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E-MAIL CONTRACTOR ROBERT HAAS THREATENED WITH CLINTON BODY COUNT

Crime/Corruption Breaking News News Keywords: CLINTON-CLINTON-GOREJUDICIAL WATCH THUGGERY, CORRUPTION
Source: Judicial Watch, etherzone.com
Published: 8.15.00
Posted on 08/16/2000 05:01:37 PDT by Mia T

08-16-00

LIST OF CLINTON BODY COUNT LEFT ON CHAIR OF E-MAIL CONTRACTOR!

Shocking Revelation Squares With Other Such Evidence

Robert Haas Testified That the Clintons and the Gores Kept Secret E-Mail Accounts

Confirms That He Was Threatened By Clinton-Gore White House Officials

 
CLINTON BODY COUNT
http://etherzone.com/body.html
 
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 14, 2000
Contact: Richard Tomkins
(202) 646-5172
 
LIST OF DECEASED PERSONS LEFT ON CHAIR OF E-MAIL CONTRACTOR
 
Robert Haas Testified That The "Principals" (Bill and Hillary Clinton
And Al and Tipper Gore) Kept Secret E-Mail Accounts Never Before
Revealed To The Court Or The American People
 
Confirms That He Was Threatened By Clinton-Gore White House Officials
 
E-Mail Hearings to Continue at 10:00 a.m. on Tuesday, August 15, 2000
 
Date: Tuesday, August 15
 
Time: 10:00 a.m.
 
Place: Courtroom 21, Federal Courthouse
 
Third & Constitution Ave., NW
Judge: The Honorable Royce C. Lamberth
 
Lawsuit: Alexander, et al. vs. FBI, et al. (Filegate)
 
A press conference will be held on the Courthouse steps following
each day's hearing.
 
(Washington, D.C.) Today, Robert Haas, one of the Northrop Grumman
contractors who discovered and worked on the missing e-mail at the
Clinton-Gore White House, revealed that after he was threatened to
keep his mouth shut about what he had discovered, someone anonymously
left a death list on his chair of 58 people who had died during the
Clinton-Gore Administration. This shocking revelation squares with
other such evidence; such as the testimony of Linda Tripp, that a
similar death list was left on her chair on at least two occasions
during the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
 
Haas also revealed startling information that "The Principals" &endash;
Bill and Hillary Clinton and Al and Tipper Gore &endash; kept secret e-mail
accounts and have done so since the inception of the Clinton-Gore
Administration. This has never before been revealed to the Court
in Judicial Watch's Filegate litigation, the Congress, or the Office
of the Independent Counsel. These suppressed e-mail are likely the
"Rosetta Stone" of the Clinton-Gore Administration scandals.
 
Finally, Robert Haas revealed that as early as April, 1999, he and
others of the Office of Administration of the Clinton-Gore White
House knew that Al Gore's e-mail accounts were not being records
managed, and that many of these e-mails have now been lost permanently.
This further contradicts statements of the Clinton-Gore White House,
made before Congress by White House Counsel Beth Nolan, that the
problem was just recently discovered.
 
At the end of the day, Haas revealed that although he had informed
high officials of the Clinton-Gore White House that he had been
threatened a day before press accounts of the e-mail scandal broke
on February 19, 2000 on the frontpage.
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 08-04-00

U.S. Attorney Part of clinton-clinton-Gore-Reno e-mail-gate RICO Conspiracy

Thuggery Essential Component of clinton-clinton-Gore Obstruction of Justice

Nothing Less than JAIL Warranted for clinton-clinton-Gore Cabal

 

U.S. attorney sat on e-mail threat

Told court charges unfounded, though
witness confirmed them in phone call
 
 
By Paul Sperry
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com
 
WASHINGTON -- A U.S. attorney fighting a lawsuit
against the White House dropped a Clinton appointee
from his witness list after she told him in a phone call that
White House officials threatened workers to keep the
Project X e-mail scandal under wraps.
 
