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Over the past few years, I have been particularly harsh in my criticism of Bill Clinton -- but I have always tried to be fair. Even though the depth of my contempt for him is bottomless, it is impossible for me to remain silent when I see him suffering a serious injustice. Reluctantly, but in the spirit of honest commentary, I rise to his defense.
Recently, one of Rupert Murdoch's newspapers, the New York Post, took a poll to identify the 25 "Most Evil People" of the millennium. The paper provided a long list of notoriously wicked people, and asked readers to pick the most evil. Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham were not on the list, but made a good showing as "write-ins."
Nineteen-thousand readers participated. Adolf Hitler barely edged out Bill Clinton for first place, and Josef Stalin came in third. Pol Pot was fourth, and Nazi death-camp doctor Josef Mengele was fifth. Hillary Rodham came in sixth, followed by Saddam Hussein, Adolf Eichman, Charles Manson and Idi Amin, which rounds out the Top 10.
The injustice is not that Bill Clinton was voted in as one of the top, world-class, evil men in the last thousand years. The injustice is that, with a level playing field, he might have come in first.
It is obvious that Clinton would have scored even better on the poll if the mainstream media and the Democratic Party had not stayed for so long in abject denial of their leader's brazen in-your-face degeneracy and corruption. If he had tattooed "I AM EVIL" on his forehead, the media would have explained it away as a birthmark, Hillary would have claimed that it was the result of a vicious, right-wing DNA conspiracy, and 43 percent of the American public would have believed them.
For the poll to have been fair, more consideration should have been given to the environment within which Clinton works. While Hitler and Stalin had the enthusiastic support of 100 percent of the media in their countries, Clinton has never been able to count on the support of more than about 92 percent of the American media. And while Stalin and Hitler sent the Secret Service and storm troopers to "take care" of opponents, the best Clinton could do was send the IRS. And as vile and vicious as the IRS is, it is no match for brown-shirted Nazis or KGB thugs.
The point is that Clinton has not had a clear field for reaching his full potential. Think of what he might have been able to do without the constraints of a strong opposition party, a testy Supreme Court, the Pope, Southern Baptists, Ken Starr, Rush Limbaugh, and Paula Jones.
Why is this important? It is important because topping the list as the most evil man of the millennium is Clinton's only chance for any kind of legacy. Second place simply won't get it done. It is not good enough that Adolf Hitler is Alpha Evil while Bill Clinton trails along as Beta Evil. What kind of legacy is that?
Any student of history understands that, in the right time and place, the justification of evil is more than possible. Josef Stalin rationalized his mass murders to himself and to many American intellectual elitists with these words: "You cannot make a revolution with silk gloves" and "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." Adolf Hitler convinced an entire nation that Jews were a "virus" infecting the human gene pool, and that getting rid of them was virtuous.
If anybody could make a virtue of being tops on an evil list, Clinton could. The times are overripe for it. Given the trends in moral decay and social rot, it is entirely possible that it will not be long before the distinction between good and evil will have either completely disappeared or been totally reversed.
You can hear the Clintonese: "Doesn't it depend on what the meaning of evil is? Is evil done in pursuit of a good result truly evil?" and "Who are you to judge what is in another man's heart?"
The second place rating was an interim judgment. Clinton is an evil work-in-progress. Is the presidency of the United Nations and a world platform in his future? Infanticide without tears and the unrepented deaths of innocents at Waco, Texas, and in Yugoslavia hint at the capacity for grand-scale massacres and wars, justified as necessary for the defense of human rights and freedoms.
Although Hillary was the only women to make the Top 25 list, beating out such contenders as Jack the Ripper and Ivan the Terrible, she hit the evil glass ceiling and only placed sixth. It's a travesty. Were it not for the good old bad-boys club, she might have edged out both Bill and Adolf.
WorldNetDaily contributor Linda Bowles is a
nationally syndicated columnist. She and her
husband, Warren, have one daughter, Michelle, and
live on a ranch situated on the western slope of the
California Sierras.
Read the whole article as it is rife with sarcastic wit.
Bump! Great post.
I can't add a single word. When your right your right!!
bump
Over the years I've had a favorite political joke, which is:
"The secret to success is sincerity! Once you can fake that, you've got it made!"
A few weeks ago I realized that our Bill Clinton has found the secret to success.
