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Source: Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Published: Jan. 13, 2000 Author: Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 01/13/2000 08:00:58 PST by xJones

Thursday January 13, 1:34 AM Top Ten Reasons Letterman's Hillary Interview Was So Lame For years CBS "Late Show" funnyman David Letterman has been skewering Bill and Hillary Clinton on topics running the gamut from her involvement in scandals like Filegate to his White House sexcapades.

So it comes as no surprise that viewers were somewhat disappointed when Letterman donned the kid gloves for the first lady's "Late Show" debut, even though the ascerbic talk host had goaded her for weeks with pointed barbs until she accepted his invite.

But once Letterman had the US Senate wannabe where he wanted her, the toughest question he could think to ask was: "What's the state tree of New York?" Hillary got partial credit for answering, Maple Tree. (Full answer, the Sugar Maple.)

Though Mrs. Clinton finished her spot with her own politely amusing top ten list (obviously penned by Letterman's writers), we thought the best top ten list of the evening actually appeared on the conservative Web site Free Republic.com:

David Letterman: The Top Ten Reasons My Hillary Interview was So Lame

10. My FBI file.

9. If there's one thing Howard Stern has taught me - lesbians equal ratings.

8. I've often been less than honest with the IRS.

7. Did you see what they paid Web Hubbell to shut up?

6. My home security system lacks a missle defense capability.

5. For godsakes! - she's married to a violent rapist!

4. I want to see my Mom again!

3. Vince Foster.

2. Paul Shaffer - I don't ask, but what if they tell?

1. Who knows how many more "Mrs. Lettermans" they control?

On a more serious note, CBS brass was apparently concerned about a repeat of the booing that marred the the first lady's Millenuim Gala New Year's Eve address. Another Free Republic poster of one who claimed to have attended the taping reported, "We were repeatedly told (by "Late Show" staff) to put our politics aside -- this is a comedy show. No booing, no shouting...and if you don't listen to us you can talk to the Secret Service..." ------------------------------------------------------------


Don't think FR isn't noticed.

1 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:00:58 PST by xJones
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To: xJones

Hey people, FR wits have been noticed.

2 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:04:09 PST by xJones
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To: xJones

Bump, this is funny.

3 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:07:06 PST by xJones
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To: xJones

So the secret service is now controling applause on Network TV shows. Don't worry - this is not at all like Nazi Germany....

4 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:07:56 PST by artios
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To: xJones

Happy to hear this. Free Republic has been a great site in the past, has had its troubles and family quarrels, but it is the only site on the internet with such a variety of people discussing and attempting to learn what is really going on in the country. News and comment come from everywhere and from all kinds of people who are not carbon copies of one another or merely following the leader. Nice to hear someone other than the AntiFreeper site is watching and commenting.

5 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:10:53 PST by veritas max
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To: artios

Bttt.

6 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:12:07 PST by Born to be Wild
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To: veritas max

ver, the antifreeper site has devoured it's own with inner quarreling, which was only to be expected from a bunch of obsessed haters. They've got a few weak sites up but they're falling apart. Free Republic goes on.

7 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:15:44 PST by xJones
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To: xJones

Free Republic. The best little website on the Internet!

8 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:16:02 PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The best little website on the Internet!

Certainly the most interesting.

9 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:23:18 PST by xJones
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To: Blood of Tyrants

bttt

10 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:23:31 PST by eureka!
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To: veritas max

Nice to hear someone other than the AntiFreeper site is watching and commenting.

Those anti-freepers are the strangest lot. Can you imagine being pathetic enough to have a forum where you analyze what a bunch of people on another forum are discussing? I check them out occasionally - it’s like peeking in on your high school AV club.

11 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:27:39 PST by dead
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To: xJones

Which FReeper composed the top 10 list above? I believe it was FReeper 'Pharmboy' who attended the Letterman taping and warned us it would be lame.