Just a few weeks later, the Justice Department lawyer --
James J. Gilligan -- signed a court pleading arguing to
dismiss Judicial Watch witness' charges of threats as
"unfounded."
 
Gilligan may find himself in his own legal troubles over the
failure to disclose the serious and relevant information to
the court.
 
Kathleen Gallant, the witness Gilligan thought would be
friendly to the White House's case, instead testified
earlier this week for Judicial Watch. She said Gilligan
called her in late February at her office in Chantilly, Va.,
where she works for high-tech contractor CACI Inc.
 
Gallant, who headed the White House's data-processing
division until October 1998, said Gilligan asked her if she
cared to be deposed by the defense.
 
After she told Gilligan he might not like what she had to
say -- and proceeded to tell him -- he never contacted
her again, Gallant said.
 
She said that in their roughly 90-minute phone call, she
told Gilligan that top Clinton aide Mark Lindsay ordered
her in June 1998 to keep Project X a secret and not even
to record anything about the two-year gap in West Wing
e-mails, which were under subpoena by Judicial Watch
and federal investigators at the time.
 
She also informed Gilligan that White House computer
contractors told her in June 1998 that Lindsay and a
close confidant of his threatened the technicians to keep
quiet.
 
Gallant said Gilligan took notes during their conversation.
 
Gilligan never deposed Gallant. Then on March 6,
responding to a Feb. 19 declaration about the threats
from former White House computer manager Sheryl Hall,
he argued in a pleading to U.S. District Judge Royce
Lamberth that the charges are "factually unfounded."
 
The pleading also calls the allegations "offensive."
Nowhere in the 18-page filing or any of its supplements
does Gilligan disclose Gallant's corroboration of the
threats -- which he had heard only weeks earlier.
 
The threats are key to Judicial Watch's case, because
they bear on whether the White House is acting in good
faith in turning over subpoenaed evidence in the
discovery phase of the public-interest law firm's $90
million class-action Filegate suit against the White House.
Plaintiffs are hoping to find relevant information in the
trove of missing e-mail, which still hasn't been searched.
 
Judicial Watch Chairman Larry Klayman has asked
Lamberth to order Gilligan to turn over his notes from his
February phone interview. He says they may show the
extent to which Gilligan knew of the details of the Project
X threats and secrecy before he filed his pleading.
 
Asked how many pages of notes he took, Gilligan told
WorldNetDaily: "That's for me to know and Larry
Klayman to find out."
 
Are you concerned?
 
"No comment," he snapped.
 
As a U.S. attorney, Gilligan is held to a higher standard
of disclosure than a personal defense attorney -- such as
the first couple's lawyer David Kendall -- and is
obligated to tell the court such information. (Kendall
attended some of this week's hearings.)
 
Failure to do so is not just malpractice, but possibly a
crime, legal experts say, and could get Gilligan in very hot
water.
 
 
 

  07-12-00

White House tightens grip on e-mail project

Gore whistle-blower booted from area

Restoration contractor gags workers

 
06-30-00

BREAKING NEWS! DOJ Confirms Secret "Firewalls" Exist for White House Computers

Contain previously undisclosed inventories of White House e-mails

Lamberth: White House claim that it will take a year to retrieve subpoenaed e-mail is unacceptable (It is also absurd)

 
 
 
 
 

Insight Magazine

 
BREAKING NEWS!
DOJ Confirms Secret "Firewalls" Exist for White House Computers
 
6/30/00 - A Justice Department lawyer June 30 admitted in federal district court that
indeed there exists previously undisclosed inventories of White House e-mails
captured by computer- system firewalls &endash; protective buffers on a computer system
apparently unknown by the Clinton/Gore administration.
 
Betsy Shapiro, the Justice lawyer defending the White House in the "Filegate" case
brought by Judicial Watch, told U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth that
though she was prohibited "for security reasons" to provide specific details on this
previously unknown firewall protection system and its capture of e-mails, there are
inventories of such e-mails stored on backup tapes.
 
