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ATTENTION BILL O'REILLY! clinton/Williams Paternity Test Worthless

Crime/Corruption Announcement Keywords: DEADBEAT DAD, DANNY'S DADDY, SERIAL RAPIST, DNA HOAXES
Published: 1.5.00 Author: Mia T
Posted on 01/05/2000 07:07:45 PST by Mia T

01-05-00
ATTENTION BILL O'REILLY! 
 
 
Curioli suggested that presenting a "protected sequence"; i.e., an
altered version of actual DNA information, is commonplace in the fields
of genetic and virological research as a matter of industrial security.
In a president's case, the need for DNA confidentiality could be more
pressing.
 
The Secret Service seems acutely aware of this need. When the President
took a few sips of beer during a photo-op at a pub in Manchester,
England in 1997, Mr. Clinton's security detail wasted little time
confiscating his glass as he departed. Reportedly, the Secret Service
smashed the glass and were concerned that Clinton's fingerprints and DNA
could fall into the wrong hands.
Clinton Paternity 'Test' Called into Question
Carl Limbacher, January 18, 1999
 
There is NO way the FBI would have released the sexual predator's UNALTERED presidential DNA sequence into the public domain.
 
Thus, the Star-Magazine-financed paternity test proved ABSOLUTELY NOTHING -- ZERO -- about the paternity of Danny Williams.
 
On the other hand, Stephanopoulos' '92 reaction, Clinton's non-reaction, Clinton's lifelong history of sexual predation and Clinton's generalized, effortless exploitation of the weak and vulnerable, including blacks--especially blacks! strongly suggest clinton paternity of Danny Williams.
 
I have a suggestion.
 
It would be simple for an enterprising media type or politico or even some anonymous, hand-shaking voter to swipe some of the errant mutant's errant cells.
 
I mean, the Secret Service cannot possibly protect each and every one of the zillions of cells constantly being sloughed off by the lizard. A few strands of his steely Brilloed follicles would do...as would a sampling of the lizard's shedding scales. Doublestick tape strategically placed would accomplish the mission discreetly and efficaciously.

1 Posted on 01/05/2000 07:07:45 PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T

Who has the blue dress?

2 Posted on 01/05/2000 07:22:33 PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Mia T

I wonder if there are any DNA experts here on FR that could devise a plan or method to extract samples worthy of a reliable test. Then we need to contact the person(s) who have a sample of Danny William's DNA -

Can anyone out there give an opinion or assist on this matter? Who was the journalist from Star or Globe that was persuing this? Maybe we can get a team effort going here....

3 Posted on 01/05/2000 07:27:25 PST by M. Peach
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To: Blood of Tyrants

My understanding is that the DNA has been removed from the dress. Starr and his group obviously would not release the real DNA sample......

4 Posted on 01/05/2000 07:30:22 PST by M. Peach
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To: Mia T

Just how does the "Lizard" {that's precious, MiaT!!} do it?

Time after time after time, this miscreant has LIED, decieved, perjured, probably murdered while ALL manner of demonic-like *servant* steps-up to the plate; covering FOR this creature?? How? Why? What EVIL does the piece of excrement weild; I'll never, ever know.

NOTHING could justify the kind of blind-eye that's been directed towards the many indiscretions, violations, sins we've been FORCED to witness. Nothing.

Don't EVEN let the *media* point an accusing finger at the next one occupying OUR House...for ANYthing whatsoever.

I don't care WHAT the accusation.

May He damn 'em all.

5 Posted on 01/05/2000 07:40:25 PST by Landru
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To: ATTENTION! BILL O'REILLY

DOUBLE- HELIX

HOAXES

Star-Magazine-financed paternity test worthless
 
 
Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of Clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with
constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson, posthumously misappropriated.

--Mia T, THE OTHER NIXON

 

JEFFERSON PATERNITY:

DOUBLE HELIX HOAX?
 
11/2/98
 
by Mia T
 
DNA, the acronym for
the double helix tongue twister
deoxyribonucleic acid,
became the Scotch Tape of forensic identification
during the sanguinary OJ Era.
 
Now that we are sloshing through the Semen Age of Clinton,
DNA analysis has again resurfaced as a tool of lawyers
and the sociopaths they defend.
 
When the lay public hears "DNA match,"
it reflexively thinks "certain identity,"
not understanding that results are expressed
in terms of a probability of chance occurrence.
 
Nonetheless, it would not be an overstatement to say
that Kenneth Starr established conclusively
that the semen on Monica's navy blue Gap dress was clinton's.
 
RFLP analysis of clinton's DNA determined
that the frequency of the matching genetic markers
extracted from the presidential fluids
is characteristic of one out of 7.87 trillion Caucasians.
 
The world population is only around 5 or so billion.
So, statistically speaking,
you would have to search outer space to find another match.
Maybe clinton lackey Glenn will find it...
 
Similarly, the blood matches to OJ Simpson's DNA
(RFLP, Cellmark)
yielded probabilities as rare as 1 in 150 billion,
and again, virtual identity.
 
Which brings me to the DNA analysis
that purports to answer the long-standing historical controversy:
Did Thomas Jefferson father the children of Sally Hemings?
 
In my opinion, this study is junk science.
Identification is more apparent than real.
The methodology is, at best, vaguely described and/or sloppy,
and at worst, a fraud (possibly concocted by a clinton/Carville cabal
together with those 400 hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,
retrograde-obsessing historiographers.
It is illuminating in this regard that for the past week
Carville had been shopping the story to the press
and one of the hog-and-bow-tied 400 was an author of the study).
 
The goal, according to the authors of the study, Eugene A. Foster, et al.,
was "to throw some scientific light on the dispute." (1)
An odd way of putting it...a goal not of scientific precision but of scientific aura.
 
And the result of the analysis is hardly the incontrovertible paternity
currently being fed to an unwitting press and a nonplussed public.
 
The theory of the study
 
Because, apart from occasional mutations,
the Y chromosome is passed unchanged from father to son,
DNA analysis of the Y chromosome can reveal
whether or not individuals are likely to be male-line relatives.
 
The study analyzed DNA from the Y chromosomes of: "five male-line
descendants of two sons of the president's paternal uncle, Field
Jefferson; five male-line descendants of two sons of Thomas Woodson; one
male-line descendant of Eston Hemings Jefferson; and three male-line
descendants of three sons of John Carr, grandfather of Samuel and Peter
Carr. No Y-chromosome data were available from male-line
descendants of President Thomas Jefferson because he had no surviving
sons."
 
With all the spinning bi-allelic markers, microsatellites,
mini-satellites, haplotypes at various and sundry loci,
with even the "rare" haplotype that
"has never been observed outside the Jefferson family,
and has not been found in 670 European men (more than 1,200 worldwide)
typed with the microsatellites or 308 European men (690 worldwide)"(2)
we are left with the following result buried amid
the semblance of rarity and exactitude:
 
"The simplest and most probable explanations for our molecular findings
are that Thomas Jefferson, rather than one of the Carr brothers, was the
father of Eston Hemings Jefferson, and that Thomas Woodson was not
Thomas Jefferson's son. The frequency of the Jefferson haplotype is less
than 0.1 per cent, so our molecular evidence is at least 100 times more
likely if the president was the father of Eston Hemings Jefferson than
if someone unrelated was the father.
 
We cannot completely rule out other explanations of our findings based
on illegitimacy in various lines of descent. For example, a male-line
descendant of Field Jefferson could possibly have illegitimately
fathered an ancestor of the presumed male-line descendant of Eston. But
in the absence of historical evidence to support such possibilities, we
consider them to be unlikely."(3)
 
One in 100 is hardly the clinton semen DNA result of 1 in 7.87 trillion
or even the OJ blood DNA result of 1 in 150 billion.
One in 100 is meaningful only in its
non-elimination of Jefferson as the father of Eston Hemings Jefferson.
And even that modest conclusion assumes an unbroken line of male-line descendants, tenuous in a culture notorious for uncertain paternity.
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1. Eugene A. Foster, et al.; Nature; 5 November 1998
 
2. Ibid.
 
3. Ibid.>>
 
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JEFFERSON DNA ANALYSIS REVEALED A DIRTY LITTLE SECRET...
 
by Mia T
 
The Jefferson DNA analysis revealed a dirty little secret.
And it has nothing to do with Jefferson.
The so-called literati are scientific illiterates.
 