A close look and Hillary has Billy by the b---- and maybe she is even higher than he is if the whole truth was known. If she has credit coming she should get it as freepers are generally very fair.
Ms. Linda Bowles wrote an article on the klinton-legacy...classic!
If you could post it, that would be great!
I wish the FR would have the top 100, of the month and year category, we could vote-post to!
The FR should have it own "writers-town-hall of fame," for the visitors welcoming-get-aquainted(baptize)committee!
(Firehat)Zingers-shockers(Norm Liebmann) of truth, justice, and reality(fun-on-the-FR).
Even a Rush-room of frolicking through the liberal garden of periditions!
We could call it..the VRWC haven-heaven!
The column did not deserve a first look. The columnist assumes guilt on nothing more than a counterfactual.
The injustice is that, with a level playing field, he might have come in first.
I disagree. Admittedly, Bill had affairs in the Oval Office, broke his oath of office by lying to the American Public, and a lot of other serious stuff. But Bill would have only come in second.
Hillary is actually more evil than Bill. If the public only knew that Hillary ran the White House, that she was the mastermind behind FBI Filegate, that she used those FBI files to destroy people's lives, that she ordered the firing of the White House Travel Office staff, that she directed the White House Counsel lawyers to identify and cover up 39 Clinton scandals, that she devised the scheme to sell seats on Commerce trade missions (Where a plane load of people, including Ron Brown were killed), etc., etc., then Hillary would have come in first!
calling bill and hillary "evil" misses the point. these two are, like the evil empire was, the focus of evil in the modern world. they are the antichrist. they represent all that is the opposite of good. they speak for satan as much as anyone does. they are bad people.
Hilarious article!! I have often said it my self -- that Clinton would have been as evil as the others had he the same opportunity, and who knows, he might still get the chance!
However, the author forgot about John Morris Head of Teamster Local 115 and the Pennsylvania Conference of Teamsters -- his "boys" are Clinton's brownshirts!!!
Linda Bowles, if you were a Freeper, this would have been a Essay of the YEAR. I wish I had thought of this angle first. I clearly need to put my thinking cap on.
.... I... am ashamed....
Bump. Thanks for posting it.
It's ridiculous that anyone would consider Bill Clinton to even be in the same league with two dictators who killed about 50 million people between them. Clinton is more of a buffoon than a butcher.
Anyone who has read "Hell to Pay" by Barbara Olson, has a very good idea of how very evil Hitlery is. That woman should have been in jail long ago--even back to her days at Wellsley she was commiting crimes.
For those who have lost faith, Bowles makes an important point:
"The point is that Clinton has not had a clear field for reaching his full potential. Think of what he might have been able to do without the constraints of a strong opposition party, a testy Supreme Court, the Pope, Southern Baptists, Ken Starr, Rush Limbaugh, and Paula Jones.
Wouldn't they have had fun with no opposition! And they had free run of both the House and Senate for two years. Gives me yet faith in the Republic.
"Oh say does that star-spangled banner yet wave"
Remember, there's always that tiny group of radical left wing suckers that will defend that human garbage. They see their own lack of character in him.
The Clintons:
Yet the Democratic senators, in lock step, prferred Clinton over Gore, made it possible for Clinton to get away with waht appears to be almost anything. If the Democrats had been in a majority in the Senate who knows what all Clinton would have done.
Lighten up, Francis.
Would you like to be "convicted" on the basis of what you might have done if the police had been on strike?
but I have always tried to be fair.
Good article, I know author was tongue-in-cheek but I have a comment. NEVER try to be fair with someone who does not know the meaning of fairness. In fact, we should do our best to treat them UNFAIRLY.
...counterfactual.
Your back, Chris M with a good word, "counterfactual". Yes, it's in the dictionary. Yes, I agree that the clinton's (lower case on purpose) don't deserve a top ten rating (I mean look at the Stalins, Moas, Hitlers and Pol Pots of the world). But, there is plenty of time between now and 1700 hrs. Jan 20, 2001. Let us see if the time passes without tribulation. Maybe then, we can all rest easy.
5.56mm
Hitler can't kill any more. Clinton is still at large, and will continue killing until he wins the #1 spot or is locked up.
Mrs. Bowles has nailed it. If bill & hillary were among the listed choices, they most likely would have placed #1 and #2 (it's a tossup as to which would be #1).
