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INTRODUCTION The Mafia, CIA and George Bush Pete Brewton (New York: S.P.I. Books, 1992)
Something very significant happened during our country's savings-and-loan crisis, the greatest financial disaster since the Great Depression. It happened quietly, secretly, without any fanfare and attention. It happened before our very eyes, yet we knew it not.What we all missed was the massive transfer of wealth from the American taxpayers to a select group of extremely rich, powerful people. What these people had in common -- unknown to the American public -- were their symbiotic relationships to the Mafia and the CIA, and to the two most prominent, powerful politicians from Texas, President George Bush and Senator Lloyd Bentsen.
This small cabal of businessmen realized that the S&Ls were going the way of the dinosaurs. They recognized that S&Ls couldn't survive under rapid inflation and high interest rates. So they decided to exploit the situation for their own purposes, with help from, and rewards for, the Mafia, the CIA and their favorite politicians. They probably figured that the insulation and protection these powerful institutions and individuals conferred upon them, in addition to all the endemic protections with the financial, judicial, political and journalistic systems, made them invulnerable. They were probably right.
For unlike Watergate and Iran-Contra, this was a bipartisan scandal. There was no opposition party to push for an independent investigation. In fact, the same group of wealthy, powerful businessmen, centered in Houston, that encircle Republicans like George Bush and James A. Baker III, also encircle Democrats like Jim Wright and Lloyd Bentsen.
This information enables one to view the 1988 elections, in which not one cross word was ever spoken about the savings-and-loan debacle, in a whole new perspective. It was not merely a fortuitous coincidence that both Bush, the Republican nominee for President, and Bentsen, the Democratic nominee for Vice President, were part of, and beholden to, the same group of Houston businessmen. Even if the Democrats lost that presidential election, as they did, Bentsen could still win re-election to his Senate seat under the so-called "LBJ rule." The Houston boys, as usual, had their bets covered.
(If the Democrats had won in 1988, this book would be entitled "The Mafia, the CIA and Lloyd Bentsen," for Bentsen and Bush are two interchangeable peas in a pod. They have many friends, business associates and campaign donors in common. The story of the most important one they share begins this book.)
But Bush won in 1988, and one of the reasons he did was his ability to keep the S&L scandal out of the political debate. He was assisted in this by none other than Bentsen, as we shall see. They both had much to hid, Bush in particular. Not only were many of the President-to-be's friends involved -- along with two of his sons -- but Bush himself, as Vice President, had personally intervened in the federal regulation of a dirty Florida savings and loan that was being looted by people with connections to the Mafia and the CIA. This S&L ultimately failed, costing taxpayers nearly $700 million.
The S&L scandal is the vehicle for telling the story about these leading American politicians and businessmen. But the relationships between these individuals and how they control and manipulate public and private institutions is the bigger story. Unless we know who these people are and understand how they operate, we can all look forward to more S&L-type debacles to come.
The S&L scandal was almost the perfect crime. The layers of protection and insulation between what the public discovered was going on at the savings and loans and what actually happened with the money were so many and so thick that the crimes and theft would never be completely figured out. And even if the truth were ultimately unearthed, there were additional layers between that revelation and the bringing of those responsible to the bar of justice and recovering the money.
The first and foremost layer of protection is the difficulty in tracking the money from the savings and loans to its ultimate destination. That is why almost no FBI agent, federal prosecutor, S&L regulator, congressional committee or journalist has been able to track the money. Yet where the money went is really the only thing that matters. The rest of the "facts" that, typically, got investigated, prosecuted and written about were mostly smoke and mirrors, set up to shield who really got the hundreds of billions of dollars that taxpayers must pay back and to hide what the money was used for.[1]
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[1]--A notable exception is the book Inside Job, by Stephen Pizzo, Mary Fricker and Paul Muolo, which nailed down the fact that the savings-and-loan debacle was caused primarily by fraud.
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The five years that went into this book represent my efforts to peel back all the layers of insulation and protection to get to the real culprits. I have organized this book with that process in mind, to help the reader understand a complicated and confusing subject.In general, the bulk of the money lost in the S&L crisis that American citizens must now pay for went to the owners of the property and assets that the more notorious borrowers purchased with money from S&Ls run by equally infamous owners. This seems to be obvious, yet it somehow got lost in all the hype and hysteria. While Congress, the Justice Department and the press concentrated on the flamboyant borrowers and managers of the S&Ls, the big recipients of the money -- the wealthy, powerful landowners and property owners -- crept off quietly with their profits.
In the second half of this book, a number of examples will be detailed to show how this happened, and who got the money. For example, one later chapter deals with a $200 million, 21,000-acre land transaction in Florida in which much of the borrowed S&L money went to a paper company owned by the Du Pont empire, one of the oldest, richest, most powerful bastions of wealth in this country.
We know this because many of the lending documents were pursued by a lone, shrewd, tenacious federal regulator named Kenneth Cureton. However, the unraveling of this transaction was a rare and exceptional event. But even it could not be called a complete victory. The Department of Justice's International Division, the government body through which subpoenas to offshore banks must pass, inexplicably became a brick wall for Cureton's efforts to obtain records on the Isle of Jersey in the English Channel, where a big chunk of the money went -- possibly to buy weapons for Iraq.
Since so many of the crucial documents in this scandal are not available, we are left with the second-best avenue of investigation: finding out who the original property owners were and everything we can about them, and then doing the same thing for the S&L proprietors and borrowers. The bulk of this book consists of that enterprise.
The evidence uncovered is clear, convincing, and compelling: Members and associates of the Mafia and the United States Central Intelligence Agency were key participants in our nation's savings-and-loan debacle, and some of the richest, most powerful people in the country did business with these participants and profited from the S&L crisis.
That members of the Mafia and the CIA, two organizations that operate in secrecy and whose members take sacred oaths -- one supposedly dedicated to national security, the other simply to their organizations' security -- may have been working together is not unprecedented in this country. But that fact doesn't make their cooperation any less outrageous.
It is well known that members of the Mafia and the CIA conspired to try to assassinate Fidel Castro. There are other, less substantiated, although credible, allegations regarding the two groups' involvement together in drug smuggling and money laundering in Southeast Asia, Australia and the Caribbean.[2]
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[2]--The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia, by Alfred W. McCoy (New York: Harper and Row, 1972); The Crimes of Patriots, by Jonathan Kwimy (New York: Norton, 1987); and In Banks We Trust, by Penny Lernoux (Penguin Books, 1986).
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There are also some curious, ominous connections between members of these groups and JFK-assassination figures Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby.
Drawing a straight, direct line from the CIA operatives discussed in this book to the top officials of the CIA and on to the President is extremely difficult because of the way the CIA works. Most of the characters in this book are not the card-carrying bureaucrats and bean counters at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. They are what are called CIA "assets," who can be someone who turns over an occasional piece of information to the CIA, without even knowing it is for the CIA, all the way up to someone who is continually working for the CIA in covert operations.
A similar and, likewise, important cog in CIA operations is what is known as a cutout. A cutout is a front man or middle man set up to protect the identities of the primary participants. Like an asset, a cutout may or may not know for whom he is working and the actual purpose of his work. (The Mafia also makes use of such cutouts, except they call them "mustaches" or "beards.")