Since this story hit the wires,
that crowd, barely able to contain its glee,
has been making much ado about nothing conclusive...
 
The Jefferson DNA analysis is not definitive.
Far from it.
At best, it merely fails to exclude the possibility
that one Hemings child, Eston Hemings Jefferson, was fathered by Jefferson.
The probability of a chance occurrence of this result is 1 in 100.
 
Said another way,
the DNA of one out of every one hundred males
randomly plucked from the general population
would be consistent with paternity.
 
Not very compelling proof of Jefferson's paternity.
 
Yet a clueless press is buying the spin from the
clinton/Carville inspired
400 hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,
retrograde-obsessing historiographers.
 
Cinder Stanton, a Jefferson scholar at
the Monticello International Center,
when asked today (Washington Journal, C-SPAN)
whether she believed the DNA "study" was politically motivated,
noted that the publication date of the 5 November Nature article
was pushed forward
[to a pre-election release by forces unknown, I would add].
 
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McLAUGHLIN: JEFFERSON PATERNITY HUMBUG
 
by Mia T
 
John McLaughlin (PBS) today hosted
a very interesting discussion on the Jefferson-DNA study
that included the study's Oxford-based author.
 
McLaughlin, schooled in jesuitical reasoning,
is not one to miss an obvious fraud.
McLaughlin's thesis was the one I proffered the other day, namely:
The so-called DNA analysis did not prove Thomas Jefferson paternity.
Indeed, McLaughlin confirmed with the FBI
that this putative proof of paternity would never hold up in court.
 
In fact, the more honest conclusion would have not named
Thomas Jefferson as the starting point in the so-called unbroken sequence.
The putative unbroken male-line of descent was not from Thomas
but from Thomas' uncle, Field Jefferson.
To conclude Thomas Jefferson paternity assumes, among other things,
that Field and Thomas' father, Peter had the same father,
and that there were unbroken lines of male-line descendants
in both the Hemings and Jefferson lineage,
a tenuous assumption in a culture notorious for uncertain paternity.
 
Moreover, Thomas' brother, Randolph had six sons,
and Uncle Field Jefferson son(s) produced 11 males.
All Sally Hemings' contemporaries,
the 17 sons plus their daddies often romped round Monticello
with their "rare" Jeffersonian Y chromosome haplotype
intact and ready for action (assuming, of course, their own legitimacy).
And let us not forget those
1 in 100 random males in the purlieus of Monticello
with that very same haplotype.
 
Yet, given all this, the science-illiterate literati
are now claiming that the study proved Thomas Jefferson paternity.
They are either ignorant fools or are assuming that that we are...
 
Is this another clinton scam being perpetrated on the world?
Clinton has destroyed our society,
subverted the Constitution,
destabilized the tripartite balance of power,
imperiled the national security,
rewritten history--revising presidential reputations downward to meet his pitiful one.
 
And now clinton is infecting science with his insidious brand of fraud.
All this destruction just to save his own sorry fat butt.
How sad.
 
 
PATERNITY HYPE VISITS MONTICELLO
 
 
The Washington Post
 
 
November 15, 1998 David Murray
 
 
 
It was, without doubt, the most heavily covered
science story of the year: Researchers found a genetic
match between Thomas Jefferson's family line and a
distant descendant of the last-born son of one of his
slaves, Sally Hemings. More than 295 editorial and
news citations have appeared in the Nexis database
so far, along with eight pieces in the news weeklies
and 31 broadcast transcripts, all based on the
disclosure of the findings in the Nov. 5 issue of the
science journal Nature, which was released at the end
of October.
 
Much of the coverage demonstrated a remarkable
flight from careful and skeptical reporting. All too
often, the news stories, commentary and analysis
transformed an intriguing but inconclusive scientific
finding into a dead certainty. Several journalists went
on to turn the DNA results into some sort of
referendum on the current state of race relations and
presidential politics.
 
Some outlets broke the news with appropriate
qualifiers: "DNA Test Finds Evidence of Jefferson
Child by Slave," wrote the New York Times; "Tests
Link Jefferson, Slave's Son; DNA Study Suggests a
Monticello Liaison," said The Washington Post.
 
But many accounts contained strong assertions that
paternity had been "proven," "conclusively
demonstrated" or "resolved." Examples include:
 
• "DNA Link; Paternity Proved," the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot;
 
• "Adulterer on Mt. Rushmore," the Des Moines Register, including the charge of "statutory rape"; and
 
•"A boost for President Clinton in fighting impeachment . . . evidence proves Jefferson fathered at least one child by his slave," CNN.
 
 
 
National Public Radio's Nov. 1 account was typical.
Correspondent Daniel Zwerdling announced: "The 
proof is finally in. The president not only did have an
illicit sexual affair, he fathered at least one child with
his lover . . . DNA testing has ended [that] debate."
U.S. News & World Report even ran a genealogical 
chart that showed a direct line between Jefferson and 
the modern descendant of Eston Hemings.
 
What the Nature article did by reporting a link
between the Jefferson family and kin of Eston 
Hemings was to add enticing new evidence to a
long-running historical debate. Before those findings, 
historians could only point to circumstantial evidence 
implicating Thomas Jefferson rather than one of his
male-line relatives. The new DNA match with one
descendant strengthens that circumstantial evidence.
With these findings the balance shifts, suspicions 
become probabilities. 
 
But certainty still eludes us. 
 
The best characterization of what has--and has
not--been "proven" by the combination of
circumstantial historical evidence and the DNA
findings is found in the original Nature report,
co-authored by retired pathologist Eugene Foster:
 
"The simplest and most probable explanation for our 
molecular findings are that Thomas Jefferson, rather
than one of the Carr brothers [sons of Jefferson's
sister, not paternal-line carriers], was the father of
Eston Hemings . . . . We cannot completely rule out
other explanations of our findings based on
illegitimacy in various lines of descent."
 
After the hyperbolic coverage began flourishing,
Foster wrote a letter to the New York Times calling it 
"regrettable that [our] statement has been transmuted 
into assertions that all doubt had been removed." The
Nov. 9 letter also said, "The genetic findings my
collaborators and I reported . . . do not prove that
Thomas Jefferson was the father of one of Sally 
Hemings's children. We never made that claim. Nor
do we believe that the Y-chromosome type we found
in Hemings's descendant occurs only in the members
of the Jefferson family . . . . this study could not
prove anything conclusively . . . . "
 
The original Nature article contained ample warning 
signs. The Jefferson case, the magazine pointed out, 
has always depended on the oral history of putative 
descendants and charges first lodged by political 
opponents in 1802 that Jefferson fathered the
first-born son of Hemings, Thomas Woodson.
 
Descendants of Woodson were shown in the Nature 
research to have no DNA match with Jefferson. 
Undaunted, U.S. News suggested that Jefferson might 
indeed be the father of Woodson, the DNA evidence
having been lost through subsequent illegitimacy in
the Woodson line. Jefferson defenders have used that
same line of reasoning to explain away the presence 
of a Thomas Jefferson DNA match in the case of
Eston Hemings. An additional qualifier is that
Thomas Jefferson was 65 years old and Sally 
Hemings 37, rather than the 14-year-old ingenue of
folklore, in the year that Eston was born.
 
Thomas Jefferson himself was not tested, only 
descendants of his paternal uncle, Field Jefferson.
This fact troubles some forensic geneticists working 
professionally in DNA paternity cases.
 
What did the DNA match positively establish? The
findings show a probability that the DNA of Eston
shows a descent from some male in the Jefferson 
paternal line, rather than being a randomly occurring
match from someone in the general population, which 
is put at a 100-to-1 chance. A simple analogy would 
be recovering from a victim a bullet that has 
distinctive rifle-barrel markings enabling it to be
traced. The research has shown that said rifle was
owned by males of the Jefferson family. But who 
pulled the trigger?
 
