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Bush Son Had Dinner Plans With Hinckley Brother Before Shooting

Crime/Corruption Front Page News Keywords: NEIL BUSH, GEORGE W. BUSH, GEORGE BUSH, JOHN W. HINCKLEY JR., SCOTT HINCKLEY
Source: The Associated Press
Published: March 31, 1981 Author: wire
Posted on 11/29/1999 17:58:33 PST by Wallaby

Bush Son Had Dinner Plans With Hinckley Brother Before Shooting
The Associated Press
Domestic News
March 31, 1981, Tuesday, PM cycle

HOUSTON
The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign, the Houston Post reported today.


Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.
The newspaper said in a copyright story, Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.

The newspaper said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana.

In 1978, Neil served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the vice president's oldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980.

On Monday, Neil Bush said he did not know if he had ever met 25-year-old John Hinckley.


From what I know and I've heard, they (the Hinckleys) are a very nice family and have given a lot of money to the Bush campaign."
SHARON BUSH

"I have no idea," he said. "I don't recognize any pictures of him. I just wish I could see a better picture of him.

Sharon Bush, Neil's wife, said Scott Hinckley was coming to their house as a date of a girl friend of hers.

"I don't even know the brother. From what I know and I've heard, they (the Hinckleys) are a very nice family and have given a lot of money to the Bush campaign. I understand he was just the renegade brother in the family. They must feel awful," she said.

The dinner was canceled, she added.

George W. Bush said he was unsure whether he had met John W. Hinckley.

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Previous Houston [Report Links Suspect with Bushes]
U.P.I.
March 31, 1981, Tuesday, PM cycle

DENVER
N eil Bush, son of Vice President George Bush, is part of Denver's booming oil business scene so it was not unusual his path would cross that of Scott Hinckley, the older brother of the man who shot President Reagan.


Young George Bush did not recall meeting the suspect.... ''It's certainly conceivable that I met him or might have been introduced to him,'' he said. ''I don't recognize his face from the brief, kind of distorted thing they had on TV and the name doesn't ring any bells."
The younger Bush, a ''land man'' for the Amoco Oil Co. in Denver, told the Houston Post in a copyright story published today he and Scott Hinckley were to have had dinner together tonight. The dinner party at Neil and Sharon Bush's modest one-story home in southeast Denver was canceled.

Scott Hinckley, vice president of Vanderbuilt Energy Co., the independent oil and gas exploration firm founded by his father in Texas and moved to Denver in 1974, was secluded with his parents at the home of a neighbor and not available for comment on his acquaintance with Bush.

Bush, whose job involves preliminary negotiations between Amoco and various owners of land for prospective oil and gas wells, also could not be reached.

Amoco spokesman R.N. Murphy said hundreds of independent energy companies were moving to Denver in anticipation of the oil shale and coal development boom on Colorado's Western Slope.

''It is not unusual for companies to enter into a joint drilling venture but to my knowledge there are no partnerships between Amoco and Vanderbuilt Energy,'' said Murphy. ''I have contacts with all the major companies but I had never heard of Hinckley until yesterday.

Bush told the Post he knew the Hinckley family because they had made large contributions to the vice president's campaign. He said he could not recall meeting John Hinckley Jr., who shot President Reagan and three other men as they exited the Washington Hilton Hotel Monday.

''I don't recognize any pictures of him,'' Bush said. ''I just wish I could see a better picture of him.''

Sharon Bush said she did not know the suspect.

''They (the Hinckleys) are a nice family ... and have given a lot of money to the Bush campaign,'' she said. ''I understand he (John Hinckley) was just the renegade brother in the family. They must feel awful.''

Another of the vice president's sons, George W. Bush, lived in Lubbock in 1978 and ran unsuccessfully for Congress. Police have said John Hinckley Jr. lived in Lubbock at that time and once attended Texas Tech University.

Young George Bush did not recall meeting the suspect.

''It's certainly conceivable that I met him or might have been introduced to him,'' he said. ''I don't recognize his face from the brief, kind of distorted thing they had on TV and the name doesn't ring any bells.

''I know he wasn't on our staff. I could check our volunteer rolls.''

Peter Teeley, the vice president's news secretary, said by telephone from Washington he knew nothing about any Hinckley-Bush family connection.