These would be in addition to otherwise normally stored emails at the White House.
 
Insight was the first to disclose the existence of this firewall system &endash; and the
fact that it was capable of capturing e-mail &endash; in early June (see Insight Online,
"Electronic Skullduggery?" June 19).
 
Shapiro said that while it appears backup tapes on this computer firewall system are
maintained they only go back for about four months. She did not clarify whether such
tapes are made every four months and stored or whether they are only maintained for
up to four months.
 
She also told Lamberth that while the firewall computer backups appear to store the
outgoing and incoming e-mail of White House electronic traffic, they do not store the
text or any attachments, but only the name of the sender and recipient and apparently
the date and time sent.
 
Insight learned of the secret White House firewall-system "inventories" when asking
questions about why it appears to be so difficult for the White House to 1) capture
e-mail, 2) maintain e-mail,
3) read stored e-mail and 4) reconstruct such e-mail as requested by various courts,
federal law-enforcement agencies and Congress.
 
Insight was the first to break the White House e-mail caper back in
1998 (see related stories located in Insight Online's Investigative Archives and in
the Exclusive Reports section) plus the still simmering matter of overlooked
telephone-record call-detail reports going back several years.
 
Shapiro also told Lamberth that, despite its best efforts, the White House will not
be able to comply with the court's order to turn over copies of e-mails requested by
Judicial Watch for possibly another year.
 
Interestingly, the White House secretly was ordered weeks ago &endash; based on an order
unsealed June 30 by the judge &endash; to turn over original e-mail tapes to unknown federal
law-enforcement agencies.
Shapiro said that deals have been struck with these law enforcement sources to now
accomplish the court's order. Effectively, Insight is told, the White House will
turn over original tapes of stored emails and then "mirror" copies will be given back
to the Clinton administration. Why the White House is capable of finding and turning
over such e-mail tapes to federal law-enforcement authorities but not to Congress or
the court in the Filegate case was not made clear by Shapiro, Lamberth or others by
deadline.
 
What is clear, however, is that the judge said waiting up to a year for the White
House to turn over court-ordered copies of selected e-mails to Judicial Watch was
unacceptable. What remedy Lamberth may seek is unknown. However, when Insight
checked with sources within federal law-enforcement, it was made clear that based on
early reviews of such materials (directly and through other sources) they did not
find it difficult to retrieve the sought-after electronic messages.
 
Much was the same two years ago when a White House computer contractor was able to
reconstruct thousands of e-mails in short order. This was done under the guise of
"Project X" &endash; a secret project begun once the White House was informed of a massive
computer glitch that diverted up to 1 million e-mails to a default computer server
instead of to an authorized backup system.
 
The result of this glitch was that scores of subpoenas for White House e-mail traffic
never were turned over to Congress, federal law-enforcement agencies, independent
counsels and Judicial Watch (among others).
 
Existence of the "secret" White House computer-firewall-system e-mail captures and
backup tapes adds yet another layer of complications for Clinton/Gore administration
officials who have been stung by the continuing revelations of hidden, secret or
otherwise, unknown e-mails involving a cast of characters linked to various scandals.
 
By Paul M. Rodriguez
 
Managing Editor

 
 
   
 

 05-11-00

YET MORE CLINTON OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, RICO CRIMES, TREASON

Justice Dept. Replaces Prosecutor in Wen Ho Lee Nuclear Secrets Case

Lee's lawyer: "This is good news for Dr. Lee, as Mr. Gorence was an experienced prosecutor"
 

05-10-00

THE CLINTONS OBSTRUCT JUSTICE AGAIN/HILLARY CLINTON CLAIMS "BOGUS" SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE IN WILLEY MATTER

SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE CLAIM UNDERSCORES HILLARY CLINTON'S CHRONIC CO-RAPIST ROLE, RELEVANCY OF CLINTON RAPES & OTHER PREDATIONS TO SENATE RUN

