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Truth in Media
Bob Djurdjevic
If Clinton Didn't Have the Support of the American People…
WHY DID NATO BOMB SERBIA?
Answer: "Perpetual Commerce Through Perpetual War"
During my eight-city September 1999 "Tour de Serbia," I told the audiences - from Nis to Belgrade - that NATO's bombing of Serbia was nothing short of a gang rape of a small country. A military alliance of 19 nations and 780 million people; with over half of the world's gross economic product, possessing two-thirds of the global military power, ganged up on a tiny nation of 10 million. For 79 days, NATO terrorized the people of Serbia, dropping 23,000 bombs and missiles on them in 36,000 sorties.
Why? I'll try to answer in this column. But first, I want to point out that the citizens and the army of Serbia remained unbowed and unkowed by NATO's bombs and threats. This is not hearsay! I saw their defiance with my own eyes during the six days I had spent under NATO's bombardment in late April.
For that reason, at every stop of our September 1999 "Tour de Serbia", I told the Serb people that it was my privilege to bow my head before them in admiration of their courage and love of freedom.
And then I did it. [bow]
But let us start at the beginning. March 24.
Even before the first bombs fell on Serbia, we had put up at the Truth in Media Web site the first of, what turned out to be, 106 special wartime TiM Bulletins, encompassing 480 articles and 199,000 words.
I said in that first wartime TiM editorial, that March 24, 1999 will go down in history as the New Day of Infamy. Except that this time, American missiles and bombs did to Serbia what the Japanese did to America at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.
And worse... Because NATO was waging war on civilians.
When I traveled through Serbia in late April, I saw that this mighty military alliance was attacking old age homes, hospitals, schools, factories, churches, bridges, railroads, TV and radio stations... Take a look at some of NATO targets.
As Col. David Hackworth put it, America's most decorated living soldier, whom I also have the privilege to count among my friends, the "Clinton Doctrine" is:
"Bomb the civilians and the civilian structures until that country's military can't stand to watch it anymore."
In short, what NATO did to Serbia this spring was not war. That was terrorism! In the wake of such NATO bombings, over 1,500 civilians were killed - more than twice the number of casualties which the Yugoslav army had suffered. Some 30% of the victims were children.
The bombing ended on June 10. But NATO's war against the Serb civilians continued. Only by other means. The day the armistice was signed by NATO and Serbian military authorities, we said that NATO's "peace process" would turn into a "peace farce." It has.
During the next five months, over 400 Kosovo Serbs had been killed, nearly 500 kidnapped and presumed dead, and more than 180,000 driven from their ancestral homes. We have documented all this in another 52 special "peace farce" TiM editions, totaling 227 articles and 101,000 words. And proposed on Nov. 10 that that day - Nov. 10, one day before the western WW I Remembrance Day - be made into a Serb Remembrance Day.
Throughout this Serb ordeal, the TiM readers from all over the U.S. and more than 100 countries around the world were writing to us saying they were outraged by NATO's war crimes. Some Americans said they were ashamed of being American. As did some Canadians, Brits, Belgians, Germans… Some U.S. vets, as well as ordinary citizens, volunteered to go and help Serbia. None of them of Serbian descent, by the way.
So if Clinton didn't have the support of the American people, why in God's name did he bomb the Serbs? And on whose behalf?
Well, I have been saying for years the real motto of the New World Order globalists is NOT "world peace through world trade", as its leaders claim. It is "perpetual commerce through perpetual war."
First you knock them down; then you build them up. Either way, the "death merchants" and their banking and media partners-in-crime win. Serbia is just the latest case in point.
Bottom line? War is good business. Always has been. Always will be. Just ask the CEOs of the top 10 Pentagon suppliers whose shares soared as mankind's stock dropped. Their shares outperformed the rest of the bullish stockmarket (the S&P 500) by a 2.5-to-1 ratio during the first 60 days of the war.
Furthermore, NATO's Kosovo "humanitarian mission," as depicted in this clever wartime cartoon, was a case of premeditated mass murder. It had little to do with what Milosevic did or did not do.
Would it surprise you to learn, for example, that the Clinton administration requested an additional $112 billion for the Pentagon budget almost six weeks before the NATO bombing started?
Would it surprise you to learn that last year's Pentagon spending on arms was "only" $44 billion - the lowest level in more than a decade?