''I don't know a damned thing about it,'' Teeley told a Post reporter. ''I was talking to someone earlier tonight and I couldn't even remember his (Hinckley's) name. All I know is what you're telling me.''


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Family 'Destroyed' By Assassination Attempt
By JOHN MOSSMAN, Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press.
April 1, 1981, Wednesday, PM cycle

EVERGREEN, Colo.
The parents of John W. Hinckley Jr., "just destroyed" by their son's alleged assassination attempt on President Reagan, hope to see him "as soon as possible" but have no definite travel plans, their attorney says.


The father's move [temporarily relinquishing his duties as chairman of Vanderbilt Energy Corp.] came amid confirmation that the Department of Energy was reviewing Vanderbilt's books. Jack Vandenberg, a DOE spokesman in Washington, said auditors met with Scott Hinckley in Denver on Monday
John Hinckley Sr. and his wife, Joanne, stayed at their next-door neighbors' house all day Tuesday as 70 reporters assembled on the front lawn and gawkers drove slowly past.

A statement released by counsel for Vanderbilt Energy Corp. said the elder Hinckley had "temporarily relinquished his duties" as chairman of the Denver-based firm "because of a tragedy involving a member of his family."

John Hinckley Jr., 25, who was arrested seconds after Reagan was shot in Washington, was being held Tuesday at a Marine base in Quantico, Va.

The corporate statement did not mention any change for Scott B. Hinckley, vice president of operations for Vanderbilt and brother of John Jr.

The father's move came amid confirmation that the Department of Energy was reviewing Vanderbilt's books. Jack Vandenberg, a DOE spokesman in Washington, said auditors met with Scott Hinckley in Denver on Monday.

The Washington Star quoted an unnamed "White House official" as confirming that DOE auditors asked for an explanation of an overcharge when oil price controls were in effect between 1973 and 1981. The Star said DOE auditors told Scott Hinckley there was a possible penalty of $2 million for the overcharge.

The Hinckleys, through attorney James Robinson, issued a brief statement Tuesday expressing their "deep concern" for President Reagan and all those involved in Monday's shooting, including their son, John.

Robinson said the Hinckleys had spoken by telephone to their son Monday night and Tuesday afternoon and were trying to hire a Washington lawyer for him. It was confirmed later in Washington that the Hinckleys had retained the law firm of millionaire defense attorney Edward Bennett Williams.

The Hinckleys said they planned to see their son "as soon as possible, but at this time they have no definite travel plans worked out," Robinson said.

They sent "personal expressions of sorrow" to the wounded men and their families, he said.

The Hinckleys reiterated through Robinson that they have provided psychiatric care for their son in the past, adding that "recent evaluations alerted no one to the seriousness of his condition."

William Sells, the Hinckleys' next-door neighbor and in whose home the couple was staying Tuesday, said the couple was "just destroyed" by their son's arrest and the attempt made on Reagan's life.

In Washington, an aide to Vice President George Bush disputed a Houston Post report that the Hinckleys made large contributions to Bush's presidential campaign. The aide, Shirley Green, said no record of such a contribution could be found.

The Houston newspaper also reported that Scott Hinckley was to have dined Tuesday night in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.

Neil Bush's wife Sharon said Scott Hinckley was coming to their house as the date of one of her girlfriends.

"I don't even know the brother," she said. "I understand he was just the renegade brother in the family. They must feel awful."

The FBI investigated a bomb threat directed against the Hinckleys on Tuesday, but nothing came of it.

The senior Hinckley is described by associates as a devout Christian who belonged to a weekly Bible reading club and recently did work in Africa for a Christian service organization.


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[Clements Criticizes Shooting Coverage]
By FRANK COOK
United Press International
March 31, 1981, Tuesday, AM cycle

FORT WORTH, Texas
Gov. Bill Clements Tuesday criticized reporters for concentrating on Texas links to various assassination attempts, including the attempt on President Reagan, saying if newspeople continued to link the state to would-be killers the state's reputation would be seriously damaged.


''This hasn't got anything to do with Texas, but if the news media works on it long it long enough it could hurt the state.'
GOV. BILL CLEMENTS
Clements talked with reporters briefly after addressing the Southwest Cattle Raisers Association Convention.

Although the governor lives in Highland Park and is involved in the oil business, he said he did not know the family of accused assassin John W. Hinckley Jr., 25, previously of Highland Park, whose father is president of Vanderbilt Energy Corp. of Denver.

