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Her View Maitreya Is
The Antichrist
From Rick Visneau <ricvis@knology.net>
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I couldn't decide whether to post this or not, but I listened to the interview of Ms. Keating on the Art Bell show several months back, and she strikes me as an honest person. She worked with the late Fr. Malachai Martin, and has researched the subject very well. The reason I posted it is because there have been several other threads discussing this in the past on FR, and it seemed to be something that alot of freepers were interested in.
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To: poisedwoman
fyi
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To: Space Wrangler
Just to make sure no one from the tin-foil brigade gets this confused, Kathleen Keating should not be mistaken for Cathy Keating, first lady of Oklahoma and the wife of the future vice-president.
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To: ObfusGate
Did not realize that was the Gov. of OK's wife's name. Kathleen Keating was a research assistant for the late Father Malachai Martin, who dedicated his life to research on the AC, as well as the Fatima prophecies. No relation to the Governer of OK.
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To: Space Wrangler
Just who is Maitreya, and where does he live? What does he do for a living, and when is he supposed to make his move?
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To: Space Wrangler
Maitreya Is The Antichrist
OK, that's ONE question answered.
Next question
Who / what is Maitreya?
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To: Space Wrangler
Stay out of the sun.
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To: Space Wrangler
Who is Maitreya?
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To: Space Wrangler
You might find this useful:
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To: Space Wrangler
The real question is, is he a Democrook, which he should be well qualified for.
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To: Space Wrangler
Maitreya is the Antichrist
No, dammit, I'm the antichrist, I'm the antichrist!
Will you people finally get it right for once?
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To: Space Wrangler
Maitreya's spokesperson was on Art Bells show last week or the week before. I heard alot of it. I think he is the anti-christ and alot of the callers did too.
I had been wondering who Kathleen Keating thought was the anti-christ for a long time, because she declined to say so on the art bell show earlier this year.
Now that she says thats who she thinks it is, I am more convinced.
Maitreya's info website is http://www.shareintl.org/
Sorry I cant make it link.
Phil
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To: Space Wrangler
Well if you want to know there are a lot of antichrists on the earth right now.
"It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist - he denies the Father and the Son." I John 2:22
"But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world." I John 4:3
Do you know how many people throughout the ages have claimed that "The" antichrist is on earth now?
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To: Space Wrangler
Sorry. My number is 668, which means I am Nieghbor of the Beast, and it turns out that the AntiChrist is little old 72 year old Elsie Maven, arthritic grandmother of 4. She makes a mean chocolate chip cookie.
A very mean chocolate chip cookie.
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To: bigsur
I thought it was my turn to be the anti-Christ today . I'm sure it's my turn.
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Gang,
Check out: here for more info.
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To: Izzy Dunne, Yellow Rose of Texas
Take a look Here to find out. Judge for yourself.
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Is Bono the Anti-Christ?
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To: mit
Hey, I agree with you for once. It is your turn to be the antichrist today! :-)
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To: bigsur
No, dammit, I'm the antichrist, I'm the antichrist!
Elsie Maven is the antichrist.
The antichrist wears support hose and needs a hearing aid.
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To: twinmag
lmao
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To: Space Wrangler
But you have an annointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. Who is the liar? It is the man who denies Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
See that you what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you will also remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what He has promised us--even eternal life.
Your best weapon against this person is familiarity with God's word. If you know God, you will know the AntiChrist as well.
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To: Lazamataz
Wasn't she in The Matrix?
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To: Space Wrangler
The real test is... does he liken himself to Elvis?
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To: twinmag
The world teacher as he calls himself, lord maitreya. Lord maitreya claims to be the one expected of by all major religions. He claims to be the Messiah that the Jews are waiting for. He claims to the Krishna who the Hindus expect to arrive. He claims to be maitreya Buddha whom the Buddhists expect. He claims to be Imam Mahdi or the Messiah that the Muslims are looking for. But even more shocking he claims to the be Christ whom Christians are waiting for.
Maitreya means Lord of Love. He claims to have fulfilled 2 Thes. 4:17 as the Christ came in the clouds when he flew in an airplane from the Himalayas. All others that claim to be Christ are the false christs and he even holds claim to Matthew 24:4,5. "According to esoteric teachings, Maitreya manifested himself 2,000 years ago in Palestine by overshadowing his disciple Jesus, now the Master Jesus. This time Maitreya has come himself." as quoted right from his web site.