The CIA uses assets and cutouts to maintain one of its prime directives: plausible deniability, or, in other words, "Don't get caught embarrassing the President." (The CIA is the intelligence-gathering and covert-action arm of the President. Perhaps that is the definition journalists should always refer to, rather than just throwing the general term "CIA" around as if it were some sort of independently run mythical loose cannon.) So . . . if an asset or cutout is caught breaking the law, the CIA can deny that its operative was working for it at that particular time.
This leads to one difference between the Mafia and the CIA, particularly in this story. Once it is established that members and associates of the Mafia are involved in a failed savings and loan, that is usually enough to establish, prima facie, the involvement of the Mafia. Members and associates of the Mafia don't do such things without the knowledge, permission and the sharing of the spoils, with their superiors.
The destruction of the savings and loan industry in Texas, and in some other parts of the country, worked basically like an organized-crime bustout or burnout. This is a mob scam in which a failing company is taken over, built up on credit, then drained of all its assets and purposely put into bankruptcy, leaving the creditors holding the bag.
In the case of savings and loans, the credit was federally insured deposits injected by money brokers, like mob associate Mario Renda, and the creditors are the taxpayers. The front men, the cutouts and the "mustaches," like Don Dixon, Tyrell Barker, Ed McBirney, Jarrett Woods, Roy Dailey, Mike Adkinson and Robert Corson, are left to take the blame. But don't feel sorry for them, for they have usually skimmed enough off to offshore bank accounts to make it well worth a couple of years in jail, keeping their mouths shut.
However, because of the CIA's doctrine of plausible deniability, the involvement of a CIA asset in a failed savings and loan does not make a prima facie case for the involvement of the CIA. In fact, I know of no independent test a journalist can conduct to determine whether the involvement of a CIA asset means the CIA has sanctioned it or whether the asset is just freelancing for his own gain. Both possibilities would look the same to an outside observer.
The only way to tell would be if the CIA admitted its involvement or if there were unassailable, documented evidence sh owing S&L money going from an asset to a CIA operation. This is attainable only by subpoena, if at all. Even in such a case the CIA might deny that it knew the asset was pumping money into the operation or that it knew money came from an S&L. But if the CIA admitted that, it would be admitting that it is both incompetent and stupid.
In the case of the failed S&Ls, the CIA has categorically denied its involvement. The CIA did admit to a congressional committee that it had a relationship to five individuals connected to failed savings and loans, and that it had also done business with four savings and loans that later failed. But the spy agency claimed that its business with these S&Ls was legitimate. however, there are several cases in which there are clear indications that S&L money went directly to operations that the CIA took part in, even if it didn't overtly control them -- for example, the cases of Iran-Contra and of weapons shipments to the Middle East.
but one thing we can say, categorically: The CIA either knew or didn't know what its operatives were doing at S&Ls. If it knew, why didn't it stop them or alert the proper authorities? If it didn't know, how effective an intelligence agency could it really be?
Finally, a word about the circumstantial evidence in this book. Circumstantial evidence must necessarily be used because of the secretive nature of the CIA and the unavailability of S&L documents. The evidence appears many times in this way: A failed S&L was owned and controlled by people who have done business with Mafia associates and CIA operatives; many of the borrowers were Mafia and CIA associates; many of the original property owners have done business with Mafia and CIA operatives and some of the money disappears in foreign accounts controlled by Mafia and CIA associates.
What does such evidence prove? Based on my research and knowledge of the CIA, I believe it makes it more likely than not that someone in the CIA hierarchy knew about and approved, if not instigated, the S&L actions of its operatives. In any event, journalists are not in the proof business, we are in the information business. Proof is for mathematicians and courts of law, and even in those arenas, there are great disputes about what constitutes proof. The readers of this book, and the American public, can evaluate the evidence and information in this book for themselves and decide whether it should be acted upon or ignored.
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with circumstantial evidence. In our country's courts of law, fortunes and lives can be won or lost, fairly and squarely, on the basis of circumstantial evidence. Juries, as well as readers of this book, may infer facts and conclusions from circumstantial evidence. I have attempted to set out all the facts and circumstantial evidence that I know. In some cases the meanings are clear and conclusions can be drawn. In other places the going gets a little tough, because there is not enough data and evidence to draw meanings and reach conclusions. For this I apologize; i wish I had found more information.
In all, I have tried to follow the injunction of our forefathers, who in proclaiming their thesis in the Declaration of Independence, stated: ". . . let facts be submitted to a candid world."
Admittedly, it is easy to be cynical and discouraged about the situation presented in the following chapters. One question I am constantly asked is: "What can we, the American people, do about this?" There are no quick-and-easy solutions or panaceas. However, like our founding fathers, we should have faith in the liberating power of knowledge and information. If we know how and why something happened, and who benefitted by it, then we will know the right thing to do.
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The extraordinary thing about Brewton's book is that, for all practical purposes, George W. doesn't exist.
Check the index. You'll find one reference to Dubya in the entire book. And it's completely innocuous.
Jeb and Neil are going to show up dozens of times, embroiled in various difficulties and shady deals. But Brewton couldn't find a thing on George W.
JIM BATH, Houston airplane company owner; CIA asset, front man for rich Saudis; associated with Reza Pahlavi, the Shah's son, and business partner with Lan Bentsen, the senator's son, and George W. Bush, the President's son; borrowed from Lamar Savings and Mainland Savings.
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CAST OF PRINCIPAL CHARACTERS (IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER) The Mafia, CIA and George Bush Pete Brewton (New York: S.P.I. Books, 1992) WILLIAM MICHAEL "MIKE" ADKINSON, con man and good old boy from the Florida panhandle; built houses in Houston and sold arms with some Kuwaitis to Iraq; borrowed close to $200 million from a half-dozen dirty S&Ls; convicted for fraud in a $200 million S&L land deal in Florida and sentenced to 11 years in prison; associate of Robert Corson.
ROBERT O. ANDERSON, former chairman of Atlantic Richfield; land-owner with Walter Mischer; borrowed from Hill Financial Savings with Richard Rossmiller.
GEORGE AUBIN, Kappa Sigma frat rat who named most of his companies after his fraternity; took E. F. Hutton for $48 million and several Texas S&Ls for more; always just hanging around Louisiana mobster Herman K. Beebe; one place he never hung around was the inside of a jail, despite vow by several FBI agents to put him there.
FARHAD AZIMA, Iranian native close to Pahlavi family; Kansas city airline owner; board member and stockholder of Kansas City bank controlled by the mob; CIA asset protected by CIA from criminal prosecution.
JAMES A. BAKER, III, White House chief of Staff, former Secretary of the Treasury and Secretary of State; former partner at Andrews & Kurth, which investigated Raymond Hill and Mainland Savings and then did nothing; longtime good friend of Raymond Hill.
JOHN BALLIS, Beaumont dentist who moved to Houston and married a rich man's daughter; developer; associate of John Riddle; pleaded guilty to savings-and-loan fraud and turned state's evidence against Roy Dailey.
BEN BARNES, former Texas lieutenant governor; business associate of Herman K. Beebe, Walter Mischer and John Connally.
JIM BATH, Houston airplane company owner; CIA asset, front man for rich Saudis; associated with Reza Pahlavi, the Shah's son, and business partner with Lan Bentsen, the senator's son, and George W. Bush, the President's son; borrowed from Lamar Savings and Mainland Savings.