Clements said he felt ''horrible'' when he heard Hinckley was from Texas, the same state in which Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated President John Kennedy in 1963 and where Mark Chapman, killer of former Beatle John Lennon, was born.

''This hasn't got anything to do with Texas, but if the news media works on it long it long enough it could hurt the state,'' Clements said.

''People in public office always run a risk of this sort of thing. There will always be unstable people, and this young man (Hinckley) was unstable.''

Clements said he had not increased his personal security since the assassination attempt Monday in Washington and said he and others in public life accepted the possiblity of having attempts made on their lives as a part of public service.

''Anyone in public life, be it the mayor of Fort Worth, city councilmen or the governor, has to expect there is a certain risk there,'' he said. ''It's just part of it.''

Despite the assassination attempt in which a ''Saturday night special'' was used, Clements said he still opposed strict handgun controls.

''Guns have to be registered in Texas now,'' he said. ''I'm not sure it would help. People will be able to get guns.''

Clements was with Vice President George Bush on Bush's aircraft in Austin a short time after the assassination attempt on Reagan, but would not characterize Bush's mood at the time.

He also said he received a call from the White House Monday night but did not say who he received the call from or what was discussed.

Clements did say, however, the caller said Reagan was ''doing fine.''

The governor did not comment on the assassination attempt during his address to the cattlemen, more than 2,500 of whom are attending the convention.

Bush addressed the convention Monday morning just minutes before Reagan was shot. Air Force Two carrying Bush went to Austin where the vice president met with Clements before returning to Washington.


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New novel questions probe of Reagan shooting
By THERESA WALLA
U.P.I.
March 9, 1985, Saturday, BC cycle

HELENA, Mont.
Journalism professor Nathaniel Blumberg was so disturbed about the investigation into the attempted assassination of President Reagan that he turned his suspicions into a 377-page novel.


Hinckley's brother was scheduled to have supper with Bush's son the day after the assassination attempt, which struck Blumberg as ''the most remarkable assassination coincidence in the history of this country.''
His concerns were not answered during three years of probing into the strange circumstances surrounding the 1981 shooting of Reagan by John Hinckley Jr.

In his self-published novel, ''The Afternoon of March 30,'' Blumberg blends fact and fiction in looking at the unreported ''connections'' between Hinckley's family and that of Vice President George Bush, the man who came within a heartbeat of the presidency of the United States.

''What I'm really after is the case to be officially reopened,'' said the Rhodes scholar and former dean of the University of Montana journalism school. ''If they can answer all the questions satisfactorily, I'll be delighted,'' he said in an interview. ''In truth, I don't think all the questions can be answered without opening up a whole new can of worms.''

Blumberg's unease is now focused on the indifference shown to what he calls ''the story behind the story.''

Bush, he said, has questions to answer in connection with the attempt. So do the FBI and the judge who presided over Hinckley's trial, according to Blumberg.

''I'm not saying there was a conspiracy to assassinate Reagan,'' Blumberg emphasized. ''I'm saying there was a conspiracy to keep significant information from the public that it has a right to know.''

Blumberg asks his readers to consider his contentions that:

-- Hinckley's brother was scheduled to have supper with Bush's son the day after the assassination attempt, which struck Blumberg as ''the most remarkable assassination coincidence in the history of this country.''

-- The friendship between the Hinckley and Bush families goes back more than a decade to their shared conquest of the oilfields of Texas.

-- The Hinckley oil company was warned, just hours before the shooting, that it faced a $2-million fine for overpricing oil. The possible charges were never mentioned after Hinckley's attempt.

-- The widely accepted official story that Hinckley was trying to get the attention of actress Jodie Foster was based entirely on a letter that Hinckley was said to have written, but which the public and the media never saw.

Blumberg's book attempts to documents those assertions and blasts the nation's journalists for sloth and neglect. He said journalists were fed a barely believable story full of inconsistencies.

''And the press had submitted to this in a way I find unprecedented,'' he said.

But Blumberg, a long-time media critic, decided the example warranted more than a critique of press performance in a crisis. Such efforts, he said, usually ''go out there and die.''

Instead, he chose to weave his questions into a novel so it would reach a broader audience and allow him to probe problems in society and corruption in government, as well as maladies of the U.S. press.