The story broke the weekend before Election Day, 
and political as well as competitive forces appeared 
to drive the timing. Nature's editors typically give 
reporters a few days' advance notice on research
reports that appear in the magazine, though stories
about those reports are normally embargoed until the 
date of the magazine's publication--in this instance,
Thursday, Nov. 5. But, under pressure from news
outlets that heard rumors of the findings and feared 
getting scooped, Nature agreed to the early release 
date of Friday, Oct. 30. That allowed the weekend 
papers and the Monday editions of the news weeklies
to cover the controversy.
 
Accompanying the findings in Nature was a 
commentary by Joseph Ellis of Mount Holyoke
College in Massachusetts, explicitly comparing the
alleged actions of Jefferson to those of the current
president. Some critics questioned the timing of the
Nature publication. "Just two days before the 
election, the (DNA) story gave the everybody-does-it
line both pedigree and prestige," wrote columnist
Charles Krauthammer. "Accident? Two days before
that, a full-page ad appeared in the New York Times
opposing Clinton's impeachment. Among the signers:
the co-author of the article [Ellis] in Nature
pronouncing the DNA data definitive, in which he
noted wryly the Hemings report's 'impeccable timing.'"
 
Foster, too, was troubled by the Nature commentary.
He told the Washington Times on Nov. 10, "They
unnecessarily politicized something that was intended
to be a piece of scientific work." 
 
The consequences of the media rush to judgment are
hardly benign. To enlist the facts of Jefferson as a 
sort of perverse character witness in our current
seamy scandal is to subordinate the purposes of
science to the dubious and shifting needs of politics.
 
Just as troubling is the implication in some media
reports that blacks in America should be somehow
pinning their standing in America's destiny on the
outcome of DNA tests.
 
By making science submit to our desires to satisfy
our political or racial hopes, we ultimately damage
the capacity to understand ourselves.
 
But beyond harm done to science, it is demeaning to 
Jefferson and Hemings to make their role in our 
shared destiny a matter of genetic contingency. What 
if today's (or, for that matter, tomorrow's) DNA facts
had shown otherwise? Should African Americans be 
regarded as historically diminished? In fact, isn't our
insistent preoccupation with the body, rather than
concerns of the spirit and the character, precisely how
we have impeded our racial understanding?
 
The contest over Thomas Jefferson's paternity will in
all probability go on. But as that debate continues,
may blacks and whites, searching for our common
American bond, continue to seek kinship in
Jefferson's ideals as earnestly as it has been sought in
our genetics.
 
David Murray is director of research at the Statistical
Assessment Service, a nonprofit science and public
policy organization in Washington.
 
© Copyright 1998 The Washington Post Company
 
 
 
Evidence of a bum rap for Jefferson?
 
Washington Times
 
Jan 3, 1999. Reed Irvine
 
 
The respected British scientific journal, Nature, is suffering acute 
embarrassment over the articles it published last month claiming a study
based on DNA analysis had proven beyond reasonable doubt that Thomas
Jefferson had fathered a son by Sally Hemings, one of his slaves.
 
Its January issue will acknowledge that its Novermber issue overstated the
evidence of Jefferson's paternity.
 
The article was introduced with this statement by the editors of Nature:
"The scandals involving American presidents are nothing new. In 1802,
President Thomas Jefferson was accused of fathering a child by Sally
Hemings, one of his slaves. A molecular genetics study in the Nov. 5 issue
of Nature finally puts the affair to rest, establishing beyond reasonable
doubt Thomas Jefferson's relationship to Sally Hemings' sons.
 
The article by Dr. Eugene Foster and others described a study of Y
chromosomes from the male-line descendants of Jefferson's paternal uncle,
Field Jefferson, and male-line descendants of two of Sally Hemings' sons,
her first-born, Thomas Woodson and her last son, Eston Hemings Jefferson.
Five male descendants of Jefferson's uncle were used in this study because
Thomas Jefferson had no sons to carry on the line. The chromosomes of the
five descendants of Field Jefferson were found to share an uncommon
distinctive characteristic.
 
That characteristic was not found in any of the five descendants of Hemings'
first son, Thomas Woodson, proving Jefferson was not his father -- the
allegation published by a Richmond newspaper in 1802 and a claim that
Woodson's descendants believed to be true. There was only one descendant of
Eston in the study. His Y chromosomes had the distinctive Jefferson
characteristic. That was what Nature trumpeted as proving beyond reasonable
doubt Thomas Jefferson's relationship to Sally Hemings's sons.
 
The article itself was a tad more cautious. It allowed that there were other
remote possibilities that someone other than Jefferson fathered Eston, but
the authors said, "In the absence of historical evidence to support such
possibilities, we consider them to be unlikely." But the title of the
article threw all such caution to the wind. It read, "Jefferson fathered
slave's last child."
 
This resulted in numerous articles based on the belief that Jefferson was
guilty as charged. Historian Joseph Ellis wrote, "Our heroes -- and
especially presidents -- are not gods or saints, but flesh-and-blood humans,
with all the frailties and imperfections that this entails. Others were more
critical, calling Jefferson a hypocrite and perhaps even a rapist. One of
the worst was written by Christopher Hitchens and published in the Nation.
He suggested that Jefferson be described as "the slave-owning serial
flogger, sex addict and kinsman to ax murderers."
 
Richard Cohen, writing in The Washington Post Magazine, implied that
Jefferson had impregnated Sally Hemings when she was only 14 or 15 years
old. He didn't know that the Nature article had reported that the genetic
evidence proved that Jefferson was not the father of Sally's first child,
Thomas Woodson. Mr. Cohen said he had always believed Jefferson had fathered Sally's children and that it was now a dead certainty. He said the Hemings story made Jefferson harder, meaner, selfish -- an exploiter.
 
Messrs. Hitchens, Cohen and others like them will not welcome the news that
the editors of Nature have admitted that the Foster article omitted facts
that make it clear that the analysis of the chromosomes did not come close
to proving Jefferson fathered any of Hemings' children. Since publishing Mr.
Foster's article, the editors have learned that Thomas Jefferson was only
one of nine living Jeffersons who might have fathered Eston, passing on to
him the chromosomes with the distinctive Jefferson characteristic.
 
The most probable candidate, according to Herbert Barger, an authority on
Jefferson family history, was Jefferson's forgotten younger brother,
Randolph. He says Randolph's wife died around 1793 and he didn't remarry
until 1810. He was a frequent visitor to Monticello, and a slave oral
history described him as liking to play the fiddle and dance with
Jefferson's slaves. Mr. Barger told Mr. Foster about Randolph and the seven
other Jefferson men who could have fathered children by Hemings. A Nature
editor says Mr. Foster did not share this information with them and that he
approved the headline that declared without any qualification that Jefferson
was Eston's father.
 
Nature's admission that its article was flawed and misleading will be
particularly embarrassing for historian Joseph Ellis, author of "American
Sphinx: The Character of Thomas Jefferson." Persuaded by the Foster study,
Mr. Ellis had switched from a critic of the Hemings story to a believer. He
co-authored an article for Nature that accompanied the Foster article. The
article called attention to many parallels between Jefferson and Bill
Clinton, but it omitted one of the most striking parallels that nearly all
the media had overlooked.
 
That is the allegation that Mr. Clinton, like Jefferson, fathered a black
son. The family of the boy's mother wants a paternity test for Mr. Clinton.
They believe DNA will prove the president is the deadbeat dad of 14-year-old
Danny.
 

6 Posted on 01/05/2000 07:55:50 PST by Mia T
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To: ATTENTION! BILL O'REILLY

DOUBLE- HELIX

HOAXES

Star-Magazine-financed paternity test worthless
 
 
Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of Clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with
constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson, posthumously misappropriated.

--Mia T, THE OTHER NIXON

 

JEFFERSON PATERNITY:

DOUBLE HELIX HOAX?
 
11/2/98
 
by Mia T
 
DNA, the acronym for
the double helix tongue twister
deoxyribonucleic acid,
became the Scotch Tape of forensic identification
during the sanguinary OJ Era.
 
Now that we are sloshing through the Semen Age of Clinton,
DNA analysis has again resurfaced as a tool of lawyers
and the sociopaths they defend.
 