The main point: They ain't done yet.
Sounds fair
The point is that Clinton has not had a clear field for reaching his full potential.
Thank God we will never know what Clinton's full potential was for evil. Maybe in 40 years when most of the sycophants in the media and academia have passed away, the veil of deceit will be removed and fully exposed.
I hope I live long enough to see it.
I don't think clinton is the most evil.
When i look at those who are really evil i think of those who killed a large percentage of the country's population i mean as in murder not i sick of seeing your @#%^&!# seeing face or hearing you.
Clinton is close to the top simply because of damage in the long-term that will occur also you can count on russia joining a rare club the club of those who have nukes.
Look, Chris or whoever you are...Your boy 'Toon has skated so far, in the face of solid evidence (re: Impeachment trial) on the perception of public opinion. That same opinion now says he is, more than likely, evil. This was just a poll, based on people's opinions, and that does not require a trial and all that. It's just what people think of the slug.
Live by the polls, die by 'em, I say.
russia i meant china
"you can count on russia joining a rare club the club of those who have nukes."
This is a puzzling comment...They have been in the "club," as it were, since 1948, I believe, after the Rosenbergs handed over the secrets...
They have had them, too. Since the early '50's. But I get your meaning...our posts crossed in cyberspace, huh?
Gees, SFConservative..........If you could get that all on a poster, it would be great for a WH Freep. Way to go SF.
The She-Devil would and has done whatever it takes to put herself in a power position....Billy-Boy needs to watch his back...
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"Gees, SFConservative..........If you could get that all on a poster, it would be great for a WH Freep. Way to go SF."
My thoughts exactly, O Great Per!!! The minute I read SFConservative's list, I said "Oh---would that make a GREAT poster!!" It truely sums up the Clintons in a neat list.
Dittos on "Way to go SF!!!!"
I hate the Clintons with a passion. But for Bowles to say that Clinton is more evil than Hitler or Stalin is hyperbole which trivializes the Holocaust and the Gulag.
America USED to be a great nation because Americans were GOOD people, but with the elections of the Clintons and their minions, the facade of being a good people has been ripped away, like a bandage covring an ugly wound. He has made a once great party, the Democrats, into the DEPRAVED party of Flynt, Carvile, Dr. Lewinsky (whocould rank as the MOST depraved), etc.....Clinton has exposed our soft, corrupt underbelly for ALL the world to see, and has pitted black against white, man against woman, straight against gay, rich against poor, religious against non-religious, Christian against Jew, and has kept this entire country in an upheaval.
Clinton is the PERFECT DEMOCRAT.....corrupt liar.
Conceding everything you said, I still have to ask whether it is more evil to demonize your opposition in the press or have them slaughtered in secret. Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot didn't hesitate one moment to wipe out thousands of people for the least provocation or even no provocation at all. We really need to maintain proper perspective here.
Thank You.
And Linda is right on. Your right.
Before they had a lot of people slaughtered, those other folks started at one time with the same delusional "end-justifies-the-means" personality that the Clintons have.
At some point they discovered "another means", a bloody one, toward serving that great objective they had dedicated themselves to. It takes the evil personality plus the opportunity to take the cause to the limits. The Clintons have had only limited opportunity so far ... let's NEVER give more to them.
Incidentally, another important quality of the Clintons I left off my list inadvertently:
It took you until only a few weeks ago?
I guess that isn't too bad, because I think ole Beelzebubba still has much of the nation bamboozeled.
Actually I wouldn't mind seeing them share the #1 spot. Perhaps this story circulating that she ordered the bombing campaign against Kosovo and Yugoslavia might just do the trick.
All through the last winter a bunch of us did hang out together on mIRC, DalNet #Free_Republic. It was great fun and none of us bickered at all about who we were going to support next November. We just had a great time bashing the Clintonistas and hanging out together.
Dale Reed is still usually lurking around there and a few of us still stop by from time to time. If you find your way onto mIRC and DalNet, look us up. The more the merrier.
You don't really deserve a reply, but I will be gracious.
Thanks for sharing you view. As you can tell not many on this thread agree with your opinion. But thanks for posting it nonetheless.
You don't really deserve a reply, but I will be gracious.
Thanks for sharing you view. As you can tell not many on this thread agree with your opinion. But thanks for posting it nonetheless.