The book chronicles the adventures of a fictitious Montana newsman who follows the information trail deserted by the national media.

His documentation is put in the form of an article the fictitious hero is writing.

The professor was living in semi-retirement at his home on the shores of Flathead Lake, near Bigfork, Mont., when he was jarred by a newscast that mentioned the planned supper between Scott Hinckley and Neil Bush.

That sparked an intense interest which has grown into an admitted obsession with the assassination attempt.

''So I began looking into it and checking all the papers and right away all sorts of things began cropping up,'' he said.

The press, according to Blumberg, underreported anything but the official story of the assassination.

He looks skeptically at the theory that Hinckley shot Reagan to impress Foster, who starred in a movie revolving around a similar plot - ''Taxi Driver.''

The novel has been criticized for Blumberg's inexperienced prose style, but praised for its research. However, he has been stung by suggestions that he is crazy or a ''conspiracy nut.''

Blumberg published the book on his own Wood Fire Ashes press to ''retain total control over the quality.''

''Have you ever heard an author say what a great job his publisher did with a book?'' he asks. But, without a commercial advertising campaign, he's had to market the book in an ''organic, straightforward fashion.''

Blumberg says he mails out several copies of the novel each week and expects it to ''stay alive as long as people continue to care about justice.''


1 Posted on 11/29/1999 17:58:33 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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To: Wallaby

This is like the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon game, right?

2 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:02:47 PST by Jeter
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To: Jeter

Of course, this will get more media coverage than Clinton's R&R in Moscow ever did...

3 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:06:59 PST by Fintan
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To: Wallaby

What trash, "he was a date of a girl..." . The smearing here is disgusting. I get really sick of some of you wacko's

4 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:08:35 PST by learner
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To: Jeter

Six degrees? It would not be a surprising coincidence were I to know someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows you.

5 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:09:04 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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To: Wallaby

How about walking me thru this just a little?

6 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:11:13 PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Wallaby

Un F***ing believable! You guys are getting so desperate, your starting to look like candidates for the looney bin.

7 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:11:19 PST by marty60
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To: Doctor Raoul

>How about walking me thru this just a little?

Sure thing, Dr R.

Author Blumberg does a nice job of summarizing the key points in the last article of the thread, so I'll just quote him:

''I'm not saying there was a conspiracy to assassinate Reagan,'' Blumberg emphasized. ''I'm saying there was a conspiracy to keep significant information from the public that it has a right to know.''

Blumberg asks his readers to consider his contentions that:

-- Hinckley's brother was scheduled to have supper with Bush's son the day after the assassination attempt, which struck Blumberg as ''the most remarkable assassination coincidence in the history of this country.''

-- The friendship between the Hinckley and Bush families goes back more than a decade to their shared conquest of the oilfields of Texas.

-- The Hinckley oil company was warned, just hours before the shooting, that it faced a $2-million fine for overpricing oil. The possible charges were never mentioned after Hinckley's attempt.

-- The widely accepted official story that Hinckley was trying to get the attention of actress Jodie Foster was based entirely on a letter that Hinckley was said to have written, but which the public and the media never saw.

Blumberg's book attempts to documents those assertions and blasts the nation's journalists for sloth and neglect.

8 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:16:47 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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To: Wallaby

-- The widely accepted official story that Hinckley was trying to get the attention of actress Jodie Foster was based entirely on a letter that Hinckley was said to have written, but which the public and the media never saw.

I fell for that story as the motive, back when I was a young trooper stationed in Germany.

Man oh man, Wallaby. Look at what you've done. You've opened the flood gates!

9 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:19:56 PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Wallaby

"What I'm really after is the case to be officially reopened,'' said the Rhodes scholar and former dean of the University of Montana journalism school.

Probably a Mason too.
"Next!"

10 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:24:22 PST by eddie willers
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To: Wallaby

When Carl Rowan and the likes of you start attacking GWB, it makes me feel warm and comfy all over!

11 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:25:10 PST by Loren from Pikes Peak (What did you expect @ thIs White House which is a criminal enterprise?)
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To: Loren from Pikes Peak

Don't insult Wallaby. He's just the messenger. And he didn't mention GWB, you did!

12 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:29:53 PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz

It would have taken a lot more than Presidential assassination to get Jodie to give him a second glance, from what I've heard.

