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What Jean Lewis Knows

Crime/Corruption Opinion (Published) Keywords: RESOLUTION TRUST CORP.(RTC), JEAN LEWIS, WILLIAM H. KENNEDY III, NUSSBAUM, TUCKER, MCDOUGAL, CLINTON
Source: The American Spectator
Published: July 1997 Author: James Ring Adams
Posted on 02/02/2000 02:44:10 PST by Uncle Bill

The American Spectator
by James Ring Adams
July 1997

They became famous as the Kansas City Three: Jean Lewis, a Republican, and her two supervisors, both Democrats, who were placed on administrative leave for daring to pursue criminal referrals against the Clintons -- the same referrals that led to the conviction of Jim Guy Tucker and the McDougals. Now, for the first time, they're openly talking about obstruction of justice.

They are known as the Kansas City Three. Former Resolution Trust Corporation (RTC) investigator Jean Lewis -- along with her former supervisors, Richard Iorio and Lee Ausen -- did the most to keep alive the criminal investigation of Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan, owned by Bill Clinton intimates Jim and Susan McDougal. In August 1994, when Democrats still controlled Congress and the House Banking Committee had just completed a hearing that was a Whitewater whitewash, these three suddenly found themselves placed on a two-week administrative leave.

Such a punishment usually leads to a quick exit, although the three were never told exactly what the charges were against them. Just as suddenly, they were returned to work. Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr has looked into the incident, and Rep. Robert Barr (R.-Ga.), a former U.S. attorney, called it a possible witness-tampering felony.

The inspector general of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), which took over the now defunct RTC, completed an internal review of this episode last February. So far, only one person outside of the agency, House Banking Committee Chairman Jim Leach, is known to have read the full report. A truncated 30-page version is on the verge of being made public in response to repeated Freedom of Information Act requests. But the official in charge of "redacting" the report says he has been instructed to release only what is already in the public record. The long delay has prompted the targets of the punishment to break their silence. Their story is every bit as embarrassing to the government as the stall on the Inspector General's report suggests. Their only public statements to date have been congressional testimony (which in the case of Jean Lewis ended abruptly when a combination of stress and asthma medication produced extremely high blood pressure). Now they have agreed to speak in exclusive interviews with The American Spectator.

The main offense of the Kansas City Three was to produce a series of criminal referrals on Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan. As TAS readers well know, Jean Lewis submitted the first referral in September 1992 and pursued it tenaciously when it disappeared for months into the upper reaches of the Justice Department. When Clinton's friends there tried to dismiss her referral as insubstantial, she and her co-workers produced nine more. Their first effort, meanwhile, provided the groundwork for Kenneth Starr's successful prosecution of Madison Guaranty co-owners Jim and Susan McDougal, and their partner, Arkansas Governor Jim Guy Tucker.

Lewis and her supervisors mailed off the second wave of referrals in October 1993. The White House took notice of their dogged work by November 5. That Friday, four White House aides, including Counsel to the President Bernard Nussbaum, sat down in the Williams & Connolly law office with three private lawyers for the Clintons. They spent two hours reviewing the Whitewater problem, including the rapidly multiplying criminal allegations. Notes kept by then-Associate Counsel William H. Kennedy III singled out Jean Lewis and her unit as the enemy. Under the heading "RTC" Kennedy wrote, "people trying to get BC [Bill Clinton] and JGT [Jim Guy Tucker]." By the next Tuesday, Lewis was removed from the Madison case.

After fighting a Senate subpoena, the White House released the Kennedy notes at the tail end of the Senate Whitewater Committee hearings, just before Christmas in 1995. Clinton strategists likely hoped that public attention would be diverted by the holiday. If Jean Lewis was removed at the direction of presidential aides, don't we have a case of interference with a criminal probe, to protect one of its targets? Doesn't this make participants in the meeting material witnesses of, if not parties to, a conspiracy to obstruct justice? For the record, those at the meeting, in addition to Bernard Nussbaum and William Kennedy, included White House aides Bruce Lindsey and Neil Eggleston, and Clinton family lawyers David Kendall, Stephen Engstrom, and James Lyons.

As it happens, Lewis and her co-workers have provided evidence that suggests that friends of the Clintons were spying on their work almost from the beginning.
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Clinton Administration Rife with Tax Scofflaws
"William Kennedy III, associate counsel at the White House, said yesterday he failed to pay taxes owed on behalf of a 1991 child-care worker in Arkansas because he lacked a record of the worker's earnings. Kennedy's main duty is reviewing background checks on potential employees to ensure that no one hired would be a security threat or embarrassment to the president. Officials said the problem with taxes will not affect that role."
[End of Partial Transcript]

Travelgate - A Review and a Question
"By the time Congress completes its inquiry into Bill Clinton's impeachability, you're likely to hear a lot about Billy Ray Dale.

Hours after the putsch, then-White House lawyer William Kennedy III demanded that the FBI mount a criminal inquiry, claiming he was acting on "the highest authority."
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ROADMAP THROUGH SCANDAL - William H. Kennedy III is found throughout the scandals.

1 Posted on 02/02/2000 02:44:10 PST by Uncle Bill
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Kennedy Admits He Kept FBI Files!

2 Posted on 02/02/2000 02:47:36 PST by Uncle Bill
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Hmmm, wonder who slipped those keys back into Foster's pants in the morgue. I'm sure Kennedy doesn't know.

3 Posted on 02/02/2000 02:53:19 PST by DoughtyOne
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Bureaucratic snafu.

4 Posted on 02/02/2000 02:59:42 PST by Uncle Bill
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Well, at least they didn't wind up on the table outside Hillary's office.... smirk!

5 Posted on 02/02/2000 03:29:03 PST by DoughtyOne
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You are aware that Kennedy and Livingston paid a visit to Foster in the morgue, before those keys were found. Kennedy knows quite a bit. And by the looks of things, he'll never even be asked a question about any of it.

6 Posted on 02/02/2000 03:31:28 PST by DoughtyOne
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We can hope that Kennedy will be forced to appear in front of Judge Lamberth at some time in the future.

7 Posted on 02/02/2000 03:53:19 PST by ryderann (ryder@aol.com)
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nice one! remember jean was also guilty of taping a conversation w/ WH op (april breshlaw ??sp??) who was tasked to do some heavy duty arm twisting re: jean's investigation. (a long before linda tripp found out that taping threatening conversations about a crime was a crime).

p.s. wonder if kennedy's estranged wife is still 98.6???? she, too, knows.

8 Posted on 02/02/2000 05:16:41 PST by thinden
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>p.s. wonder if kennedy's estranged wife is still 98.6???? she, too, knows.

Not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion.

WILL SOLUTION TO CAPITAL MYSTERY AFFECT HILLARY? EDITORIAL, Pg. A4, ROBERT NOVAK The Augusta (Ga.) Chronicle July 13, 1999, Tuesday, ALL EDITIONS A FILING petition to a federal judge recently raised the possibility that the FBI files case, one of the capital's great all-time mysteries, might yet be broken open -- with political implications for Hillary Rodham Clinton. It requests the deposition of a former Clinton White House aide's ex-wife, who claims she observed her husband transferring FBI files into his laptop computer. "[I cannot] be seen by people in this administration as being out here volunteering information. If I get subpoenaed, that's a different story. At least, I'll have some cover.'' The June 29 filing by the conservative Judicial Watch asked U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth in Washington to authorize the sworn testimony of Leslie Gail Kennedy, who was married until late 1994 to then White House Associate Counsel William H. Kennedy. The request also quotes Mrs. Kennedy's opinion that Mrs. Clinton was associated with the FBI files. The next day, Judicial Watch also asked Lamberth for a deposition of the first lady herself on grounds that ''she was involved in, if not responsible for, making key decisions that bear on 'Filegate.' '' Most inscrutable of the Clinton scandals is the appearance in the White House during President Clinton's first two years in office of FBI personal files of prominent Republicans. Even partisan Democrats suggested this was an inexcusable invasion of privacy. Yet, after the White House shrugged it off as a ''bureaucratic snafu,'' Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr seemed to lose interest. But not the dogged Larry Klayman, chairman of Judicial Watch. His class- action suit against the White House, the FBI, selected aides and Mrs. Clinton asks $ 90 million for personages whose confidential files went astray. Happily for Klayman, the case is in the courtroom of Lamberth -- a Reagan appointee who shows no deference to the Clinton Administration.

STILL, THE case looked dead until Judicial Watch employee Christopher Farrell interviewed Mrs. Kennedy at her Little Rock home June 11. According to Farrell's court filing, she told him that her then husband ''brought FBI files from his White House office to their home in Alexandria, Va.'' She observed him ''on several occasions'' working for hours, ''making entries from the files into a database he maintained on his laptop computer.'' Mrs. Kennedy, according to the filing, asserted that the database ''was intended to make FBI file information accessible and useful to the Clinton Administration.'' Asked whether these were files of Reagan and Bush Administration staffers, she replied there would be no need to review files of Democrats ''routinely available'' at the White House. Her statement tended to be confirmed by the deposition in the case last December by Linda Tripp, swearing that as a White House staffer she knew of Kennedy putting FBI files into his database. FARRELL VISITED Mrs. Kennedy again June 16 to get a sworn affidavit, but she demurred. According to the filing, she said she ''could not be seen by people in this administration as being out here volunteering information. If I get subpoenaed, that's a different story. At least, I'll have some cover.'' If she is telling the truth, her ex-husband is in trouble. When deposed by Judicial Watch last October, Kennedy denied ever using a laptop computer while working at the White House. He said ''I don't recall'' bringing home work related to the personnel clearance process and declared FBI files were ''locked up after-hours in the White House.'' Kennedy's attorneys did not respond to my telephone calls. Kennedy was no underling in the category of file purveyors Craig Livingstone and Anthony Marceca. He was Mrs. Clinton's colleague at the famous Rose Law Firm in Little Rock and is back there now. It is improbable that he would carry on activities alleged by his former wife without higher approval. Mrs. Kennedy expressed personal views about how high the scandal goes. Asked what use might be made of the files, the court filing says, she ''pointed out that Mrs. Clinton's first major policy objective was 'health care reform' and that Mrs. Clinton anticipated resistance from many people in forwarding her agenda.'' WHAT MRS. KENNEDY would say under oath and cross-examination remains to be seen. Judge Lamberth now must decide whether she will be brought to Washington. He also must decide whether the first lady must finally tell what she knows about her erstwhile law partner and what he was doing with those FBI files.

9 Posted on 02/02/2000 06:21:46 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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BUMP

10 Posted on 02/02/2000 06:51:33 PST by 1234
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bttt

11 Posted on 02/02/2000 06:53:26 PST by truthkeeper
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Nice addition, Wallaby. Thanks.

12 Posted on 02/02/2000 07:03:53 PST by Fred Mertz
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Hehe. Good post Wallaby. Just wanted to throw on the following:

Clinton's Still Haunted By FBI Files Scandal - Links

13 Posted on 02/02/2000 07:04:56 PST by Uncle Bill
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Besides the golf & military helicopter fiasco, wasn't Kennedy the individual who was named by a woman in the '92 Clinton campaign as having sexually harrassed her, and didn't they use campaign funds to pay her off?

14 Posted on 02/02/2000 09:20:37 PST by mass55th
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Heads up to Alamo Girl.