CHARLES BAZARIAN, Oklahoma con man, convicted felon and associate of numerous S&L crooks and mobsters, including Morris Shenker, Mario Renda and Don Dixon.
HERMAN K. BEEBE, SR., Louisian financier, convicted felon and Mafia associate; many connections to the intelligence community; godfather of the dirty Texas S&Ls; did nine months in Club Fed.
JAKE BELIN, former head of the largest private landowner in Florida, St. Joe Paper Co., which is owned by the A. I. DuPont Trust; protegé of Ed Ball, right-wing fanatic [sic!] and most powerful man Florida has ever known; Belin liked doing business with fellow Florida redneck Mike Adkinson; he also liked the $80 million St. Joe got from Hill Financial Savings.
LLOYD BENTSEN, senior Democratic senator from Texas; an owner of three Texas S&Ls that later ended up in the hands of CIA or Mafia associates; close to Walter Mischer.
FERNANDO BIRBRAGHER, convicted drug-money launderer at Marvin Warner's Great American Bank; got probation amid rumors of connections to a higher authority (CIA); helped Jack DeVoe launder his drug money; now building hush kits for DC-8s; bought Farhad Azima's interest in two DC-8s in Spain; business partner with Miguel Acosta, a former associate of Ron Martin.
WILLIAM BLAKEMORE, Midland oilman and fierce Contra supporter; head of Gulf & Caribbean Foundation, set up to lobby Congress for aid to Contras; good friend of George Bush; his Iron Mountain ranch the site of paramilitary training and alleged transshipment of weapons.
ROBERT BOBB and DOUGLAS CROCKER, Chicago businessmen who worked for Gouletas family; bought Bellamah Associates from Gouletases; had business dealings with Robert Corson, Larry Mizel's MDC Corp., Silverado Savings and Key Savings.
RICHARD BRENNEKE, renegade intelligence operative and gun dealer; told press about Iran-Contra deals and S&L deals; worked for CIA, Israeli intelligence, Customs and others; acquitted of perjury charge for claiming to work for the CIA; laundered Mafia and CIA money with Robert Corson.
NORMAN BROWNSTEIN, Denver attorney; "Mr. Fix-it"; worked with Kenneth Good, Bill Walters, Larry Mizel, Marvin Davis, Michael Milken, Burton Kanter, Neil Bush and the Gouletas family; good friend of Senator Ted Kennedy, who called him this country's one hundred and first senator.
GEORGE BUSH, President of the United States.
JOHN ELLIS "JEB" BUSH, the President's son; Contra supporter; business associate of Camilo Padreda, who escaped S&L conviction (with Guillermo Hernandez-Cartaya) with possible help from the CIA.
NEIL BUSH, the President's son; director of Silverado Savings; partner with Bill Walters and Ken Good; friend of Walt Mischer, Jr.
LEONARD CAPALDI, reputed Detroit Mafia associate; borrower at Mainland Savings and Hill Financial Savings.
EULALIO FRANCISCO "FRANK" CASTRO, Cuban exile and Bay of Pigs veteran; CIA operative who helped train and supply Contras; part of drug-smuggling ring that bought Sunshine State Bank.
JACK CHAPMAN, Omaha lawyer and former CIA operative, represented Mario Renda; took half a million in cash from CIA-connected Haitian, Clemard Joseph Charles, for Renda to bribe union officials.
CLEMARD JOSEPH CHARLES, Haitian exile who laundered money for Mario Renda to bribe union officials; CIA asset; mob money launderer; associate of Miami lawyer who represented Lawrence Freeman.
ROBERT CLARKE, former U.S. Comptroller of the Currency; lawyer with Houston firm Bracewell and Patterson; involved with Walter Mischer and Mischer's Allied Bank; associated with Louisiana bank connected to Herman K. Beebe; helped charter West Belt National Bank, where Mike Adkinson and E. Trine Starnes, Jr., were stockholders.
JOHN CONNALLY, former Texas governor; Charles Keating worked on his 1980 Republican presidential race; he and his partner, Ben Barnes, borrowed tens of millions of dollars from dirty S&Ls.
RAY CORONA, former head of "Mafia" bank – Sunshine State Bank in Miami, which he fronted for drug smugglers; convicted felon; borrower from Peoples Savings in Llano, Texas; associate of mobsters and CIA operatives, including Leonard Pelullo, Frank Castro, Guillermo Hernandez-Cartaya and Steve Samos.
ROBERT L. CORSON, Houston good old boy and developer who owned Vision Banc Savings in Kingsville; Walter Mischer's former son-in-law; CIA mule; indicted along with Mike Adkinson for $200 million S&L land deal in Florida.
ROY DAILEY, Robert Corson's first cousin; former business associate of Walter Mischer; convicted for fraud at First Savings of East Texas, which he owned with money borrowed from Herman K. Beebe.
MARVIN DAVIS, Denver and Beverly Hills oil billionaire; neighbor of Norman Brownstein; did business with John Dick; his daughter was in the cookie business with Neil Bush's wife, Sharon.
JACK D
EVOE, convicted cocaine trafficker and CIA-connected arms smuggler; used Lawrence Freeman to launder money, which went to same trust in Isle of Jersey that was used by Robert Corson and Mike Adkinson; involved in drug-smuggling and money-laundering operation that included Fernando Birbragher and Marvin Warner's Great American Bank.JOHN DICK, who lives on a manor on the Isle of Jersey; Denver attorney by way of Russia and Canada; business partner with Silverado borrower Bill Walters; associate of Marvin Davis and Robert O. Anderson; borrowed from Hill Financial Savings; involved in Isle of Jersey trust company that was laundering drug money for Jack DeVoe and Lawrence Freeman and S&L money for Robert Corson and Mike Adkinson; sells wheat to the Russians; uses Youth for Christ as cover.
DON DIXON, former head of Vernon Savings, which he bought with a little help from his friend Herman K. Beebe; associate of John Riddle.
LAWRENCE FREEMAN, disbarred Miami attorney and convicted money launderer for cocaine smuggle Jack DeVoe; set up $200 million S&L land deal for Jake Belin and Mike Adkinson; former law partner of CIA super-operative Paul Helliwell and alleged money launderer for Mafia boss Santo Trafficante.
BILLIE JEAN GARMAN, Robert Corson's mother and business partner; indicted along with her son in $200 million S&L land deal in Florida; first person publicly banned by feds from S&Ls.
THOMAS GAUBERT, big Democratic fundraiser from Dallas; former head of Independent American Savings; owned a piece of Sandia Federal Savings in Albuquerque; head of Telecom.
KENNETH GOOD, developer in Texas, Colorado and florida; borrower at Silverado Savings and Jarrett Wood's Western Savings; helped set up Neil Bush in business.
GOULETAS FAMILY – NICHOLAS, EVANGELINE GOULETAS-CAREY and VICTOR GOULET – condo developers from Chicago; have alleged organized crime ties; owned Imperial Savings in San Diego; sold Bellamah Associates to Robert Bobb and Douglas Crocker.
JOSEPH GROSZ, Chicago mob associate; worked for Gouletas family; ran Southmark's San Jacinto Savings; director of Thomas Gaubert's Telecom.
MARVIN HAASS, San Antonio contractor; co-owner of Peoples Savings in Llano, Texas; associate of Morris Jaffe.