13 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:30:01 PST by x
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To: Loren from Pikes Peak

I know at least ten people who knew Ronald Reagan and could get an appointment with him. Could I have gotten an appointment with him? Not in a million years! Same with the Pope. Same with George Bush. Do I consider myself "connected" with these people? Not a bit.

14 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:30:02 PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Wallaby

Man this is big news I wonder what if anything it has to do with GW Bush? Are we all supposed to know who our brothers know and what impact,if any it will have 19 years later.

What next an interview with the Bush family plumber to see what was pulled out the sewer lines during the past 20 years?

15 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:36:31 PST by Big Ezy
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To: Wallaby

Neil Bush's conduct in connection with the Silverado bank presumably shows that he is somewhat lacking in moral standards. What, by the way, is the chronology of his connection with Silverado.

People here may be interested in this other thread, A CIA AGENT TALKS: Cocaine, assassinations, NWO, Bush, Clinton (Part V) , in which the CIA veteran Gene "Chip" Tatum and his interviewer, the FBI veteran Ted Gunderson, claim that, by the time of National Security Decision Directive 3, issued sometime in 1981, George Bush, Sr. was running the country.

16 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:38:51 PST by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: Big Ezy

Pardon my ignorance, but this is news to me. Since this news is prior to CNN, I don't know how to interpret it.

You know what they say about coincidences, don't you?

17 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:40:05 PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Wallaby

What subsequently became of the Hinckley oil company?

Do you have any info, Wallaby, on the story about how Nancy Reagan purportedly saved her husband's life by bypassing the surgical team and the hospital where he was taken and bringing in her own team of surgeons which, I believe, included at least one of her relatives? I wonder if this anecdote can be verified or rejected as just another 'urban legend'...

18 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:40:46 PST by slym
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To: Arthur McGowan

Sounds like Klintoon's butt-boys, Car-vile, Terry and IGI, have been at work again...anyone check Hustler's petty cash funds for unusual expenditures lately?

19 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:46:33 PST by Ryman
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To: Wallaby

And, your point is?

20 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:46:34 PST by Eva
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To: aristeides

IF YOUR BROTHER IS A MURDERER DOES THAT MAKE YOU ONE? YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR BROTHERS ACTIONS.

21 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:47:55 PST by Katie2
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To: Wallaby

Dang, Wallaby! You go and post some newspaper articles and suddenly you're Thyphoid Mary (or CholeraJoe;-).You REALLY stepped on some lips here!

Let's see now, you're accused of shooting Reagan, Right?

Well, something JUST as bad. You posted articles that raise questions in a reasonable persons mind about the Paragon of all Dynasties, the BUSH FAMILY .

22 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:50:46 PST by NDCORUP
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To: Big Ezy

CARTER'S BROTHER WAS A DISGRACE AND CINTON'S BROTHER IS A CONVICTED DOPE DEALER AND HIS SISTER IS A CONVICTED BANK ROBBER AND NO ONE HELD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

23 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:52:07 PST by Katie2
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To: Big Ezy

From time to time, the dogs are unleashed on President George Bush, and his family, on FR, and there is no shortage of strays who'll join the hunt.

Bush pushed drugs, Bush did drugs, Bush tried to have Reagan killed, Bush got Clinton in the White House, Bush's sons are ripping off the taxpayers, Bush's dad and uncle are criminals, Bush ran the CIA therefore he must be a clandestine traitor...

JimRob is right to weed this garden, from time to time. He ought to weed it more.

24 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:52:46 PST by sinkspur
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To: Wallaby

At the time, I was officing in a converted house on McKinney Avenue in Dallas.

Within sixty minutes of the assasination attempt, there was an FBI guy in the lobby. Seems that Hinckley had once listed this particular house as a residence...

The FBI can sure move quickly...when it wants to.

But does this coincidence mean that I was colluding with Hinckley? Or the Bushes?

25 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:54:25 PST by okie01
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To: Fred Mertz

>based entirely on a letter that Hinckley was said to have written, but which the public and the media never saw.