12 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:35:06 PST by Fred Mertz
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To: xJones

"We were repeatedly told (by "Late Show" staff) to put our politics aside -- this is a comedy show. No booing, no shouting...and if you don't listen to us you can talk to the Secret Service..."

So, what law is being violated here that would justify the intervention of Hillary's tax-paid goon squad?

So, citizens are no longer free to 'boo' a leading political figure? Or is it just the Empress Hillary who has this private law to protect her dignity?

13 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:41:54 PST by Kevin Curry
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To: xJones

"this is a comedy show. No booing, no shouting..."

Are'nt Letterman's monologues regularly booed and shouted at? Guess it is not comedy.

But, ironically, the SS is right. Any Hillary appearance IS a comedy show.

14 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:42:13 PST by Arcturus (cerberon@juno.com)
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To: xJones

Neal Boortz noticed us too, and we're in today's (Jan 13,00) Nealz Nuze (After Jan 13, CLICK HERE- the first link is for the current day only.)

15 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:46:49 PST by George Smiley (georgesmiley@mailcity.com)
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To: Fred Mertz

I think it was dead, Fred. (har har but I think so)

16 Posted on 01/13/2000 08:53:24 PST by xJones
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To: Kevin Curry

So, citizens are no longer free to 'boo' a leading political figure? Or is it just the Empress Hillary who has this private law to protect her dignity?

Things have always been priviledged for the Hildabeast, KC. Consider all her tax-payers plane flights, the SS security around her new home...

17 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:05:05 PST by xJones
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To: dead

NOW do you feel better the first thread was yanked? LOL

18 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:14:09 PST by BitterCup
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To: BitterCup

Boy that whole thing was a coddamned fiasco!

19 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:15:31 PST by dead
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To: George Smiley

From the Boortz website...

HILLARY ON LETTERMAN

Hillary Clinton's list of things to do on David Letterman's show must have read something like this:

1. Bash Rudy Giuliani.

2. Convince those boobs in New York that she's not just a carpetbagger from Arkansas.

3. Further convince the boobs that she's still listening and cares about New York.

By some indications, it was a job well done. Hillary managed to get in a few barbs against Rudy Giuliani, taking time to criticize his policy on the homeless. While she conceded that "being mayor is a very tough job," she added, "I think being senator is a different kind of job. A senator can't just go arrest a homeless person."

You’re right, Hillary. And either can a mayor, you nitwit. Mayor’s don’t have arrest powers either.

Despite making the Clintons the butt of several jokes during their reign, Letterman didn't hit the First Lawyer too hard. In fact, his questions seemed more suited to Rosie O'Donnell. At one point, Letterman tossed her some softballs, quizzing her on some state facts. Oooh--that's tough.

But the most interesting part of the whole night was a message posted to the Free Republic (www.freerepublic.com) Web site by someone who claimed to

have been there. This is what the poster wrote: "We were repeatedly told

[by "Late Show" staff] to put our politics aside -- this is a comedy show. No booing, no shouting....and if you don't listen to us you can talk to the Secret Service..."

Believe it, folks. That’s the way Hillary gets handled.

Oh ... and remember what happened to the woman who jeered Bill Clinton at a public appearance years ago? A quick arrest and a follow-up IRS audit.
http://www.nandotimes.com/noframes/story/0,2107,500153731-500189187-500801716-0,00.html
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/1/13/03505

20 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:20:19 PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: xJones

Lame-Baugh makin' references to an "Audience Member" who reported the Secret Service says "no Boo-ing".

Rush, and we know you Lurk, this is for you -

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or arms. CROUCH DOWN AND LICK THE HANDS WHICH FEED YOU. MAY YOUR CHAINS REST LIGHTLY UPON YOU, AND MAY POSTERITY FORGET THAT YE WERE OUR COUNTRYMEN".

--Samuel Adams, speech at Philadelphia State Houes, Aug. 1, 1776.