JAMES HAGUE, former owner of Liberty Federal Savings, Leesvile, Louisiana, which lent to Morris Shenker; associate of George Aubin and John Riddle.
STEFAN HALPER, co-founder with fellow George Bush supporter Harvey McLean of Palmer National Bank, which was financed by Herman K. Beebe and funneled private donations to the Contras; former son-in-law of past CIA deputy director Ray Cline; helped set up legal defense fund for Oliver North.
J. B. HARALSON, former head of Mercury Savings and Ben Milan Savings, where he was fronting for his close associate George Aubin; old Surety Savings hand and managing officer of two other Texas S&Ls that later failed.
RAYMOND SIDNEY RICHARD HARVEY, Isle of Jersey money manager; handled drug money for Jack DeVoe and Lawrence Freeman and S&L money for Mike Adkinson and Robert Corson; associate of John Dick.
GUILLERMO HERNANDEZ-CARTAYA[1], Cuban exile and Bay of Pigs veteran; convicted of fraud at Texas S&L he bought from Lloyd Bentsen's father; CIA and Mafia money launderer; protected by CIA from certain criminal charges.
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[1] Many hispanics are characters in this book. For those who are citizens of Spanish-speaking nations, the editors have maintained the Spanish accent marks in their names. For names of American hispanics, the accents have not been retained since for American usage they are customarily omitted.
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RAYMOND HILL, Houston attorney and scion of old, rich Houston family; owner of Mainland Savings, which lent money to Mafia associates and CIA operatives; did business with Walter Mischer, "his mentor"; close friend of James A. Baker III.
JERRY HOLLEY, Waco contractor; co-owner with Marvin Haass of Peoples Savings; convicted for perjury involving S&L.
K. C. HOOD, Western Savings officer; convicted felon; associate of Herman K. Beebe; House Speaker Jim Wright rode in his plane.
MONZER HOURANI, Lebanese native and Houston businessman; close friend of U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (Republican-Utah); did business with Robert Corson; borrowed from Lamar Savings and Mainland Savings.
MORRIS and DOUG JAFFE, father-and-son businessmen from San Antonio, Morris is an associate of Marvin Haass and Carlos Marcello, the New Orleans Mafia boss. Doug borrowed from Ed McBirney's Sunbelt Savings and provided jet airplane noise-limitation equipment for Farhad Azima and others.
BURTON KANTER, Chicago tax attorney and reputed organized crime associate; founded Castle Bank & Trust with CIA mastermind Paul Helliwell; close associate of Lawrence Freeman; his law firm set up trusts for Larry Mizel.
CHARLES KEATING, S&L looter; spawned by Carl Lindner; worked on John Connally's 1980 presidential campaign; controlled Lincoln Savings (the first big deal Lincoln Savings did was with John Connally); Lincoln involved in daisy chain with Larry Mizel's M.D.C. Holdings, Silverado Savings and San Jacinto Savings (Joseph Grosz); lent more than $30 million to Father Ritter's Covenant House; his chief pilot in 1979 was CIA operative Ken Qualls.
CARROLL KELLY, who epitomized his Kappa Sigma fraternity; owner of Continental Savings and associate of Herman K. Beebe ("I'm Beebe's man in Texas," he bragged to S&L regulators).
ADNAN KHASHOGGI, Saudi Arabian arms dealer, Iran-Contra middleman and borrower at Raymond Hill's Mainland Savings and Lamar Savings.
ART LEISER, chief examiner for Texas S&L Department; discovered S&L daisy chains with Herman K. Beebe at center in 1983; challenged Guillermo Hernandez-Cartaya to a tennis match to try to get him out of Texas S&Ls.
CARL LINDNER, Cincinnati conglomerateer; gave Charles Keating his start; associate of Michael Milken and Marvin Warner; business ties to Walter Mischer; owns Ocean Reef club on Key Largo where Jack DeVoe would bring in his cocaine from Columbia; Florida police report said Lindner would not be happy with DeVoe's income tax problems.
JON LINDSAY, county judge of Harris County; top Republican figure in Houston; close friend of George Bush; helped Robert Corson get his savings and loan and got $10,000 campaign contribution from Corson.
DONALD LUNA, convicted S&L looter and union pension fund scam artist; caught at Flushing Federal S&L with mobsters; worked loan brokerage deal with Herman K. Beebe, Ben Barnes and Richard Rossmiller.
CARLOS MARCELLO, New Orleans Mafia boss, who also ruled over the Texas underworld; recently returned from a seven-year vacation at Club Fed; close associate of Santo Trafficante.
RONALD J. MARTIN, Miami gun dealer who provided arms to the Contras for the CIA; alleged business partner with Robert Corson in a casino in Grand Canary Island.
ED MCBIRNEY, "Fast Eddie" from Dallas; former head of Sunbelt Savings; associate of Jarrett Woods and George Aubin.
JOE MCDERMOTT, Houston developer; protegé of Walter Mischer; business partner of John Connally; borrower at Robert Corson's Vision Banc Savings.
HARVEY MCLEAN, Shreveport, Louisiana, businessman and close associate of Herman K. Beebe; owned Paris (Texas) Savings and Loan; founded Palmer National Bank with Stefan Halper and Beebe's money.
JOHN MECOM, SR. AND JR., Houston oilmen; Sr. organized a charitable foundation that laundered money for the CIA; Jr. allegedly associated with New Orleans mobsters.
WALT MISCHER, JR., the son, tapped to take over his father's empire; friend of Neil Bush; Kappa Sigma president.
WALTER M. MISCHER, SR., Houston developer, banker, power broker, who headed Allied Bank; Corson's former father-in-law; did business with the Mafia and the CIA; fourth largest landowner in Texas; owns 12 percent of Caribbean nation of Belize with partners; friend and fundraiser for LBJ, Lloyd Bentsen, Ronald Reagan and George Bush, among many others.
LARRY MIZEL, Republican fundraiser and head of M.D.C. Holdings, a Denver homebuilder, which did more than $300 million of business with Silverado Savings and owned stock in the Gouletas family's Imperial Savings; used Burton Kanter's law firm for family trusts.
JACK MODESETT, Houston real estate investor; headed company that did business with Howard Pulver and owned land in far west Texas by a guns-for-drugs landing strip (close to Walter Mischer's land).
LLOYD MONROE, former Kansas City organized-crime strike force prosecutor; told to back off Farhad Azima because he had CIA-issued get-out-of-jail-free card.
MURCHISON, CLINT, SR. AND JR., Dallas oilmen and wheeler-dealers; Clint Sr. was involved in business in Haiti with a CIA operative; Clint Jr. purchased Mischer's interest in sawmills in Honduras; Jr., was involved with a CIA operative in Libya and did business with Herman K. Beebe and Adnan Khashoggi.
MARVIN NATHAN, Houston attorney who served on Carroll Kelly's Continental Savings' board; related by marriage to Robert Strauss; his law firm represented Robert Corson and Mike Adkinson; bought Texas ranch from the family of late Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza, which in turn had purchased it from one of George Bush's best friends.
WILL NORTHROP, Israeli army officer and military intelligence operative; worked in Central America with CIA; associate of Richard Brenneke; indicted with Adnan Khashoggi's attorney in scheme to sell arms to Iran; said Robert Corson "rode the CIA mule in with the Republican party."