I haven't found any story saying that Hinckley's letters or tapes have ever been released. I'd be interested if anyone knows if they have. Here's a story from '88 in which apparently at least one prosecutor found it peculiar that the evidence was still under seal at that point:


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Hinckley Letters in Legal Wrangle; Prosecutors Want Mail-Order Correspondence Made Public
Lee Hockstader, Washington Post Staff Writer
The Washington Post; METRO; PAGE C3
August 26, 1988, Friday, Final Edition


In the aftermath of an aborted proposal by St. Elizabeths Hospital to permit presidential assailant John W. Hinckley Jr. a one-day "therapeutic field trip," prosecutors and Hinckley's attorney are arguing about whether to make public Hinckley's private correspondence.


Privately, sources expressed some surprise that the correspondence had not already found its way into news reports.
That correspondence includes Hinckley's letter to a mail-order firm seeking a sketch or photograph of the actress Jodie Foster in the nude, a source close to the case said. According to one account, Hinckley received such a drawing.

Hinckley's attempt on President Reagan's life on March 30, 1981, was said to be an effort to impress Foster, with whom he was obsessed after seeing her portray a prostitute in the movie "Taxi Driver."

Prosecutors submitted the correspondence under seal to a federal court judge here two weeks ago, the night before a scheduled hearing to determine whether Hinckley should be allowed out for the day trip, which would have been supervised by hospital officials.

At the hearing before U.S. District Judge Barrington Parker, St. Elizabeths officials abruptly withdrew their proposal after learning that the Secret Service had uncovered unspecified new writings by Hinckley. Sources identified these writings as Hinckley's request for Foster's picture.

Jay B. Stephens, U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, said he expected the Hinckley correspondence to be made public at that point. But Hinckley's attorney, Vincent J. Fuller, asked that the documents remain under seal.

In papers filed this week, prosecutors argued that "whatever minimal privacy interest Mr. Hinckley may have in the materials at issue . . . is plainly overcome by the strong public interest in open judicial proceedings and in understanding the reasons for the hospital's withdrawal of its request" to allow the field trip.

Prosecutors argued that the writings were in the hands of a "third party" who provided them to the Secret Service -- which sources suggested was the mail-order firm. The "third party," prosecutors said, was free to make them public whenever he saw fit.

Privately, sources expressed some surprise that the correspondence had not already found its way into news reports.

Fuller, Hinckley's attorney, has argued that there is no need to give the public access to his client's correspondence, which he said is protected by Hinckley's privacy and property rights. "By disclosing the sealed documents now, the government hopes to inflame the public passion against Mr. Hinckley," Fuller said in pleadings submitted to Parker.

Hinckley, who was committed indefinitely to St. Elizabeths after he was acquitted of Reagan's shooting on grounds of insanity, was prevented from leaving the hospital to visit his parents last year when hospital officials found photos of Foster in his room.

Hinckley's room was searched after a psychiatrist testified that he had written to Theodore Bundy, a multiple murderer now on Florida's death row.

26 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:54:26 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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To: Wallaby

Bmp.

27 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:54:37 PST by metalbird1
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To: wallaby

Unadulterated crapola!

28 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:55:38 PST by excelsior (xxx)
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To: Wallaby

Where does Jody Foster fit into all this?

29 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:56:30 PST by Howlin (lweaton@hotmail.com)
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To: Eva

>And, your point is?

See my reply to Doctor Raoul here

30 Posted on 11/29/1999 18:59:47 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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To: slym

Don't forget Brady (as in the Brady bill) got to the hospital before Reagan did-The SS said that they "got lost" on the way.

31 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:02:16 PST by HOLA
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To: all

So the Bushs had RR shot? Were they on their way to the weekly coke run? Did Barbara toss the leg of the small child she was eating into the air when she heard that their good friends had come through for them and shout Yippie! ? Ill bet she did...those Bushes ....you know they all have shifty eyes....and I hear they went to Ivy league schools and you know what that means....wink,wink

32 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:05:14 PST by woofie
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To: HOLA

I had never heard that Brady/SS tidbit before...

Took the ambulance drivers one heck of a long time to get Princess Diana to the hospital too... [Just a passing thought - - no "coinkydink" intended.]

33 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:08:07 PST by slym
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To: HOLA

I had never heard that Brady/SS tidbit before...

Took the ambulance drivers one heck of a long time to get Princess Diana to the hospital too... [Just a passing thought - - no "coinkydink" intended.]

34 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:08:08 PST by slym
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To: HOLA

I had never heard that Brady/SS tidbit before...