21 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:21:41 PST by MassExodus
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To: Arcturus

Can you imagine a remake of Springtime for Hitler.

22 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:22:09 PST by ventana
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To: dead

From the credit where credit ISN'T due Department: I just overheard Rush giving credit to a member of the LUCIANNE.COM forum for having a member in the audience of the Letterman show last night. Gee...I thought it was Free Republic's own "Pharmboy". That's why I don't listen to a man so prone to making on-air mistakes.

23 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:22:28 PST by who knows what evil?
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To: who knows what evil?

I just emailed Rush with the 'facts' about where that thread originated. I also included the URL so he can check it out. Let's see if he is man enough to correct his statement.

24 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:24:41 PST by Vermonter
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To: who knows what evil?

Does pharmboy post at Lucianne also? If he does than Rush's statement could be correct. (It's probably not, though.)

25 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:26:10 PST by dead
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To: xJones

Rush quoted from Pharmboy's story on the Letterman taping and the warning to the audience not to boo or holler, but he said he read it on lucianne.com! Nice guy, there.

26 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:26:17 PST by W.
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To: xJones

"Don't think FR isn't noticed."

FR has been noticed for years now. We were once a Drudge link, remember?

27 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:26:42 PST by BFO
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To: xJones

That's a great 10 reasons, probably more close to the truth than we realize...

28 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:29:42 PST by born again (Billary Rules!!!)
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To: Vermonter

I don't listen to him anymore, but I'd like to see if he is man enough to correct his mistake. Does he still throw around that "right 99.4% of the time" nonsense? If so, only surfing Free Republic would give that figure any credibility.

29 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:30:34 PST by who knows what evil?
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To: dead

"Boy that whole thing was a coddamned fiasco! "

What was? Did I miss something good, as usual? :) By the way, congrats for such notice on a GREAT Top-10 list.

30 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:31:58 PST by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline

It was a 2am (EST) fight over the appropriateness of a word that rhymes with "coddamned". It resulted in my original post being pulled. The edited version survives.

31 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:34:19 PST by dead
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To: xJones

FR is very well noticed. One of the reasons there are so many more people listed as present than people logged in is because big wigs come here to pick up information and see what is happening. I've seen times when Rush Limbau's monologue correlated almost exactly with threads her with a time delay. I've had professionals from the White House or similar places come after me here in angry refutation.

32 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:35:32 PST by RLK
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To: Kevin Curry

Without a doubt the only reason people were not allowed to show any discernable signs of disapproval was because it was Queen Hillary up there. If it were Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan, not only would the audience be allowed to boo, but it would be encouraged

I am still amazed and disappointed over W. Cronkite's comment to Letterman prior to the show telling him not to be a jackass. I remember Cronkite's advertisements to warn parents that the prospect of your kids using drugs should "scare you to death", and to talk to them about it. Well, Mr. Cronkite, the very people you kiss up to advocate the policies that contribute greatly to the problems you supposedly warn about. Have you educated President Vacuum-Cleaner yet?

33 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:41:58 PST by PauM
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To: Vermonter

Read post from lucianne--linked from Drudge --lucianne was there and posted a report.--With all the bad guys in the world.. WHY pick on RUSH--Can't we all get along..GRIM,O I mean grin

34 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:43:30 PST by ralph rotten
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To: dead

Oh. BTW, when I saw that it was your top-10 list that got the attention over at newsmax, I was relieved. TrailerTrash had his own Top-10 List thread (something like "questions Letterman should ask Hillary but won't"), and I'm not sure I wanted all of what I wrote splashed all over the Web!! LOL!!!!!!

35 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:44:12 PST by RightOnline
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To: MassExodus

Sadly, Rush gave credit for the in person comments to something he read on Luciane.com

36 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:44:42 PST by OldFriend
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To: Kevin Curry

her dignity?

What dignity?

37 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:45:58 PST by Great Dane
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To: dead

Boy that whole thing was a coddamned fiasco!