LEONARD PELULLO, Philadelphia Mafia associate; borrower at Ray Corona's Sunshine State Bank; indicted in Ohio S&L scam with a member of the Herman K. Beebe circle; tried to buy an Atlantic City casino from another S&L looter; charged with fraud at American Savings in California.
ALBERT PREVOT, Houston and Louisiana businessman; associate of Herman K. Beebe and borrower at Mainland Savings and Continental Savings.
HOWARD PULVER, Long Island apartment syndicator who got money from Mainland Savings and Sandia Federal Savings; did business with mob associate Seymour Lazar; neighbor of Martin Schwimmer.
WAYNE REEDER, California developer; associate of Herman K. Beebe; borrower at Silverado Savings; his CIA-connected associate tried to make guns for the Contras on an Indian reservation.
MARIO RENDA, Long Island money broker with Martin Schwimmer, convicted felon and Mafia associate with a number of CIA buddies.
JOHN C. RIDDLE, a University of Texas Kappa Sigma who tried to emulate his fraternity brother George Aubin; Houston lawyer, developer, banker and title-company owner; close associate of Robert Corson; borrowed several hundred million dollars from Texas S&Ls that later failed.
JOHN B. ROBERTS, San Antonio developer who owned Summit Savings in Dallas and Commerce Savings in San Antonio; associate of George Aubin, Jarrett Woods and Adnan Khashoggi; convicted felon.
VICTOR J. ROGERS II, scion of Beaumont's Rogers family, which owned Texas State Optical; former law partner of John Riddle; former co-owner of an Austin savings and loan; former officer of Caesar's Palace casino in Las Vegas; his uncles were the third largest stockholders of Caesar's Palace; two uncles served as directors of a Beaumont S&L that lent money to Harvey McLean on his Palmer National Bank stock.
RICHARD ROSSMILLER, Denver developer, Herman K. Beebe associate and borrower at Hill Financial Savings; alleged to be the largest debtor to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in the country; John Dick's neighbor.
HEINRICH RUPP, Denver gold dealer and CIA operative; convicted of bank fraud with mobsters; associate of Richard Brenneke.
JOE RUSSO, noted Houston developer; good friend of George Bush and Lloyd Bentsen; owned Ameriway Savings; big borrower at five failed S&Ls; minority owner of United Press International; Kappa Sigma.
STEVE SAMOS, convicted drug trafficker; helped Ray Corona set up Sunshine State Bank for drug smugglers; helped set up companies that funneled money and weapons to the Contras.
KENNETH SCHNITZER, noted Houston developer; business associate of Walter Mischer; owned BancPlus Savings; allegedly associated with mobsters.
MARTIN SCHWIMMER, convicted Long Island money broker with Mario Renda; Ph.D. and author; Mafia money launderer; neighbor of Howard Pulver.
BARRY SEAL, murdered drug smuggler, gun runner, DEA informant and CIA asset; used by CIA on drug sting of Sandinistas; had owned C-123K used to resupply the Contras; caught in 1972 guns-for-drugs operation with Cuban exiles in Mexico that included a Texas rancher, a Gambino family associate and Herman K. Beebe.
MORRIS SHENKER, deceased mob lawyer and casino owner; several of his properties ended up in the hands of Southmark, a Dallas real estate firm that was a mob dumping ground and owner of San Jacinto Savings.
REBECCA SIMS, former accountant for Robert Corson turned free-lance investigator and journalist.
ELLISON TRINE STARNES, JR., Houston con man and son of famous evangelist; borrower at Mischer's Allied Bank; second largest borrower at Silverado Savings ($77 million); associate of John Riddle; borrowed more than $27 million from Carroll Kelly's Continental Savings; one of the biggest private donors to the Contras.
ROBERT STRAUSS, Dallas attorney; U.S. Ambassador to Moscow and former chairman of the Democratic National Committee; friend of George Bush and former business partner with James A. Baker III; he and his son, Richard, were involved in a number of failed Texas S&Ls, including Lamar and Gibraltar.
SANTO TRAFFICANTE, the late Tampa Mafia boss; worked with CIA to try to assassinate Fidel Castro; involved in narcotics trafficking in Southeast Asia with CIA operatives; close to Carlos Marcello; one of his money launderers was Lawrence Freeman.
JACK TROTTER, Houston investor and close associate of Walter Mischer; headed Lloyd Bentsen's trust; business partner of Jim Bath.
BILL WALTERS, Denver developer; borrower at Silverado Savings; helped set up Neil Bush in business; associate of Richard Rossmiller and John Dick.
MARVIN WARNER, native Alabaman who was involved in a number of failed S&Ls in Ohio and Florida; former U.S. ambassador to Switzerland; former chairman of Great American Bank and American Savings of Florida; convicted of S&L fraud in Ohio; had business ties to Robert Corson.
STEPHEN CASS WEILAND, Robert Corson's attorney; former chief counsel to Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations; expert on narcotics trafficking, money laundering and offshore banks; makes cameo appearance in Oliver North's notebooks regarding a White House project in Belize.
JARRETT WOODS, former head of Western Savings; childhood buddy and close associate of George Aubin; sentenced to 25 years in jail for S&L fraud.
Another reason for America to get it's head out of the sand. The pubbicrats are not in the interest of America. We are voting 2nd pary.
Just as a sidenote to this post within a post of yours...
CIA operatives in front companies who did most of their work on the telephone usually shared names with other people. For example, this would be in particular reference to Robert Corson, who is on this list and was the subject of an article you posted on the prior thread. In other words, people did business posing as Corson with his [Corson's] tacit approval.
Excellant !!!
((((Silence of the lambs))))
The American Heritage Dictionary: Lamb - 3. One who can be fleeced, esp. in financial matters; dupe.
Where is the outcry? Where is the outrage? Where is the spirit of patriots of old that rises in the hearts of sober-minded men and women to throw the shackles of slavery off from the backs of the blind and the lost? What act, what deed, what crime, will awaken the hearts of these people and summon the fierce winds of freedom, liberty and justice to move upon the souls of America? Should we shrug off this criminality of the oppressors and the elite? What stronghold will they grab as this once beautiful nation runs to the feet of mammon, while sliding to the pit of corruption, criminality, evil and socialism? Where is the fight? The war was lost, yet not a shot was fired. Do we think these people will somehow just go away, just disappear? Why do men continually run to the keepers of slavery to slog through the mud of socialism and death for a piece of meat, some water and a hypocritical promise and kind word?
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin
"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin." - Samuel Adams (1780)
"God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it." - Daniel Webster
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
"I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson - Letter to William Ludlow, 1824
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson
"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be freemen or slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed, and themselves consigned to a state of wretchedness from which no human efforts will deliver them. The fate of unborn millions will now depend on God, on the courage and conduct of this army. Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance, or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die." - George Washington; 1776
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom... go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels nor arms. May your chains set lightly upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams; 1776
"No man can suffer too much, and no man can fall too soon, if he suffer or if he fall in defense of the liberties and Constitution of his country." - Daniel Webster
"Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and to the Republic for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster and what has happened once in 6,000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail, there will be anarchy throughout the world." - Daniel Webster, 1851
"If you wish the sympathy of the broad masses, you must tell them the crudest and most stupid things." - Adolph Hitler
"Contrary to the Marxists, the Nazis did not advocate public ownership of the means of production. They did demand that the government oversee and run the nation's economy. The issue of legal ownership, they explained, is secondary: what counts is the issue of control. Private citizens, therefore, may continue to hold titles to property-so long as the state reserves to itself the unqualified right to regulate the use of their property." - Ominous Parallels, Leonard Peikoff
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------The Fall of the Republic
B_U_M_P!!!