Would it surprise you to learn that, following the war, spending will go UP to $60 billion next year? For a total Pentagon budget of $319 billion in year 2005!
Would it surprise you to learn that the U.S. Defense Secretary, William Cohen, used an evaluation meeting of the war against Serbia, held by the 19 NATO defense ministers right here, in Toronto, on Sept. 21-22, to bully his allies into buying more precision-guided weapons and other high-tech systems?
Who do you suppose from?
From the U.S. "death merchants," of course.
So, as I said in a January 1999 column for the Australian "New Dawn" magazine, that the "Kosovo Crisis" was a product of the Washington Crisis Factory. Consider the evidence…
When was the first time you've heard of the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army? In my case, not before late 1997. Prior to that, the KLA didn't exist. At least not in public's minds. And no wonder…
For, the KLA was conceived at the June 1996 Bilderbergers meeting in King City, just outside Toronto, according to John Whitley, a Toronto analyst and a "Bilderberger watcher." The KLA was created, equipped and trained by the West with the mission to destabilize Kosovo, and thus facilitate a NATO intervention.
But don't take my word for it. On Apr. 2, the Truth in Media received a letter from a disillusioned "KLA field commander." He said he had been trained by German, Turkish and Afghan instructors. And that they received weapons from the NATO troops in Macedonia. The KLA orders were to destabilize Kosovo and act as NATO ground troops. His letter is still at our Web site.
In early 1998, in a rare fit of truthful candor, or perhaps a slip of the tongue, a senior State Department diplomat, Bob Gelbard, called the KLA a "terrorist organization."
Yet here is the KLA, in January 1999, looking ship-shape and ready for action in brand new German-made gear.
As was the KLA air wing - NATO. No wonder some American demonstrators carried signs saying that that NATO actually stood for - "North Atlantic Terrorist Organization."
"Birds of a feather flock together?"
If in doubt, take a look at Richard Holbrooke, now the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Here is this revolving door Wall Street banker-cum-State Dept. diplomat trying to boost the KLA image in a photo-op staged near Decani, in June 1998.
On the same trip, Holbrooke snubbed the Serb Bishop Artemije in favor of posing with this KLA fighter.
Bad luck for the fighter. As a senior British military intelligence official told me a little while later: "That KLA man was a fool to have allowed his face to be shown. Serb police are no fools."
Sure enough, the bearded KLA terrorist was identified in a September 1998 Yugoslav government brochure as one Lyum Hadziu, "a Swedish resident who joined the KLA in 1998."
His fate is not known.
Ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, the Kosovo War was minted from start to finish by the Washington Crisis Factory.
The war was the latest example of an evil, genocidal, parasitic, Machiavellian military-industrial-financial complex enriching itself on the backs of other fellow-humans' pain and suffering.
Not that long ago, in 1983, President Reagan justifiably called the Soviet Union an Evil Empire.
In both of my Washington wartime speeches - on May 1 and June 5 - I said that now, Washington is the seat of an Evil Empire.
Given that that's the case, how much real help or well-intentioned advice can the Serbs expect from the Evil Empire?
Despite the wisdom contained in the saying "follow the money", I do not believe that NATO bombed Serbia to justify a defense buildup so as to make war merchants rich. I am convinced that Europe, both West and East, fear Russia and are desirous of extending NATO's military presence westward to the Ukraine/Black Sea border in order to contain Russia, give Western Europe a safe geographical buffer, and ensure that East European countries remain in the western camp. For the most part, this policy is the energetic work of Germany, with Britain tagging along because it still wishes to pretend that it is a world player, and Clinton tagging along, hopelessly in search of a military-humanitarian legacy before he is forced to leave the world stage with the still-clinging reputation of a dissolute reprobate.
It is "perpetual commerce through perpetual war."
Many years ago Taylor Caldwell created a fictional family of arms merchants. She wrote their story in a number of novels. She knew then that the above words were true. The masters have to have war. It is the most efficient means of using up product. If a few hundred thousand or even a few million die, who’s going to do anything about it as long as others have jobs so they can pay taxes to keep the ruling elite in power. Who said feudalism is dead?
Yes, it was a small nation, but it was filled with vile, nasty barbarians living a Fourteenth Century lifestyle, a nation where burning, looting, rape and murder is ok conduct for a man.