I don't think so! Your sense of humor is great.

38 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:46:59 PST by xJones
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Not so little.

39 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:47:56 PST by micha
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To: Doctor Raoul

Thanks for posting that, Doc.

40 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:48:09 PST by xJones
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To: ralph rotten

I read Drudge's link on Lucienne's site last night. From what I read, someone was transribing an audio link from the broadcast. If you re-read the thread, you can hear that they were'nt there live.

I am not bashing Rush, merely trying to correct a mistake.

41 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:50:56 PST by Vermonter
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To: xJones

The show was obviously an attempt to bolster the witch in the ratings. It was staged.

42 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:51:37 PST by rbosque
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To: Great Dane

What dignity?

Oh, she has plenty of dignity--just as a swamp has plenty of swamp gas.

43 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:54:18 PST by Kevin Curry
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To: xJones

"We were repeatedly told (by "Late Show" staff) to put our politics aside -- this is a comedy show. No booing, no shouting...and if you don't listen to us you can talk to the Secret Service..."

What about Hissssssing? They used to do that in the old days, or so I'm told.

What about snorting, like a pig? Would that that speech also be suppressed?

To be fair however, I'd like to know if the audience is warned no matter what political figure appears on the show. The fact that the SS made the "request" is what concerns me the most however.

I can't think of another first lady, living or otherwise, who is so universally hated and despised, that she would have to give a warning like that.

44 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:54:37 PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: W.

On his show this morningg Don Imus's report of the evening sounded suspiciously like Pharmboy's post.

45 Posted on 01/13/2000 09:55:58 PST by CaptRon
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To: dead

dead, lucianne had a thread going last night too. The remark was posted there as well as on the FR thread.

46 Posted on 01/13/2000 10:01:29 PST by calohr
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To: dead

dead, I forgot to mention the only way I knew that there was a thread going on Lucianne.com was of the reference to it from Pharmboy's thread.

47 Posted on 01/13/2000 10:04:47 PST by calohr
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To: PauM

If it were Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan, not only would the audience be allowed to boo, but it would be encouraged

And neither Barabara Bush nor Nancy Reagan was a political figure in her own right! The Empress Hillary has crossed that line and is actively running for public office. That is the very reason she was on the show. The great purposes served by political free speech are met in her case in ways they are not met in the case of First Ladies who were not candidates for public office.

If the government-paid Secret Service was in any way behind the order for the public not to express disapproval of a candidate for political office, we have a serious violation of First Amendment freedoms, don't we?

48 Posted on 01/13/2000 10:07:44 PST by Kevin Curry
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To: xJones

". . . Letterman donned the kid gloves for the first lady's "Late Show" debut, even though the ascerbic talk host had goaded her for weeks with pointed barbs . . ."

This is like the little kid who was playing with a Ouija board, and has no idea what to do when he succeeds in conjuring up real demons. This time, Satan him(her-)self showed up.

49 Posted on 01/13/2000 10:08:01 PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: ralph rotten

Lucianne was transcribing from a poor quality audio feed - she did not have someone there. Only at FR could you learn exactly what took place before, during and after the show in the studio.

50 Posted on 01/13/2000 10:10:17 PST by SW6906
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To: dead

AFSS is toast.......Again

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51 Posted on 01/13/2000 10:17:11 PST by wattsmag2
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To: CaptRon

Cap'n, I have a sneaking suspicion more than a few shows find some of their material here, and give no credit. But, at least the word gets out, slowly but surely.

52 Posted on 01/13/2000 10:33:57 PST by W.
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To: W.

"It's amazing what is possible when noone worries about who gets the credit."

53 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:00:05 PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: BFO

We were once a Drudge link, remember?

I think thats how I got here.

54 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:05:26 PST by Prism
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To: Kevin Curry

If the government-paid Secret Service was in any way behind the order for the public not to express disapproval of a candidate for political office, we have a serious violation of First Amendment freedoms, don't we?