5.56mm

15 Posted on 02/02/2000 09:26:03 PST by M Kehoe
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STATEMENT OF U.S. SENATOR ALFONSE D'AMATO, CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE WHITEWATER COMMITTEE - JUNE 18, 1996
April Breslaw, an RTC official in Kansas City, who testified that she didn't recognize her own voice on a tape trying to prompt investigator Jean Lewis into softening her conclusions.

The White House Task List
. RTC/Kansas City investigation (suspension of Jean Lewis, Richard Iorio etc.; April Breslaw; pre-1993 activity)

Majority Report Of The Special Committee To Investigate Whitewater Development Corporation And Related Matters
"The removal of Ms. Lewis from the Madison Guaranty investigation was only part of a larger pattern of interference by senior officials in the RTC's investigation. April Breslaw, a PLS attorney, was at the center of this effort. Throughout 1994, Ms. Breslaw sought to discourage RTC employees from investigating Madison Guaranty and informed RTC investigators that senior RTC officials preferred that any such investigation reach a certain outcome.

On the night of August 15, Ms. Lewis, then in the hospital, received a call from Edward Noyes, a member of the Madison investigative team, who advised her Mr. Iorio and Mr. Ausen had been placed on administrative leave.(423) Mr. Noyes told her that "the purge has begun."(424) He telephoned later to let Ms. Lewis know that she had also been placed on leave."(425)

The Fall of the Republic

16 Posted on 02/02/2000 09:44:40 PST by Uncle Bill
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Remember too, Sweet Sweet told us she lived next door to Kennedy. We contributed quite a bit to her L.R. mayoral campaign, so I think she owes us something -- intelligence, for instance. But I'd even be willing to create a Go-Next-Door-and-Snoop Fund. A pro like her can learn a lot by keeping her ears open and her mouth open.

17 Posted on 02/02/2000 12:50:52 PST by T'wit
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Good job, UB!

18 Posted on 02/02/2000 12:51:58 PST by T'wit
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April Breslaw should refund her federal salary. It's OK to be a whore as long as you do it for free, but getting paid for it is illegal.

19 Posted on 02/02/2000 13:10:06 PST by T'wit
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Cannot trust Leach to do the right thing. The CFR toad will be a cover-up artist like Starr.

20 Posted on 02/02/2000 14:03:35 PST by rangergrunt
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"April Breslaw should refund her federal salary. It's OK to be a whore as long as you do it for free, but getting paid for it is illegal."

AMEN!!!! I got angry all over again posting this! Pheeeew, I'm sick of these people!

21 Posted on 02/02/2000 15:57:37 PST by Uncle Bill
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I believe you're correct about that, and I believe it was posted in the FR archives, but I can't find it now. 8-(

Wallaby, do you have anything on Kennedy and sexual harassment? Thanks.

22 Posted on 02/02/2000 16:05:05 PST by Uncle Bill
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While looking for something else, I stumbled across this nasty little bit that I had not seen before [excerpt]:

In comparison with the states of Texas, Lousiana, Arizona, Colorado, Oklahoma and Florida, the state of Arkansas is small peanuts in the looting of American savings and loans. However, because of Whitewater, we have a possible window into a major obstruction of justice involving "well-connected" individuals and S&Ls, and the Resolution Trust Corporation.

As I mentioned above, each of the Regional S&L regulatory offices had an investigative section charged with the examination of the paper trail from failed S&Ls in an effort to uncover civil fraud and criminal fraud and to provide referrals to the Justice Department for these so that appropriate civil or criminal action could take place. The Minority Report of the Democrats picks up the story from this point:

On December 11, 1991, RTC criminal investigator L. Jean Lewis sent a memorandum to her supervisor setting forth the RTC's 1992 schedule for conducting criminal investigations of failed savings and loan institutions in Arkansas. Lewis, who had been delegated responsibility for the RTC's criminal investigations of all failed S&Ls in Arkansas, set the 1992 schedule in consultation with senior officials in the Little Rock field office of the FBI. Lewis and senior FBI officials agreed that investigations of institutions most likely to lead to meritorious criminal prosecutions should be conducted first and should be made the top priorities for the RTC's limited investigative resources.

Consistent with this approach, Lewis listed Savers Savings Association ("Savers Savings") of Little Rock and First Federal of Little Rock ("First Federal") first and third, respectively, on her December 11, 1991 priority list of failed Arkansas institutions to be investigated in 1992. Lewis and senior FBI officials viewed these two institutions as highly likely to yield meritorious prosecutions; both institutions had failed in the recent past at enormous cost to taxpayers -- Savers Savings at a cost of $650 million, First Federal at a cost of $900 million -- and both had failed amid strong indications of criminal fraud. Neither institution had been the subject of a previous criminal investigation or prosecution. In light of these factors, Lewis scheduled the RTC's criminal investigations of Savers Savings and First Federal for the first quarter of 1992.

In the same December 11, 1991 memorandum, Lewis placed Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan Association near the bottom of her priority list -- tenth out of the twelve failed Arkansas institutions to be investigated in 1992. Madison Guaranty had failed several years earlier at a far lower cost to the taxpayers -- approximately $60 million -- than Savers Savings, First Federal and the other top priority institutions. Moreover, Madison Guaranty had been the subject of an extensive federal criminal investigation in 1989-90 that had resulted in the 1990 trial and acquittal of James McDougal, the investigation's principal target. As of December 1991, the RTC and the FBI had no information indicating that any criminal activity had occurred at Madison Guaranty other than that already alleged and rejected by the jury in the 1990 McDougal trial. In light of these factors, Lewis and the FBI agreed that further investigation of Madison Guaranty should be made a low priority, and Lewis scheduled the RTC's investigation of Madison for the final quarter of 1992.

Lewis followed the agreed-upon schedule for several months. She shifted her priorities, however, following the March 8, 1992 publication of Jeff Gerth's article on the Clintons' Whitewater investment in The New York Times.

I again need to interject at this point that the Gerth article had been researched out of the law offices of Sheffield Nelson, the Republican National Committeeman for the State of Arkansas.

The Tulsa field office of the RTC, where Lewis was assigned at the time, received inquiries about the Gerth article from two senior RTC officials shortly after the article's publication. Lewis' supervisor, Richard Iorio, testified that the scope of both inquiries was strictly limited to the simple question whether there was "any truth" to Gerth's allegations; neither inquiry sought a significant investigation of Madison Guaranty or suggested that Lewis should advance the investigation of Madison Guaranty from its place near the bottom of her agreed upon 1992 list.

As discussed above, Jean Lewis and Special Agent Steve Irons agreed in late 1991, a few months before Jeff Gerth's article appeared in The New York Times -- that Savers Savings Association and First Federal were their top priorities for prompt criminal investigations and that Lewis would fully investigate these two failed Arkansas institutions during the first quarter of 1992. Over the course of the next several years, as Lewis instead focused her efforts nearly exclusively on Madison Guaranty, Irons and others at the FBI -- including officials at FBI Headquarters -- repeatedly reminded Lewis and the RTC of their strong interest in receiving timely referrals on Savers Savings and First Federal, which had failed at a cost to taxpayers of $650 million and $900 million, respectively.

The efforts of Irons and others at the FBI to get Lewis to work on Savers Savings and First Federal were unavailing. Despite the FBI's view that Savers Savings and First Federal were "believed to have much greater prosecutive potential than Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan," Lewis did not submit a referral on either institution after putting them at the top of her December 11, 1991 priority list.

In the spring of 1995, based on the work of an investigator other than Lewis, the RTC finally submitted a criminal referral arising from the failure of First Federal of Little Rock. So much time had passed, however, that the FBI and the United States Attorneys Office were unable to act on the referral. The statute of limitations had expired on most of the allegations contained in the referral, and the documents necessary to the investigation of the few remaining claims had been dispersed throughout the country when the RTC sold off the institution's assets.

Q26 -- Why did no one in the FBI or the Justice Department consider the possibility of an obstruction of justice in the delay in investigating the First Federal, Savers Saving and the other nine S&Ls in Arkansas from 1992 to 1995?

Q27 -- Who in the "Clinton" FBI made the decision not to prosecute the First Federal case in 1995?

In their Minority Report on Whitewater, the Democratic Senators were attempting to discredit the actions of L. Jean Lewis, a principal player in the Whitewater Scandal. However, if the records of the investigative section led by Lewis for the years 1992 through 1994 are examined for the top twelve failed S&Ls in Arkansas, something much more significant is shown:

Evidently the investigation started out examining the top six failed S&Ls (and four of the small fry) in Arkansas in the beginning of 1992, and the clock STARTED TICKING on the three-year STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. Thereafter ALMOST ALL of the investigative effort was directed at Madison Guaranty and First Savings of Paragould. In 1993, the first year of the Clinton presidency, the top targets were again Madison Guaranty and First Savings of Paragould with Savers Savings being investigated for 105 hours. In 1994, the second year of the Clinton administration, Madison Guaranty consumed the bulk of the investigative time, with the Arkansas Federal Savings Bank (loss: $16 million) being investigated for 249 hours.

Excluding Madison Guaranty, we should note that in 1994, the other top eleven failed S&Ls in Arkansas were only examined for a total of 14 hours. From this it is possible to infer that the hours spent in the Madison Guaranty investigation "saved" the other failed S&Ls in Arkansas from investigation.

We know from the Minority Report that when First Federal was finally investigated in early 1995, three years after it should have been investigated, a criminal referral was finally submitted. But, as in the case of Mainland in Texas, the statute of limitations had run out. How fortunate for Mainland. First Federal, Savers Savings, Independence Federal, Landmark, and all of the other failed S&Ls that were given a free pass.

It is difficult to understand how an RTC investigative program initially established in December 1991 and correctly pointed at the largest failed S&Ls in Arkansas was turned around in early 1992 and pointed directly and exclusively at Madison Guaranty and a number of much smaller S&Ls..."

Have we been fishing for Marlin only to end up chasing Clinton Trouser Trout?

23 Posted on 02/02/2000 17:03:33 PST by Boyd
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Good One;-) Wait 'til the "Invisible Banks" scam takes the rest of the artificial economy down.

24 Posted on 02/02/2000 17:26:44 PST by NDCORUP
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Oh, I forgot. The Statute of Limitations isn't close enough yet. Maybe Next Year.

25 Posted on 02/02/2000 17:28:38 PST by NDCORUP
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The media asserted that the looting of S&Ls in Arkansas was much too complicated to cover. However, they had no trouble explaining the same kind of S&L scam by Charles Keating (a Republican).

26 Posted on 02/02/2000 17:31:50 PST by T'wit
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Very interesting.
What is the source of that piece?

27 Posted on 02/02/2000 17:35:28 PST by metalbird1
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Ya know, a boil can only swell so far before it bursts on its own and self-destructs; unless of course a doctor lances it. But I have yet to see anyone that has the b*lls to lance this putrid, 7 year-old boil. Are they waiting for "us" to do it?

28 Posted on 02/02/2000 17:40:16 PST by seadevil
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Yes, that's the game, setting up the defenders against the feds--while the elitists wait in their bunkers for the cinders to grow cold after the Chinese and Russian sappers have finished their cleanup work.

Why do you think we are prodded with transparent school and religious organization shootings, stings gone wrong [WTC & OKC], and outrages against religious freedom--legislatively, socially and violently--and more?

29 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:00:09 PST by metalbird1
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source.

As you'll see, there are more assertions, but the chart is what jumped out at me.

30 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:10:15 PST by Boyd
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It aint over till its over---Robert Ray.

