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(CNSNews.com) - Commenting on the rape and murder of a 13-year-old Arkansas boy allegedly at the hands of a homosexual couple, gay groups told CNSNews.com that in the interests of justice, investigators and the media should focus on the crime and not on the sexual orientation of the alleged perpetrators.
"It's a tragedy when anyone dies in this way, and anyone who kills them should suffer the severest consequences of the law, no matter what 'side' they are," Mel White, a gay minister and author, told CNSNews.com.
White said the media attention surrounding the killing of 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising in Arkansas and that of homosexual student Matthew Shepard, 22, in Wyoming last year "mustn't be our indicator of how deeply people mourn the losses."
"That's a kind of game we don't want to play. 'Who is suffering more' is not a game anyone can win. The fact is a child died when Matthew Shepard died on that fence, and now a child is dead in Arkansas. We grieve them all equally and we apply the law to all of these killers whoever they are, and whatever their sexual orientation, without respect to person," White said.
White is chairman of Soulforce, an ecumenical organization that teaches "the principles of non-violence on behalf of sexual minorities."
Stephen Spurgeon, the director of communications for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), called the murder of Jesse Dirkhising "a crime of horrific brutality," in a statement to CNSNews.com.
"The intolerable sexual abuse and murder of a boy is the crime and must be the focus of the investigation. The sexual orientation of the alleged killers is not the crime. We share everyone's concern for justice and our sympathies go out to all those who knew and loved Jesse Dirkhising," Spurgeon said.
The trial of Aaron McKinney, 22, the second man charged in the 1998 slaying of Shepard, is currently underway in Laramie, Wyoming. Police allege McKinney and his friend Russell Henderson lured Shepard out of a Laramie bar, pistol whipped him because he was homosexual, and drove him to a remote country road where they left him tied to a fence. Shepard died in a hospital five days later.
The Shepard slaying received broad coverage in the media, and reinvigorated the national debate on the need for special legislation for hate crimes, which are defined as anything from murder to assault against a citizen because of his or her race, religion, gender, national origin or sexual orientation.
By contrast, the Dirkhising murder received scant national coverage. The boy was found close to death at the apartment of two men, who police also described as homosexual lovers.
Joshua Macave Brown, 22, and Davis Don Carpenter, 38, each are charged with one count of capital murder and six counts of rape stemming from the Sept. 26 death of Dirkhising. The accused, who pleaded not guilty, currently are being held without bond.
According to a police affidavit provided to CNSNews.com, Brown testified that on the morning of September 26, he sneaked up on the boy, tied his hands behind his back, placed his pair of undershorts in the teen's mouth and secured the briefs with a bandana and duct tape. He said he blindfolded the youth, bound him to a bed and repeatedly sodomized him while Carpenter watched.
Investigators said they found notes from Carpenter to Brown, instructing him how to bind and sedate a child. A preliminary autopsy showed that the boy died from "positional asphyxiation." Police say the boy was sodomized with several objects.
Christopher D. Plumlee, deputy prosecuting attorney for Benton County, Ark., who investigated Jesse's death, told reporters he was a "little surprised" at the limited coverage this "horrible crime against a child" received.
Calls for equal treatment under the law for all perpetrators by human rights activists echo those of opponents of hate crimes legislation currently being championed by congressional Democrats.
"There is absolutely no question that whenever a person kills, assaults, or rapes another person, they should be swiftly caught, prosecuted and punished to the full extent of the law, including the death penalty," said Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA), in a statement on hate crimes to CNSNews.com.
Hate crimes legislation "has nothing to do with deterring crime, and everything to do with grabbing more power for an already bloated federal government," said Barr, a former federal prosecutor from Atlanta who serves on the House Judiciary Committee.
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Unless, of course, the "alleged perpetrators" are hetrosexual white men.
Bump.
Was faggotry an issue with Jeffrey Dahmer or John Wayne Gacey? The homosexual lifestyle is so inherently sleasey that adherents are naturally predisposed to criminality.
This sounds like a "hate crime" to me. If heterosexual males can be brought to trial for hate crimes for killing a homosexual male, then souldn't homosexual males be tried for "hate crimes", for killing a possible heterosexual child. Si vis pacem, para bellum. DD
For once I agree with the Liberals that we shouldn't just focus on this case. All homosexuals are criminal, not just these two.
Suddenly. This time only.
Don't you just love liberals? ROFL! You gotta "love" anybody who can think like this!
It's becoming more and more obvious that the so-called "hate crime" legislation is just flowery rhetoric which glosses unequal treatment under the law.
And that inequality is yet another example how the politics of group identity erodes the fundamental human rights which took centuries to evolve.
"The intolerable sexual abuse and murder of a boy is the crime and must be the focus of the investigation. The sexual orientation of the alleged killers is not the crime.
But homosexuality was the issue in the Matthew Shepard case, wasn't it?
My, but fast how the tune changes.
Suddenly. This time only.
Exactly!