When the lay public hears "DNA match,"
it reflexively thinks "certain identity,"
not understanding that results are expressed
in terms of a probability of chance occurrence.
 
Nonetheless, it would not be an overstatement to say
that Kenneth Starr established conclusively
that the semen on Monica's navy blue Gap dress was clinton's.
 
RFLP analysis of clinton's DNA determined
that the frequency of the matching genetic markers
extracted from the presidential fluids
is characteristic of one out of 7.87 trillion Caucasians.
 
The world population is only around 5 or so billion.
So, statistically speaking,
you would have to search outer space to find another match.
Maybe clinton lackey Glenn will find it...
 
Similarly, the blood matches to OJ Simpson's DNA
(RFLP, Cellmark)
yielded probabilities as rare as 1 in 150 billion,
and again, virtual identity.
 
Which brings me to the DNA analysis
that purports to answer the long-standing historical controversy:
Did Thomas Jefferson father the children of Sally Hemings?
 
In my opinion, this study is junk science.
Identification is more apparent than real.
The methodology is, at best, vaguely described and/or sloppy,
and at worst, a fraud (possibly concocted by a clinton/Carville cabal
together with those 400 hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,
retrograde-obsessing historiographers.
It is illuminating in this regard that for the past week
Carville had been shopping the story to the press
and one of the hog-and-bow-tied 400 was an author of the study).
 
The goal, according to the authors of the study, Eugene A. Foster, et al.,
was "to throw some scientific light on the dispute." (1)
An odd way of putting it...a goal not of scientific precision but of scientific aura.
 
And the result of the analysis is hardly the incontrovertible paternity
currently being fed to an unwitting press and a nonplussed public.
 
The theory of the study
 
Because, apart from occasional mutations,
the Y chromosome is passed unchanged from father to son,
DNA analysis of the Y chromosome can reveal
whether or not individuals are likely to be male-line relatives.
 
The study analyzed DNA from the Y chromosomes of: "five male-line
descendants of two sons of the president's paternal uncle, Field
Jefferson; five male-line descendants of two sons of Thomas Woodson; one
male-line descendant of Eston Hemings Jefferson; and three male-line
descendants of three sons of John Carr, grandfather of Samuel and Peter
Carr. No Y-chromosome data were available from male-line
descendants of President Thomas Jefferson because he had no surviving
sons."
 
With all the spinning bi-allelic markers, microsatellites,
mini-satellites, haplotypes at various and sundry loci,
with even the "rare" haplotype that
"has never been observed outside the Jefferson family,
and has not been found in 670 European men (more than 1,200 worldwide)
typed with the microsatellites or 308 European men (690 worldwide)"(2)
we are left with the following result buried amid
the semblance of rarity and exactitude:
 
"The simplest and most probable explanations for our molecular findings
are that Thomas Jefferson, rather than one of the Carr brothers, was the
father of Eston Hemings Jefferson, and that Thomas Woodson was not
Thomas Jefferson's son. The frequency of the Jefferson haplotype is less
than 0.1 per cent, so our molecular evidence is at least 100 times more
likely if the president was the father of Eston Hemings Jefferson than
if someone unrelated was the father.
 
We cannot completely rule out other explanations of our findings based
on illegitimacy in various lines of descent. For example, a male-line
descendant of Field Jefferson could possibly have illegitimately
fathered an ancestor of the presumed male-line descendant of Eston. But
in the absence of historical evidence to support such possibilities, we
consider them to be unlikely."(3)
 
One in 100 is hardly the clinton semen DNA result of 1 in 7.87 trillion
or even the OJ blood DNA result of 1 in 150 billion.
One in 100 is meaningful only in its
non-elimination of Jefferson as the father of Eston Hemings Jefferson.
And even that modest conclusion assumes an unbroken line of male-line descendants, tenuous in a culture notorious for uncertain paternity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Eugene A. Foster, et al.; Nature; 5 November 1998
 
2. Ibid.
 
3. Ibid.>>
 
-----------------
 
JEFFERSON DNA ANALYSIS REVEALED A DIRTY LITTLE SECRET...
 
by Mia T
 
The Jefferson DNA analysis revealed a dirty little secret.
And it has nothing to do with Jefferson.
The so-called literati are scientific illiterates.
 
Since this story hit the wires,
that crowd, barely able to contain its glee,
has been making much ado about nothing conclusive...
 
The Jefferson DNA analysis is not definitive.
Far from it.
At best, it merely fails to exclude the possibility
that one Hemings child, Eston Hemings Jefferson, was fathered by Jefferson.
The probability of a chance occurrence of this result is 1 in 100.
 
Said another way,
the DNA of one out of every one hundred males
randomly plucked from the general population
would be consistent with paternity.
 
Not very compelling proof of Jefferson's paternity.
 
Yet a clueless press is buying the spin from the
clinton/Carville inspired
400 hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,
retrograde-obsessing historiographers.
 
Cinder Stanton, a Jefferson scholar at
the Monticello International Center,
when asked today (Washington Journal, C-SPAN)
whether she believed the DNA "study" was politically motivated,
noted that the publication date of the 5 November Nature article
was pushed forward
[to a pre-election release by forces unknown, I would add].
 
----------------------
 
McLAUGHLIN: JEFFERSON PATERNITY HUMBUG
 
by Mia T
 
John McLaughlin (PBS) today hosted
a very interesting discussion on the Jefferson-DNA study
that included the study's Oxford-based author.
 
McLaughlin, schooled in jesuitical reasoning,
is not one to miss an obvious fraud.
McLaughlin's thesis was the one I proffered the other day, namely:
The so-called DNA analysis did not prove Thomas Jefferson paternity.
Indeed, McLaughlin confirmed with the FBI
that this putative proof of paternity would never hold up in court.
 
In fact, the more honest conclusion would have not named
Thomas Jefferson as the starting point in the so-called unbroken sequence.
The putative unbroken male-line of descent was not from Thomas
but from Thomas' uncle, Field Jefferson.
To conclude Thomas Jefferson paternity assumes, among other things,
that Field and Thomas' father, Peter had the same father,
and that there were unbroken lines of male-line descendants
in both the Hemings and Jefferson lineage,
a tenuous assumption in a culture notorious for uncertain paternity.
 
Moreover, Thomas' brother, Randolph had six sons,
and Uncle Field Jefferson son(s) produced 11 males.
All Sally Hemings' contemporaries,
the 17 sons plus their daddies often romped round Monticello
with their "rare" Jeffersonian Y chromosome haplotype
intact and ready for action (assuming, of course, their own legitimacy).
And let us not forget those
1 in 100 random males in the purlieus of Monticello
with that very same haplotype.
 
Yet, given all this, the science-illiterate literati
are now claiming that the study proved Thomas Jefferson paternity.
They are either ignorant fools or are assuming that that we are...
 
Is this another clinton scam being perpetrated on the world?
Clinton has destroyed our society,
subverted the Constitution,
destabilized the tripartite balance of power,
imperiled the national security,
rewritten history--revising presidential reputations downward to meet his pitiful one.
 
And now clinton is infecting science with his insidious brand of fraud.
All this destruction just to save his own sorry fat butt.
How sad.
 
 
PATERNITY HYPE VISITS MONTICELLO
 
 
The Washington Post
 
 
November 15, 1998 David Murray
 
 
 
It was, without doubt, the most heavily covered
science story of the year: Researchers found a genetic
match between Thomas Jefferson's family line and a
distant descendant of the last-born son of one of his
slaves, Sally Hemings. More than 295 editorial and
news citations have appeared in the Nexis database
so far, along with eight pieces in the news weeklies
and 31 broadcast transcripts, all based on the
disclosure of the findings in the Nov. 5 issue of the
science journal Nature, which was released at the end
of October.
 
Much of the coverage demonstrated a remarkable
flight from careful and skeptical reporting. All too
often, the news stories, commentary and analysis
transformed an intriguing but inconclusive scientific
finding into a dead certainty. Several journalists went
on to turn the DNA results into some sort of
referendum on the current state of race relations and
presidential politics.
 