"Jesus of Nazareth and the Christ are not one and the same person." Maitreya claims that Jesus was nothing more than a master of wisdom such as Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed had each become a master of wisdom. According to Maitreya, Jesus was nothing more than a man that allowed Maitreya to use his body. Maitreya is the so called energy, the Christ-principle, that Jesus was allowed to manifest. According Maitreya, "It was, therefore, the consciousness of the Christ, Maitreya, which was seen and experienced by those around Jesus. The answer is that Jesus was a man who, as a result of the process of evolution, became a Son of God -- as does everyone eventually."
"Jesus' death was the fulfillment of the task for that life, and it was Maitreya who resurrected the body from the tomb. This presentation of ancient occult knowledge in symbolic form is one of the methods which the Spiritual Hierarchy uses to teach humanity, and to convey knowledge to those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.
"The Master Jesus has been living in Rome for over four years, and He will take over the throne of St Peter. The Christian world is to be awakened... to recognize their place within a worldwide divine revelation and see the Christ as representing all the faiths and taking His rightful place as World Teacher. He is the World Teacher and not a Christian teacher. He Himself told us that He had other folds and to them He has meant as much as He has meant to the orthodox Christian. They may not call Him Christ, but they have their own name for Him and follow Him as truly and faithfully as their Western brethren."
According to Maitreya there is a day approaching called the Day of Declaration. This day where the entire world will hear or see Maitreya. He supposedly will be broadcast to the world, on every radio and television station. Maitreya even claims those that do not have a television or a radio on will hear him in their own language and dialect in their minds. He claims on this day that there will be millions of healings where the world will know that the "Christ" has come."
"All eyes will see Him will be fulfilled, in the only way in which it can be fulfilled. We will see His face, but He will not speak. His thoughts, His ideas, His call to humanity for justice, sharing, right relationships and peace, will take place silently, telepathically. Each of us will hear Him inwardly in our own language. In this way, He will re-enact on a world-wide scale the true happenings of Pentecost 2,000 years ago."
(POSTER'S NOTE: Frankly, this sounds like horse hockey to me.)
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To: Dog Gone
I KNEW that you would agree with me!!!! That means I MUST be the anti-Christ today.
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To: Lurking Libertarian
"Who is Maitreya?"
He is the head master. Christ served under him. That would make him an antichrist wanna be at least.
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To: Lurking Libertarian
From reading a little the tripe from his website, I'd say he is has to be a frontrunner in the vice-prez sweepstakes for Algore.
His Top Two Priorities (inspire mankind to...)
[1] Share the world's resources
[2] Restore the earth's ecological balance
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To: Hootowl
Yeah-- It does seem almost a little too obvious doesn't it? I just posted here for discussion purposes, as I find this a most interesting subject. It's all just a little to neat, with Matriyea wearing the turbin and all. Who knows? I sure don't claim to, just wanted to see some discussion on the matter.
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To: Joee
From the website linked above:
His Top Two Priorities (inspire mankind to...)
[1] Share the world's resources
[2] Restore the earth's ecological balance
Yup...sure sounds like a Democrap to me...LOL!
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To: Space Wrangler
I've read a lot of different speculations on how and when the beast will come, but, this one does make a lot of sense, considering the technology we have now. Having an ET come and bring peace to the world and advance our technology would sure win a lot of support.
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To: Lazamataz
These things are so painful to hand out on threads like this... but what choice is there?!
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To: mit
"That means I MUST be the anti-Christ today."
If you answer this question correctly, you might qualify.
Would you send Christ back to Castro too?
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To: Space Wrangler, et. al.
The anitchrist, reguardless of the title he uses, will be the one who establishes a short period of peace in the middle east, when the Israelies will feel secure in a land of unwalled villages, which is definitely not the case now. By this reason, moreso than any other, he will be hailed as the savior (the Israelies will call him the messiah and honor him as such), of the world, having come up with an equitable solution to that eternal struggle.
The period of peace will end when he declares himself to be God.
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To: Hootowl
Sounds like quite a resume. You sure this isn't Al Gore were talking about?
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To: Space Wrangler
Antichrist, panty-christ. I'm going to Valhalla. You Xtians can battle it out.
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To: bigsur
...and upon his tinfoil helmet were the numbers six hundred three score and six...