Took the ambulance drivers one heck of a long time to get Princess Diana to the hospital too... [Just a passing thought - - no "coinkydink" intended.]

35 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:08:09 PST by slym
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To: Katie2

If Neil was responsible and the rest of the family was not, it seems to me they had a responsibility to turn him in.

I don't believe that about all crimes, but this one, if true, would really have been reprehensible.

36 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:10:12 PST by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: Wallaby

The spin of your little summary seems to be that George Bush senior and son Neil were conspiring with the Hinckleys to have Reagan killed so that Bush could become president. Of all the nutso threads that have been started around here, this surely is the nuttiest, and there was certainly very stiff competition.

37 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:11:37 PST by Torie
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To: Wallaby

many will accuse you of posting this to discredit w.

i remember the houston post stories immediately after the attempted assassination. serious questions remain unanswered, and like the jfk assassination, will probably never be answered.

it is a curious thing that many of the supposed assassins appear to have been brainwashed and manifest multiple personality disorder: the assassins and attemped assassins of jfk, rfk, john lennon, and ronald reagan and others.

read fenton bresler's "who killed john lennon?" before you laugh at this post. it includes information on the rfk assassin. there are only two places that they want these assassins: dead or locked away in loony bins for the rest of their lives, so that competent psychiatrists cannot examine them.

38 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:18:08 PST by ken21
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To: sinkspur

What the heck are you talking about?? =JimRob= believes there is a connection between Bush and cocaine running. Where's he gonna start "weeding"?

39 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:18:17 PST by Solaris
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To: Torie

You can thank AP, UPI, and The Washington Post for this posting.

40 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:19:25 PST by Fred Mertz
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To: sinkspur

"weed the garden"

A lot of wierd threads have appeared in the last two days. Maybe some are just getting in thier last shot. Then again maybe some or just testing the waters.

Wednesday should be a very interesting day as Jim starts pulling those weeds out his garden.

41 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:22:37 PST by Big Ezy
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To: ken21

In case you missed this thread --- More .

42 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:25:08 PST by NDCORUP
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To: Howlin

Jodie, doesn't fit with any man except in the movies and Hinkley fantasies. I worked with one of Truman's drinking buddies, but I didn't drop the A-bomb, honest.

This is all old news.

43 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:27:26 PST by KC Burke (UHaulNeeded@White.House)
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To: NDCORUP

thanks for the link.

i've read john decamp's book. and i have personal experience while working in the field of psychology that the government is involved in this. innocent therapists that stumble upon these people are often attacked by the media, the cia, and their henchmen.

44 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:28:48 PST by ken21
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To: aristeides, slym, okie01, Fred Mertz, NDCORUP, bondhue1, metalbird1

Not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion.

Government retaliating against Hinckley's father?
United Press International
Regional News
July 13, 1982, Tuesday, AM cycle

DENVER
A proposed government settlement of alleged overcharges by a Denver-based energy company for stripper well oil might be in retaliation for the verdict in the trial of John Hinckley Jr., a son of the firm's founder, the Denver Post reported Tuesday.


''On March 30, 1981 (the day of the Reagan shooting), while the audit was still in progress, information was leaked to the press by a government official claiming Vanderbilt had overcharged purchasers by approximately $2 million.''
Hinckley, son of Vanderbilt Energy Corp., founder Jack W. Hinckley, was found not guilty by reason of insanity June 21 in the March 1981 shootings of President Reagan and three other men.

Vanderbilt announced Monday that it had received a proposed remedial order calling for a $790,241 settlement from the Department of Energy after an audit of the stripper well sales.

A stripper well is one that produces fewer than 10 barrels of oil per day.

The Post quoted a source, who asked not to be identified, as saying ''it could be one inference that could be drawn from the facts'' when asked if an audit of the company might have been protracted because of the assassination attempt.

''Another inference is that it's in retaliation for an unpopular jury verdict,'' the source said.

In an official statement, Vanderbilt said the ''routine audit'' of the stripper well properties was begun by DOE in February 1981.

''On March 30, 1981 (the day of the Reagan shooting), while the audit was still in progress, information was leaked to the press by a government official claiming Vanderbilt had overcharged purchasers by approxiamately $2 million.''