Does either Stu Webb or Chip Tatum appear in the book?
No, but I take it you noticed Larry Mizel's name popping up here.
But I learned in school that Jefferson was slave owner and a rapist, so why should I listen to any thing he had to say, it was very long time ago anyway, I heard he grew hemp too, he probably made his money selling drugs. /sarcazm
Post 8
BTTT!
Yes, I did notice Mizell. In fact, that's what made me think of Webb.
To ask another question, does the book do anything to substantiate Tatum's claims about drug money-laundering in those savings and loans? And if so, is there any indication that this was going on at Charles Keating's Lincoln Savings & Loan?
The S&L's , with virtually no regulations to control them , were designed right from the start to be vehicles for defrauding innocent people and transferring massive amounts of wealth to those who were already rich. As soon as they started , anyone with a brain should have seen that they were a scam.
The last great republic, the Republic of Rome, fell in the last century BC. It could not survive the clashes of the ruling elites as they battle for control of the government of Rome. Control of the government would, even if for only a few years, greatly enrich the console and his frineds and allies. Great riches were there for the taking, if only one was bold eoungh to take them. Many were bold enough and the rule of law gave way to the law of the jungle. Out of this chaos, the empire emerged.
The thought of an empire of the United States of America should cause the world to tremble in fear.
Maggie Thatcher stops by every now and then to give awards to her minions-----
The way it apparently works is that if you do a "Deal" for the power brokers and weather the storm that it brings on from the opposition, you get to be on the fast track. But you then belong to them.
That's a quote from your site. It certainly seems to be true. I am going to save those names because I am sure we will be seeing more from these team players.
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For Sunday Night Readers.
You know ... I can't figure her out. She pops up at the annual fundraiser for the Asia Society (where she and George Bush stick out like sore thumbs among the socialist NWO elite) but cares to mention (or blame?) that it was President Bush who insisted she run defense of Kuwait by the UN first.
What gives?
I believe she's just a very adept Deciever, just like GHWB.
Even fooled Reagan.
Margaret Thatcher is a pawn of the Committee of 300.
Yes ... could you point me in the right direction for more on this, please? After the tainted blood (etc.) that's curdled what respect and admiration I might have had for Bush, Dole, the GOP leadership ... I'm willing to learn more even about Lady Thatcher. (Although I've had my suspicions, of course, since she turned up at the Asia Society.) Just still hurts, though, because it'll mean I have to break it to my Dad who just had supper with her recently and still is excited about it, I know.
If you would, though, please leave Reagan out of it, if possible. I'm cool with his being used as a dupe, a subterfuge of strength ... I can even understand how hard it was to "tear down that wall" when doubled over with paroxysms of laughter at his calling the Soviets "an evil empire" ... but I'd rather leave it at that, if you don't mind. Cool?
To tell you the truth, I was hoping she made the best of being deceived once she realized what the Big Boys really were up to. Even had a spark of hope recently when Kirkpatrick mentioned Thatcher had detailed in her biography Bush's insisting they run the defense of Kuwait by the UN.
Maybe she's just ensuring the blame is laid properly but ... even that sort of quisling behavior seems odd.
Yes, that's quite alright with me. I really can't add too much specifically about Margaret Thatcher, except to say that I believe Dr. John Coleman said she was controlled by "the Committee of 300." (For an online version of an older copy of his book of the same name, click here. His latest version has more material, however.) [Unfortunately this link is not working at this time, but it worked not too long ago. However, if it continues to fail, it's in the Google.com cache]
As preposterous as it may sound to some, Britain has been secretly calling a lot of the shots in America, since not too long after the American Revolution. They made tons of money off the China opium trade and over the years have exerted tremendous power through control of this commodity. And so whoever is running Britain knows what's going on, even to this day. Dr. Coleman was a former MI6 intelligence agent, with access to secret British documents which tell the story.
The ugly little secrets hidden by our government in America, such as satanic ritual abuse of children to create mind control subjects, have been conducted in cooperation with Britain and the royal family. There is an international ring involved with this and other evils. Because of Britain's participation, I don't see how some of this could have gone on without Margaret Thatcher's knowledge.
At the levels the upper eschelons work in, the twists and turns and overwhelming deceptions and complications thrown at them, who knows the true motivations.
In the words of some old saying --Who knows what Lurks in the Hearts of Men (and Women).
Truthfully, for a long time now, I've wished I was a kid sometimes! But not really when I mull that horrible thought over {:-)
St. Petersburg Times
February 21, 1987
Five indicted in Sunrise S&L conspiracy
ByBRADLEY STERTZ
A federal grand jury indicted three top Sunrise Savings and Loan officers and two Boca Raton developers for conspiring to defraud the now-defunct thrift.
The 28-count indictment handed up Friday alleges that former Sunrise president Robert Jacoby, former senior vice president William C. Frame and former Sunrise Mortgage Corp. vice president Thomas Skubal developed a two-year conspiracy with developers William Frederick and Thomas Moy to conceal bad loans to the developers.
All five men are charged with conspiracy, misapplying bank funds and making false statements to the S&L. Jacoby and Frame were further charged with make false entries in the thrift's books.
Sunrise Savings, with $1.48-billion in assets, became the largest financial institution to collapse in Florida history when the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp. (FSLIC) closed it last September.
After Sunrise failed, the FSLIC assumed its bad loans and created Beach Federal Savings and Loan from its deposits and good loans. Sunrise had six offices along the Suncoast.
Federal regulators tried unsuccessfully to revive the Boynton Beach thrift a year before its failure by bringing in new management. But losses were too great.
Chief among the problems were loans to Frederick and Moy, which federal prosecutors said they have been investigating for two years. From 1983 to 1985, the two developers received $120-million in loans from Sunrise to develop shopping centers even though the thrift could legally lend them only $40-million.
According to the indictments, Sunrise allowed $4-million in overdrafts by Frederick and Moy. The Sunrise officials then created a series of sham loans, the indictments state, to conceal the overdrawn accounts.
St. Petersburg Times
August 10, 1988
Firm settles suit over failed thrift for $50-million // Partners founded Sunrise Savings & Loan
ByCompiled from Wire Reports
WASHINGTON - WASHINGTON - The Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp. (FSLIC) on Tuesday announced it will receive a $50-million settlement from a Philadelphia law firm that was instrumental in the founding of the failed Sunrise Savings and Loan Association.
The settlement with Blank, Rome, Comisky & McCauley is the largest to be paid by a law firm in the FSLIC's history. The firm's partners created Boynton Beach-based Sunrise in 1980 and represented the thrift during its boom years. In just five years, Sunrise increased its assets from $4.7-million to $1.5-billion. However, it got into trouble loaning millions of dollars to developers for ill-fated real-estate projects.
Sunrise, which had several offices on the Suncoast, also was well-known among investors for the high interest rates it offered to attract deposits.