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To: Space Wrangler
After looking at his picture I am quite disappointed. He doesn't look very evil. I figured he would look more like Rasputin with the hypnotic eyes. Oh no I made a big mistake! I forgot your not suppoused to look at the antichrists eyes.
I read Kathleen Keatings book "the Final Warning". There was nothing really new in it that I haven't seen elsewhere. I was a little ticked off that right in the middle of the book she starts trying to sell products(although the prices listed are slightly cheaper purchased through the book than at the local religious store). I had flashbacks to Y2K. I try to read those types of books as good science fiction never putting too much faith in them.
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To: goliath
or check here
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To: teresat
Reading through this thread it seems some have skipped right over skepticism and gone straight to ridicule.
A few years ago I came across a few verses in Second Peter which seem appropriate to the discussion.
"He is especially hard on those who follow their own evil, lustful thoughts, and those who are proud and willful, daring even to scoff at the Glorius Ones without so much as trembling. Although the Angels in heaven who stand in the very presence of the Lord, and are far greater in power and strength than these false teachers, never speak out disrespectfully of these evil Mighty Ones.
But false teachers are fools- no better than animals. They do what ever they feel like; born only to be caught and killed, they laugh at the terrifying powers of the underworld which they know so little about; and they will be destroyed along with all the demons and powers of hell."
One time my Daughter asked me where the expression "fools rush in where Angels fear to tread" came from. I gave her the best answer I could but wish I had been familiar with these verses at the time.
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To: Space Wrangler
Trying to guess who the Anti-christ is is pointless and even counterproductive.
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To: Thinkin' Gal
The real test is... does he liken himself to Elvis?
Could there possibly be an anti-Elvis?
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To: teresat
After looking at his picture I am quite disappointed.
He does look like an extra in Lawrence of Arabia.
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To: Space Wrangler; cc: logos, Phaedrus, cornelis, angelo, annalex, Askel5, Physicist, untenured
Religious believers who do not succumb to the deception will be quickly discounted as lunatics, eventually persecuted to death for standing in the way of the advancement of 'the new golden age' this deceiver would usher in (Maitreya's Benjamin Crème and many others in the new age theosophist movement have openly said that Christians and Jews and others who would not accept the new "lord" would have to be 'dealt with' and in some places have said 'removed' from the way). He will come with all the answers, and settling debts and disputes.... how? What sort of power could do this? That could make this prophetic statement vital: "Who is like the beast, and who can make war with him?"
Hello Space Wrangler! What a wild post! Really wild for me, because I know Benjamin Creme personally. I haven't seen him in fifteen years, and have completely lost contact with him and the "crowd" around him; for all I know, he's gone on to his Reward by now....
Back in ’85 I had the great fun of knocking back a few Dewars with “Ben,” just the two of us. He’s an enormously engaging, charismatic personality and a great conversationalist -- a pink-cheeked cherub of a man, with mischievous blue eyes and a shock of wispy white hair. A British subject, he is a man of working class origins and distinctly socialist leanings. We had a nice chat about philosophy and politics. Turns out, he doesn’t much care for the United States. Thinks our culture of greed is setting a bad example for the rest of the world, or something like that. Plus we don’t deserve to be so rich while there are so many poor starving people in the world. We also discussed his work and his books, a couple of which I had read.
“Ben” has a devoted following of would-be disciples and “initiates” in the United States, and visits often for the “laying on of the hands,” to teach group mediation techniques, and to raise the mystical consciousness of his cult following. I won’t go into his work and his sources here; I doubt there are even a few FReepers who’d be interested in “Arcane School” esotericism, a strange amalgam of Christianity and Buddhism with a strong, scientistic bent. Suffice it to say it has been thriving for about a 100 years now, in breathless anticipation of the “Externalization of the Masters of the Hierarchy,” the “Lord Maitreya, the Christ” being the leading figure of that bunch.
But I just have to give you a sample of “Ben” before signing off here. Here’s an excerpt from his Introduction to Messages from Maitreya the Christ (London and Los Angeles: The Tara Press, 1980).
“On July 19th, 1977, the Christ, Maitreya, the World Teacher, Head of our Spiritual Hierarchy, emerged from His ancient retreat and is now in the modern world. With His Disciples, the Masters of Wisdom, He will inaugurate the new age of synthesis and brotherhood.