Your right Jeter, I hope. But if it turns out that the transfer of missile technology to China brings us into the fire, then you are wrong.
People have been dying in these peoples wake for many years. Perhaps they should be sharing the top spot?
I just enjoy Linda Bowles writing skills and the sardonic wit she employed in this article.
Yes sir, you are correct. Bill and Hillary have a great number of "brown shirts" out there. While the article is a form of humor, the Clintons are anything but humerous. Actually, I take great pride in being a "Clinton Hater".
Always have and always will.
Greg Adams
aka ImpBill
Ahhhhhh Laz, Linda is one of my favorite writers. You can catch her stuff regularily on World Net Daily. Bookmark the source URL. One of my all time favorite articles is here Time for America's Remnant to stand strong (click here>.
Your welcome and a bump back.
While I might be willing to be convinced that Clintons actions are not quite in the league of killers of millions, I don't agree that the people that died at his direction were the victims of a buffoon. People dying as a diversion from your crimes are still innocent victims and a number of them have died for no other reason. Clinton is an evil, lying, raping, murderous traitor and he deserves every bit of infamy we can heap upon him.
Just in case you didn't realize, I detest the bastard.
Do you know if Ms. Olson's book is available on line yet?
You are correct nicollo. Underneath this sarcasm is a huge thread of truth. And we still have another 13 months of "El Beelzebubba" left. He still has control of the "football".
Well sardonic wit in writing only works when there is a great measure of truth acting as the motivating catalyst.
I'll smoke to that.
Say is that cigar a "Mucho El Perverto, Opus XXX" or a "Monicanudo"?
ImpBill, this article actually mirrors my response on a previous thread. This was the question and statement I responded to:
"Do you honestly believe that Bill and Hillary are the second and sixth most evil people in history? If so, you need to read some history."
This was my response.
Within the constraints of our legal system and society, yes. If this same couple were in a position of dicatorial power, they would definitely be vying for number one in atrocities committed. The question is evil, not how many millions slaughtered.
One little isolated incident, the bombing of a pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan. Without access to the medications available from this factory the Sudanese are experiencing rampant epidemics. The access prior for the average Sudanese was limited, but now it does not exist. Tens of thousands of Sudanese were placed at risk when Clinton bombed their only pharmaceutical to distract attention from his nastiness.
Do you think he gave a moments concern as to the devastating effects the bombing of this pharmaceutical would have to the people of Sudan? This is a creature that would do anything to anybody in pursuit of power and self aggrandizement.
Do you think this creature has lost a moment of sleep over the children that were incinerated at Waco? Do you think he has lost a moment of sleep over the Serbs who died due to cluster bombs? BTW, cluster bombs are considered by the international community to be illegal when involving civilians. I could go on and on. These are some of his atrocities that have been committed under a thinly veiled guise of national interest. The reality is these atrocities are committed to meet an agenda that are in no way connected to "in the national interest."
Actually, I decided to go on and on. Let's look at what he has done to the citizens of Iraq. The eve of the impeachment vote he has us attack the Iraqi citizens. These people are already dying in phenomenal numbers due to sanctions. More Iraqis' had to die to accomodate his attempt to thwart his day of accountability. Now imagine this creature having dictatorial power and tell me that he is not evil on the par of Hitler, Stalin, etc.
Knowing Ms. Bowles through her writing I am certain that was not here point. Obviously you did't see the survey results from the NY Post on line survey. Ms. Bowles, if you had read a bit closer, was only commenting, sardonically, on those results. It was an actual on line survey. Billary and Hillary were not even listed but the NY Post left room for write in candidate and many hundreds of people out there in the cyber community made the choices.
Chill out and enjoy the moment unless you are one of Bill's apologists. If you are then you are on the wrong forum.
You have me convinced sue. Of course I have know how evil this pair have been and are capable of yet being for a long time to come. Most of the "sheeple" out there can't handle the truth and that is unfortunate. If they could he would have never been elected in the first place.
The sad sobering fact of this entire episode in our history is that the mere fact that Bill Clinton was elected, re-elected and withstood an Impeachment says far more about us as a nation than it does about him.
Think about it! Perhaps if more people would they would understand my oft quoted tag from the StephenWolf lyric in "Monster".
Clinton is more of a buffoon than a butcher.