Would you want your daughter or sister to marry a Serb?
The masters have to have war. It is the most efficient means of using up product. If a few hundred thousand or even a few million die, who’s going to do anything about it as long as others have jobs so they can pay taxes to keep the ruling elite in power. Who said feudalism is dead?
Djurdjevic is only talking about arms merchants here. Even he knows that economics as a whole doesn't work the way Taylor Caldwell thought it did. If the elite owned the means of production and the population had consumed everything there is to consume such that new product was not being purchased, destroying existing product would not expand the wealth of the elite for two reasons. One, the money to buy new product has to come from somewhere other than a printing press (which would be inflationary), and two, the owners of the means of production would have to invest to rebuild their manufacturing base. This would cost them tremendous amounts of money as opposed to enabling them to increase their wealth.
An economy can only expand if it becomes more efficient - that is, the same amount of goods are produced with less investment. This reduces the cost of goods and enables consumers to buy more goods for the same amount of money, and it also then frees money up to be invested elsewhere.
In my humble opinion, Taylor Caldwell, a good writer, was a lousy economist.
"In early 1998, in a rare fit of truthful candor, or perhaps a slip of the tongue, a senior State Department diplomat, Bob Gelbard, called the KLA a "terrorist organization."" I vote for neither. I believe that calling the KLA a terrorist organization was a deliberate attempt to make Milosevic believe that he had a green light to squash the KLA. After all, the US is always talking about or going after terrorists, so if the KLA's a terrorist organization according to the US gov't surely no one would object to its being crushed, right? The whole point was to mislead SM into launching his attack, and then pulling the humanitarian switcheroo. NATO was looking for an excuse to go after Serbia back in '98, and SM obliged them. (Of course, what else was he to do - the KLA is a terrorist organization, and fully deserved to be extirpated.)
The US pulled the same thing with Saddam "worse than Hitler until Milosevic came along" Hussein. April Glaspie, US ambassador, indicated to Saddam that the US wouldn't really care if Iraq took over Kuwait. He took the bait. Was she stupid? I doubt it - she deliberately wanted to give a green light to a former ally that was no longer useful to do something that would permit said former ally to be squished like a bug. Same with Gelbard - he's not stupid (evil yes), and his KLA terrorist comments were not a rare moment of candor but a well-planned Trojan Horse to trap the Serbs. Anyway, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Yes, it was a small nation, but it was filled with vile, nasty barbarians living a Fourteenth Century lifestyle, a nation where burning, looting, rape and murder is ok conduct for a man.
Would you want your daughter or sister to marry a Serb?
Am I missing the irony, or are you being serious?
Who says there has to be just one reason for a policy? The Clintons have always loved twofers and threefers.
On Germany being the prime mover, I wonder. According to an article in "Der Spiegel" published last spring, the new Red-Green coalition government was most reluctant after coming to office in the fall of '98 to join in the imminent hostilities, and did so only on the orders of Washington. And "Der Spiegel" is not just a government propaganda sheet. Its founder and proprietor, Rudolf Augstein, has been vitriolic in his writings on Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer since he became a warmonger over Kosovo.
Yes, it was a small nation, but it was filled with vile, nasty barbarians living a Fourteenth Century lifestyle, a nation where burning, looting, rape and murder is ok conduct for a man.
Do you mean like the burning, looting, and murder recently committed by several 20th-21st century Western governments, and like the rapes committed by the leader of one of those countries?
"Yes, it was a small nation, but it was filled with vile, nasty barbarians living a Fourteenth Century lifestyle, a nation where burning, looting, rape and murder is ok conduct for a man." Sounds like DC, actually, the part inside the White House in particular.
If you're attempting to describe Serbia, I'd suggest you step outside your fantasy world of Serbophobia, discard your well-thumbed copies of Mein Kampf and the collected writings of Franjo Tudjman, and use material that wasn't written by a nazi. Start with Black Lamb and Grey Falcon, or maybe Guardians of the Gate, and report back in a month when your lips have finished moving.
Anyway, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Interesting theory. With respect to Galsbie, I'm not sure. We were led to believe by the Bush administration that Bush had to be talked into Desert Shield and Desert Storm by Thatcher after Saddam had made his move. But then maybe the Bush administration was misleading us.
I think it came out in '91 that April Glaspie was merely following rather explicit instructions issued by the State Department in Washington. I believe that's documented, that the cables were made public.