31 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:14:12 PST by prognostigaator
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Marked. Thanks.
Any of you all have at arm's length links to any of Brewton's pieces on the S&L debacle?

32 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:21:18 PST by metalbird1
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I only stated my belief of the game as I see it.
I didn't say that it would play out that way.
Sometimes stating it in turn pre-empts it.

33 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:26:11 PST by metalbird1
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This'll keep you busy --- Here

34 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:30:43 PST by NDCORUP
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Wes has the book and has read it. I don't have it. I have to depend on the Web postings.

From what I understand of the book, it is tough to follow because the nefarious webs spread in numerous directions.
But, these are smart people, so you would expect that.

35 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:31:17 PST by Boyd
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Where can I find the resume of the guy that replaced (for a while at least) Adm. Boorda?

36 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:33:48 PST by Askel5
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Toss some softballs every now and then.

High, hard heat makes you squint too often.

[Just kidding. Tough question. I don't know, but I'll go look.]

37 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:36:37 PST by Boyd
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When you get the chance or if you think of somewhere I can go. Like I explained to another earlier today ... still sort of flatfoot myself.

38 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:39:46 PST by Askel5
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Prior to the book I believe he ran a series of stories in a Houston paper, which I seem to recollect was cutting edge at the time in connecting the CIA to the S&L's.

39 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:41:22 PST by metalbird1
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James Webb?

40 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:49:27 PST by Boyd
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Your memory is excellent. And 'they' took after him with a vengance. Gary Webb-ish.

41 Posted on 02/02/2000 18:55:56 PST by Boyd
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Have we been fishing for Marlin only to end up chasing Clinton Trouser Trout?

Forgot to thank you for this line as well ...

Webb doesn't look quite right. Your dates are helpful, though -- I'll head to W/W files.

42 Posted on 02/02/2000 19:06:22 PST by Askel5
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Are you saying it's your belief there was an acting chief of naval operations after Boorda?

43 Posted on 02/02/2000 19:20:51 PST by metalbird1
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Check your mail.

44 Posted on 02/02/2000 19:26:30 PST by Boyd
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I'm just looking for the guy from Texas they were (perhaps just) talking about at the time. I remember railing about some strictly private sector pick for a replacement in my old "DiaTribe".

45 Posted on 02/02/2000 19:30:34 PST by Askel5
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Good post Boyd. Do you have a link, date and source so we can keep it here with your post? Jackson Stephens had a great deal to do with "what" and "when" institutions are investigated and "who" would conduct them, I believe. Especially the ones who had documentation exposure with regards to money laundering via cocaine trafficking. Many institutions had dealings with ADFA. ADFA was many things, but as we know, it was an instrument to make drug trafficking cash clean as baby's skin.

Until 1989, ADFA never banked in Arkansas. We know money from drug trafficking was transferred to Florida, a bank in Florida which later would be connected to BCCI. Then they would ship money to an Atlanta bank also connected to BCCI, or a bank in Chicago(partially owned by Dan Rostenkowski) and also connected to BCCI, and then off to Citicorp in New York, which would send the money overseas. Dan Lasater would get the bonds. He would become the broker for the bonds and would transfer money back to ADFA. He never sold a bond. The money would leave ADFA, and go into one of the banks for the specific bond loan, and they would zero it out. When they zeroed it out they were giving it back to Lasater less their handling fees. Pretty cool, stroke of the pen. I mention this because ADFA was also used as a great campaign finance machine and many knew what was going on.

Anyone who didn't obey, well, we won't be able to talk with them.

Stanley Huggins - Partner in a Memphis Law Firm. Early Investigator into Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan. Reported to have succumbed to viral pneumonia in Delaware. His 300 page report has never been released.

Jon Parnell Walker - RTC investigator who fell(i.e. read thrown off) from a balcony of apartment that was a frequent getaway spot for Vince Foster.

John Wilson - A former Washington DC Council member who had much information regarding Whitewater, banking and many other specific details regarding the RTC, Madison involvments and was putting the word out that he wanted to talk. The guy decided to commit suicide one day, during this time, and hung himself.

Jim Wilhite - Jim was vice chairman of Arkla, Inc. and was a close friend and business associate of Mack McLarty. McLarty had extensive participation and information regarding the banking scandals, corruption, etc. McLarty was rewarded, Wilhite was not. He suffered fatal head injuries when he hit a tree on Snowmass Mountain while skiing in Aspen. (If Kennedy and Bono only knew)

John Hillyer - NBC Cameraman and investigator. Was bringing facts forward concerning Mena, ADFA, Whitewater. Dead.

Johnny Franklin Lawhon, Jr. - Died March 29, 1998. In the spring of 1997, a tornado ripped through some junked cars at Johnny's transmission and opened up the trunk of a car that proved to have a box of Whitewater records in it, including a copy of a $27,000 cashiers check drawn on Madison and payable to Bill Clinton. Johnny Franklin Lawhon, Jr. realized what he was looking at and turned the box of documents over to the FBI.

According to police, Lawhon and a friend hit a telephone pole at a high rate of speed after their car had become airborne and left the road. They had driven less than 1/4 of a mile at the time of the impact.

Jim McDougal - Died March 8, 1998.Jim McDougal was serving his 3 year sentence for bank fraud at the Fort Worth Federal Medical Center in Texas, a facility operated by the federal Bureau of Prisons for inmates who need medical attention.

Just prior to another round of testimony before Kenneth Starr's grand jury, and while the reporters who were covering that story were two hours away covering a standoff situation in Waco that just "went away", Jim McDougal suffered a heart attack while in solitary confinement, which may have been brought on by the diuretics forced on him. Left alone for too long, when Jim McDougal was taken out of solitary, instead of attempting to defibrillate his heart with equipment on hand at the facility, he was driven over to John Peter Smith hospital. Not the closest hospital to the Fort Worth Federal Medical Center, John Peter Smith hospital is a welfare hospital, where (in the words of one local) ,"They let interns practice on deadbeats".

The single most damning fact to come out of the McDougal death was his injection with Lasix, a diuretic, to force his giving a urine sample for drug testing, even though McDougal was not a known drug case, and Lasix is contra-indicated in cases of heart disease. Lasix can cause excessive diuresis, blood volume reduction, circulatory collapse, and vascular thrombosis, or blood clots. If a matching potassium supplement is not administered at the same time, Lasix can kill.

McDougal may have been taking the heart medication Digitalin (foxglove) which cannot be combined with Lasix.

Several inmates had gone public with the claim that McDougal was given a heavy injection of Lasix right after he ate lunch, but the prison system has refused to allow those prisoners to be interviewed or to release McDougal's medical records.

Neil Moody - Died Aug. 25, 1996. Following Vincent Foster's murder, Lisa Foster married James Moody, a judge in Arkansas, on Jan 1, 1996.

Near the time Susan McDougal first went to jail for contempt, Neil died in a car crash. There were other reports that Neil Moody had discovered something very unsettling among his stepmother's private papers and was threatening to go public with it just prior to the beginning of the Democratic National Convention. He was alleged to have been talking to Bob Woodward of the Washington Post about a blockbuster story. Witnesses said they saw Neil Moody sitting in his car arguing with another person just prior to HIS CAR SUDDENLY SPEEDING OFF OUT OF CONTROL AND HITTING A BRICK WALL.

C. Victor Raiser II - Raiser had the inside scoop. He was Clinton's national finance co-chairman of the Clinton for President Campaign. He was also a past national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Raiser and his son were killed 7-30-92 in a plane crash near Dillingham, Alaska.

Paul Tully - Tully was the Democratic National Committee Political Director and architect of a strategy to make the Democratic party competitive in presidential elections. Tully was found dead in his hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas. Death was determined as "unknown causes." No autopsy was ever conducted.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser. Died: 3/1/94 - Killed when his plane exploded. Cause unknown.

Ron Miller - Witness - Died October 12th 1997. Ron Miller, investigated by authorities over the sale of his company, Gage Corp. to Dynamic Energy Resources, Inc. was the man who tape recorded Gene and Nora Lum and turned those tapes (and other records) over to congressional oversight investigators. The Lums were sentenced to prison for campaign finance violations, using "straw donors" to conceal the size of their contributions to various candidates. Indeed, Dynamic Energy Resources, Inc. had hired Ron Brown's son Michael solely for the purpose of funneling $60,000 through him to the Commerce Secretary, according to Nolanda Hill's testimony.

Reportedly a healthy man, Ron suddenly took ill on October 3rd, and steadily worsened until his death 9 days later. (This pattern fits Ricin poisoning.) Owing to the strangeness of the illness, doctors at the Integris Baptist Medical Center referred the matter to the Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office.

The Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office promptly ran tests on samples of Ron Miller's blood, but has refused to release the results or even to confirm that the tests were ever completed.

Ed Willey - A real estate attorney and Clinton fundraiser. Died of a gunshot blast to the head. His body was found deep in the woods in Virginia. Ruled a suicide, no note was found. Died on the same day his wife, Kathleen Willey, was sexually assaulted in the White House by Bill Clinton. He was intimately involved in several Clinton fund raisers.

Gandy Baugh - An attorney representing Dan Lasater in a case involving alleged financial misconduct. He died in an alleged suicide by jumping out a window of a multi-story building. Baugh's law partner was "suicided" one month later on 2-9-94.

Paul Olson - A Federal witness in investigations to drug money corruption in Chicago politics, Paul had just finished 2 days of FBI interviews when his plane ride home crashed, killing Paul and 130 others on Sept 8 1994. The Sept. 15, 1994 Tempe Tribune newspaper reported that the FBI suspected that a bomb had brought down the airplane.

Paul Wilcher - Washington attorney investigating government corruption. Wilcher investigated many things including Whitewater, ADFA, Mena drug trafficking, Waco and other elements. He was found, partly decomposed, sitting on a toilet in his Capitol Hill apartment on June 22, 1993, in Washington D.C. The cause of death was undetermined.
PAUL WILCHER - The Deadly Pursuit Of The Truth

Danny Casolaro - Reporter investigating Whitewater, Mena, BCCI and ADFA. Found in a bath tub with his wrists cut. Murder In A Martinsburg Sheraton

BEATEN WITNESSES

Dennis Patrick - Court clerk. Had millions of dollars laundered through his account at Lasater & Co without his knowledge. Four attempts on his life.

L.J. Davis - Reporter investigating Clinton scandals including the Rose Law Firm, Whitewater, ADFA, Madison, Worthen Bank, etc. Attacked at his hotel room in Little Rock. His notes were stolen.

Larry Nichols - Former official at ADFA and author of "The Clinton Chronicles." The man who broke many of the Clinton scandal stories. Several attempts on his life.

The Fall of the Republic

46 Posted on 02/02/2000 20:00:25 PST by Uncle Bill
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See response to Metalbird1 [above] for link. There are a number of interesting revelations in there.

'How 'bout them Cowboys?'

47 Posted on 02/02/2000 20:06:41 PST by Boyd
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Sheeple response, "Oh yeah. Whitewater. Madison Guaranty. They never found anything wrong there. Time to go back to watching NYPD Blue..."

48 Posted on 02/02/2000 20:13:31 PST by MadAsHell
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Hehe. Nixon was an angel, a choir boy, compared to these people. Really, Watergate almost makes me laugh now.

49 Posted on 02/02/2000 20:23:31 PST by Uncle Bill
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Who's got the power?