Yes, but he supports the murder of....let's see...about 40 million babies. That enough of a butcher for you? I don't think Hitler single-handedly killed a single Jew either, so do go there!
I didn't mean to get carried away. I just cannot believe that there are people who post here that could actually doubt the level of evil that resides within those 2. Anyway, great post.
I swear as God is my wittness, I said this the other day. I told my wife that if the Clinton's had the unmitigated license to as they wished that so many other dictators have had, they would leave have left the Hitlers and Stalins in the dust. What astonishes me is that others have reached the same conclusion. Maybe a lot more than I would have originally thought.
Beautiful! Thank you, ImpBill and MEGA THANKS to Linda Bowles, columnist of the century!
To the sentences: "The point is that Clinton has not had a clear field for reaching his full potential. Think of what he might have been able to do without the constraints of a strong opposition party, a testy Supreme Court, the Pope, Southern Baptists, Ken Starr, Rush Limbaugh, and Paula Jones."......and without the magnificent Free Republic, from the Jim Robinson family of heroes to the DC Chapter to the exquisite ads and ideas and protests the country over.......just imagine how evil he might have been!
Which is why the Number One Goal (besides enslaving us to the Communist/Marxist Globalist Eutopia with him as El Supremo Dictator and her as Da Enforcer) is to SILENCE ALL THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN AND WHO PROCLAIM THEIR EVIL! Bravo NY Post for having the poll so it could actually be done right and BRAVO all those poll respondents for telling the WORLD HE HAS NOT GOTTEN AWAY WITH HIS EVIL AFTER ALL!
Well said! Clinton and the DNC have always believed in destroying this country in order to further their power crazed goals. The destruction that has been wrought will not ever be undone, IMHO, unless God's grace intervenes.
We have lost, individually and the world has lost America and all it stood for thanks to Bill and Hillary Clinton and their cohorts in the Marxicrat party....which is EXACTLY what they were aiming for! In order to stand on the ashes of our once great nation and proclaim the "Third Way" Socialist/Marxist/Maoist Triumph over American reactionary imperialism.
I never ever thought I would live to see this day, but it has come. We, the puny protestors in print, together make a loud shout of resistance, but that's about all. They have the power and they are totally corrupt and evil. The only thing that has stood in their way has been America's tradition as a nation under law, with all equal under that law. NO MORE.
Linda Bowles was wrong about one thing. The Clinton criminal organization understands and has used much more than just the IRS for its crimes. Just ask Vince Foster, Jerry Parks, and the OKC victims, to name a few.
Excellent in-a-nutshell analysis of the Clintons' major characteristics! If anyone missed it and would like to read it, it's #17.
Thanks, QE ...
But I left one key characteristic out and it's in post #40 above.
So what cruise packages are available in Iowa?? - jes' kiddin'!
There is no need to apologize about getting carried away. I have been on the edge for 7 years now. The other day I think it was Maureen Dowd said we will never be rid of the Clintons. I thought, "Crap, I have already, more than likely, taken a year or so off my life stewing about these vile people and the state of our Republic. At this rate I might not even see the y2k."
I sure am glad that final judgement is not up to me. If it were I might change the rules in Bill and Hill's case. Oh heck throw in James Car-Vile, Paul Will Be-gag-ya, Tom the Dung Heap Harkin, ... well you get my drift.
It seems as if you are right, although I know they did have some Freeper help.
Well said, and a BRAVO bump for saying it.
"Incidentally, another important quality of the Clintons I left off my list inadvertently:
They have a talent for inciting distrust ranging to hatred between different population groups."
There is so much to detest the Clintonistas about, but this reason really is a subtle one that many of us don't think about.
In its total affect the Clinton legacy may well be that he tore the fiber of American society beyond any hope of repair. I often wonder if we will ever mend as a nation.
Will we as a Nation ever be able to wash the stench of Clintonism from our national psyche and return to "One nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all"?
I bet I have hated him longer than you!!! Since before he was elected the first time!
I have a cousin by the same name!
To me he was an obvious phoney baloney who insulted my intelligence and whose prominence was borne of a most corrupt Arkansas government.
Why don't we just agree that we have "hated" him about the same length of time.
Of course we could make a contest out of "who hates the Clintons the most."
I really have a visceral loathing for them and their defenders.
I wonder if this thread will take off again?
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