Hmmm - let me think..... uh... Yup!

55 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:07:57 PST by Prism
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To: Prism

Let's see how well I remember my down-and-dirty constitutional torts studies (any lawyers who are up-to-date on this stuff, feel free to help me out here): Some aggrieved audience member might sue the Secret Service agents in their individual capacities for stifling First Amendment freedoms under color of law. And isn't there also some way to bring the Letterman people into the mix as private parties who conspired with the agents?

Could generate some REAL heat for the Queen Hillary, especially if she could be named as a party too.

56 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:19:41 PST by Kevin Curry
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To: xJones

"We were repeatedly told (by "Late Show" staff) to put our politics aside -- this is a comedy show. No booing, no shouting...and if you don't listen to us you can talk to the Secret Service..."

So every night for years, Letterman's monologue is decidedly political and designed to elicit boos, hisses and jeers, then suddenly, on one particular night, it's announced that Letterman's show is really just a "comedy" show, in spite of what it's been night after night, year after year.

Letterman has just traded in whatever credibility he ever had, for a nice, new pair of knee-pads.

57 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:22:10 PST by Bonaparte
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen

... no idea what to do when he succeeds in conjuring up real demons...

This is a joke, right? Ouija boards work? Have I got bridge to sell you.

58 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:34:49 PST by js1138
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To: js1138

Actually, I was referring to (what I thought was well-known) Urban Legend. There was also a film with this theme. I believe it was called The Witchboard..

59 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:52:39 PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: js1138

Yes, Ouija boards work. Just as fortune-tellers and palmistry work. They work to bring people in to the occult, to subject them to demonic influences, to open them up to the Father of Lies.

About your bridge. Jump off it.

60 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:54:32 PST by Sharkbait
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To: Vermonter

With the Boortz fans I see, we have diversity, I do not make a habit of listening to Trixie (Lucianne), yes she has a radio show and I caught it today and guess what, she had a caller on a cell phone tell her he caught the taping, he did not get it from the net but he said about the same thing.
I jump back and forth to B-1 Bob Dornan's show and Boortz on the web.
My point is I put a picture on that "Pharmboy" post and there was one there from the tape show and had not been shown, now if your like me you would say we had somebody there, undercover, and thank you, whoever you are.
Go back bash Rush, he is a big boy and can take it, when you want to put the heat on who we owe for this past eight years.
later,
FREEgards.

61 Posted on 01/13/2000 11:58:06 PST by BobbyK
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To: ***** Pharmboy on Hannity Right Now!!! ****

bttt

62 Posted on 01/13/2000 12:41:25 PST by dead
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To: Pharmboy

Nice job on Hannity. I don't think that woman was really even at the show. She sounded like a Hillary campaign worker.

63 Posted on 01/13/2000 12:54:22 PST by dead
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To: Kevin Curry

Oh, she has plenty of dignity--just as a swamp has plenty of swamp gas.

LOL, oh that kind of dignity, think I believe more in swamp gas............. I know it's there.

64 Posted on 01/13/2000 12:58:01 PST by Great Dane
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To: Arcturus

"This is a comedy show....no Booing, no shouting......"

This admonition was obviously not in effect back in 1993 when Rush was a guest on Letterman's show........according to his rerun of that event today, Rush was booed and treated with alot of disrespect from the audience....He didn't mention it, but it could be heard in the background...Did anyone else catch this replay of his explanation of Hillary's ambition to hitch up to someone who was presidential material?.....

65 Posted on 01/13/2000 13:09:37 PST by Uff Da
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To: Uff Da

Rush doesn't travel with armed, taxpayer funded, crowd control enforcement.

66 Posted on 01/13/2000 13:19:28 PST by dead
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To: Kevin Curry

It was the Letterman staffers that used the USSS as a veiled threat.