When the FSLIC shut Sunrise down in 1986, the $681-million bailout was the largest in the agency's history. Sunrise's insured accounts were transferred to a new thrift, Beach Federal Savings and Loan Association, which became one of the largest savings institutions in the Federal Home Loan Bank Board's management consignment program.
The FSLIC accused the law firm of acting negligently in giving advice to Sunrise, improperly closing loans, aiding former Sunrise officials in violating laws and banking regulations and engaging in conflicts of interest.
''This settlement demonstrates that where violations contributing to insolvency are caused by the negligence or malpractice of professionals, including law firms, the bank board will hold them, as well as thrift management, fully responsible and accountable,'' M. Danny Wall, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, said in a prepared statement.
About $10-million of the $50-million will be set aside as an indemnity fund to cover claims by outside parties against Blank Rome in connection with its representation of Sunrise.
Under a sharing agreement, proceeds from the settlement will be divided among the FSLIC and former stock owners of Sunrise. The FSLIC said it will receive 72 percent of the first $40-million and 95 percent of the remaining $10-million.
David Girard-di Carlo, managing partner of Blank Rome, said Tuesday the settlement was in the best interest of the firm, but said Blank Rome continued to deny the allegations.
The Blank Rome settlement was filed with the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, where all the Sunrise lawsuits have been consolidated. As a result of the settlement, Blank Rome has been dropped as a defendant in a $250-million lawsuit the FSLIC filed against former Sunrise directors and officers.
David Berger, a Philadelphia lawyer representing the shareholders, said it was an ''excellent settlement.''
" were their symbiotic relationships to the Mafia and the CIA,"
That is redundant.
From the second webpage on the link above, Coleman says this:
"HERITAGE FOUNDATION Founded by brewery magnate Joseph Coors to act as a conservative think tank, Heritage was soon taken over by Fabianists Sir Peter Vickers Hall, Stuart Butler, Steven Ayzlei, Robert Moss and Frederich Von Hayek under the direction of the Club of Rome. This institute played a major role in carrying out British Labour leader Anthony Wedgewood Benn's order to 'Thatcherize Reagan.' Heritage is certainly not a conservative operation although at times it may look and sound like one."
And from his 1997 edition (pp 42-43) he writes:
"...hard evidence is difficult to come by. But there is some hard evidence. Witness the slavish manner in which former President George Bush rushed to carry out the orders he received from Margaret Thatcher to begin the Gulf War, and again, how Prime Minister John Major imposed the Committee's United Nations agenda on the Bush administration, even to the extent of forcing Bush to go along with the appointment of Bhutros Ghali as the new United Nations Secretary General. Bush was told...Ghali was a former member of British intelligence MI6..."
Something still seems backwards to me ... if only because I'm still assuming the best about Reagan. I can see Thatcher being 'Reaganized' and portraying a closeness or admiration she may not actually have felt (for whatever reason) ... I can even see that sort of thing actually happening (and leading to her comments re: Bush in her biography).
I guess I'll have to see if I can track down Vol. I and note for myself how she couches Bush's behavior in the Kuwait crisis. Somehow, I still believe it was the US (and their "strategic partners" both in trade and bio-weapons) who had the most to gain and the most to lose -- barring UN authorization or complete support -- during the war games that ensued.
bump
Bttt.
Pssssst... Wallaby- you cant put Bush's name in the title or all the Bushies will disregard it since they are so enamoured with him....
bttt
BTTT
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Board of Directors
Chairman
Prescott S. Bush, Jr.
Prescott Bush Resources, Ltd
Maybe the players moved their action to Communist China. Would help explain the appeasement of Permanent Normal Trade Relations.
"What, me worry?"
--Alfred E. Neuman For President Committee
"FARHAD AZIMA, Iranian native close to Pahlavi family; Kansas city airline owner; board member and stockholder of Kansas City bank controlled by the mob; CIA asset protected by CIA from criminal prosecution. "
And as you and I both know, his personal attorney used to be..........
'Senator Fred' of 'We'll get to the bottom of this Chinese espionage "thingy"...' fame.
"FARHAD AZIMA, Iranian native close to Pahlavi family; Kansas city airline owner; board member and stockholder of Kansas City bank controlled by the mob; CIA asset protected by CIA from criminal prosecution. "
And a major supporter of Who, again?
You mean which 'faction'?
btw, I was watching a 'debate' on C-span this afternoon, in between copious nods, and they had a Bore and a Gush 'foreign policy' expert.
The Bore guy was sanctimonious beyond the belief. The Gush guy was permanently bloated, but likable, in a sleepy kind of way.
Both were lying at an incredible clip.
Vote for Fulchanan.
mbb bill and wallaby were both on this thread today...in the meantime, somewhere in the United States someone DIED!
Coincidence?
13 Posted on 02/05/2000 10:15:47 PST by Wallaby (wallaby@altavista.net)
You're 4+ months late about Wallaby. And mbb bill hasn't been on this thread.
Have you been hitting the sauce or what? Please don't become paranoid.
mbb bill was post number 7. If he was not then I challenge you to tell me who was.
oh...and as for wallaby..he started the thread. Now who is on the sauce bright boy?
What point were you trying to make in #47?
Look at the dates; look at your statement in #47. Don't act so dim.
That the lead post is nothing but a bunch of lies. Its proof that anybody with a home printing press and/or anybody with enough money to have a book privatly printed can write anything based on scant information and fabrication.
Now...I answered your questions. Please answer mine. Who entered the 7th post on this thread since you said it was not mbb bill and I was "hitting the sauce"?
"in the meantime, somewhere in the United States someone DIED!
Coincidence?"
I think NOT!!
O.K. Do YOU know who did it?
Reply #7 was mbb bill. I stand corrected. I did a quick "mbb" text search, but it didn't show. Should I kill my computer or my browser? Peace.
Probably Bill Clinton or Johnny Morris...not sure yet.
We are all on the same side. As for me I did not notice that this thread had started on the 4th. Peace.
"Probably Bill Clinton or Johnny Morris...not sure yet."
Ahhh, Grasshopper, you have been here before, I sense.
And you are from my part of the universe, I sense.
Does Artemis Webb ring a bell? :o)
They did a job on ol' Pete Rea, huh? :-)
Went and cost them a BUNCH of Money, and Time.
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He's Electable!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTTT
CLEMARD JOSEPH CHARLES, Haitian exile who laundered money for Mario Renda to bribe union officials; CIA asset; mob money launderer; associate of Miami lawyer who represented Lawrence Freeman
Would you happen to know the name of the Miami lawyer?
I can't find that information right now, but I think I can get back to you with it.
'The S&L scandal was almost the perfect crime. The layers of protection and insulation between what the public discovered was going on at the savings and loans and what actually happened with the money were so many and so thick that the crimes and theft would never be completely figured out. And even if the truth were ultimately unearthed, there were additional layers between that revelation and the bringing of those responsible to the bar of justice and recovering the money."
FYI
regards.
CLEMARD JOSEPH CHARLES, Haitian exile who laundered money for Mario Renda to bribe union officials; CIA asset; mob money launderer; associate of Miami lawyer who represented Lawrence Freeman
>Would you happen to know the name of the Miami lawyer?
Albert Krieger
I may be wrong but I think that Krieger also defended someone in the Greenpalm scandal.