It is "perpetual commerce through perpetual war."
A slight variation on this theme is new arms sales through new peace agreements. Every peace accord in the Mideast is a result of bribing both sides with billions of dollars in "foreign aid". The vast majority of ths aid is spent on new arms!!! Is this paradoxical or what? Sign a peace treaty, and then go a weapons buying spree. Defense contractors just love this!
Yes, they were recently posted on FR, in fact. Carrer ambassadors like Glaspie don't make "mistakes" like that. It was a set up. Aristeides, I'm still looking for that Chechnya article I mentioned in another thread. I'll let you know if I find it.
Sign a peace treaty, and then go a weapons buying spree. Defense contractors just love this!
Good point. And by agreement, the money has to be spent on American weapons.
And those defense contractors then contribute a significant fraction of what they get to the political campaigns of those politicians who have been helpful.
Anybody notice that Bernard Schwartz of Loral was at that New Year's dinner at the White House that turned into a fundraiser/orgy?
Arms sales is a large component of our foriegn policy. We bribe warring parties with billions of dollars in foreign aid to get a "peace agreement". These countries turn around and use this money to arm themselves to the teeth. Defense contractors love this arrangement. This is precisely the reason the new talks between Syria and Israel is taking place. Both side realize they have a golden opportunity to exact billions of dollars out of the American taxpayers because Sick Willie needs a legacy.
IMHO the peace accord is a done deal - everyone makes out! Oops,...except for the sucker American taxpayer.
> Yes, it was a small nation, but it was filled with vile, > nasty barbarians living a Fourteenth Century lifestyle, a > nation where burning, looting, rape and murder is ok > conduct for a man.
So true.
And until NATO intervened, the Serb Army was doing a pretty good job of driving the barbarians out.
And until NATO intervened, the Serb Army was doing a pretty good job of driving the barbarians out.
RIGHT ON!
"Would you want your daughter or sister to marry a Serb?"
That depends...does he have a job, is he a nice kid, get along with his parents, work hard at work/school, read good books, know how to cook/launder/fix-up the house, have a strong moral background, a firm handshake, an honest smile, a sense of moderation, like children/animals, find people who paint whole ethnic groups with a wide brush repulsive, wear good footwear, and above all believe that my daughter (and all women for that matter) should be treated like a queen and be willing to share in everything with her like a real man?
If so, send him my way. You see, John, it don't matter where you're from, it's who you are. And unfortunatly for you, you are a bigoted dullard. Too bad. My Serbian wife could whip you into shape right-quick if you'd like, though.
Oh gee, Byron, that list of positive attributes you mentioned would certainly exclude Mr. Hines from contention. On the other hand, the list does describe most of the Serbs I know.
You see, John, it don't matter where you're from, it's who you are. And unfortunatly for you, you are a bigoted dullard.
Ditto!
"Oh gee, Byron, that list of positive attributes you mentioned would certainly exclude Mr. Hines from contention. On the other hand, the list does describe most of the Serbs I know."
Funny that ;)
I would rather My daughter marry Milosivich rather than clinton gore or the twerp from england.
100% ludicrous! This is a foreign promoted insurgency and we should have been assisting the Serbs, as time will prove out. Time nearly always proves the truth!
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WHY DID NATO BOMB SERBIA?
NO GOOD ANSWER, PERIOD.
"Yes, it was a small nation, but it was filled with vile, nasty barbarians living a Fourteenth Century lifestyle, a nation where burning, looting, rape and murder is ok conduct for a man...would you want your daughter to marry a Serb"
This sounds like an apt description of the Kosovar Albanians and particularly the KLA - Muslim fundamentalist terrorists financed by Bin Laden, the Taliban, and by heroin trafficking. It's amazing how that mass media has indoctrinated people such as yourself into believing the lies about "genocide." Apparently, you bought the mass media tales about the saintly KLA and demonic Serbs hook, line, and sinker. It's of people like you that Hitler or Goebbels remarked, "How fortunate for rulers that men don't think." If you lived in the USSR or Nazi Germany, people such as yourself, who buy engineered propaganda, would make the most loyal communist or Nazi.
In response to your second comment: you like your daughter to marry a KLA Muslim fundamentalist terrorist?