67 Posted on 01/13/2000 13:29:02 PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: RLK

I've had professionals from the White House or similar places come after me here in angry refutation.

We want their screen names, give!

68 Posted on 01/13/2000 13:30:35 PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Doctor Raoul

I've had replies to some of my posts from a guy with the Associated Press (I could tell by his email extension - AP.org), but I don't want to give his name because he could work in the mailroom or cafeteria for all I know.

69 Posted on 01/13/2000 13:40:41 PST by dead
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To: dead

If you wrote the top ten list above then you did a good job and it is pretty funny. To tell you the truth I had no desire to read your post of last night. Notice that newmax changed the offending word. Even if you only insult 25% of the people here then you are doing yourself a dis-service. Because your list should be able to be read and enjoyed by all. The list itself is good work.

70 Posted on 01/13/2000 13:48:31 PST by Revel
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To: Revel

I never read the post from last night, but dead has always had a gift for comedy. I just don't know how he ever picked that name.

71 Posted on 01/13/2000 14:10:19 PST by xJones
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To: Revel

Notice that newmax changed the offending word.

Newsmax did not change the word, the FR thread was pulled. Newsmax took the edited version I posted shortly thereafter. Glad you liked the list, I had no idea people would find that word so offensive. If I was John Rocker, I’d whine about the emotional pain I’ve endured.

I thought people would raise an uproar over my "Bill Clinton on Howard Stern" parodies, but there was barely a hint of complaining over those. With more and more words becoming forbidden each day, it’s hard to keep up.

72 Posted on 01/13/2000 14:31:03 PST by dead
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To: xJones

Thanks x, "dead" was a college fraternity nickname. When I was pledging, I was a bit of a wise-ass, and the fraternity brothers would yell, "You're dead, maggot!" at me so much, that they finally decided that it would be my nickname. My friends from school still call me that.

73 Posted on 01/13/2000 14:33:39 PST by dead
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To: Doctor Raoul

I've had professionals from the White House or similar places come after me here in angry refutation.--- We want their screen names, give!

I didn't keep track. Some of them can be found on the replies to threads based on my articles. The Thinking as an Inmate of a Nazi Death Camp piece that was circulated here several times a year ago got damage control attempts from several obvious pros. Some of them pop in inder various names, then disappear in a hit and run shot. The Gun article that was recirculated on several threads had several people people nobody has ever seen before come in and try to put a cork in it. They weren't very good or effective and left with their tail between their legs. You can pull the thread and look at the responses.

I know who posts here and who is an outsider trying to institute damage control. Most of us know who posts her and who is an outsider. A+bert comes in at about 5:00 in the morning. There's you, Freedom Wins, Howlin, SeattleSue and so forth. I get paid to write on the net and I know who I'm dealing with when they come in as disruptors of for damage control.

74 Posted on 01/13/2000 15:28:07 PST by RLK
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen

This is like the little kid who was playing with a Ouija board, and has no idea what to do when he succeeds in conjuring up real demons. This time, Satan him(her-)self showed up.

Amen!!! Good One, Goetz!

75 Posted on 01/13/2000 15:45:54 PST by Paleo-Con
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To: Doctor Raoul

It was the Letterman staffers that used the USSS as a veiled threat.

Did the Letterman people lie and make up the threat, or did they convey the wishes of the USSS? If they were mere toadies for the USSS (which are toadies for her Exalted Wretchedness), then I say sue the USSS. It's a gesture Bill and Hill can both understand. It would probably even be a relief for honest and abused USSS agents. They can't tell Hill to take a hike, but if a citizen were to sue them for their carrying out the despicable wishes of the First Couple, they would have a basis for ratcheting back. The government would pay for their defense and any losses, I'm sure. While I don't like the idea of paying with taxpayer monies for their harm, it might be the only way to change of affect this pattern of abuse.

76 Posted on 01/13/2000 16:27:26 PST by Kevin Curry
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