Thanks for the heads up and the lead!
Albert Krieger was John Gotti's attorney. He was also one the attorneys that defended Calvin Grigsby in one of the trials associated with Greenpalm.
bttt
It's definitely a closed loop now. The corruption and control is so tight that nothing save a cataclysm of National significance can disrupt the stranglehold..
Sorry to sound defeatist, but I consider myself a realist. If you're not religious, there's not much hope :-)
'The S&L scandal was almost the perfect crime. The layers of protection and insulation between what the public discovered was going on at the savings and loans and what actually happened with the money were so many and so thick that the crimes and theft would never be completely figured out. And even if the truth were ultimately unearthed, there were additional layers between that revelation and the bringing of those responsible to the bar of justice and recovering the money."
Point taken - and many thanks. It was almost the perfect crime, but for state regulator Art Leiser, a phenomenal individual who really was the first person to outline how the S&L's in the Southwest were so intertwined.
On this thread, I can speak to more than just Whitewater...because I worked for Jarrett Woods at Western Savings before it went down in 1986. Here's the abridged version: two weeks after I arrived there in 2/86, I sat in on my first loan negotiation - and started taking notes. Nothing passed the smell test, and it was a classic "dead cow for a dead horse" loan swap. Time to start documenting what was going on around me. That info was shared with the FBI after the Western Savings take down in 9/86. Ultimately, it was that experience at Western that put my feet on the path of taking S&L deals apart, putting them back together, and tracking the money.
During the course of the five years I worked for Western, it went through 4 government take-downs, and was finally merged with 8 other S&L's (the most blatantly egregious of the offenders) including Tom Gaubert's Independent Savings and Ed McBirney's Sunbelt Savings. When that happened, all the scattered puzzle pieces were returned to the box and real puzzle picture began to emerge; following those money trails, my path crossed with myriad lawyers in both civil and criminal suits, civil depositions, numerous grand juries, and finally, testifying at Jarrett Woods criminal trial. Much of my work focused on tracking loan funds to several of the names mentioned in the previously noted cast of charaters from the book - which, incidentally, I read several years ago. More on that shortly...
Much of my time was spent reconstructing loan transactions involving George Aubin, JB Haralson, John Roberts, Ed McBirney, John Riddle, Hames Hague, Kenneth Good, Tom Gaubert, Don Dixon, HK Beebe, John Ballis, Ken Hood and Jarret Woods. It took years to unravel and prosecute the fraud created by these men, who knew exactly what they were doing once the S&L's were deregulated in '82 by the Garn-St. Germain act. However, most of them were subsequently convicted and are now out of jail.
The S&L crisis really was the "almost perfect crime." Being at ground zero when the de-reg bomb went off certainly offered an unfettered view of how the well heeled, white collar criminal is born and nurtured.
As to the book, there is much truth in what it says about the S&L owners...but there are also, IMHO, some serious reaches regarding the Bush family. The author poses some interesting theories, but it would take a two week seminar on just the preliminaries of the characters before enough foundation could be laid to debunk most of the myth.
Okay, I'll crawl back off my soapbox. Its just interesting to ponder it all again after so many years...
L. Jean
very insightful. thanx for your perspective.
From Peter Dale Scott's review of Posner's 'book':
[in part]" On the now-hoary question of whether Oswald's protector in Dallas, George de Mohrenschildt, had a CIA relationship, Posner reverts to the Warren Commission method of letting the CIA answer the question: "CIA officials have provided sworn testimony that there was no de Mohrenschildt-U.S. intelligence relationship."3 That will not work in 1993. In 1978 the House Select Committee on Assassinations revealed that, when leaving Dallas in May 1963 for Haiti, de Mohrenschildt traveled to Washington and took part in a Pentagon-CIA meeting with de Mohrenschildt's business ally, a Haitian banker named Clemard Joseph Charles. A former CIA contract agent has since suggested that one of de Mohrenschildt's purposes in moving to Haiti was to oversee a CIA-approved plot to overthrow Haitian dictator Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier.4 "
Thanks for the additional information, Boyd.
Amazing place, this Free Republic. I originally post this piece on a thread named "What Jean Lewis Knows" and on this thread, we hear what you know from you, yourself!
>it would take a two week seminar on just the preliminaries of the characters before enough foundation could be laid to debunk most of the myth.
If you'd ever choose to post some of the notes you would use to teach such a two week seminar, please flag me.
Wallaby had a good suggestion. Ready to do it?
...when leaving Dallas in May 1963 for Haiti, de Mohrenschildt traveled to Washington and took part in a Pentagon-CIA meeting with de Mohrenschildt's business ally, a Haitian banker named Clemard Joseph Charles. A former CIA contract agent has since suggested that one of de Mohrenschildt's purposes in moving to Haiti was to oversee a CIA-approved plot to overthrow Haitian dictator Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier.4
anything ring a bell here, indy?
Not at the moment.:)
'Around April of 1963, de Mohrenschildt moves to Haiti and goes into business with CLEMARD JOSEPH CHARLES who works in turn with Haitian President "Papa Doc" Duvalier. Charles most likely works as Duvalier's "bag man"; i.e. his job apparently involves bringing bags of money from Duvalier to U.S. politicians. It is also possible that Charles was a conduit of funds for CIA. Decades later, one of Clemard Charles' corporate fronts is the St. Charles Pacific Peace Organization. The Treasurer of the organization is Frank Sturgis. '
I believe the late Mr. Brown served a stint under PDD in Haiti.
This is one class to which I'd make it on time.
86 Posted on 12/30/2001 00:20:22 PST by Askel5
Not if I could help it. Way too early.
87 Posted on 12/30/2001 00:23:15 PST by nunya bidness
88 Posted on 12/30/2001 00:30:00 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
I'd drop back into school for it.
89 Posted on 12/30/2001 00:36:35 PST by hogwaller
The same theme heard all through the Clinton impeachment as well -- either incompetence or intention -- caused failures. Yesterday I heard Hitchens use a more concrete term to describe Clinton foreign policy
culpable negligence
that removes the confusing fuzzy ambiguity about these actions. I think we all have to realize that we are being too kind to the criminals in power when we ignore the fact that the appearance of repeated incompetetence is after a short while the mechanism the criminals use to obfuscate their own behavior. Clinton's 'SNAFU' for example.
Get used to it. We need to be not so kind to the criminals as has been occurring. Rather, recognize the threshold that takes incompetence into
culpable negligence.
90 Posted on 12/30/2001 00:49:51 PST by flamefront
While I'm no fan of "former radicals" -- yet still pro-abort atheists -- who counsel the right to take all the wrong pages from the Left's playbook, I'll admit it's a delight to have certain of the left's wordsmiths writing on 'our side' for a change.
I particularly admire Hitchens. I was thoroughly impressed with the way he stood up during Q&A after supper at the Treason Rally and reminded all that he did NOT agree with us (save on the question of Clinton's treason).
Contrary to a calculating, thoroughly self-serving stuntman like Horowitz, it indicated to me a man who's actually following his conscience and not merely some political hack recalibrating his bent to make some bucks off the Right.
91 Posted on 12/30/2001 05:30:58 PST by Askel5
92 Posted on 01/21/2002 17:42:59 PST by rdavis84
93 Posted on 03/02/2002 11:50:07 PST by independentmind
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