Alfred Baldwin: Lookout at the Watergate. Turned state's evidence.

Bernard Barker: Led the Cuban-American break-in teams at the Watergate and at Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office. Served 12 months in jail.

Dwight Chapin: Nixon's appointments secretary, 1969-72; served eight months in jail.

Charles Colson: Special White House counsel, 1969-73. Found guilty of obstruction of justice; served seven months in jail.

John Dean III: White House counsel, 1970-73. Turned whistleblower. Served four months in jail.

John Ehrlichman: Chief domestic policy adviser to the president. Found guilty of conspiring to obstruct justice; served 18 months in jail.

Virgilio Gonzalez: Lockpick of the Watergate break-in team. Served 15 months in jail.

H.R. Haldeman: White House chief of staff, 1973-74. Served 18 months in jail.

E. Howard Hunt Jr.: CIA veteran; White House consultant; member of the White House Special Investigations Unit know as the "Plumbers"; recruited the burglars; member of the Watergate break-in team and of the team that broke into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist. Served 33 months in jail.

Herbert Kalmbach: Nixon's personal lawyer; raised hush money. Served six months in jail.

Richard Kleindienst: Attorney general, 1972-73. Received a suspended one-month sentence.

Egil (Bud) Krogh Jr.: John Ehrlichman's deputy; White House Plumber. Served four and a half months in jail.

Frederick LaRue: Chief adviser to John Mitchell. Served five and a half months in jail.

G. Gordon Liddy: White House Plumber; counsel to Nixon's re-election committee; architect of break-ins into the Watergate and Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office and head of the White House "dirty tricks" operation. Refused to cooperate with prosecutors; served 52 months in jail.

Jeb Stuart Magruder: Deputy director of the 1972 re-election campaign. Guilty of obstruction of justice; served seven months in jail.

Eugenio Rolando Martinez: Member of the Watergate and Ellsberg psychiatrist break-in teams. Served 15 months in jail.

James McCord Jr.: Longtime CIA officer; one of the Watergate burglars; wrote a letter implicating higher-ups. Served four months in jail.

John Mitchell: Attorney general, 1969-72; head of Nixon's 1972 re-election campaign. Served 19 months in jail.

Richard Nixon: President, 1969-74. Pardoned.

Herbert (Bart) Porter: Assistant to Jeb Stuart Magruder. Served 30 days in jail.

Donald Segretti: Nixon campaign dirty trickster. Served 4.5 months in jail.

Maurice Stans: Secretary of Commerce 1969-72; finance chairman of Nixon's re-election committee. Fined $150,000.

Frank Sturgis: Member of the Watergate break-in team. Served 13 months in jail.

Anthony Ulasewicz: Private eye for the White House; former New York cop; made hush money drops. One year on probation for failing to declare expenses for income tax.

David Young: Aide to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, 1969-71. White House Plumber. Granted immunity from prosecution in return for testimony on the break-in into Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office.

50 Posted on 02/02/2000 20:36:02 PST by Uncle Bill
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Yeah, and I'm really sick of these people too.

The problem is how to explain all of this to the people in my contact circle in 25 words or less so they get the picture about who to vote for in the primary (Keyes) before it's too late!!!!!!

51 Posted on 02/02/2000 20:51:48 PST by MadAsHell
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Re: your last list of Nixon accomplices. (#50)
These cases appear to be examples of "dishonor before death"

52 Posted on 02/03/2000 00:29:49 PST by prognostigaator
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Mass/Unc: think the helio/golfer/harrasser you refer to would be david watkins.

T'wit: the "kennedy" sweet sweet referred to was not bill, but another "enforcer" w/ same last name, who was attempting to put the lid on connie's allegations of cover up/ rewards/ promotions for the arm twisters.

p.s. remember bill kennedy's family was one of the 1st to benefit from an ADFA loan.......right after seth ward & co.

53 Posted on 02/03/2000 05:28:03 PST by thinden
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<< strictly private sector pick >>

Trying saying THAT ten times fast.

54 Posted on 02/03/2000 09:01:32 PST by T'wit
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>Mass/Unc: think the helio/golfer/harrasser you refer to would be david watkins.

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Remember David Watkins?

Part A; COMMENTARY; EDITORIALS; Pg. A24 The Washington Times December 19, 1994, Monday, Final Edition

David Watkins is back in the news. Again, his activities shine the worst possible light on his old pal Bill Clinton's political operations.

Mr. Watkins, a childhood friend of the president, first hit the front pages for his involvement in the White House Travel Office affair, the aim of which was to give Mr. Clintons' cousin the directorship of the office, and to send travel business to Mr. Clinton's crony Harry Thomason and to a Little Rock travel agency Mr. Watkins himself had close ties to.

It seems the Clinton presidential campaign spent $37,500 to pay off a worker who accused Mr. Watkins of sexual harassment.

Then there was the helicopter outing that cost Mr. Watkins his White House job. He took a presidential helicopter for a golf jaunt to a Maryland country club - and got caught by a local news photographer.

It now transpires that Mr. Watkins was causing trouble even before the election. It seems the Clinton presidential campaign spent $37,500 to pay off a worker who accused Mr. Watkins of sexual harassment. Mr. Watkins was director of administration for the campaign and his accuser an accountant also working for Mr. Clinton's election. The details of the case may never know because strict confidentiality was part of the settlement agreement. But we do know that an accusation of sexual harassment was the last thing the Clinton campaign needed, for obvious reasons.

The payment turned up during a Federal Election Commission audit of the campaign. The harassment incident became an issue in the audit because FEC officials concluded that the expenditure was largely undocumented - and thus, subject to possible refund. It was noted in campaign records as a payment to "Kathlyn Graves, Escrow Agent." Kathlyn Graves turns out to be a lawyer in the Little Rock firm Wright, Lindsey, Jennings (former home of White House adviser Bruce Lindsey). Ms. Graves, by her own account, had the job of handing the money to the complainant. (In completing the audit Thursday, by the way, the FEC deadlocked along party lines - and thus rejected - a recommendation that the Clinton campaign repay $3.44 million in federal campaign funds to which FEC auditors concluded it was not entitled. Through other decisions the panel made, the repayment figure is likely to be between $1 million and $2 million.)

Campaign workers had attempted to camouflage the $37,500 as payment for consulting services, but without documentation it stood out like a sore thumb to the auditors. Of course, the Clinton camp assures us that there was no basis for the sexual harassment complaint. (Where have we heard that before?) And, of course, Mr. Clinton's spin doctors are busily insisting that he just had no idea there had been any such difficulty when Mr. Watkins was hired after the election as assistant to the president for management and administration.

That's pretty hard to believe. What is not so hard to believe, unfortunately, is the fact that Clinton campaign officials felt it was acceptable to use American taxpayers' matching fund money to get David Watkins - and Bill Clinton - out of an embarrassing situation.

55 Posted on 02/03/2000 14:16:07 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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S&L fraud suspect found dead; Suicide possible in Corson case JENNIFER LIEBRUM, LYNWOOD ABRAM, JERRY URBAN; Staff The Houston Chronicle; A; Pg. 35 November 5, 1992, Thursday, 2 STAR Edition Former Houston developer Robert Louis Corson, described as one of the Justice Department's top 10 targets for prosecution of suspected savings-and-loan fraud, was found dead in an El Paso motel room Wednesday of an apparent drug overdose. "The people around him will fight to create that image that he was a beaten man," Craig said, "but I know there are a lot of people who wanted Robert L. Corson dead." Corson, 45, who apparently moved to a Phoenix suburb after being indicted here last year, was en route to Houston to face charges that include conspiracy, money laundering and misapplication of funds. His attorney, Jose Gonzalez-Falla, said Corson was depressed about returning for a Nov. 23 appearance with his mother, Billie Jean Garman, and business associate Billy W. Chester before U.S. District Judge David M. Hittner. Federal prosecutors have said they believe Corson's 1986 purchase of Vision Banc Savings Association of Kingsville triggered a series of illegal loans totaling more than $ 29 million. A 23-count indictment charged Corson, Garman and Chester with pocketing more than $ 8 million from those loans to pay off real estate deals and other debts, including Garman's gambling debts. At the time of the indictment, U.S.Attorney Ron Woods said the Vision Banc prosecution was ""one of the Top 10'' on the U.S. Justice Department's ""Top 100'' list of thrifts in which massive fraud was suspected of playing a major role in their collapse. If convicted on all counts, Corson faced up to 135 years in prison and $ 4.5 million in fines. A maid at the La Quinta in west El Paso found Corson unconscious in his room just after noon, El Paso Police Sgt. Jerry Ybarra said. His body was surrounded by several bottles emptied of undisclosed types of pills, police said. He was declared dead about an hour later at an El Paso hospital. No suicide note was found. Police would not say whether they suspect the apparent overdose was accidental or suicide. But Ybarra said foul play had been ruled out, and it appeared Corson was alone. Corson was last heard from about 8 p.m. Tuesday night when he called his son in Houston, Ybarra said.

But a retired private investigator who has been doing research into Corson and his alleged exploits urged El Paso authorities not to rule out murder before declaring the death a suicide. ""He does not fit the profile of a person who commits suicide,'' former private eye John R.Craig said. ""This is a cold-blooded survivor. And what was he faced with? A few years in jail, some fines. He was young. ""The people around him will fight to create that image that he was a beaten man,'' Craig said, ""but I know there are a lot of people who wanted Robert L. Corson dead. '' Craig claimed Corson had turned government informant and was helping prosecutors explore other savings-and-loan debacles, which was leading to players in the Iran-Contra affair and narcotics traffickers. Corson was ""trying to work out a deal for himself,'' Craig said. ""You wouldn't believe who is on the list of people he could inform on. '' Corson's attorney said his client's despondency was compounded by publication of ""The Mafia, CIA & George Bush,'' a book by a former Houston Post reporter that associates him with the Central Intelligence Agency and indirectly with organized crime activity. But author Pete Brewton suggested that if publicity had driven Corson to take his own life, it was two years late, because his newspaper ran most of the same information two years before the book's publication. ""He didn't seem very despondent then,'' Brewton said. Corson had been out of jail on a $ 50,000 unsecured personal recognizance bond and living most recently in Paradise Valley, Ariz. His court-appointed attorney, Gonzalez-Falla, said he expected to meet with Corson on Friday for a pretrial conference in preparation for trial. Corson and Garman, who controlled Vision Banc's three-person loan committee, allegedly approved four loans in June 1986 totaling $ 20.4 million to ""straw borrowers'' -- loan customers who sign loan papers but have no intention of paying back the proceeds. About $ 15 million allegedly went to former Houston developer William Michael Adkinson and others who were accused of using a maze of corporations to fraudulently finance the purchase of a 21,000-acre undeveloped strip along the Florida Gulf Coast. A Florida indictment alleged that the defendants overstated purchase prices and fees on loan applications to Vision Banc and Hill Financial Services of Red Hill, Pa., secured title to the property without any liens and resold it to others, including the state of Florida, at inflated prices. A second deal allegedly involved a May 1986 loan for $ 5.9 million ostensibly for a 138-acre Fort Worth development called Southfield Joint Venture I.Almost $ 800,000 of that loan was allegedly siphoned off to Corson, Garman and Chester.

56 Posted on 02/03/2000 20:44:14 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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> the "kennedy" sweet sweet referred to was not bill,

OK, thanks for the correction. I caught it wrong. Bet I got it right that she said, "I may be a **** but I'm not a liar!"