I'm sure the fags think that if not for a slight miscalculation on the perps part, that there was nothing illegal going on and that this is a sick fantasy of many homos. When a person descends into sodomy, morality has already been totally abandoned and murder is just a tiny step for them. The homos are a tiny minority of the population as a whole and ignore the fact that pedophiles are as likely to be homosexual as heterosexual.
"Sexual minorties"? What next? Hang the fags!
This sounds like a "hate crime" to me. If heterosexual males can be brought to trial for hate crimes for killing a homosexual male, then souldn't homosexual males be tried for "hate crimes", for killing a possible heterosexual child. Si vis pacem, para bellum. DD
Of course it sounds like a hate crime. By their definition it should be. But since homo male perpetrators do not fit their agenda, they are now talking about only viewing crimes from all victims' perspectives. Hypocrisy at its finest. At least we all agree that the victims are the most important part of the story here.
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All homosexuals are criminal, not just these two.
Where do you get that from? Gay people are not by and large criminals.
I think that your remark is an example of the very thing that the gay community is afraid will result from a focus on the sexual orientation of these killers. It is a rash generalization and a non sequitur, at that. You may believe that the homosexual lifestyle is sleazy, and a few may have been serial killers, but that doesn't make the whole gay population predisposed to crime.
That said, I do think that the sexual orientation of the killers is pertinent. In my opinion it doubles the crime, the killers were not just pedophiles, they were homosexual pedophiles.
Why are the press corps not calling the murderers what they are..pedophiles!
Why are the press corps not calling the murderers what they are..pedophiles
Apparently that isn't all they were. The police have reported that the two men were long time lovers. What do you make of that?
Why are the press corps not calling the murderers what they are..pedophiles!
There are anumber of "gay colations" that include NAMBLA, an inherently pedophile group. As homosexuals put their desire for sex above all else, including the welfare of children, it is not shocking that the "gay coalitions" have not tossed out NAMBLA. If they say anything about NAMBLA at all, it is to defend their participation.
Homosexual Hypocrites
"(CNSNews.com) - Commenting on the rape and murder of a 13-year-old Arkansas boy allegedly at the hands of a homosexual couple, gay groups told CNSNews.com that in the interests of justice, investigators and the media should focus on the crime and not on the sexual orientation of the alleged perpetrators."
What a bunch of hypocrites!!!
When the perpetrator of a violent act against a homosexual (e.g. Matthew Shepherd) is a normal person, the homosexual community and their sycophants in the press do nothing but repeatedly vilify the 'sexual orientation' of the attacker(s). It is labeled a 'hate crime' with the perpetrators being subject to fearsome additional penalties.
However, in the case of 2 homosexual adults raping and murdering a 13 year old boy, the homosexual advocates insist that sexual orientation should not be mentioned and the act is certainly not motivated by 'hate'.
Oh, I forgot, only heterosexual white males are bigots, racists, spousal abusers, child abusers, homosexual abusers and all around rotten people.
This garbage from the homosexual community clearly shows they have no interest in justice, fairness or equality. They are focused on legitimization, dominance and supremacy for their freely chosen, perverted lifestyle.
on behalf of sexual minorities."
Racial, ethnic, cultural and now, here it is: SEXUAL minorities. I proclaim it now official!
Your wrong. The violent crime rate amoung homos is much higher than for the normal population. The male vs. male quarrels that are caused by promiscous relationships are much more likely to end violently since the taboo against assaulting the opposite sex is absent. Much of the perverse faggot behavior involves sadism, leather, chains, whips etc, which gets out hand rapidly turning into lethal violence. Whith the ever present sleaze, criminality is just below the surface.
A welcome story, but still a little incomplete:
1.The elder chicken-hawk had complete instructions on how best to tie and drug a young boy in order to effect sodomy.
2.The older perpatrator had bragged to the younger degenerate about having done similar things to boys in all 50 US states.
3.On arrival of the authorities, the younger killer physically attacked the police.
Unless, of course, the "alleged perpetrators" are hetrosexual white men.
I would score a '10' for the activist on the Hypocrisy Meter.
5.56mm
Seems like they want it both ways.
What a bunch of hypocritic bastards! A few weeks ago the fags were crying out "hate crime" for Matt Shepard. Now that a couple of penis puffers killed someone they want to minimize the fact these two were gay.But, in todays society they'll probably get their wish. The liberals in the media will see to that!I just can't believe how sick society has become.
So, why did they not ASK them why they fought so hard to make sure Matthew Shephards sexual orientation made every news article? It is rediculous to believe the sexual orientation of these men is not an issue in this crime, if they had not been Homosexual Pedaphiles that boy would be alive now! It has just as much to do with this story as the fact Matthew Sheppard was beaten to death! This group is just being dishonest. I have nothing against homosexuals, but I do have a big problem with the groups who do this spin crap to push an agenda and will tell any lie in order to achieve it!
Bump to the top!
This sounds like a "hate crime" to me. If heterosexual males can be brought to trial for hate crimes for killing a homosexual male, then souldn't homosexual males be tried for "hate crimes", for killing a possible heterosexual child.