" I would rather My daughter marry Milosivich rather than clinton gore or the twerp from england."
No offense intended, but my mother-in-law grew up with Milosevic's wife (and highschool sweetheart) Mira Markovic, and knew Slobodan and his brother quite well when they were in highschool. Apparently personally, all judgements on his politics aside, he's a bit of an ass. But this is the opinion of one man's mother-in-law, on a man she hasn't seen in 20 years, take it for what it's worth. :)
It's already a movie: "I Married a KLA Muslim Fundamentalist Terrorist", starring Jack Nicholson, Hillary Rodmunch Clinton, and John Hines as "clusterbomb boy". Straight to video, no doubt.
I still would rather have Milosevic as a family member than ClinToon, Albright, Blair, or Cook.
"I still would rather have Milosevic as a family member than ClinToon, Albright, Blair, or Cook."
Clinton can't be trusted around one's daughter, wife, aunt, grandmother, dog....
Albright, while I hear she's a decent academic, has apparently blown a cork and could easily order the neighbours house bombed if they complained about the smoke from our family's Bar-B-Q, so I'm with you there.
Blair is a family man, but a quisling nonetheless.
I would be afraid Cook would leave oily stains on my furniture....
Very interesting, although I don't know about the military industrial complex thing. Since Clinton has taken office the 25 leading contractors have been reduced to 5 and the subcontractors have been reduced under 100. I also understand that Clinton is negotiating with europe on providing european guns for our military. Now that's a scary thought.
Thought you guys might be interested in this one.
H&K makes a fine weapon, I'm told.
No offense taken but I dont have a daughter!! I just didnt like that assholes attitude.
A good and lucky man, Serbian women have a very strong character.
What are you talking about? Have you ever talked to a Serb, have you been in Serbia? Why do you hate Serbs so much? Give me facts on what you said. I am a Serb, and when someoune says things like that I want to know why.
"Would you want your daughter or sister to marry a Serb" I most definately would.
"Why do you hate Serbs so much?"
Don't be naive. He read it in the newspapers and saw it on his TV, and by golly even the our esteemed President said so- Kosovar Albanians GOOD Serbs BAD. If he saw it on TV, it must be true, right?
Bump! Give pozdrav (regards) to your wife. I want to congratualte her on her choice for a husband.
H&K makes a fine weapon, I'm told.
LOL, I'm sure they do, but I'm sure you've noticed the legislative war that has been launched against the American gun manufacturers and the lawsuits that are underway. This, like the tobacco suits, will result in the bankruptsy of the American manufacturers. That leaves us at the mercy of the europeans. I don't know about you, but I feel safer knowing we can produce what we need in times of trouble.
I'm all for free trade, but something here smells like week old fish.
..Serbian women have a very strong character.
Thank you. I most certanly do. (LOL).
The American public was talked into bombing Serbia by the media and the president. We might start by looking at who owns/runs the media.
A really GOOD start would be looking at the owners of NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC. Look at the other companies GE owns...see any potential for gain (besides market share) if we had a little war?
I imagine alert FReepers might find some interesting things looking at the board members of the company which owns CNN as well.
Germany supplied KLA with arms, accoridnig to a lot of sources I read in the past. It seems to me that they (Germans) wanted to destabilize Serbia enough in order to force it under its economic and stratigic umbrella. Maybe they did not really want to go to outright war like Madline and Clinton wanted. The fact is that now EU wants to remove economic sanctions on Serbia, but Albright is fighting very hard and putting lots of pressure on Europian leaders to keep sanctions on. How long they will comply, I don't know, but I've read on beograd.com today that a high Astrian official said again that it is of the utmost importance that Serbia be integrated in Europe again.
This White House bunch represents the lowest form of debauchery. They sell out our country to the communist butchers in Beijing. They incinerated the Branch-Davidians who kept to themselves. They created the genocide ropoganda to divert attention away from the sex predator. They bomb an aspririn factory for the same reason, while keeping the plans secret from the joint-cheifs-of staff. They destroy the lives of the good loyal people at the WH Travel. Lie at will when under oath. Have an orgy of sex and caviar at the White House on Saturday, then go to church on Sunday.
Should make the senate democrats proud. The force that could have stopped it.
Very interesting, although I don't know about the military industrial complex thing.