 

05-03-00

MORE CLINTON OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, RICO CRIMES

Sidney Blumenthal Deleted Large Volume Of E-mail In December 1998 at Height of Impeachment Crisis

Smoking-Gun Memo by WH computer specialist: White House discusses deleting E-mail to Blumenthal from automated, permanent archives

 

04-29-00

White House Press Corps Useful Idiots

Mindlessly Swallow clinton Agitprop as They Yuk It Up at Correspondents' Dinner

ALLENESQUE-NEBBISH-MEETS-COUNTRY-BUMPKIN VIDEO PORTRAYS CLINTON AS E-MAIL ILLITERATE EVEN AS E-MAIL-GATE EXPLODES BEFORE THEIR VERY EYES

 
 

05-02-00

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE REDUX:
CLINTON DOES NOT WAIVE RIGHT TO ASSERT EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE IN E-MAIL SCANDAL
 
 

04-28-00

Clinton rigged Arkansas phone system to hide fund-raising calls: state official

clinton-gore rigged White House phone system to hide illegalities, to circumvent subpoenas/ Cost U.S. Taxpayers $27-plus Million

New cover-up: 'Project PBX'

 

04-28-00

COURT REFUSES REQUEST BY CLINTON-GORE WHITE HOUSE TO DELAY E-MAIL SEARCH

QUESTIONS CLINTON-CLINTON-GORE-RENO CREDIBILITY, MOTIVES

BANS CLINTON LACKY LEE RADEK FROM INVESTIGATION
 
 

04-06-00

CRIMINAL CONTEMPT MOTION FILED BY JW AGAINST CLINTON-GORE WH

CLINTON-CLINTON-GORE-RENO CABAL SUBMITS FALSE AFFIDAVIT, FALSE TESTIMONY, IN FILEGATE LAWSUIT

ROUTINE, RECKLESS CLINTON-CLINTON-GORE-RENO SCHEME HARMS LEGAL SYSTEM, ENDANGERS THE PEOPLE, DESTROYS DEMOCRACY

 
 

03-31-00

COMPUTER EXPERTS: "WH-OBSTRUCTED E-MAIL CAN BE RETRIEVED IN WEEKS"

CLINTON-CLINTON-GORE-RENO CABAL TAMPERS WITH ZIP DISK, FLOUTS LAMBERTH'S ORDER

WH COUNSEL NOLAN A DELIBERATELY UNINFORMED CONDUIT FOR FORMER WH COUNSEL CHARLES "Say you can't recall and they can't get you for perjury" RUFF'S WILLFUL IGNORANCE &/OR LIES

 

 

03-30-00
E-MAIL-GATE MEETS CHINAGATE

ONGOING CLINTON-CLINTON-GORE-RENO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE MANDATES CRIMINAL REFERRAL BY LAMBERTH, INDICTMENT BY RAY

 

 03-29-00

White House has Zip Disk with Lewinsky-to-Currie e-mail

Robert Haas testimony perjurious

 
COULD DOCUMENT CLINTON PERJURY, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, WITNESS INTIMIDATION

MANDATE CONVICTION BY SENATE, INDICTMENT BY RAY

 

 

 03-25-00
 
JUDGE LAMBERTH HINTS AT CLINTON-CLINTON-GORE-RENO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

CALLS PRIOR DOJ INVESTIGATIONS "BOGUS"

 

 

03-24-00
 

MORE CLINTON-CLINTON-GORE-RENO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

DOJ OPENS INVESTIGATION IN ORDER TO SHUT THE DOOR

 

The clinton zipper vitiated by obvious spilth. . .

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Don't lose
Your head
To gain a minute
You need your head
Your brains are in it.
--an old roadside ad, Pushme-Pullyou
 
 
 
 
 
 
DON'T ELECT CLINTON!
DON'T ELECT GORE!
INDICT THEM BOTH!
INDICT THEM ALL!
RICO!