57 Posted on 02/03/2000 20:55:22 PST by T'wit
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SIGNS POINT TO MOB INVOLVEMENT IN SAVINGS-AND-LOAN MESS Jonathan Kwitny EDITORIAL; SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER September 12, 1990, Wednesday , FINAL Attorney General Dick Thornburgh and the FBI both say they have no evidence of any large-scale involvement of organized crime in the savings-and-loan disaster. But how would they know? From what the FBI told me it never took the first logical step to find out. The same goes for evidence now coming from The Houston Post of looting by at least some people with CIA affiliations. The government says there's no big problem, but apparently nobody with subpoena power has bothered looking. Back in 1987 I was contacted by two California reporters, Steve Pizzo and Mary Fricker, who were looking into a rash of failures in the savings industry. They had found footprints of mobsters I had written about in years past. I was getting similar calls from a Texas legislator. Among other things some mob-connected companies had persuaded many savings institutions to accept large deposits on the condition that much of that money would be lent to pre-specified borrowers. These big loans generally would have been forbidden at federally insured S&L's before deregulation. One glaring example of these deposits-for-loans dealers was Mario Renda, a Long Island man whose office was staffed by a Teamster official and a muscular gunman from - police said - the Lucchese Mafia family. Renda's scheme was hatched at meetings at the Teamster-funded La Costa resort in California and in a Las Vegas suite provided by Morris Shenker, a big Teamster moneyman and the late Jimmy Hoffa's lawyer. Renda sent agents, including convicted criminals, around the country luring growth-mad thrift executives into shady deals, eventually brokering $6 billion in deposits at 3,500 institutions. Some of Renda's "borrowers" were members of the Civella Mafia family, based in Kansas City, a family that helped control Las Vegas and the Teamsters. The loans were regularly rolled over, including interest, instead of being repaid.

Other bad-news borrowers had ties to Carlos Marcello's Mafia family, which at the time of President Kennedy's assassination employed Jack Ruby and friends and relatives of Lee Oswald, and also has been tight with the Teamsters. In Florida Renda worked with Michael Rapp, whose name - before he was in federal witness protection program - was Michael Hellerman. Hellerman had worked for the John "Johnny Dio" Dioguardi, a Lucchese family captain, who used payoffs, extortion and murder to create illegal cartels in the food, clothing, trucking and securities industries. Indicted in three federal districts, Mario Renda was allowed to cop a plea for five years in prison and restitution of a paltry $10 million, without incriminating any big-fish borrowers. Surely, the FBI should have immediately traced every loan Renda arranged at every institution he dealt with. They should have followed the money trail to whatever assets can be located. The same tactics should then have been applied to other suspicious loans. But the FBI apparently didn't do that. An agency spokesman in Washington says if any agents looked into the loans they would have been in the New York office. That office says it just sent leads on Renda to other FBI offices around the country. This is amazing. This is our money. Why doesn't the FBI hire agents to trace those unrepaid loans and try to get our money back? Obviously, a lot of S&L money was grabbed by crooks other than those in the Mafia. But it is unacceptable not even to know who the crooks were. Last fall Pizzo, Fricker and another reporter, Paul Muolo, published their findings in a book that is now on the best-seller list. How can the attorney general continue to ignore the evidence? Thornburgh isn't keen on outside commissions or congressional committees butting in, but somebody has to subpoena the records and trace our cash. Instead of finding the loot or reimposing conservative lending standards on federally insured fiduciaries, the administration wants to cut back on deposit insurance itself. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. was the government's gift to the ordinary depositor who simply wants to keep ahead of inflation and protect his savings. Instead, it's the cheats who are getting protected. Jonathan Kwitny is a free-lance journalist and formerly the host of "The Kwitny Report" on PBS. Copyright 1990 The New York Times.

58 Posted on 02/03/2000 20:57:46 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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Yep. Good catch.
While not surprising Brewton's series connecting the CIA to the S&L's didn't especially make news elsewhere around the Country, it was surprising that a major paper would publish it.

59 Posted on 02/03/2000 21:05:40 PST by metalbird1
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Bump...to the criminals of the WH....

60 Posted on 02/03/2000 21:15:35 PST by shield
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Dang, I don't remember this one at all. But the "M.O." is identical to Whitewater and all the rest.

One of these days we should go dig out the origin of all of these scams, which I believe was a bit of Midnight Legislation by Fernand St. Germain. He was a committee chairman (Banking?), which in those days of total, corrupt and seemingly unending Democratic control of the House, was one rank higher than God. What he did was change a bill on his own in the night so that Congress passed it without ever knowing about the change. This was c. 1980 or 81, I believe. His provision quadrupled the federal guarantee of Savings & Loan accounts, from $25,000 to $100,000.

That may sound innocent, but it turned the conservative S&L industry into a free-wheeling racket. It gave S&Ls, at once, far more investable funds, and in effect guaranteed their loans. It didn't take long before the Corsons, McDougals and Keatings were buying up little S&Ls, making uncollectable loans to all their friends, and speculating in wild real estate deals. Ultimately the damage was up in the hundreds of billions, and we, the taxpayers, got stuck for it.

I heard somewhere that St. Germain got his piece and retired rich. But all of this is old and dusty memory, subject to correction.

61 Posted on 02/03/2000 21:33:20 PST by T'wit
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#58 had not been posted when I wrote my comments to #56. Are we onto something here or what?

62 Posted on 02/03/2000 21:36:59 PST by T'wit
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> Instead of finding the loot or reimposing conservative lending standards on federally insured fiduciaries, the administration wants to cut back on deposit insurance itself.

...which is exactly the way to stop the fraud. Kwitny apparently didn't figure out how the racket works. Reduced -- or zero! -- deposit guarantees ARE the conservative lending standard. Without those federal guarantees, the S&Ls don't dare throw their depositors' money at hare-brained real estate schemes and Good Ol' Boy loans.

63 Posted on 02/03/2000 21:53:59 PST by T'wit
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INTRODUCTIONThe Mafia, CIA and George Bush Pete Brewton (New York: S.P.I. Books, 1992) Something very significant happened during our country's savings-and-loan crisis, the greatest financial disaster since the Great Depression. It happened quietly, secretly, without any fanfare and attention. It happened before our very eyes, yet we knew it not. What we all missed was the massive transfer of wealth from the American taxpayers to a select group of extremely rich, powerful people. What these people had in common -- unknown to the American public -- were their symbiotic relationships to the Mafia and the CIA, and to the two most prominent, powerful politicians from Texas, President George Bush and Senator Lloyd Bentsen. This small cabal of businessmen realized that the S&Ls were going the way of the dinosaurs. They recognized that S&Ls couldn't survive under rapid inflation and high interest rates. So they decided to exploit the situation for their own purposes, with help from, and rewards for, the Mafia, the CIA and their favorite politicians. They probably figured that the insulation and protection these powerful institutions and individuals conferred upon them, in addition to all the endemic protections with the financial, judicial, political and journalistic systems, made them invulnerable. They were probably right. For unlike Watergate and Iran-Contra, this was a bipartisan scandal. There was no opposition party to push for an independent investigation. In fact, the same group of wealthy, powerful businessmen, centered in Houston, that encircle Republicans like George Bush and James A. Baker III, also encircle Democrats like Jim Wright and Lloyd Bentsen. This information enables one to view the 1988 elections, in which not one cross word was ever spoken about the savings-and-loan debacle, in a whole new perspective. It was not merely a fortuitous coincidence that both Bush, the Republican nominee for President, and Bentsen, the Democratic nominee for Vice President, were part of, and beholden to, the same group of Houston businessmen. Even if the Democrats lost that presidential election, as they did, Bentsen could still win re-election to his Senate seat under the so-called "LBJ rule." The Houston boys, as usual, had their bets covered. (If the Democrats had won in 1988, this book would be entitled "The Mafia, the CIA and Lloyd Bentsen," for Bentsen and Bush are two interchangeable peas in a pod. They have many friends, business associates and campaign donors in common. The story of the most important one they share begins this book.) But Bush won in 1988, and one of the reasons he did was his ability to keep the S&L scandal out of the political debate. He was assisted in this by none other than Bentsen, as we shall see. They both had much to hid, Bush in particular. Not only were many of the President-to-be's friends involved -- along with two of his sons -- but Bush himself, as Vice President, had personally intervened int he federal regulation of a dirty Florida savings and loan that was being looted by people with connections to the Mafia and the CIA. This S&L ultimately failed, costing taxpayers nearly $700 million. The S&L scandal is the vehicle for telling the story about these leading American politicians and businessmen. But the relationships between these individuals and how they control and manipulate public and private institutions is the bigger story. Unless we know who these people are and understand how they operate, we can all look forward to more S&L-type debacles to come. The S&L scandal was almost the perfect crime. The layers of protection and insulation between what the public discovered was going on at the savings and loans and what actually happened with the money were so many and so thick that the crimes and theft would never be completely figured out. And even if the truth were ultimately unearthed, there were additional layers between that revelation and the bringing of those responsible to the bar of justice and recovering the money. The first and foremost layer of protection is the difficulty in tracking the money from the savings and loans to its ultimate destination. That is why almost no FBI agent, federal prosecutor, S&L regulator, congressional committee or journalist has been able to track the money. Yet where the money went is really the only thing that matters. The rest of the "facts" that, typically, got investigated, prosecuted and written about were mostly smoke and mirrors, set up to shield who really got the hundreds of billions of dollars that taxpayers must pay back and to hide what the money was used for.[1] ----- [1]--A notable exception is the book Inside Job, by Stephen Pizzo, Mary Fricker and Paul Muolo, which nailed down the fact that the savings-and-loan debacle was caused primarily by fraud. ---- The five years that went into this book represent my efforts to peel back all the layers of insulation and protection to get to the real culprits. I have organized this book with that process in mind, to help the reader understand a complicated and confusing subject. In general, the bulk of the money lost in the S&L crisis that American citizens must now pay for went to the owners of the property and assets that the more notorious borrowers purchased with money from S&Ls run by equally infamous owners. This seems to be obvious, yet it somehow got lost in all the hype and hysteria. While Congress, the Justice Department and the press concentrated on the flamboyant borrowers and managers of the S&Ls, the big recipients of the money -- the wealthy, powerful landowners and property owners -- crept off quietly with their profits. In the second half of this book, a number of examples will be detailed to show how this happened, and who got the money. For example, one later chapter deals with a $200 million, 21,000-acre land transaction in Florida in which much of the borrowed S&L money went to a paper company owned by the Du Pont empire, one of the oldest, richest, most powerful bastions of wealth in this country. We know this because many of the lending documents were pursued by a lone, shrewd, tenacious federal regulator named Kenneth Cureton. However, the unraveling of this transaction was a rare and exceptional event. But even it could not be called a complete victory. The Department of Justice's International Division, the government body through which subpoenas to offshore banks must pass, inexplicably became a brick wall for Cureton's efforts to obtain records on the Isle of Jersey in the English Channel, where a big chunk of the money went -- possibly to buy weapons for Iraq. Since so many of the crucial documents in this scandal are not available, we are left with the second-best avenue of investigation: finding out who the original property owners were and everything we can about them, and then doing the same thing for the S&L proprietors and borrowers. The bulk of this book consists of that enterprise. The evidence uncovered is clear, convincing, and compelling: Members and associates of the Mafia and the United States Central Intelligence Agency were key participants in our nation's savings-and-loan debacle, and some of the richest, most powerful people in the country did business with these participants and profited from the S&L crisis. That members of the Mafia and the CIA, two organizations that operate in secrecy and whose members take sacred oaths -- one supposedly dedicated to national security, the other simply to their organizations' security -- may have been working together is not unprecedented in this country. But that fact doesn't make their cooperation any less outrageous.