I don't either. That's why I think that it was mainly a geo-political thing, mostly engineered at the behest of the Germans and the East Europeans, and less so by the Brits. Clinton, I think, went along for the ride hoping to garner a legacy as a military leader in victory and a humanitarian, instead of the worthless reprobate that he actually is and will be remebered as.
In my humble opinion, Taylor Caldwell, a good writer, was a lousy economist.
It is the age old contradiction of what is good for the individual is not necessarily good for the country, and vis-versa. While there has never been a war worth the effort in an absolute economic sense, there have always been some winners in any war. The danger is in those industries who profit from war, the defense against them is in those who profit from peace.
The dangerous element is the governments full of politicians who control the powers of a country. Of these, clearly the most dangerous are the ones who know least what war actually means. These are the real idiots. You know, guys like clinton who are willing to drop bombs on the only people in eastern Europe who put up any fight against Germany in both World Wars.
Good..you want yours to marry Clintoon?!!
And until NATO intervened, the Serb Army was doing a pretty good job of driving the barbarians out.
RIGHT ON!
I MOSTLY agree with you. But the KLA aren't barbarians, they're SAVAGES! Most of the things they've done in Kosovo since NATO's "victory" would make a barbarian blush!
And as for Kommander Klinton and the other New World Order rulers who sit in their offices and go to fancy state dinners and act oh SO POLITE and respectable, and have those muslim savages do their dirty work--in reality, they're not much more civilized than the muslim savages themselves!
I vote for neither. I believe that calling the KLA a terrorist organization was a deliberate attempt to make Milosevic believe that he had a green light to squash the KLA.
One can build an argument that the western condemnation of the war in Chechnya is designed to make sure the war is continued, since there are strong anti-Western (more precisely anti-Clintorn-Blair and Co) sentiment and their objections have an exaclty opposite effect.
I offer this passage from Clausewitz to Serbians everywhere. He has said this better than I ever could.
I BELIEVE AND PROFESS
I believe and profess that a people never must value anything higher than the dignity and freedom of its existence; that it must defend these with the last drop of its blood; that it has no duty more sacred and can obey no law that is higher; that the shame of cowardly submission can never be wiped out; that the poison of submission in the bloodstream of a people will be transmitted to its children, and paralyze and undermine the strength of later generations; that honour can only be lost only once; that, under most circumstances, a people is unconquerable if it fights a spirited struggle for its liberty; that a bloody and honourable fight assures the rebirth of the people even if freedom were lost; and that such a struggle is the seed of life from which a new tree inevitably will blossom.
I declare and assert to the world and to future generations that I consider the false wisdom which aims at avoiding danger to be the most pernicious result of fear and anxiety. Danger must be countered by virile courage joined with calm and firm resolve and clear conscience. Should we be denied the opportunity of defending ourselves in this manner, I hold reckless despair to be a wise course of action. In the dizzy fear which is beclouding our days, I remain mindful of the ominous events of old and recent times, and of the honourable examples set by famed peoples. The words of a mendacious newspaper do not make me forget the lessons of centuries and of world history.
I assert that I am free of all personal ambitions; that I profess thoughts and sentiments openly before all citizens; and that I would be happy to find glorious end in the splendid battle for the freedom and excellence of my country.
Does my faith and the faith of those who think like me deserve the contempt and scorn of our citizens? Future generations will decide. A nation cannot buy freedom from the slavery of alien rule by artifices and stratagems. It must throw itself recklessly into battle, it must pit a thousand lives against a thousand-fold gain of life. Only in this manner can the nation arise from the sick bed to which it was fastened by foreign chains.
Boldness, that noble virtue through which the human soul rises above the most menacing dangers, must be deemed to be a decisive agent in conflict. Indeed, in which sphere of human activity should boldness come into its own unless it be in struggle.
Boldness is the outstanding military quality, the genuine steel which gives to arms their luster and sharpness. It must imbue the force from camp follower and private to commander-in-chief.
In our times, struggle, and, specifically, an audacious conduct of war are practically the only means to develop a people's spirit of daring. Only courageous leadership can counter the softness of spirit and love of comfort which pull down commercial peoples enjoying rising living standards. Only if national character and habituation to conflict interact constantly upon each other can a nation hope to hold a firm position in the political world.
A nation which does not dare to talk boldly will risk even less to act with courage.