1 Posted on 08/16/2000 05:01:37 PDT by Mia T
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To: Mia T

Just a few weeks later, the Justice Department lawyer -- James J. Gilligan -- signed a court pleading arguing to dismiss Judicial Watch witness' charges of threats as "unfounded."

Rumor has it he's being blackmailed. Something about scandalous photos of him and some old fat guy referred to only as: "The Skipper".

2 Posted on 08/16/2000 05:17:41 PDT by uglybiker
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To: Mia T

I did not know another witness to the filthy threats White House goons made to those who knew about the missing emails was IGNORED once it was discovered she had direct information regarding the threats-information against the WHITE HOUSE. Boy these WH thugs suck.

And to learn from your fabulous missing E-mail synopsis that Kendall (bill and hill's attorney) has been PRESENT at the Judcial Watch missing EMAIL hearings being held in front of Judge Lamberth is simply loaded with implications-this case must be a real threat to the White House. GOOD. Kendall, IMHO, is one very filthy man who slums in the same Williams and Connally law firm in DC that houses human garbage like Elian crushing Gregg Craig (wonder if that creep ever thinks about Elian these days-or is he a typical liberal who simply exists on a out of sight out of mind kinda thing?).

3 Posted on 08/16/2000 05:29:11 PDT by Republic
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To: Republic

Gee, Skipper I guess I'll have to roll over one more time!

DrMike

4 Posted on 08/16/2000 06:21:27 PDT by STD
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To: STD

Hubbell was the main roll over guy. Not sure who will be doing the rolling on the email case--it is begining to look as if the facts are going to get in the way of all of the LIES! Finally.

5 Posted on 08/16/2000 06:24:10 PDT by Republic
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To: Republic

The "victims' list was placed on Linda Tripp's chair, too. SOP (standard operating procedure) for the Clintonistas?

6 Posted on 08/16/2000 09:24:19 PDT by nsmart
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To: uglybiker

Now THAT is what a rumor should be. LOL....

7 Posted on 08/16/2000 09:53:22 PDT by eureka!
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To: Mia T

amazing but perhaps a little bit of overkill

8 Posted on 08/16/2000 10:00:04 PDT by stocksthatgoup
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To: nsmart

I had heard, I believe it was from an interview (or tape with Lucianne) from Linda, that Monica was the one to leave the "LIST" on Linda's chair.

I'd bet Monica was following bill's direction. ..(hill's too??)

9 Posted on 08/16/2000 11:08:42 PDT by Pray4USA
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To: Pray4USA

I don't think Linda ever knew who left the list on her chair. I think you are remembering incorrectly. It could be that Monica did it. It has definitely been done before and it must make a chilling impression. The FLIR expert.. one wonders if he found one his chair prior to his death and then ignored it as nonsense.

10 Posted on 08/16/2000 11:54:25 PDT by nsmart
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To: nsmart

"...ignored it as nonsense."

Much to his dismay.....

As the press also does that, but with a different motive, it will be much to our dismay......(and I hope theirs, too).

11 Posted on 08/16/2000 13:14:46 PDT by Pray4USA
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To: nsmart

I remember reading the same thing as Pray4USA, that Monica left the list on Tripp's chair...
I always wondered why she wasn't grilled about that,
as I thought that it would be grounds for prosecution.

12 Posted on 08/16/2000 16:35:51 PDT by freefly
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To: Mia T

Another great post from Mia T!
And yet another threat from the criminals in office...
I wonder what spin they will come up with THIS time!

13 Posted on 08/16/2000 16:37:59 PDT by freefly
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To: freefly

I wonder what spin they will come up with THIS time!

Dontchaknow... they don't even have to spin because the media has decided not to report on any more administration wrong doing... "nothing to see here" "more along".

For whatever reason (and some of them are scary), the media don't report any of Klayman's findings.