It is well known that members of the Mafia and the CIA conspired to try to assassinate Fidel Castro. There are other, less substantiated, although credible, allegations regarding the two groups' involvement together in drug smuggling and money laundering in Southeast Asia, Australia and the Caribbean.[2] ---- [2]--The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia, by Alfred W. McCoy (New York: Harper and Row, 1972); The Crimes of Patriots, by Jonathan Kwimy (New York: Norton, 1987); and In Banks We Trust, by Penny Lernoux (Penguin Books, 1986). ---- There are also some curious, ominous connections between members of these groups and JFK-assassination figures Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby. Drawing a straight, direct line from the CIA operatives discussed in this book to the top officials of the CIA and on to the President is extremely difficult because of the way the CIA works. Most of the characters in this book are not the card-carrying bureaucrats and bean counters at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. They are what are called CIA "assets," who can be someone who turns over an occasional piece of information to the CIA, without even knowing it is for the CIA, all the way up to someone who is continually working for the CIA in covert operations. A similar and, likewise, important cog in CIA operations is what is known as a cutout. A cutout is a front man or middle man set up to protect the identities of the primary participants. Like an asset, a cutout may or may not know for whom he is working and the actual purpose of his work. (The Mafia also makes use of such cutouts, except they call them "mustaches" or "beards.") The CIA uses assets and cutouts to maintain one of its prime directives: plausible deniability, or, in other words, "Don't get caught embarrassing the President." (The CIA is the intelligence-gathering and covert-action arm of the President. Perhaps that is the definition journalists should always refer to, rather than just throwing the general term "CIA" around as if it were some sort of independently run mythical loose cannon.) So . . . if an asset or cutout is caught breaking the law, the CIA can deny that its operative was working for it at that particular time. This leads to one difference between the Mafia and the CIA, particularly in this story. Once it is established that members and associates of the Mafia are involved in a failed savings and loan, that is usually enough to establish, prima facie, the involvement of the Mafia. Members and associates of the Mafia don't do such things without the knowledge, permission and the sharing of the spoils, with their superiors. The destruction of the savings and loan industry in Texas, and in some other parts of the country, worked basically like an organized-crime bustout or burnout. This is a mob scam in which a failing company is taken over, built up on credit, then drained of all its assets and purposely put into bankruptcy, leaving the creditors holding the bag. In the case of savings and loans, the credit was federally insured deposits injected by money brokers, like mob associate Mario Renda, and the creditors are the taxpayers. The front men, the cutouts and the "mustaches," like Don Dixon, Tyrell Barker, Ed McBirney, Jarrett Woods, Roy Dailey, Mike Adkinson and Robert Corson, are left to take the blame. But don't feel sorry for them, for they have usually skimmed enough off to offshore bank accounts to make it well worth a couple of years in jail, keeping their mouths shut. However, because of the CIA's doctrine of plausible deniability, the involvement of a CIA asset in a failed savings and loan does not make a prima facie case for the involvement of the CIA. In fact, I know of no independent test a journalist can conduct to determine whether the involvement of a CIA asset means the CIA has sanctioned it or whether the asset is just freelancing for his own gain. Both possibilities would look the same to an outside observer. The only way to tell would be if the CIA admitted its involvement or if there were unassailable, documented evidence sh owing S&L money going from an asset to a CIA operation. This is attainable only by subpoena, if at all. Even in such a case the CIA might deny that it knew the asset was pumping money into the operation or that it knew money came from an S&L. But if the CIA admitted that, it would be admitting that it is both incompetent and stupid. In the case of the failed S&Ls, the CIA has categorically denied its involvement. The CIA did admit to a congressional committee that it had a relationship to five individuals connected to failed savings and loans, and that it had also done business with four savings and loans that later failed. But the spy agency claimed that its business with these S&Ls was legitimate. however, there are several cases in which there are clear indications that S&L money went directly to operations that the CIA took part in, even if it didn't overtly control them -- for example, the cases of Iran-Contra and of weapons shipments to the Middle East. but one thing we can say, categorically: The CIA either knew or didn't know what its operatives were doing at S&Ls. If it knew, why didn't it stop them or alert the proper authorities? If it didn't know, how effective an intelligence agency could it really be? Finally, a word about the circumstantial evidence in this book. Circumstantial evidence must necessarily be used because of the secretive nature of the CIA and the unavailability of S&L documents. The evidence appears many times in this way: A failed S&L was owned and controlled by people who have done business with Mafia associates and CIA operatives; many of the borrowers were Mafia and CIA associates; many of the original property owners have done business with Mafia and CIA operatives and some of the money disappears in foreign accounts controlled by Mafia and CIA associates. What does such evidence prove? Based on my research and knowledge of the CIA, I believe it makes it more likely than not that someone in the CIA hierarchy knew about and approved, if not instigated, the S&L actions of its operatives. In any event, journalists are not in the proof business, we are in the information business. Proof is for mathematicians and courts of law, and even in those arenas, there are great disputes about what constitutes proof. The readers of this book, and the American public, can evaluate the evidence and information in this book for themselves and decide whether it should be acted upon or ignored. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with circumstantial evidence. In our country's courts of law, fortunes and lives can be won or lost, fairly and squarely, on the basis of circumstantial evidence. Juries, as well as readers of this book, may infer facts and conclusions from circumstantial evidence. I have attempted to set out all the facts and circumstantial evidence that I know. In some cases the meanings are clear and conclusions can be drawn. In other places the going gets a little tough, because there is not enough data and evidence to draw meanings and reach conclusions. For this I apologize; i wish I had found more information. In all, I have tried to follow the injunction of our forefathers, who in proclaiming their thesis in the Declaration of Independence, stated: ". . . let facts be submitted to a candid world." Admittedly, it is easy to be cynical and discouraged about the situation presented in the following chapters. One question I am constantly asked is: "What can we, the American people, do about this?" There are no quick-and-easy solutions or panaceas. However, like our founding fathers, we should have faith in the liberating power of knowledge and information. If we know how and why something happened, and who benefitted by it, then we will know the right thing to do.

64 Posted on 02/03/2000 22:04:03 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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>Are we onto something here or what?

"Walter M. Mischer, Sr., Houston developer, banker, power broker, who headed Allied Bank; Corson's former father-in-law; did business with the Mafia and the CIA; fourth largest landowner in Texas; owns 12 percent of Caribbean nation of Belize with partners; friend and fundraiser for LBJ, Lloyd Bentsen, Ronald Reagan and George Bush, among many others." ["Cast of Principal Characters," The Mafia, CIA & George Bush].

Of particular interest to bloodhounds like us is the fact that when the blood plasma operation in Haiti was shut down in the early 70s (HemoCaribbean -- NY/Miami owners), Belize was the only country in Latin America that could export blood plasma to the U.S.A.

65 Posted on 02/03/2000 22:19:07 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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On second thought, I believe that Belize was the only place outside the U.S.A. that could produce FDA-approved blood plasma. I'll check on that, if you or other bloodhounds don't remember.

66 Posted on 02/03/2000 22:28:20 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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I wouldn't be surprised. Then again, in a former life as a maritime and corporate paralegal, I'd been to their scabby 2nd-floor walk-up of a Consul's office.

67 Posted on 02/03/2000 22:46:57 PST by Askel5
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Bmp.
Thanks for the post.

68 Posted on 02/03/2000 22:48:10 PST by metalbird1
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See:

• Where Has All the Money Gone
• Who is Farhad Azima? A Compendium of Articles

Not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion.

FDIC blocks Indian Springs Bank suit U.P.I. Regional News January 12, 1985, Saturday, AM cycle KANSAS CITY, Kan. The Wyandotte County District Court Friday issued a permanent injunction to prevent the owners of the defunct Indian Springs State Bank from suing those they allege caused the bank to fail. The injunction was sought by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., which is the receiver of the failed bank. The FDIC filed a motion Nov. 30 seeking to permanently enjoin the stockholders from prosecuting the defendants. The FDIC claimed that it was the correct entity for pursuing any legal action. Seven of the nearly 30 shareholders of the Kansas City, Kan., bank's parent company filed a suit March 5 seeking more than $5 million in actual damages and an unspecified amount of punitive damages.

The suit was filed against Mario Renda, a New York money broker; his brokerage company, First United Fund Ltd. of Garden City, N.Y.; his real estate company, First United Realty Co.; Franklin Winkler and Sam Daily, two Hawaiian businessmen; and the estate of William Lemaster, the president of the bank before his death 1 years ago. The bank closed almost a year ago and many of its good assets were bought by the Brotherhood Bank & Trust Co. of Kansas City, Kan. Renda's company allegedly placed brokered deposits in the bank, according to federal investigators. About one-half of that money, investigators allege, was lent to Hawaiian real estate projects guided by Winkler and Daily, whom Renda allegedly knew. The stockholders' suit claimed their stock became worthless when the bank failed because most of those loans turned sour. The stockholders also allegedthat Renda, Daily and Winkler tried to buy the bank in December 1982 in an attempt to prevent the bank from foreclosing on loans made to them. Bank stockholders who filed the suit were Farhad Azima, Verlin J. Boes, Raymond Byers, Owen Cudney, Paul Gearhart, Joseph A. Maderak and Richard Walsh.

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U.P.I. Regional News July 30, 1984, Monday, BC cycle KANSAS CITY, Kan Attorneys representing the heirs of a banker plan to initiate legal proceedings to establish that his death was not a suicide. William Lemaster, former president of the failed Indian Springs State Bank in Kansas City, Kan., died in a traffic accident last July. His car crashed into the Lexington Memorial at the south end of the Lexington bridge over the Missouri River. The lawsuit does not actually claim foul play was involved, but the attorneys said they have not dismissed that possibility. Since Lemaster's death, investigators have gained information that appears to point to the theory.

Lemaster reportedly told associates he wanted a remote starter for his car and that he believed there had been attempts to break into the automobile. Also, before he died, he had a tape recording machine installed on his apartment phone to record calls. No tapes were found in the apartment after he died. Lemaster's desk, cabinets and lock box at the Indian Springs State Bank were searched before family members arrived to claim his belongings. Some suspect his apartment also was searched before family members arrived. Lemaster's green valise, which he reportedly always kept with him, has never been found, and there is no evidence to suggest it was burned in the accident.

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U.P.I. Regional News February 17, 1984, Friday, BC cycle KANSAS CITY, Kan. Federal and state authorities have teamed to investigate possible criminal violations that may have occurred at a bank that failed last month. The Kansas bank commissioner declared the Indian Springs State Bank insolvent and the Federal Insurance Deposit Corp. took over the bank. The commissioner said the bank failed because of bad loans. Wyandotte County District Attorney Nick Tomasic said he recently was told of an apparent fraudulent loan and he turned the matter over to the Kansas Bureau of Investigation, which said it would work with the FBI in its investigation.