“Early in September 1977 I was asked if I would take, publicly, communications from Him which, since 1974, I have received in the privacy of the group with which I work. I said I would try, do my best. On September 6th, 1977, the first public Message was given at Friend’s House, Euston Road, London, experimentally, to find out how I stood up to this kind of mental overshadowing and spiritual telepathy in public….
“No trance or mediumship is involved, and the voice is mine, strengthened and altered in pitch by the overshadowing energy of Maitreya. [The messages] are transmitted simultaneously on all the astral and mental planes, while I supply the basic etheric-physical vibration for this to take place. From these subtle levels, the Messages impress the minds and hearts of countless people who are gradually made aware of the thoughts and the Presence of Christ. A great thought-form is being built, on the inner planes, embodying the fact of the Christ’s Presence. This thought-form is then tuned into by the sensitives, clairvoyants and mediums of the world who from now on will increasingly bring in (in more or less distorted form) the information of the Christ’s return. He releases in this way fragments of His Teaching, to prepare the climate of hope and expectancy which will ensure His being accepted and followed, quickly and gladly….
“[I]f people can rid their minds of the idea of the Christ as some sort of spirit, sitting in ‘heaven’ at God’s right hand; if they can begin to see Him as indeed He is, as a real and living man (albeit a Divine man) who has never left the world; who descended not from ‘heaven’ but from His ancient retreat in the Himalayas, to begin the task He began in Palestine; as a great Master, an Adept and Yogi; as the chief actor in a Gospel Story which is essentially true, but much simpler than hitherto presented…. [Then??? “Ben” never completes the sentence….]
"Through these communications Maitreya, the Christ suggests the lines that social change must take. He gives hints on how to recognize Him and urges His listeners to make known the fact of His Presence. He evokes also the desire to share and to serve humanity and Him.”
(Anyone smell the rat here?)
SW, as for the lady who said she saw Maitreya the Christ cavorting about her backyard (or wherever), and can positively identify him as the Antichrist, well what can I say? On the one hand, strictly speaking, that is probably a fantasy. But on the other, IMHO she might be on to something.
In closing, “Who is like the beast, and who can make war with him?” That is a most excellent puzzler! Ideas, anyone?
Thank you, SW, for posting this. It’s nutty as all get-out, but it made me laugh – and remember some things I haven’t thought about for a long time. BTW, your timing is perfect: By “Ben’s” reckoning, today, July 19th, is the twenty-third anniversary of the Lord Maitreya’s “emergence” from his “ancient retreat”…. best wishes, bb.
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To: betty boop
I doubt there are even a few FReepers who’d be interested in “Arcane School” esotericism, a strange amalgam of Christianity and Buddhism with a strong, scientistic bent.
As long as there were no particular duties, instructions or prohibitions, I don't see why not. =)
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To: Smithp67
Share International, Maitreya's outfit, is registered as an official United Nations non-governmental organization (NGO).
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To: betty boop
(Personally ... I think the anti-Christ will be a wealthy, well-mannered, handsome man whose Vision for a more prosperous, peaceful and progressive world will only be enhanced by his fluency in many languages and erudite mastery of ancient texts as well as cutting edge modern thought. A true peacemaker reknown for his immeasureable personal charm and unassailable personal virtue. No whipping the moneychangers out of the temple for this guy. Rather, he'll make certain churches can afford to preserve the antiquities of an era that birthed our brave new world.)
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To: Everyone
See this link: U.N. plans to bring together 1,000 world religious leaders
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To: Hatteras
Nein! It's der Felon himself!
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To: Space Wrangler
Years ago I saw a video with Benjamin Creme, where he said (if I remember correctly), that the Pope was the antichrist, and that he (the Pope) would wave his hand in a strange pattern. This wave would signal the beginning of the endtimes, and he would then emerge as antichrist.
Creme demonstrated the "wave," and I tell ya, this guy may or may not be crazy, but he is definitely under demonic influence. Yuk!
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To: Space Wrangler
"You are the Antichrist!!!" - Pig Vomit addressing Howard Stern
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To: twinmag
You might find this useful:
I see you keep a good supply around for yourself.
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To: Everyone
Also check out: See in particular the article 'The Rise of the Green Religion'
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To: Space Wrangler
So it's not Hillary?