A nation does not go under because for one or two years it engages in efforts which it could not sustain for ten or twenty years. If the importance of the purpose demands it, and especially if it is a matter of maintaining independence and honour, such efforts are a call of duty. The government possesses all the means required to persuade the people to live up to their obligations. It is entitled to to expect exertions, to insist upon them, and if necessary is bound to compel compliance. Strong and purposive governments, which are truly capable of managing affairs, never will fail to act in this manner.
Perhaps there never again will be time when nations will be obliged to take refuge in the last desperate means of popular uprising against foreign domination. Yet in our epoch, every war inevitably is a matter of national interest and must be conducted in that spirit, with the intensity of effort which the strength of the national character allows and the government demands.
In my judgment the most important political rules are: never relax vigilance; expect nothing from the magnanimity of others; never abandon a purpose until it has become impossible, beyond doubt, to attain it; hold the honour of the state as sacred.
The time is yours; what its fulfillment will be, depends upon you . . .
Yes, it was a small nation, but it was filled with vile, nasty barbarians living a Fourteenth Century lifestyle, a nation where burning, looting, rape and murder is ok conduct for a man.
Would you want your daughter or sister to marry a Serb?
Where do you get all that poisonous bilgewater? I'll bet you don't even KNOW any Serbs. Haven't you learned anything from all the good and true information about Serbs that gets posted here?
In reality, the Serbs have a beautiful truly CHRISTIAN culture, and a noble, freedom-loving spirit. Of course, ever group has their bad apples, but I find what I have just said is generally true. And I've NEVER met a Serb that fits the media stereotype!
During this year, many people have thought that I am a Serb. I take that to be an honor!
Not only would I want a daughter of mine--if I had one--to marry a Serb, if she loved him, but I myself would marry a Serbian woman under the same conditions!
As for "burning, looting, rape and murder", that--and even worse--is the conduct of the KLA and Bosnian muslims who live in and near that "small country". It's bigots like you who help keep our country supporting those savages, who in reality would like to burn and murder US AMERICANS in our beds if they could. And it's bigots like you who help keep our country comitting horrible acts of violence against the Serbs, who have done nothing but good to us throughout all our history.
Why did Nato bomb Serbia? The worst thing is that it was probably not for the sake of geopolitical interests but rather more trivial: to save the faces of Albright and her amateurish diplomats. When the Kosovo crisis started, Albright had a history of failed diplomacy. She wanted a diplomatic victory and saw herself as a modern Churchill. The lesson from Bosnia was that "Milosevic caves when threatened with bombs". Further, the geniuses in the State department reasoned that the military brass in Serbia would know that if Nato were to bomb, "they would loose some highly valued military assets". They thought that the Serbian generals were so afraid of a drop in the value of their air defence portfolio, that they would force Milosevic to give up. At the very least, Madeleine Einstein et al thought, Milosevic would absorb a couple of days of bombing for domestic political reasons, but then give up. We know that the Serbs did not conform to this kind of modern enlightened thinking. Albright did not take into account the primitive backwardness of Serb mentality. These people were talking about "the honour and dignity" of Serbia, about "defending the freedom and independence of the Fatherland" against the dictates of foreign tyrants, just like their forefathers did in WW1 and WW2. When thus the Serbs did not yield to the mighty Nato, Albright et al were shocked. However, since Nato could not afford to loose face, they were forced to bomb. This is why the war on Yugoslavia was so evil: in order to save the prestige of a handful of people in the American State department, a whole nation was smashed to pieces.
You are no one when you are little.
But even the "little ones" get heard eventually. Serbia/Yugoslavia(and even us here at FR) may be "little", but even they will be heard and are being heard if WE all speak up enough and often enough. The reality of life as seen through the innocent eyes of a child never ceases to amaze me.
"The worst thing is that it was probably not for the sake of geopolitical interests but rather more trivial: to save the faces of Albright and her amateurish diplomats."
The two are not mutually exclusive. While it was conducted to a large part as a PR ploy by ClinToon/Albright, there was a clear ideological message in the bombings also: that NATO and other transnational powers do not respect or recognize the border rights of sovereign nations and that "nationalists" enforcing their own borders against terroristic separatists will not be tolerated by New World Order ideologues. Milosevic was "guilty" of the crime of defending his borders. To an ideology which hates the very concept of national borders, any force leading to the dissolution of nations will always be encouraged. Why do you suppose there is so much sympathy towards the Chechens now from ClinToon/Albright and Blair/Cook?