The FBI, according to a local spokesman, has been investigating transactions between the Indian Springs State Bank and a used car dealer. Agents also are checking into possible connections between bank business and the attempted murder of a bank customer. In a recent court action, Indian Springs Bancshares Inc., filed a petition charging former bank president William Lemaster caused the institution to loose money through errors, megligent acts and misstatements. The petition filed in Wyandotte County Probate Court is the first legal move that suggests Lemaster, who was killed in a car accident last July, may have been responsible for the bank's failure. The documents asked the court to award the bank $4 million from Lemaster's estate. Federal bank examiners last year chastised the bank for making more than $2 million in loans to Hawaiian investors, their associates and a Las Vegas casino. Examiners said the bank also extended too much credit to a holding company board director who operates financially troubled Global International Airways Corp.

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U.P.I. Regional News December 15, 1983, Thursday, BC cycle KANSAS CITY, Kan. The Indian Springs State Bank has filed lawsuits in both state and federal courts in an attempt to recover nearly $2 million in loans. The bulk of that amount, court records indicate, would come from associates of a pair of Hawaiian real estate investors. Among the 16 suits filed over the past week, the bank is seeking from $50,000 to $100,000 each from 16 members of limited partnerships involved land developmens in Hawaii led by Franklin Winkler and Sam Daily. The bank is also attempting to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars from Kansas City, Kan., area businessmen through legal action. Thr Indian Springs State Bank has had attention drawn to it lately because of the attempted murder of one of the Hawaiian real estate investors and the death last July of its president. The bank has also allegedly asked members of organized crime to become customers.

Also, after the death of bank president William Lemaster in a car crash, about $3 million in unrecordered letters of credit issued without the bank board's knowledge were found in his desk. The most recent lawsuits involved about $2.5 million in loans to the Hawaiian land interests. According to the an attorney for Winkler, about $300,000 in interest is currently owed on the loans. The bank allegedly attempted to negotiate an early payment scheduled for the loans after the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. last year critized the bank for making out-of-terrority loans. Daily, however, said the loans were not due because they were set up to be renewed for two years. The FBI is reportedly investigating the shooting of Winkler at his home in Hawaii last June to see if there were Kansas City connections. Winkler was shot several twice, but has since recovered. The Kansas City Business Journal ran a copyright story saying someone from Kansas City was paid $20,000 to kill Winkler.

69 Posted on 02/03/2000 23:23:30 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
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Wow! Beautiful Wallaby!

"What these people had in common -- unknown to the American public -- were their symbiotic relationships to the Mafia and the CIA, and to the two most prominent, powerful politicians from Texas, President George Bush and Senator Lloyd Bentsen."

What's a matter with these freepers. Vote Bush, vote corruption.

Regards, Uncle Bill

70 Posted on 02/03/2000 23:49:31 PST by Uncle Bill
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"I think if they can say it honestly, the head people -- Jack Ryan and Ellen Kulka, would like to be able to say "Whitewater did not cause a loss to Madison." We don't know, you know, what Fiske is going to find and we don't offer any opinion on it. But the problem is nobody has been able to say to Ryan and Kulka, "Sure say that, that's fine."(405) At the time, Mr. Ryan was the RTC's CEO and Ms. Kulka was its General Counsel."

(emphasis mine) sure! the "Fiske" was all ready in............

71 Posted on 02/04/2000 03:53:15 PST by thinden
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> Winkler was shot several twice

Boy, he was lucky to survive.

72 Posted on 02/04/2000 04:10:18 PST by T'wit
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"Bet I got it right that she said, "I may be a **** but I'm not a liar!""

you got that right! she's the only honest politician I know! (of course, I always contribute to her campaigns...and vote for her each time she runs for office!)

73 Posted on 02/04/2000 04:16:46 PST by thinden
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thanx for all the meat! have to come back later for 3rd's, 4th's, and 5th's on this thread!

74 Posted on 02/04/2000 04:19:04 PST by thinden
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Thanks, Wallaby. All I've got to add is ---- Deals . Don't forget, $2+ billion/yr. is moving thru Branson. A constant stream of defaults and Bankruptcy.

A long time back I was pushing "Global" this and that. Enter Global --- Mo. Corp.

'Specially Global Airways and Global Productions.

75 Posted on 02/04/2000 06:25:39 PST by NDCORUP
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"Corson and Garman, who controlled Vision Banc's three-person loan committee, allegedly approved four loans in June 1986 totaling $ 20.4 million to ""straw borrowers'' -- loan customers who sign loan papers but have no intention of paying back the proceeds.

About $ 15 million allegedly went to former Houston developer William Michael Adkinson and others who were accused of using a maze of corporations to fraudulently finance the purchase of a 21,000-acre undeveloped strip along the Florida Gulf Coast."

76 Posted on 02/04/2000 06:28:34 PST by NDCORUP
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"Federal bank examiners last year chastised the bank for making more than $2 million in loans to Hawaiian investors, their associates and a Las Vegas casino. Examiners said the bank also extended too much credit to a holding company board director who operates financially troubled Global International Airways Corp."

77 Posted on 02/04/2000 06:39:00 PST by NDCORUP
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bttt

78 Posted on 02/04/2000 06:42:52 PST by prognostigaator
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'How 'bout them Cowboys?'

I am also convinced that it was Jerry Jones that gave the OK to Dan Harmon to run drugs through Cowboys Stadium. Sharlene Wilson has said that Dan Harmon said there wouldn't be a problem. Who assured Harmon of that? I believe it was the head rat himself.

79 Posted on 02/04/2000 08:15:50 PST by mancini
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Makes my blood boil...BUMP!

80 Posted on 02/04/2000 08:36:40 PST by blackbart
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Have you ever read the book, "DISAVOW," by Rodney Stich [most notably known for having written "Defrauding America"]?
Seems I recollect reading a blurb on it ["DISAVOW"] that it ties CIA front real estate companies in Hawaii to the S&L debacle.

81 Posted on 02/04/2000 09:15:54 PST by metalbird1
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Try digging into MidAmerican Energy and their Real Estate division. Bought out Carol Jones Realty here after it went through tremendous growth, the HQ became Amerus then back to Carol Jones. It's a core.

82 Posted on 02/04/2000 10:30:28 PST by NDCORUP
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This is from this discussion --- http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a367570940aba.htm

To: NDCORUP, INFOMAN, BABYLONIAN & OTHERS
Gosh darn....a light bulb just came on. I've been doing a good bit of searching relative to the Know Your Customer Program. The way the proposed regs were written up in the Federal Register created a good bit more interest...the FDIC proposed regs printed out in 13 pages and the Federal Reserve printed out in 19 pages...supposedly "similar" regs.

Anyhow, the red flag came up. Hence, further investigating. I've got about 2" of paper stacked up and came across a letter from the Board of Governors of the Fed to their Regional Reserve Banks dated 6-30-97 (found on the triple w networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1b/fp-frb-kyc-report.htm site.

This letter discusses private banking activities, etc. Mentions high net worth "clients" (not customers); I've found mention of exempting certain types of banking/financial entities, i.e. shell holding companies, Edge Act corporations, trust companies, referred clients, etc.

I know very, very little about the banking industry, but it seems very strange to me that they are proposing Know Your Customer regs for the poorest among us, but appear to be exempting "special" entities from having to comply.

Given that todays' news indicates Greenspan wants "archaic" banking rules changed, this apparent "bank-non-bank" thingy you folks have, and this junk I've come across are all working towards protection of the elitist money-laundering groups of the world? This memo even talks about "global practices". Should I not think about it?
From: rowdee (ball1@dmi.net) *
02/11/99 20:02:25 PST

I believe this fits in this thread as well.

83 Posted on 02/04/2000 12:49:49 PST by NDCORUP
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Interesting

84 Posted on 02/04/2000 12:56:39 PST by metalbird1
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hmmm. catch ya later on this one

85 Posted on 02/04/2000 13:10:43 PST by thinden
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Very interesting. Now to throw another angle into this money business, catch this quote from one of Raylen Allan's latest posts (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=1412):

"Gunther never like John McCain. I never fully understood the reasons he didn’t like McCain. I know that McCain had been involved in the Saving and Loan mess through his involvement with Lincoln Savings and Loan., But I also know that the Savings and Loan scandal was created by former OSS operative William Casey, (later CIA director), as a plan to bankrupt the Federal Reserve by the year 2000, and put the control of the Treasury back in the hands of the United States Congress rather than foreign bankers. I also know that Charles Keating, the head of Lincoln Savings and Loan, was part of a group of covert operatives that worked with Rudolph Guiliani in tracking and eliminating pedophiles."

I know the truth's out there somewhere...

86 Posted on 02/04/2000 13:17:45 PST by jedediah smith
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I saw that.
Maybe yes, maybe no. Factor that in in consideration of Wallaby's post at 64 from the introduction of Brewton's book. Poppa Bush, it appears, was up to there in alligators in the S&L's.
And come to think of it, then there's that little matter of Neil Bush and Silverado.
So: does it hold water that the S&L debacle was intended to do in the Establishment?
How so, when they were intimate players a party to it...

87 Posted on 02/04/2000 13:31:36 PST by metalbird1
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I wondered the same thing. I'm more inclined to believe that the S&L crises were probably designed to collapse the banking system and initiate global chaos, which could then only be "remedied" by an electronic banking system, complete with biochip implantation to enslave the masses.

88 Posted on 02/04/2000 13:46:21 PST by jedediah smith
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In any case, it certainly managed to fund some hundreds of billions of dollars in black op projects, and make a lot of fat cats fatter...

89 Posted on 02/04/2000 13:51:58 PST by metalbird1
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"I'm more inclined to believe that the S&L crises were probably designed to collapse the banking system and initiate global chaos, which could then only be "remedied" by an electronic banking system,"

I'm not sure the intent was to collapse it, but that could have been the effect. In the meantime ALL THAT MONEY went somewhere. Something I've been kicking around for quite a while is the phenominal rise of Mob/CIA front companies (personal observation). Back of my mind idea is that a lot of that money is being used to buy up/out legit companies. Banks, Large Retail, Real Estate, Auto Dealerships, etc., all now show distinct signs of mob ownership. Detailing those signs would wear my one finger down to a nub.

90 Posted on 02/04/2000 14:11:31 PST by NDCORUP
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The Iranian-born chairman and CEO of the Aviation Leasing Group, Azima and his company gave $143,741 to the DNC -- and the DNC is giving it all back for reasons that are still unclear. Why would the DNC classify his donations as "deemed inappropriate"? Azima's companies have tangled often with federal regulators: In 1983 the Federal Aviation Administration suspended operations of his Global International Airways for safety reasons -- one of its planes carrying TV crews accompanying Reagan to Brazil had made a crash landing -- and it subsequently went bankrupt. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. sued Azima and other directors in 1984 when their Indian Springs State Bank in Kansas City collapsed from insider loans and deposit fraud; Azima's companies had been heavy borrowers. Another of his companies, Buffalo Airways of Waco, Texas, settled a tax lien with the Internal Revenue Service this year, and is still fighting the Justice Department over a $1.4 million bill for cargo service provided to the Pentagon during the Gulf War.

But Azima's not just an adversary of federal regulators, he's an indiscriminate buddy of whoever's in power. A White House insider under Reagan and Bush, he has also cozied up to Clinton at three White House coffees. One of his jets was used in 1985 to ship arms to Iran in exchange for the release of U.S. hostages, and more recently his planes were chartered during the 1996 campaigns by then-DNC chair Don Fowler -- 46 times -- and by his old friend and former lawyer Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.). On the ground, Azima held one fundraiser at his home for Thompson, and another for the Democrats at a Kansas City hotel on his own birthday -- guest-of-honor Clinton led the group in singing the inevitable song.