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To: Dataman
Looks like Dennis Miller in a rug to me...guess I won't be watching Monday Night Football
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To: PrairieDawg
OK I checked out your link, thanks. If that guy shows up at my door & tells me he is Christ, I won't have any trouble slamming the door in his face. (I would't have hesitated even BEFORE I checked him out.)
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To: Hootowl
If your description is accurate one can only answer the man's claim by the phrase- Oh! Yes, well...hmmm! The aforementioned stated while one's eyes dart nervously about searching for the nearest exit.
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To: Dataman
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To: Space Wrangler
Caesar Nero was the antichrist. Let's work for the long haul in restoring the US to a Constitutional Republic built upon the Christian religion and ethical monotheism instead of waiting for a secret rapture, looking for antichrists, beasts, etc. Love in Christ to all the brethren & sistren.
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To: PresbyRev
Pardon my eschatology, but if Nero was the Anti-Christ, isn't the Last Judgement imminent?
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Who is Maitreya?
More than likely, someone from the Indian subcontinent who speaks English. That is the only requisite for selling false-religions in the Western markets.
By the way, Hinduism is NOT a false-religion.
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To: Space Wrangler
And all this time I thought it was George Soros.
Oh well.
--Boris
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To: PresbyRev
A certain good sense to your post Rev.
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To: Dataman
And the woman was arrayed in purple and
scarlet colour,
and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls...
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To: Lazamataz
Sorry. My number is 668, which means I am Nieghbor of the Beast, and it turns out that the AntiChrist is little old 72 year old Elsie Maven, arthritic grandmother of 4. She makes a mean chocolate chip cookie.
Well, if you go to cleaning weaponry at home,
1) make sure they're unloaded
2) even so, don't point 'em in the direction of her house
Hate to see her with a head wound or anything...
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To: Space Wrangler, PrairieDawg
If I click on your links will I spend an eternity in damnation?
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To: Kerensky
"Caesar Nero was the antichrist."
You'll have to forgive the good Rev, Kerensky, but that's the kind of eschatology one ends up when secular humanism and political correctness is substituted for the Word of God.
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To: Lazamataz
Sorry. My number is 668, which means I am Neighbor of the Beast, and it turns out that the AntiChrist is little old 72 year old Elsie Maven, arthritic grandmother of 4. She makes a mean chocolate chip cookie.
Who lives at number 999, the upside down Anti-Christ?
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To: Solson
what, someone already got maitreya.com?
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Is believing in a false antichrist better or worse than believing in a false prophet?
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To: Thinkin' Gal
TG!!! No, no, no!!!
That woman is supposed to be beautiful. Mady is NOT beautiful.
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To: betty boop
I doubt there are even a few FReepers who’d be interested in “Arcane School” esotericism,
I think you are right, but you might find more than a few FReepers interested in "Arcane School" erotocism.
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To: Lazamataz
660 Approximate Number of the Beast
DCLXVI Roman Numeral of the Beast
665 Number of the Beast's Older Brother
667 Number of the Beast's Younger Sister
668 Number of the Beast's Neighbor
999 Number of the Australian Beast
333 Number of the Semi-Beast
66 Number of the Downsized Beast
666.0000 Number of the High Precision Beast
665.9997856 Number of the Beast on a Pentium
0.666 Number of the Millibeast
1/666 Reciprocal of the Beast
-666 Opposite of the Beast
666[-/(-1)] Imaginary Number of the Beast
6.66 x 102 Scientific Notation of the Beast
00666 Zip Code of the Beast
Form 10666 Special IRS Tax Forms for the Beast
6.66% 6-Year CD Rate at First Beast Bank of Hell,
$666 minimum deposit, $666 early withdrawal fee
$666/hr Billing Rate of the Beast's Lawyer
$665.95 Retail Price of the Beast
$699.25 Price of the Beast plus 5% State Sales Tax
$769.95 Price of the Beast with accessories and replacement soul
$656.66 Wal-Mart Price of the Beast
$646.66 Next week's Wal-Mart Price of the Beast
Phillips 666 Gasoline of the Beast
666i BMW of the Beast
Formula 666 All Purpose Cleaner of the Beast
WD-666 Spray Lubricant of the Beast
As for Maitreya, I've long suspected he's just Benjamin Creme's marvelous mythical meal ticket, a figure spun up out of thin air to sell books and get Creme some paying venues.
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