Some outlets broke the news with appropriate
qualifiers: "DNA Test Finds Evidence of Jefferson
Child by Slave," wrote the New York Times; "Tests
Link Jefferson, Slave's Son; DNA Study Suggests a
Monticello Liaison," said The Washington Post.
 
But many accounts contained strong assertions that
paternity had been "proven," "conclusively
demonstrated" or "resolved." Examples include:
 
• "DNA Link; Paternity Proved," the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot;
 
• "Adulterer on Mt. Rushmore," the Des Moines Register, including the charge of "statutory rape"; and
 
•"A boost for President Clinton in fighting impeachment . . . evidence proves Jefferson fathered at least one child by his slave," CNN.
 
 
 
National Public Radio's Nov. 1 account was typical.
Correspondent Daniel Zwerdling announced: "The 
proof is finally in. The president not only did have an
illicit sexual affair, he fathered at least one child with
his lover . . . DNA testing has ended [that] debate."
U.S. News & World Report even ran a genealogical 
chart that showed a direct line between Jefferson and 
the modern descendant of Eston Hemings.
 
What the Nature article did by reporting a link
between the Jefferson family and kin of Eston 
Hemings was to add enticing new evidence to a
long-running historical debate. Before those findings, 
historians could only point to circumstantial evidence 
implicating Thomas Jefferson rather than one of his
male-line relatives. The new DNA match with one
descendant strengthens that circumstantial evidence.
With these findings the balance shifts, suspicions 
become probabilities. 
 
But certainty still eludes us. 
 
The best characterization of what has--and has
not--been "proven" by the combination of
circumstantial historical evidence and the DNA
findings is found in the original Nature report,
co-authored by retired pathologist Eugene Foster:
 
"The simplest and most probable explanation for our 
molecular findings are that Thomas Jefferson, rather
than one of the Carr brothers [sons of Jefferson's
sister, not paternal-line carriers], was the father of
Eston Hemings . . . . We cannot completely rule out
other explanations of our findings based on
illegitimacy in various lines of descent."
 
After the hyperbolic coverage began flourishing,
Foster wrote a letter to the New York Times calling it 
"regrettable that [our] statement has been transmuted 
into assertions that all doubt had been removed." The
Nov. 9 letter also said, "The genetic findings my
collaborators and I reported . . . do not prove that
Thomas Jefferson was the father of one of Sally 
Hemings's children. We never made that claim. Nor
do we believe that the Y-chromosome type we found
in Hemings's descendant occurs only in the members
of the Jefferson family . . . . this study could not
prove anything conclusively . . . . "
 
The original Nature article contained ample warning 
signs. The Jefferson case, the magazine pointed out, 
has always depended on the oral history of putative 
descendants and charges first lodged by political 
opponents in 1802 that Jefferson fathered the
first-born son of Hemings, Thomas Woodson.
 
Descendants of Woodson were shown in the Nature 
research to have no DNA match with Jefferson. 
Undaunted, U.S. News suggested that Jefferson might 
indeed be the father of Woodson, the DNA evidence
having been lost through subsequent illegitimacy in
the Woodson line. Jefferson defenders have used that
same line of reasoning to explain away the presence 
of a Thomas Jefferson DNA match in the case of
Eston Hemings. An additional qualifier is that
Thomas Jefferson was 65 years old and Sally 
Hemings 37, rather than the 14-year-old ingenue of
folklore, in the year that Eston was born.
 
Thomas Jefferson himself was not tested, only 
descendants of his paternal uncle, Field Jefferson.
This fact troubles some forensic geneticists working 
professionally in DNA paternity cases.
 
What did the DNA match positively establish? The
findings show a probability that the DNA of Eston
shows a descent from some male in the Jefferson 
paternal line, rather than being a randomly occurring
match from someone in the general population, which 
is put at a 100-to-1 chance. A simple analogy would 
be recovering from a victim a bullet that has 
distinctive rifle-barrel markings enabling it to be
traced. The research has shown that said rifle was
owned by males of the Jefferson family. But who 
pulled the trigger?
 
The story broke the weekend before Election Day, 
and political as well as competitive forces appeared 
to drive the timing. Nature's editors typically give 
reporters a few days' advance notice on research
reports that appear in the magazine, though stories
about those reports are normally embargoed until the 
date of the magazine's publication--in this instance,
Thursday, Nov. 5. But, under pressure from news
outlets that heard rumors of the findings and feared 
getting scooped, Nature agreed to the early release 
date of Friday, Oct. 30. That allowed the weekend 
papers and the Monday editions of the news weeklies
to cover the controversy.
 
Accompanying the findings in Nature was a 
commentary by Joseph Ellis of Mount Holyoke
College in Massachusetts, explicitly comparing the
alleged actions of Jefferson to those of the current
president. Some critics questioned the timing of the
Nature publication. "Just two days before the 
election, the (DNA) story gave the everybody-does-it
line both pedigree and prestige," wrote columnist
Charles Krauthammer. "Accident? Two days before
that, a full-page ad appeared in the New York Times
opposing Clinton's impeachment. Among the signers:
the co-author of the article [Ellis] in Nature
pronouncing the DNA data definitive, in which he
noted wryly the Hemings report's 'impeccable timing.'"
 
Foster, too, was troubled by the Nature commentary.
He told the Washington Times on Nov. 10, "They
unnecessarily politicized something that was intended
to be a piece of scientific work." 
 
The consequences of the media rush to judgment are
hardly benign. To enlist the facts of Jefferson as a 
sort of perverse character witness in our current
seamy scandal is to subordinate the purposes of
science to the dubious and shifting needs of politics.
 
Just as troubling is the implication in some media
reports that blacks in America should be somehow
pinning their standing in America's destiny on the
outcome of DNA tests.
 
By making science submit to our desires to satisfy
our political or racial hopes, we ultimately damage
the capacity to understand ourselves.
 
But beyond harm done to science, it is demeaning to 
Jefferson and Hemings to make their role in our 
shared destiny a matter of genetic contingency. What 
if today's (or, for that matter, tomorrow's) DNA facts
had shown otherwise? Should African Americans be 
regarded as historically diminished? In fact, isn't our
insistent preoccupation with the body, rather than
concerns of the spirit and the character, precisely how
we have impeded our racial understanding?
 
The contest over Thomas Jefferson's paternity will in
all probability go on. But as that debate continues,
may blacks and whites, searching for our common
American bond, continue to seek kinship in
Jefferson's ideals as earnestly as it has been sought in
our genetics.
 
David Murray is director of research at the Statistical
Assessment Service, a nonprofit science and public
policy organization in Washington.
 
© Copyright 1998 The Washington Post Company
 
 
 
Evidence of a bum rap for Jefferson?
 
Washington Times
 
Jan 3, 1999. Reed Irvine
 
 
The respected British scientific journal, Nature, is suffering acute 
embarrassment over the articles it published last month claiming a study
based on DNA analysis had proven beyond reasonable doubt that Thomas
Jefferson had fathered a son by Sally Hemings, one of his slaves.
 
Its January issue will acknowledge that its Novermber issue overstated the
evidence of Jefferson's paternity.
 
The article was introduced with this statement by the editors of Nature:
"The scandals involving American presidents are nothing new. In 1802,
President Thomas Jefferson was accused of fathering a child by Sally
Hemings, one of his slaves. A molecular genetics study in the Nov. 5 issue
of Nature finally puts the affair to rest, establishing beyond reasonable
doubt Thomas Jefferson's relationship to Sally Hemings' sons.
 
The article by Dr. Eugene Foster and others described a study of Y
chromosomes from the male-line descendants of Jefferson's paternal uncle,
Field Jefferson, and male-line descendants of two of Sally Hemings' sons,
her first-born, Thomas Woodson and her last son, Eston Hemings Jefferson.
Five male descendants of Jefferson's uncle were used in this study because
Thomas Jefferson had no sons to carry on the line. The chromosomes of the
five descendants of Field Jefferson were found to share an uncommon
distinctive characteristic.
 
That characteristic was not found in any of the five descendants of Hemings'
first son, Thomas Woodson, proving Jefferson was not his father -- the
allegation published by a Richmond newspaper in 1802 and a claim that
Woodson's descendants believed to be true. There was only one descendant of
Eston in the study. His Y chromosomes had the distinctive Jefferson
characteristic. That was what Nature trumpeted as proving beyond reasonable
doubt Thomas Jefferson's relationship to Sally Hemings's sons.
 