Azima's bipartisan largesse may pay off in immunization from at least one federal inquiry, as Thompson now chairs the Senate committee investigating fundraising abuses. Then again, it may not: Thompson recently returned the $3,000 his campaign received from the Azima family.

91 Posted on 02/04/2000 16:49:45 PST by Boyd
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About $ 15 million allegedly went to former Houston developer William Michael Adkinson and others who were accused of using a maze of corporations to fraudulently finance the purchase of a 21,000-acre undeveloped strip along the Florida Gulf Coast."

Do you know what, where land this is ?

92 Posted on 02/04/2000 16:50:27 PST by Leper Messiah
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"Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.)"

You Know ----- MGD.

From --- HERE.

93 Posted on 02/04/2000 18:05:27 PST by NDCORUP
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"Do you know what, where land this is ?"

No. But it's probably swamp.

94 Posted on 02/04/2000 18:08:23 PST by NDCORUP
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Metalbird, I think you're exactly right, but I also think to these people it's sorta like playing pool: if you can possibly sink two balls with one shot, you plan for it. And you're always planning the effect of your current shot on future shots. Of course, a better analogy might be they're playing a chess game and we're the pawns.

95 Posted on 02/05/2000 16:22:33 PST by jedediah smith
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Bttt.

96 Posted on 03/15/2000 02:15:35 PST by Uncle Bill
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is this what you're talking about, walls?

97 Posted on 01/17/2001 05:09:00 PST by thinden
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A Saturday morning, as I recall. Used to be some great games of chase. [There was another one on C-130s, firefighters, ET AL]

'Here are two clues, see what you can find'.

'Here are three more, tie 'em together'.

This thread is a classic of going somewhere I didn't anticipate at all. And then, down the line, you meet some really amazing people whose knowledge makes you feel a bit like a mental knuckle-dragger. [Pass the iodine]

98 Posted on 01/17/2001 19:42:02 PST by Boyd
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from leper's post 92:

About $ 15 million allegedly went to former Houston developer William Michael Adkinson and others who were accused of using a maze of corporations to fraudulently finance the purchase of a 21,000-acre undeveloped strip along the Florida Gulf Coast."

Do you know what, where land this is ?

99 Posted on 01/18/2001 04:48:40 PST by thinden
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...you meet some really amazing people whose knowledge makes you feel a bit like a mental knuckle-dragger.

I heard that!

100 Posted on 01/18/2001 04:51:05 PST by thinden
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They probably kept FBI files on Democrats so that they would have something to keep them loyal.

101 Posted on 01/18/2001 05:05:04 PST by dr_who
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Oh why not bump this - we should probably start a volume on the investigations that deserve attention by the new Attorney General and his justice department......

102 Posted on 01/18/2001 05:11:02 PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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Do you know what, where land this is ?

Topsail Hill.

Topsail Convictions Overturned

103 Posted on 01/18/2001 05:37:41 PST by independentmind
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After reading some of this post and others on FR, someone please explain to me why President Bush is keep Freeh at the FBI? From all appearances, he has been right in the middle of the whole Clinton mess.

104 Posted on 01/18/2001 05:53:30 PST by Elkiejg (Elkiejg@aol.com)
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The FBI Director's job is a ten-year term of service. It was made that way to help de-politicize it after J. Edgar Hoover "held the office." I'm sure that malfeasance would shorten a term, but without malfeasance being charged or proven, and without a desire on the part of the director to leave, he/she stays.

105 Posted on 01/18/2001 06:11:48 PST by GretchenEE
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I have a feeling a lot on this thread might disagree but I am inclined to think that Freeh is one of the good guys. It is easy to throw dirt around.

106 Posted on 01/18/2001 07:03:05 PST by independentmind
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"I'm sure that malfeasance would shorten a term, but without malfeasance being charged or proven, and without a desire on the part of the director to leave, he/she stays."

yeah, something real serious kinda like sessions gettin canned because of his wife getting caught transporting a few sticks of firewood on a gummit helocopter back in the fateful summer of '93.

107 Posted on 01/18/2001 08:07:18 PST by thinden
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thanx. I think I've been by there.

108 Posted on 01/18/2001 09:36:02 PST by thinden
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Topsail Cnvictions Overturned

U.S. v Adkinson

Thanks for the bump, at the time of my post I was very curious about where this land was. Here is the Appellate ruling for interested parties.

109 Posted on 01/18/2001 11:36:30 PST by Leper Messiah
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I have a feeling a lot on this thread might disagree but I am inclined to think that Freeh is one of the good guys. It is easy to throw dirt around.

Freeh sounds good frequently. But, when it comes time to test his mettle, there seems to be very little to like. Here is a little something from ABCNEWS.com that will bring back fond memories:

WASHINGTON, Dec. 9 — Republican efforts to pit Attorney General Janet Reno against FBI Director Louis Freeh flopped today on Capitol Hill.

House Government Reform and Oversight Committee Chairman Dan Burton, R-Ind., grilled both Reno and Freeh over her refusal to request an independent counsel to take over the White House fund-raising probe. Reno and Freeh have disagreed on the independent counsel decision, and Burton was anxious to exploit the rift.

But neither took the bait, leaving Burton to chair a session of back-slapping and concession. Reno defended her work, her character and her friendship with Freeh. In turn, the FBI director said he agreed to disagree with his boss.

“We differ from time to time,” Freeh said. “This is not the first time in four and a quarter years, probably won’t be the last.”

Burton also failed, despite repeated questioning, to draw Freeh into explaining the memo that outlines disagreement within the Justice Department over the independent counsel question. Both Reno and Freeh said that releasing the memo would have a chilling effect on internal communications at the agency and would tip off “potential targets of our approach and our analysis.”

In the memo, Freeh called for the appointment of a special counsel, citing the contention of FBI investigators that White House officials may have conspired to evade campaign finance laws. The relationship between Reno and Freeh has been the subject of intense speculation ever since.

But Reno today lauded Freeh’s independence, saying she doesn’t like to surround herself with “yes people.” “I value his judgment, I value his counsel and we have a very strong and very amicable working relationship that I don’t think anybody’s going to bust up,” Reno said.

As Reno sat waiting to testify before the panel earlier in the day, Burton ran through a litany of media reports that have trumped Justice Department investigators by exposing controversial White House fund-raising practices.

Burton asked, “How are members of Congress and the public supposed to react when they pick up the newspaper and this is what they read?”

But Democrats on the committee rallied to Reno’s defense. Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., praised her as a “paragon of public virtue” and offered her “my personal apologies for the outrageous statements about you … cheap, petty, personal partisan attacks.”

110 Posted on 01/18/2001 11:54:54 PST by otterpond
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The "good old days", huh? :-)

111 Posted on 01/18/2001 12:11:46 PST by rdavis84
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You have me curious now. I'll have to do a bit more digging.

112 Posted on 01/18/2001 12:54:13 PST by independentmind
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them was the good ol days! to paraphrase what Boyd says: some of the sharpies on the forum really make me feel like a knuckle dragger (pass the iodine, please).

113 Posted on 01/18/2001 13:36:58 PST by thinden
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Some of us lernt to walk upright, but up here in the hills one set of knuckles still drag the ground. Depends on which arm's uphill.

114 Posted on 01/18/2001 13:42:19 PST by rdavis84
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From the ruling---- "Adkinson and Cox chose Crossview Development Company, owned by a Kuwati investor, a client of Cox, as one of the entities."

I may be looking past it, but it might be of interest WHO that Kuwati Investor was.

115 Posted on 01/18/2001 13:51:28 PST by rdavis84
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"up here in the hills one set of knuckles still drag the ground."

'course that makes tater harvest a lot easier.

116 Posted on 01/18/2001 13:54:28 PST by thinden
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Boyd, was it you that linked me back in here today?

117 Posted on 05/27/2001 15:32:10 PDT by thinden
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I know I've read this thread before but I may have to take another look.

118 Posted on 05/27/2001 18:12:00 PDT by independentmind
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lot of good data. just in case you haven't archived it...is all.

119 Posted on 05/28/2001 07:02:54 PDT by thinden
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Yes. I stumbled across it when researching something else.

It contains the Whitewater S and L switch that I found, and lost, a while back.

120 Posted on 05/28/2001 16:34:32 PDT by Boyd
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might as well get this one back up on the board for a while.

121 Posted on 06/11/2001 08:59:14 PDT by thinden
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From your #65:

Of particular interest to bloodhounds like us is the fact that when the blood plasma operation in Haiti was shut down in the early 70s (HemoCaribbean -- NY/Miami owners), Belize was the only country in Latin America that could export blood plasma to the U.S.A.

I did a preliminary search on the internet and came up with nothing on HemoCaribbean. If you have any additional information which can be provided here, particularly as to management,location and ownership, I would be interested in reading it.

122 Posted on 06/11/2001 10:30:23 PDT by independentmind
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Take for another example the trade in Haitian blood. In 1972, traffic in Haitian blood was assured by the Hemo-Caribbean and Co., financed by the US and international capital and organized by cronies of Duvalier. North American hemophiliacs, who needed factor VIII, a coagulant then distilled from the plasma of thousands of donors, were for years the indirect beneficiaries of the trade. Its direct beneficiary, however, was Miami-based stock broker Joseph B. Gorinstein who negotiated with Duvalier. The Haitians would give a litter of blood and the amber plasma was separated out. The blood was pumped back into the person who gave it. The plasma was frozen and shipped to the US with Air Haiti. The donors received $3 for a litter of plasma. Some sold their plasma once a week and earned $150 to $250 a year. The plasma was sold at a seven fold higher price (Farmer, 1994).

123 Posted on 06/11/2001 13:59:46 PDT by independentmind
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Accompanied by a delegation of over a dozen ministers, officials and the inevitable Jean Edouard Baker, head of the Presidential Commission on Growth (and former associate of Duvalier thug Luckner Cambronne of Hemo-Caribbean which exported up to five tons of Haitian plasma and untold numbers of bodies a month)...

124 Posted on 06/11/2001 14:07:07 PDT by independentmind
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125 Posted on 11/04/2001 05:47:07 PST by backhoe
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126 Posted on 11/04/2001 05:51:04 PST by Tribune7
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127 Posted on 11/04/2001 14:48:51 PST by prognostigaator
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128 Posted on 01/04/2002 11:20:58 PST by rdavis84
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129 Posted on 01/04/2002 14:30:13 PST by thinden
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130 Posted on 01/04/2002 14:31:45 PST by thinden
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131 Posted on 01/06/2002 20:33:29 PST by T'wit
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132 Posted on 01/06/2002 20:36:25 PST by IM2Phat4U
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133 Posted on 01/06/2002 20:39:51 PST by LurkerNoMore!
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134 Posted on 01/06/2002 20:45:09 PST by Senator Pardek
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135 Posted on 01/06/2002 21:14:17 PST by Itzlzha
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136 Posted on 01/07/2002 07:48:18 PST by T'wit
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137 Posted on 01/07/2002 18:18:58 PST by LurkerNoMore!
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138 Posted on 01/20/2002 04:16:57 PST by backhoe
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139 Posted on 01/20/2002 04:23:47 PST by rdavis84
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140 Posted on 01/20/2002 07:46:12 PST by thinden
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141 Posted on 01/20/2002 09:21:38 PST by T'wit
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