It's a subtle difference, but there is a difference. Matthew Shepard's killers attacked him because of their hatred of his homosexuality. The homosexuals in Arkansas attacked the boy because they are perverted and wanted sex with him not because they hated his heterosexuality. All crimes of violence are hate crimes.
"That's a kind of game we don't want to play. 'Who is suffering more' is not a game anyone can win. The fact is a child died when Matthew Shepard died on that fence, and now a child is dead in Arkansas. We grieve them all equally and we apply the law to all of these killers whoever they are, and whatever their sexual orientation, without respect to person," White said.
Say what?!!! Matthew Shepard was 22 years old. A LEGAL adult in every state. Jason was 13 - not even in high school yet.
This is exactly how the libs get their phony crime statistics about gun violence and youth. They lump 18-21 years olds in as children.
One other problem with this statement - if I remember correctly, Matthew Shepard didn't die on that fence, he died in the hospital later. Can anyone verify this?
It's a subtle difference, but there is a difference.
The question is, is it a meaningful difference that justifies making Shepard into a national icon and maximizing the homosexual aspect of his murder, ignoring Dirkhising and minimizing the homosexual aspect of his murder, and implementing hate crime legislation that gives Shepard-type murders a pre-eminent emphasis over Dirkhising-type murders in terms of giovernment involvement.
I say that there is no meaningful difference in terms of the need to protect each type of victim from violent crime. There is only a political difference: the uneven emphasis serves to advance a liberal political agenda on behalf of a certain favored liberal consituency.
All crimes of violence are hate crimes.
Too right. The Shepard thing was murder, and the perps have been found guilty. What was going through their sick heads is irrelevant. This thing is murder as well, and the motivation is equally irrelevant, especially to the victim.
There is, of course, considerable hypocrisy in gay activists playing up the one and ignoring the other. But I agree that the crime is the issue. Make homosexuality the issue and you pave the way for the defense that the whole thing was just a silly, consensual S/M scene that went wrong (and never mind that the kid was only 13 and reportedly not gay). Make kidnapping, rape, and murder the issue and they hang.
I didn't hear them saying this in regards to the murder of Matthew Sheppard. Is there a difference???
Do you have a source for the "did it in 50 states" bit?
His pattern of moving around made that sound likely, but I had seen no accusation or confirmation in the old media.
Absolutely--Positively!! "Gays" like to use the word "Homophobic" when they are criticised. Hey, "Gay," when you prey on and committ crimes such as this one, shouldn't we be afraid. I see in the news today, that the fact that a young man killed a gay who attempted to molest him cannot use this attempt as self-defense. Put me on the jury and this young man goes free, and deserves a medal for the killing. When I was a teenager, I wish I had had the guts to do the same. Scumbags!!!
"Crime is Issue, not Homosexuality of Suspects."
I would agree with this under one condition, that if the leftist Press would say about the Shepard case, "Crime is Issue, not Homophobia of Suspects." Will we ever hear this about any of the leftist-labelled "hate crimes?" Of course not.
"...in the interests of justice, investigators and the media should focus on the crime and not on the sexual orientation of the alleged perpetrators."
"unless the victim was homosexual, then that's the most important thing."
Folks are right to point out that Shepard was killed in large part due to his sexual orientation. Fine. But the 13 year old in this case was killed in large part due to his own sexual orientation....he wasn't gay, and thus had to be tied down, and gagged and drugged, in order that the perps could more readily sodomize him against his will.
Why are not the Feds involved for the civil rights violations perpetrated in this crime???
Where is Janet Reno? After all, she was worried about Koresh abusing children at Mt. Carmel. What of this case?
I would agree with this under one condition, that if the leftist Press would say about the Shepard case, "Crime is Issue, not Homophobia of Suspects."
That sums it up quite nicely. These are words the media will not--cannot--say without betraying their fundamental liberal biases.
"Stephen Spurgeon, the director of communications for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), called the murder of Jesse Dirkhising "a crime of horrific brutality," in a statement to CNSNews.com.
"The intolerable sexual abuse and murder of a boy is the crime and must be the focus of the investigation. The sexual orientation of the alleged killers is not the crime. We share everyone's concern for justice and our sympathies go out to all those who knew and loved Jesse Dirkhising," Spurgeon said."
Well, that's the first sensible thing said.
"There is absolutely no question that whenever a person kills, assaults, or rapes another person, they should be swiftly caught, prosecuted and punished to the full extent of the law, including the death penalty," said Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA), in a statement on hate crimes to CNSNews.com.
Hate crimes legislation "has nothing to do with deterring crime, and everything to do with grabbing more power for an already bloated federal government," said Barr, a former federal prosecutor from Atlanta who serves on the House Judiciary Committee."
And there's the second.
"The intolerable sexual abuse and murder of a boy is the crime and must be the focus of the investigation...." What is tolerable sexual abuse, or tolerable sex, for these, these future corpse?
What does N.A.M.B.L.A.( North American Man-Boy Love Association) have to say? Check out http://www.nambla.org/
It is acts like these that makes me wish for a decade or so of some kind of "ethnic cleansing."
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