14 Posted on 08/16/2000 18:06:53 PDT by nsmart
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To: Mia T

Gee just what Linda Tripp got. Do they use Alamo-Girl's version?

15 Posted on 08/16/2000 18:10:46 PDT by bmwcyle
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To: nsmart-I find the leaving of a list of DEAD PEOPLE related to the clinton administration to be ...

one of the worst events I can think of in the dirty filthy actions now so commonly associated with bruce lindsey and the clinton administration. From Bruce being accused of threatening to break Miss Arkansas' (one of big bill's past flames) pretty legs to James Carville threatening to break Ken Starr's knee caps, to the leaving of a tragic and SCARY list of DEAD make that most likely MURDERED PEOPLE on the personal chairs of perceived clintonian enemies-people who have damaging INFORMATION- simply continues to INFURIATE the HELL out of me......HOW DO OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS STAND THAT THIS GOES ON WITHOUT BEING DEALT WITH IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR RULE OF LAW?? It is their job to uphold our rule of law, ya know. Pitiful.

16 Posted on 08/16/2000 19:51:28 PDT by Republic
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To: Republic

Take a deep breath... only kidding. I know what you mean.

How did Daschle and Lott get 100 senators to vote for NO WITNESSES? What could they possibly used to threaten these men to get this UNPRECEDENTED unanimous vote? It musta been a chilling scenario that was presented -- don't ya know?

17 Posted on 08/16/2000 20:31:25 PDT by nsmart
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To: nsmart

I remember part of the reason many voted to keep witnesses out of the senate chambers was because they felt the nature of the case would forever soil the senate chambers. What soiled the chambers in the end was the inability of EVERYSINGLE DEM SENATOR to vote to throw that grunting, rutting hog out of our White House. Along with his gross and extremely haughty, cruel wife.

18 Posted on 08/17/2000 08:29:33 PDT by Republic
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To: Mia T

Mia---you are so creative!

Hey----the body-count list left on the chair. This piece was in Ether Zone 8/14/00. Has it appeared to your knowledge in "mainstream" media in the days since this courthouse step statement?

I ask because I have a liberal friend who refuses to believe what is on net-news sites like Newsmax, WND, etc.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if the toady media picked up on the accusation---treating it like wacky VRWC stuff, but giving it air to help Clinton make the point to ALL who my think they're going to cross him after he no longer has the DOJ to hide behind. THANKS

gg

19 Posted on 08/17/2000 10:32:34 PDT by gg188
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To: Republic, bmwcyle, freefly all

08-17-00

Criminality Of Clinton-Gore WH And DOJ Becomes More Apparent With Each Passing Day
 
Heissner Implicates Top Officials, Including White House Counsel Charles Ruff, In Coverup Of E-Mail Scandal

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

August 16, 2000
Contact: Richard Tomkins
(202) 646-5172
 
E-MAIL HEARINGS CONTINUE
 
Criminality Of Clinton-Gore White House And Justice Department
Becomes More Apparent With Each Passing Day
 
Heissner Implicates Top Officials, Including White House Counsel
Charles Ruff, In Coverup Of E-Mail Scandal
 
(Washington, D.C.) Yesterday, on behalf of thePlaintiffs in the
$90-million Filegate class-action lawsuit, Judicial Watch
continued to take testimony, in court, over the expanding
e-mail scandal. This coverup of crucial evidence not only
in Filegate, but Chinagate, Travelgate, and the Lewinsky
scandals helps explain why the Clinton-Gore Administration
has thus far escaped from being held accountable for their
illegal acts. While cosmetic political conventions have been
taking place in Philadelphia and Los Angeles with politicians
spewing forth their usual rhetoric and banalities, which few,
if any, Americans actually believe will ever translate into real
action Judicial Watch has been tearing the veneer off of the
e-mail coverup in acourtroom in Washington, D.C.
 