James Dodd, an Enid, Okla., lawyer representing Vanderbilt, who said he had visited ''ever one of the wells,'' aid the government's overcharge allegations were completely ''fraudlent.''

He vowed to fight ''tooth and nail'' the settlement of the alleged overcharges.

The Vanderbilt statement noted that ''as a result of additional audit work by the DOE and meeting with advisers retained by Vanderbilt, the alleged overcharges were first reduced to $1.4 million and a few days later to $800,00.''

Vanderbilt received the proposed settlement ''claiming that overcharges on the sale of crude oil at stripper prices are now $509,404, plus interest due of $280,347.''

The company said the ''alleged violations stem from differing interpretations made by Vanderbilt and the DOE of the extremely complex regulations governing such matter.''

Vanderbilt said it used an ''officially prescribed method'' in pricing the oil, but ''the DOE maintains it is not the preferred one.''

45 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:31:02 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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To: NDCORUP

So Hinkley and Bush killed Kennedy. It all makes sense now!

46 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:32:22 PST by jerod
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To: KC Burke

I was just joshing.

47 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:34:07 PST by Howlin (lweaton@hotmail.com)
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To: KC Burke

I was just joshing.

48 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:34:16 PST by Howlin (lweaton@hotmail.com)
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To: Torie

"Of all the nutso threads that have been started around here, this surely is the nuttiest, and there was certainly very stiff competition."

It's enlightening that Wallaby has posted a series of published newspaper articles from the past that deal with the persons peripherial to an attempt to assassinate Reagan, and HE is accused of something sinister.

The mere mention of the name Bush has a serious, mind clouding polarization capability unlike even the topic of Slick and his adventures. Why is it that a political dynasty like the bush family is so protected? Reminds me of the Kennedy's from years gone by :-)

49 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:35:03 PST by NDCORUP
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To: jerod

"So Hinkley and Bush killed Kennedy. It all makes sense now!"

No, I think Hinkley might have been too young. Now Bush.....

50 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:41:17 PST by NDCORUP
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To: NDCORUP

I referred to his summary. And no, I don't think the guy is "sinister", just a nut, or at least affecting a darn good imitation of one.

51 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:42:37 PST by Torie
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To: Wallaby

Usually someone named Lulu posts this bullshit, but she always says that GW and Jeb had dinner with the Hinkley parents at a restaurant the night before the assassination attempt. This seems to be a new version.

So, you're trying to say, with your very subtle teal high-light, that the Bush family tried to kill President Reagan, right?

Where have you been for the last 15 years?

52 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:43:23 PST by Deb
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To: Wallaby

I still don't get the point. As I recall, Hinckley's dad worked for an oil company, he didn't own one. And the fact that the Bushes and the Hinkleys both were involved with oil companies is not much of a coincidence in Texas. The Hinkleys were well off and contributed to the Bush campaigns, not really surprising, either. The fact that one of the Hinckley sons ran in the same social circuit as Neil Bush's wife should not be that surprising either. So, that leaves us with one normal son and one crazy son, big deal.

53 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:45:11 PST by Eva
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To: Wallaby

I really strongly dislike Shrub who is indeed a dud, but this thread makes him smell like a rose in comparison. This isn't even mediocre circumstancial evidence of anything.

So tell the truth, you are generating sympathy for him, aren't you? ;-)

54 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:48:36 PST by ferret
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To: Fred Mertz

Sorry, you'll have to blame the Jodie Foster connection on Ms. Foster herself. She has the letters, she has the proof and she's the one who won't discuss Hinkley because...as she has stated a million times...she doesn't want to encourage any other whackos or get Hinkley going again by thinking she knows he's alive.

55 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:49:47 PST by Deb
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To: Wallaby

Shame on you, Wallaby. You've gone and posted AP and UPI articles that Deb doesn't like to read! Next time check in with her first, please?

56 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:55:17 PST by bondhue1
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To: NDCORUP

MOst of us here probably agreed that there is some strange crap passed around regarding the attempt on Ronaldus Magnus. However, these 10+ year old articles are merely interesting reading such as Batboy stories with about the same amount of importance and truth as them.

I remember this when it came out but it never seemed to pan out. I am still waiting a live interview with Batboy too.

Then there was also an attempt to link Hinckley's dad because of his Christian connections. Pretty pathetic.

57 Posted on 11/29/1999 19:56:03 PST by aka
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