"As for "burning, looting, rape and murder", that--and even worse--is the conduct of the KLA and Bosnian muslims who live in and near that "small country". It's bigots like you who help keep our country supporting those savages"
I made the same mistake that you did initially. You shouldn't be so hard on this fellow Johnny. If someone is so weak-minded that they believe establishment media propaganda (drummed up to win public support of ClinToon's war), such an individual should be pitied, not chastised.
You're probably right. But my post is also for the instruction of the numerous lurkers etc., who might need it, and for the encouragement of the numerous Serbian lurkers whom I know for a fact read FR.
I agree that NWO ideology played a role in Rambouillet and the whole idea of threatening Serbia in the first place. Also, it was planned to be a glorious and triumphant showcase for Nato´s "new strategic concept", to be lauded at Nato´s 50 year anniversary in April. The self-anointed rulers of this world never thought that the Serbs would dare to defy them.
BUMP to your reply to bigass mouth.
and for the encouragement of the numerous Serbian lurkers whom I know for a fact read FR.
Strange, if I were a Serb lurker I wouldn't need any encouragement to speak my mind. I am not a Serb and I still voice my support for Serbia.
A few times I have shown the FR site to some Serbs who do not own Computers. I get to many threads where you all are supportive and even though they cannot read and understand...I point out friendly posts and smile and give the thumbs up sign..they KNOW I will not lie to them and they are delighted that you all are out there. And, they are surprised that so many of you care.
Once a lady who is a Croatian Roman Catholic married to A Serb said, "truth...please tell truth.Serbia is a good place".
A couple of times, I have posted to you all with a Serbian friend right here. I never tell you all...maybe some other time when somebody is visiting, I will try to post for them something in Serbian.
It is "perpetual commerce through perpetual war."
War is Peace
This was one of the slogans of the government of Big Brother in 1984 while Oceania was continually at war with either Eastasia or Eurasia.
The Clintons both read 1984, and they love Big Brother and what he stood for.
By accident Saturday I happened to watch a segment of the McNeil News Hour from PBS back during the Kosovo bombing. I had taped it at the time but never watched it, and had taped other shows over and over on the front part of the tape. After the tape ran out on Friday's McGlaughlin Group, this segment followed.
All the familiar conspirators starred in the show. Nato spokesman Jamie Shea was worried about the "car people" who had been trapped in a 20 km (12 mile) traffic jam and then abandoned their cars when approached by Serb "terrorists". Now NATO was trying to find them.
US propaganda specialist James Rubin was relieved to tell us that the 10,000 Albanian refugees who had mysteriously disappeared overnight from the refugee camp on the Kosovo-Macedonia border had turned up in refugee camps in Albania and Turkey. Then followed the genocide disinformation stories about the rapes, mass graves etc, which have since been debunked or failed to be substanciated.
It was a vivid reminder how just a few people can tell lies that deceive much of the world.
Yes, it was a small nation, but it was filled with vile, nasty barbarians living a Fourteenth Century
lifestyle, a nation where burning, looting, rape and murder is ok conduct for a man.
Do you mean like the burning, looting, and murder recently committed by several 20th-21st century
Western governments, and like the rapes committed by the leader of one of those countries?
In her book about Hillary, author Gail Sheehy recounts a verse Hillary recites when confronted with allegations about her husbands infidelity (apparently when she's not blaming the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy):
"As I was standing in the street as quiet as could be, a great big ugly man came up and tied his horse to me."
Sounds to me like a vile barbarian.
And until NATO intervened, the Serb Army was doing a pretty good job of driving the barbarians out.
Wonderful! My hat's off to you. Superb.
I am convinced that Europe, both West and East, fear Russia and are desirous of extending NATO's military presence westward to the Ukraine/Black Sea border in order to contain Russia
poor guy, who's been brainwashing you so well?
"American missiles and bombs did to Serbia what the Japanese did to America at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941. "
I disagree. The Japanese managed to drag America into a viscious world war. This did not happen over Serbia, although that was the most likely goal. Nor was the attack on Serbia about commerce. Instead, it was almost certainly meant to provoke Russia into attacking the U.S. In this too it failed, but only just. Clinton is one dangerous man. He represents far worse...
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