The article itself was a tad more cautious. It allowed that there were other
remote possibilities that someone other than Jefferson fathered Eston, but
the authors said, "In the absence of historical evidence to support such
possibilities, we consider them to be unlikely." But the title of the
article threw all such caution to the wind. It read, "Jefferson fathered
slave's last child."
 
This resulted in numerous articles based on the belief that Jefferson was
guilty as charged. Historian Joseph Ellis wrote, "Our heroes -- and
especially presidents -- are not gods or saints, but flesh-and-blood humans,
with all the frailties and imperfections that this entails. Others were more
critical, calling Jefferson a hypocrite and perhaps even a rapist. One of
the worst was written by Christopher Hitchens and published in the Nation.
He suggested that Jefferson be described as "the slave-owning serial
flogger, sex addict and kinsman to ax murderers."
 
Richard Cohen, writing in The Washington Post Magazine, implied that
Jefferson had impregnated Sally Hemings when she was only 14 or 15 years
old. He didn't know that the Nature article had reported that the genetic
evidence proved that Jefferson was not the father of Sally's first child,
Thomas Woodson. Mr. Cohen said he had always believed Jefferson had fathered Sally's children and that it was now a dead certainty. He said the Hemings story made Jefferson harder, meaner, selfish -- an exploiter.
 
Messrs. Hitchens, Cohen and others like them will not welcome the news that
the editors of Nature have admitted that the Foster article omitted facts
that make it clear that the analysis of the chromosomes did not come close
to proving Jefferson fathered any of Hemings' children. Since publishing Mr.
Foster's article, the editors have learned that Thomas Jefferson was only
one of nine living Jeffersons who might have fathered Eston, passing on to
him the chromosomes with the distinctive Jefferson characteristic.
 
The most probable candidate, according to Herbert Barger, an authority on
Jefferson family history, was Jefferson's forgotten younger brother,
Randolph. He says Randolph's wife died around 1793 and he didn't remarry
until 1810. He was a frequent visitor to Monticello, and a slave oral
history described him as liking to play the fiddle and dance with
Jefferson's slaves. Mr. Barger told Mr. Foster about Randolph and the seven
other Jefferson men who could have fathered children by Hemings. A Nature
editor says Mr. Foster did not share this information with them and that he
approved the headline that declared without any qualification that Jefferson
was Eston's father.
 
Nature's admission that its article was flawed and misleading will be
particularly embarrassing for historian Joseph Ellis, author of "American
Sphinx: The Character of Thomas Jefferson." Persuaded by the Foster study,
Mr. Ellis had switched from a critic of the Hemings story to a believer. He
co-authored an article for Nature that accompanied the Foster article. The
article called attention to many parallels between Jefferson and Bill
Clinton, but it omitted one of the most striking parallels that nearly all
the media had overlooked.
 
That is the allegation that Mr. Clinton, like Jefferson, fathered a black
son. The family of the boy's mother wants a paternity test for Mr. Clinton.
They believe DNA will prove the president is the deadbeat dad of 14-year-old
Danny.
 

7 Posted on 01/05/2000 07:56:07 PST by Mia T
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To: ATTENTION! BILL O'REILLY

DOUBLE- HELIX

HOAXES

Star-Magazine-financed paternity test worthless
 
 
Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of Clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with
constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson, posthumously misappropriated.

--Mia T, THE OTHER NIXON

 

JEFFERSON PATERNITY:

DOUBLE HELIX HOAX?
 
11/2/98
 
by Mia T
 
DNA, the acronym for
the double helix tongue twister
deoxyribonucleic acid,
became the Scotch Tape of forensic identification
during the sanguinary OJ Era.
 
Now that we are sloshing through the Semen Age of Clinton,
DNA analysis has again resurfaced as a tool of lawyers
and the sociopaths they defend.
 
When the lay public hears "DNA match,"
it reflexively thinks "certain identity,"
not understanding that results are expressed
in terms of a probability of chance occurrence.
 
Nonetheless, it would not be an overstatement to say
that Kenneth Starr established conclusively
that the semen on Monica's navy blue Gap dress was clinton's.
 
RFLP analysis of clinton's DNA determined
that the frequency of the matching genetic markers
extracted from the presidential fluids
is characteristic of one out of 7.87 trillion Caucasians.
 
The world population is only around 5 or so billion.
So, statistically speaking,
you would have to search outer space to find another match.
Maybe clinton lackey Glenn will find it...
 
Similarly, the blood matches to OJ Simpson's DNA
(RFLP, Cellmark)
yielded probabilities as rare as 1 in 150 billion,
and again, virtual identity.
 
Which brings me to the DNA analysis
that purports to answer the long-standing historical controversy:
Did Thomas Jefferson father the children of Sally Hemings?
 
In my opinion, this study is junk science.
Identification is more apparent than real.
The methodology is, at best, vaguely described and/or sloppy,
and at worst, a fraud (possibly concocted by a clinton/Carville cabal
together with those 400 hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,
retrograde-obsessing historiographers.
It is illuminating in this regard that for the past week
Carville had been shopping the story to the press
and one of the hog-and-bow-tied 400 was an author of the study).
 
The goal, according to the authors of the study, Eugene A. Foster, et al.,
was "to throw some scientific light on the dispute." (1)
An odd way of putting it...a goal not of scientific precision but of scientific aura.
 
And the result of the analysis is hardly the incontrovertible paternity
currently being fed to an unwitting press and a nonplussed public.
 
The theory of the study
 
Because, apart from occasional mutations,
the Y chromosome is passed unchanged from father to son,
DNA analysis of the Y chromosome can reveal
whether or not individuals are likely to be male-line relatives.
 
The study analyzed DNA from the Y chromosomes of: "five male-line
descendants of two sons of the president's paternal uncle, Field
Jefferson; five male-line descendants of two sons of Thomas Woodson; one
male-line descendant of Eston Hemings Jefferson; and three male-line
descendants of three sons of John Carr, grandfather of Samuel and Peter
Carr. No Y-chromosome data were available from male-line
descendants of President Thomas Jefferson because he had no surviving
sons."
 
With all the spinning bi-allelic markers, microsatellites,
mini-satellites, haplotypes at various and sundry loci,
with even the "rare" haplotype that
"has never been observed outside the Jefferson family,
and has not been found in 670 European men (more than 1,200 worldwide)
typed with the microsatellites or 308 European men (690 worldwide)"(2)
we are left with the following result buried amid
the semblance of rarity and exactitude:
 
"The simplest and most probable explanations for our molecular findings
are that Thomas Jefferson, rather than one of the Carr brothers, was the
father of Eston Hemings Jefferson, and that Thomas Woodson was not
Thomas Jefferson's son. The frequency of the Jefferson haplotype is less
than 0.1 per cent, so our molecular evidence is at least 100 times more
likely if the president was the father of Eston Hemings Jefferson than
if someone unrelated was the father.
 
We cannot completely rule out other explanations of our findings based
on illegitimacy in various lines of descent. For example, a male-line
descendant of Field Jefferson could possibly have illegitimately
fathered an ancestor of the presumed male-line descendant of Eston. But
in the absence of historical evidence to support such possibilities, we
consider them to be unlikely."(3)
 
One in 100 is hardly the clinton semen DNA result of 1 in 7.87 trillion
or even the OJ blood DNA result of 1 in 150 billion.
One in 100 is meaningful only in its
non-elimination of Jefferson as the father of Eston Hemings Jefferson.
And even that modest conclusion assumes an unbroken line of male-line descendants, tenuous in a culture notorious for uncertain paternity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Eugene A. Foster, et al.; Nature; 5 November 1998
 
2. Ibid.
 
3. Ibid.>>
 
-----------------
 
JEFFERSON DNA ANALYSIS REVEALED A DIRTY LITTLE SECRET...
 
by Mia T
 
The Jefferson DNA analysis revealed a dirty little secret.
And it has nothing to do with Jefferson.
The so-called literati are scientific illiterates.
 