For instance, yesterday, Karl Heissner, a top computer specialist
in the Clinton-Gore White House implicated former White House
Counsel Charles Ruff for his failure to alert the Court, Congress,
and the Independent Counsel of the missing e-mail.
Heissner added that other top Clinton-Gore officials have also
failed to affirmatively come forward to government authorities.
At one point in his testimony, Heissner cemented how Clinton-Gore
White House congressional testimony was altered to omit any
mention of the missing e-mail.
 
The day before, Robert Haas, who had been threatened to
keep his mouth shut, and who had also worked on the e-mail
issue as a computer specialist in the Clinton-Gore White House,
revealed for the first time that The Principals, Bill and Hillary Clinton
and Al and Tipper Gore have, since the inception of the
Administration, kept secret e-mail accounts under phony names.
These secret accounts were hidden from courts, Congress and the
Independent Counsel.
 
Judicial Watch will be asking for a full accounting of these
newest bombshells in the Clinton-Gore White House's obstruction
of justice, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General
Counsel LarryKlayman.
 
The hearings continue today with testimony from Chip Sparks
and Ada Posey, two other Clinton-Gore White House
computer specialists.
 
A press conference will be held on the Courthouse steps
following each day's hearing.
  

20 Posted on 08/17/2000 13:03:40 PDT by Mia T
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To: gg188

The clinton m.o., indeed. Great point.

21 Posted on 08/17/2000 13:05:25 PDT by Mia T
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To: Mia T

The clinton administration is one huge rat infested venomous psycho pit of degradation and corruption. I no longer respect ANYONE who works for that filthy rutting hog and his equally replusive wife.

22 Posted on 08/17/2000 14:40:47 PDT by Republic
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To: Republic

...the nature of the case would forever soil the senate chambers. What soiled the chambers in the end was the inability of EVERYSINGLE DEM SENATOR to vote to throw that grunting, rutting hog out of our White House.

But if there had been witnesses, like Juanita or Kathleen or even Linda Tripp being questioned about the intimidation that made her get evidence that she was being coerced. That vote, although I had not focused on it at the time, was unprecedented. Think about some of the Republican Senators like from Alaska and their hard nosed approach to government. How in the heck did Lott get them to vote against witnesses? It must have been something we will never know, at least not for decades if then.

23 Posted on 08/18/2000 09:50:55 PDT by nsmart
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To: nsmart

Lott probably did nothing. I don't think any republican senators were approached about how they would vote. But the House Mangers and their attn, David Schippers were told by Lott that the senate minority leader (Daschel) and a few other psycho democraps told him directly that EVERY SINGLE DEM SENATOR would not vote to oust that rutting boar. To throw a president out-you have to have a 2/3 vote-a simple majority like the republicans have will not suffice. That meant that THIRTEEN DEMOCRATS would have to vote to oust the pig--Lott told Schippers that the DEMS informed him that even if clinton raped someone on the WH LAWN then shot um point blank-the DEMCRATS WOULD VOTE TO KEEP HIM IN OFFICE. Pretty damn horrifying-no? And of course-we could depend on the media and the mainstream press to keep any witness information from the american public. You see-bill and hillary clinton ran the senate like they have run everything else-thru corruption and blackmail. Those men and women in the dem senate were probably told that their CAREERS were OVER if they WENT AGAINST BIG BILL AND HIS VERY SICK WIFE. Bet on it. That is why Moynihan and Byrd (our greatest hope to lead out honorable votes in the senate) CAVED. I guess neither could STAND to see a lifetime of work destroyed by the clinton machine. Sometimes I wonder if hillary blackmailed Moynihan for his seat. I truly believe he HATES HER. I do.

24 Posted on 08/18/2000 10:22:49 PDT by Republic
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To: Republic

There definitely appears to be no Love Loss between the two.

25 Posted on 08/18/2000 10:27:12 PDT by nsmart
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To: nsmart

Bump

26 Posted on 09/15/2000 19:34:51 PDT by RickyJ
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