do see them!) goes to public school funding. Now do I have a choice about that. . .NO!! You don't own property if the state can take it away from you. PERIOD

95 Posted on 09/27/1999 05:43:28 PDT by alissa
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To: all

Talbott stated in an essay titled "The Birth of the Global Nation" -- that he is looking forward to government run by "one global authority." "Here is one optimist's reason for believing unity will prevail ... within the next hundred years ... nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority," Talbott declared in the July 20, 1992 issue of TIME.
**********
One day, I was talking with a well-read friend (not a conservative) after some recent war, and he sounded like Talbott's dreamy vision. "Wouldn't it be wonderful if everybody in the world could live in a free and propserous society such as we have here?" (you could almost hear "We Are the World" in the background).

No, I said, if there ever is a one-world government, it will have been brought about by the greatest ruthlessness ever known in human history, and what you will have would be Communist-controlled China's system everywhere. If that ever happens, that's it for freedom for centuries to come. The very future of humanity depends on resisting with all our efforts the idea of a unified world government.

96 Posted on 09/27/1999 06:26:46 PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

bttt

97 Posted on 09/27/1999 09:22:15 PDT by wolfpsy
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To: Paul Wilson

"They even cite the opposition to the 2nd by such stalwarts as Clarence Thomas and Renquist. Can this be true?

It can be true that liberals lie.

Clarence Thomas quote in Supreme Court case, occurring with the opinion that the Brady Bill could not force Chief Law Enforcement Agents conduct background checks for people buying guns (don't hear much about that in the media do we?)

Clarence Thomas---"This Court has not had recent occasion to consider the nature of the substantive right safeguarded by the Second Amendment. If, however, the Second Amendment is read to confer a personal right to 'keep and bear arms,' a colorable argument exists that the Federal Government's regulatory scheme, at least as it poertains to the purely interstate sale or possession of firearms, runs afoul of that Amendment's protection. As the parties did not raise this argument, however, we need not consider it here."

Chief Justice Renquist---" The Second Amendment protects 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,' and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments provide that certain rights and powers are retained by and reserved to 'the people.' ....While this textual exegesis is by no means conclusive, it suggests that 'the people' protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second Amendments, and to whom rights and powers are reserved in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, refers to a class of persons who are part of the national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection to this country to be considered part of that community." US v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259 (1990).

Rehnquist did not say "the people" was a state, he said it was individuals.

A Texas Second Amendment case is being appealed by the govt to the Circuit Court (5th I think).

98 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:05:02 PDT by gatex
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To: A+Bert

use the FIND (under edit) to easily locate specific stuff.

BTW, the HTML links are typed in as

The A stands for "anchor" not A+Bert.

that's all, try it.

99 Posted on 09/27/1999 14:28:00 PDT by flamefront (oppose tyranny!)
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To: flamefront

Thanks, I'll play around eith it when things are slow. Promise

100 Posted on 09/27/1999 15:33:04 PDT by A+Bert
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To: flamefront

Typical of statees'

101 Posted on 10/13/1999 18:02:17 PDT by usvotz (`)
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To: alissa

Rodney king rules?

102 Posted on 10/17/1999 18:25:20 PDT by usvotz (`35%of Americans will vote to End the global/communist agenda)
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To: alissa

Pollard ames talbott

103 Posted on 10/30/1999 18:10:06 PDT by usvotz (TV.....Sick Socialists preying on Kids)
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To: powell

Question. Didn't Mr. Talbott accompany Mr. Clinton to the Soviet Union?

104 Posted on 10/30/1999 18:19:26 PDT by wordpecker
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To: Swiss

"We have the Trojan Horse within our governemt."

Exactly.

Which is one of the greatest frustrations. The enemy is entrenched behind our own lines but the defending army (except for, of course, the FR elite corps and perhaps a FEW patriots left within the government who value their country and their freedom more than they value their jobs or their pension).....does not know it!

Is there a course somewhere on how to root out the enemy once it has taken over one's own country....without violence?

105 Posted on 10/30/1999 18:22:58 PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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