Since this story hit the wires,
that crowd, barely able to contain its glee,
has been making much ado about nothing conclusive...
 
The Jefferson DNA analysis is not definitive.
Far from it.
At best, it merely fails to exclude the possibility
that one Hemings child, Eston Hemings Jefferson, was fathered by Jefferson.
The probability of a chance occurrence of this result is 1 in 100.
 
Said another way,
the DNA of one out of every one hundred males
randomly plucked from the general population
would be consistent with paternity.
 
Not very compelling proof of Jefferson's paternity.
 
Yet a clueless press is buying the spin from the
clinton/Carville inspired
400 hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,
retrograde-obsessing historiographers.
 
Cinder Stanton, a Jefferson scholar at
the Monticello International Center,
when asked today (Washington Journal, C-SPAN)
whether she believed the DNA "study" was politically motivated,
noted that the publication date of the 5 November Nature article
was pushed forward
[to a pre-election release by forces unknown, I would add].
 
----------------------
 
McLAUGHLIN: JEFFERSON PATERNITY HUMBUG
 
by Mia T
 
John McLaughlin (PBS) today hosted
a very interesting discussion on the Jefferson-DNA study
that included the study's Oxford-based author.
 
McLaughlin, schooled in jesuitical reasoning,
is not one to miss an obvious fraud.
McLaughlin's thesis was the one I proffered the other day, namely:
The so-called DNA analysis did not prove Thomas Jefferson paternity.
Indeed, McLaughlin confirmed with the FBI
that this putative proof of paternity would never hold up in court.
 
In fact, the more honest conclusion would have not named
Thomas Jefferson as the starting point in the so-called unbroken sequence.
The putative unbroken male-line of descent was not from Thomas
but from Thomas' uncle, Field Jefferson.
To conclude Thomas Jefferson paternity assumes, among other things,
that Field and Thomas' father, Peter had the same father,
and that there were unbroken lines of male-line descendants
in both the Hemings and Jefferson lineage,
a tenuous assumption in a culture notorious for uncertain paternity.
 
Moreover, Thomas' brother, Randolph had six sons,
and Uncle Field Jefferson son(s) produced 11 males.
All Sally Hemings' contemporaries,
the 17 sons plus their daddies often romped round Monticello
with their "rare" Jeffersonian Y chromosome haplotype
intact and ready for action (assuming, of course, their own legitimacy).
And let us not forget those
1 in 100 random males in the purlieus of Monticello
with that very same haplotype.
 
Yet, given all this, the science-illiterate literati
are now claiming that the study proved Thomas Jefferson paternity.
They are either ignorant fools or are assuming that that we are...
 
Is this another clinton scam being perpetrated on the world?
Clinton has destroyed our society,
subverted the Constitution,
destabilized the tripartite balance of power,
imperiled the national security,
rewritten history--revising presidential reputations downward to meet his pitiful one.
 
And now clinton is infecting science with his insidious brand of fraud.
All this destruction just to save his own sorry fat butt.
How sad.
 
 
PATERNITY HYPE VISITS MONTICELLO
 
 
The Washington Post
 
 
November 15, 1998 David Murray
 
 
 
It was, without doubt, the most heavily covered
science story of the year: Researchers found a genetic
match between Thomas Jefferson's family line and a
distant descendant of the last-born son of one of his
slaves, Sally Hemings. More than 295 editorial and
news citations have appeared in the Nexis database
so far, along with eight pieces in the news weeklies
and 31 broadcast transcripts, all based on the
disclosure of the findings in the Nov. 5 issue of the
science journal Nature, which was released at the end
of October.
 
Much of the coverage demonstrated a remarkable
flight from careful and skeptical reporting. All too
often, the news stories, commentary and analysis
transformed an intriguing but inconclusive scientific
finding into a dead certainty. Several journalists went
on to turn the DNA results into some sort of
referendum on the current state of race relations and
presidential politics.
 
Some outlets broke the news with appropriate
qualifiers: "DNA Test Finds Evidence of Jefferson
Child by Slave," wrote the New York Times; "Tests
Link Jefferson, Slave's Son; DNA Study Suggests a
Monticello Liaison," said The Washington Post.
 
But many accounts contained strong assertions that
paternity had been "proven," "conclusively
demonstrated" or "resolved." Examples include:
 
• "DNA Link; Paternity Proved," the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot;
 
• "Adulterer on Mt. Rushmore," the Des Moines Register, including the charge of "statutory rape"; and
 
•"A boost for President Clinton in fighting impeachment . . . evidence proves Jefferson fathered at least one child by his slave," CNN.
 
 
 
National Public Radio's Nov. 1 account was typical.
Correspondent Daniel Zwerdling announced: "The 
proof is finally in. The president not only did have an
illicit sexual affair, he fathered at least one child with
his lover . . . DNA testing has ended [that] debate."
U.S. News & World Report even ran a genealogical 
chart that showed a direct line between Jefferson and 
the modern descendant of Eston Hemings.
 
What the Nature article did by reporting a link
between the Jefferson family and kin of Eston 
Hemings was to add enticing new evidence to a
long-running historical debate. Before those findings, 
historians could only point to circumstantial evidence 
implicating Thomas Jefferson rather than one of his
male-line relatives. The new DNA match with one
descendant strengthens that circumstantial evidence.
With these findings the balance shifts, suspicions 
become probabilities. 
 
But certainty still eludes us. 
 
The best characterization of what has--and has
not--been "proven" by the combination of
circumstantial historical evidence and the DNA
findings is found in the original Nature report,
co-authored by retired pathologist Eugene Foster:
 
"The simplest and most probable explanation for our 
molecular findings are that Thomas Jefferson, rather
than one of the Carr brothers [sons of Jefferson's
sister, not paternal-line carriers], was the father of
Eston Hemings . . . . We cannot completely rule out
other explanations of our findings based on
illegitimacy in various lines of descent."
 
After the hyperbolic coverage began flourishing,
Foster wrote a letter to the New York Times calling it 
"regrettable that [our] statement has been transmuted 
into assertions that all doubt had been removed." The
Nov. 9 letter also said, "The genetic findings my
collaborators and I reported . . . do not prove that
Thomas Jefferson was the father of one of Sally 
Hemings's children. We never made that claim. Nor
do we believe that the Y-chromosome type we found
in Hemings's descendant occurs only in the members
of the Jefferson family . . . . this study could not
prove anything conclusively . . . . "
 
The original Nature article contained ample warning 
signs. The Jefferson case, the magazine pointed out, 
has always depended on the oral history of putative 
descendants and charges first lodged by political 
opponents in 1802 that Jefferson fathered the
first-born son of Hemings, Thomas Woodson.
 
Descendants of Woodson were shown in the Nature 
research to have no DNA match with Jefferson. 
Undaunted, U.S. News suggested that Jefferson might 
indeed be the father of Woodson, the DNA evidence
having been lost through subsequent illegitimacy in
the Woodson line. Jefferson defenders have used that
same line of reasoning to explain away the presence 
of a Thomas Jefferson DNA match in the case of
Eston Hemings. An additional qualifier is that
Thomas Jefferson was 65 years old and Sally 
Hemings 37, rather than the 14-year-old ingenue of
folklore, in the year that Eston was born.
 
Thomas Jefferson himself was not tested, only 
descendants of his paternal uncle, Field Jefferson.
This fact troubles some forensic geneticists working 
professionally in DNA paternity cases.
 
What did the DNA match positively establish? The
findings show a probability that the DNA of Eston
shows a descent from some male in the Jefferson 
paternal line, rather than being a randomly occurring
match from someone in the general population, which 
is put at a 100-to-1 chance. A simple analogy would 
be recovering from a victim a bullet that has 
distinctive rifle-barrel markings enabling it to be
traced. The research has shown that said rifle was
owned by males of the Jefferson family. But who 
pulled the trigger?
 
The story broke the weekend before Election Day, 
and political as well as competitive forces appeared 
to drive the timing. Nature's editors typically give 
reporters a few days' advance notice on research
reports that appear in the magazine, though stories
about those reports are normally embargoed until the 
date of the magazine's publication--in this instance,
Thursday, Nov. 5. But, under pressure from news
outlets that heard rumors of the findings and feared 
getting scooped, Nature agreed to the early release 
date of Friday, Oct. 30. That allowed the weekend 
papers and the Monday editions of the news weeklies
to cover the controversy.
 
Accompanying the findings in Nature was a 
commentary by Joseph Ellis of Mount Holyoke
College in Massachusetts, explicitly comparing the
alleged actions of Jefferson to those of the current
president. Some critics questioned the timing of the
Nature publication. "Just two days before the 
election, the (DNA) story gave the everybody-does-it
line both pedigree and prestige," wrote columnist
Charles Krauthammer. "Accident? Two days before
that, a full-page ad appeared in the New York Times
opposing Clinton's impeachment. Among the signers:
the co-author of the article [Ellis] in Nature
pronouncing the DNA data definitive, in which he
noted wryly the Hemings report's 'impeccable timing.'"
 
Foster, too, was troubled by the Nature commentary.
He told the Washington Times on Nov. 10, "They
unnecessarily politicized something that was intended
to be a piece of scientific work." 
 
The consequences of the media rush to judgment are
hardly benign. To enlist the facts of Jefferson as a 
sort of perverse character witness in our current
seamy scandal is to subordinate the purposes of
science to the dubious and shifting needs of politics.
 
Just as troubling is the implication in some media
reports that blacks in America should be somehow
pinning their standing in America's destiny on the
outcome of DNA tests.
 
By making science submit to our desires to satisfy
our political or racial hopes, we ultimately damage
the capacity to understand ourselves.
 
But beyond harm done to science, it is demeaning to 
Jefferson and Hemings to make their role in our 
shared destiny a matter of genetic contingency. What 
if today's (or, for that matter, tomorrow's) DNA facts
had shown otherwise? Should African Americans be 
regarded as historically diminished? In fact, isn't our
insistent preoccupation with the body, rather than
concerns of the spirit and the character, precisely how
we have impeded our racial understanding?
 
The contest over Thomas Jefferson's paternity will in
all probability go on. But as that debate continues,
may blacks and whites, searching for our common
American bond, continue to seek kinship in
Jefferson's ideals as earnestly as it has been sought in
our genetics.
 
David Murray is director of research at the Statistical
Assessment Service, a nonprofit science and public
policy organization in Washington.
 
© Copyright 1998 The Washington Post Company
 
 
 
Evidence of a bum rap for Jefferson?
 
Washington Times
 
Jan 3, 1999. Reed Irvine
 
 
The respected British scientific journal, Nature, is suffering acute 
embarrassment over the articles it published last month claiming a study
based on DNA analysis had proven beyond reasonable doubt that Thomas
Jefferson had fathered a son by Sally Hemings, one of his slaves.
 
Its January issue will acknowledge that its Novermber issue overstated the
evidence of Jefferson's paternity.
 
The article was introduced with this statement by the editors of Nature:
"The scandals involving American presidents are nothing new. In 1802,
President Thomas Jefferson was accused of fathering a child by Sally
Hemings, one of his slaves. A molecular genetics study in the Nov. 5 issue
of Nature finally puts the affair to rest, establishing beyond reasonable
doubt Thomas Jefferson's relationship to Sally Hemings' sons.
 
The article by Dr. Eugene Foster and others described a study of Y
chromosomes from the male-line descendants of Jefferson's paternal uncle,
Field Jefferson, and male-line descendants of two of Sally Hemings' sons,
her first-born, Thomas Woodson and her last son, Eston Hemings Jefferson.
Five male descendants of Jefferson's uncle were used in this study because
Thomas Jefferson had no sons to carry on the line. The chromosomes of the
five descendants of Field Jefferson were found to share an uncommon
distinctive characteristic.
 
That characteristic was not found in any of the five descendants of Hemings'
first son, Thomas Woodson, proving Jefferson was not his father -- the
allegation published by a Richmond newspaper in 1802 and a claim that
Woodson's descendants believed to be true. There was only one descendant of
Eston in the study. His Y chromosomes had the distinctive Jefferson
characteristic. That was what Nature trumpeted as proving beyond reasonable
doubt Thomas Jefferson's relationship to Sally Hemings's sons.
 
The article itself was a tad more cautious. It allowed that there were other
remote possibilities that someone other than Jefferson fathered Eston, but
the authors said, "In the absence of historical evidence to support such
possibilities, we consider them to be unlikely." But the title of the
article threw all such caution to the wind. It read, "Jefferson fathered
slave's last child."
 
This resulted in numerous articles based on the belief that Jefferson was
guilty as charged. Historian Joseph Ellis wrote, "Our heroes -- and
especially presidents -- are not gods or saints, but flesh-and-blood humans,
with all the frailties and imperfections that this entails. Others were more
critical, calling Jefferson a hypocrite and perhaps even a rapist. One of
the worst was written by Christopher Hitchens and published in the Nation.
He suggested that Jefferson be described as "the slave-owning serial
flogger, sex addict and kinsman to ax murderers."
 
Richard Cohen, writing in The Washington Post Magazine, implied that
Jefferson had impregnated Sally Hemings when she was only 14 or 15 years
old. He didn't know that the Nature article had reported that the genetic
evidence proved that Jefferson was not the father of Sally's first child,
Thomas Woodson. Mr. Cohen said he had always believed Jefferson had fathered Sally's children and that it was now a dead certainty. He said the Hemings story made Jefferson harder, meaner, selfish -- an exploiter.
 
Messrs. Hitchens, Cohen and others like them will not welcome the news that
the editors of Nature have admitted that the Foster article omitted facts
that make it clear that the analysis of the chromosomes did not come close
to proving Jefferson fathered any of Hemings' children. Since publishing Mr.
Foster's article, the editors have learned that Thomas Jefferson was only
one of nine living Jeffersons who might have fathered Eston, passing on to
him the chromosomes with the distinctive Jefferson characteristic.
 
The most probable candidate, according to Herbert Barger, an authority on
Jefferson family history, was Jefferson's forgotten younger brother,
Randolph. He says Randolph's wife died around 1793 and he didn't remarry
until 1810. He was a frequent visitor to Monticello, and a slave oral
history described him as liking to play the fiddle and dance with
Jefferson's slaves. Mr. Barger told Mr. Foster about Randolph and the seven
other Jefferson men who could have fathered children by Hemings. A Nature
editor says Mr. Foster did not share this information with them and that he
approved the headline that declared without any qualification that Jefferson
was Eston's father.
 
Nature's admission that its article was flawed and misleading will be
particularly embarrassing for historian Joseph Ellis, author of "American
Sphinx: The Character of Thomas Jefferson." Persuaded by the Foster study,
Mr. Ellis had switched from a critic of the Hemings story to a believer. He
co-authored an article for Nature that accompanied the Foster article. The
article called attention to many parallels between Jefferson and Bill
Clinton, but it omitted one of the most striking parallels that nearly all
the media had overlooked.
 
That is the allegation that Mr. Clinton, like Jefferson, fathered a black
son. The family of the boy's mother wants a paternity test for Mr. Clinton.
They believe DNA will prove the president is the deadbeat dad of 14-year-old
Danny.
 

8 Posted on 01/05/2000 07:56:24 PST by Mia T
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Mia T:

I don't want to get her into further trouble with the Secret Police, but isn't it likely that Dolly Kyle Browning has a "lock" of the scumbag's hair from their early dating period? How about Gennifer Flowers? How about Jane Doe #69? This lizard has been spewing DNA all across our landscape for 53 years -- there have to be some good samples for a viable test. Just a thought...

9 Posted on 01/05/2000 08:12:13 PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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Bravo Mia

Now you're breaking them as well as making them.

Please take a moment to email Mia T's URL to O'Reilly<<---click here

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10 Posted on 01/05/2000 08:25:30 PST by Elle Bee (LQQK4LB@home.com)
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there are regular daily deposits of Clinton's DNA in the little sink off the oval office and on the desks & in the wastebaskets of the surrounding offices - when Clinton arrives late some place you know where those hands have been ...

11 Posted on 01/05/2000 10:54:11 PST by Steven W.
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