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Designated Speaker of the House Bob Livingston was prepared to scuttle the December 1998 impeachment vote against President Clinton, but a rape charge by Arkansas businesswoman Juanita Broaddrick changed his mind at the last minute, a new book reveals.
Appearing Sunday on "Meet the Press" with Tim Russert, Washington Post reporter Peter Baker described how his new book "The Breach" documents the doubts that plagued leading House Republicans before the passage of two articles of impeachment against Clinton, and how the then-secret rape charge carried the day:
RUSSERT: You write extensively about the role of Newt Gingrich, Tom Delay, Bob Livingston and Henry Hyde and suggest that there were moments during the entire inquiry where they were stepping back saying, "Do we want to go forward with this impeachment? Should we try censure?" What did you find in your reporting?
BAKER: Well, I think that's exactly right with Bob Livingston and Henry Hyde in particular. Henry Hyde was the forceful crusader out front. But behind the scenes he was very uncomfortable. He knew he didn't have the votes to win a conviction in the Senate. And he wanted to find a way to bring people together. He had secret negotiations with the White House that were arranged through Lloyd Cutler, former White House Counsel, and he couldn't find a middle ground.
Bob Livingston considered censure. He thought that might be an appropriate response. And, in fact, on the day, the very day that the House debate (on impeachment) opened in December 1998, he had a moment in the House cloakroom where he suddenly said, "This is craziness. We've got to stop this. Let's have a censure vote."
And an aide came to him and said, "Bob, you can't do that." He had just heard about the Juanita Broaddrick case, the allegation of sexual assault. He said, "Boss, we have a rapist in the White House. We can't do this."
And Livingston decided that the aide was right, that Clinton had committed crimes. He did deserve impeachment. But he struggled with it like a lot of the people did behind the scenes and they didn't let on in public.
The NBC host declined to explore Bakers' Broaddrick case revelation further, though it was his news division that obtained an exclusive interview with the Clinton rape accuser three weeks before the president was acquitted on impeachment charges in the Senate.
Despite the impact Broaddrick's allegation would have had on Senators who voted to acquit without viewing evidence that supported her claim, the network refused to broadcast its Broaddrick exclusive till two weeks after the Senate vote.
Baker also detailed how First Lady Hillary Clinton personally nixed one compromise propsal that might have helped her husband escape the humiliating impeachment indictment.
RUSSERT: Dick Gephardt, the Democratic Leader, according to your book tried to craft a censure resolution against the president which included the loss of his pension. And someone else in the White House spoke up.
BAKER: Well, that's exactly right. Gephardt was trying to find a way out. And he was also trying to reconcile his own sense of anger at the president, as most Democrats felt. And he came up with a plan to take Clinton's pension away for five years. And also to try to reform what he thought were the misuses of executive privilege, the White House counsel's staff, Secret Service confidentiality and so forth.
And what ended up happening was it wasn't the Republicans who killed this plan. It was the Democrats. Hillary Clinton did not want to be paying out money as a result of this. That would have cost $750,000 for the president over five years.
And the other people who killed it were the House Democrats, because the idea of taking a politician's pension away for bad behavior seemed like a bad precedent.
History will record a lot more than what we already know. Those who supported impeachment will do far better than those who did not.
When the truth does all come out, even those of us who think we can't be shocked further.. will find that once again we were wrong.
Jen
Heads up.
The weakness of the republicrat leadership is why I will vote for Buchanan.These people sold out this country.Sickening simply sickening.
Aw, comon, let's just say it. Rape is really great and well accepted by people who are cultured, so long as the raper can show some affiliation to the Democrats.
Being a Democrat means you never have to say you're sorry.
My prediction: Tyranny and death camps within 30 years, right here in America.
If the rape forced the impeachment issue, WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING IT UP AS A CHARGE, YOU STUPID, INCOMPETENT REPUBLICANS?
I love this one:
>> the other people who killed it were the House Democrats, because the idea of taking a politician's pension away for bad behavior seemed like a bad precedent.
Translation: "Keeyikes! With our record, we'll all end up broke and in jail!"
"The other people who killed it were the House Democrats, because the idea of taking a politician's pension away for bad behavior seemed like a bad precedent."
Sounds like good idea to me! Mater of fact why do we have citizen legislators getting an pension anyway?
The real reason the house leadership was resisting impeachment was that the White House had their FBI files and all the dirt on them. As kristinn is so found over reminding the White House visitors on Saturdays. Nor dirt came out about the US Seanators once the deal for no trail was struck. Was William Proxmire the only bad boy in the Seante? We don't hear about the Dodd-Kennedy sandwhich much any more.
Gephardt was ... also trying to reconcile his own sense of anger at the president, as most Democrats felt. And he came up with a plan to take Clinton's pension away for five years.
Why was Gephardt angry over clinton's private personal mistake? How many starving children will be fed by this kind of attitude? Not very European of him-- this Gepdardt fellow sounds like a far out extremist.
"Boss, we have a rapist in the White House."
I forget who said this - some republican pundit - but the general rule is that rape is allright so long as the rapist is in favor of partial-birth abortion.
"to take Clinton's pension away for five years.... "
What a baldfaced lie.
This would be a Bill of Attainder, SPECIFICALLY OUTLAWED BY THE CONSTITUTION !!!
Hillary had nothing to do with it's death.
Clinton used CRIMINAL MEANS to defeat the unanimous Supreme Court ruling in Jones v Clinton. No President had ever previously done so damaging an act to our form of government.
I watched "Meet the Press" this morning and I don't recall Russert even mentioning the rape allegation with this author. Now I read that the premise of the book was that it was one of the driving forces behind impeachment.
I can't believe what an enabler Russert is.
Little Miss "I was a Misled Victim" was the brains behind the fight to keep her ticket to politics in the White House! It was she who called the shots and orchestrated the attacks on anyone who got in their way! It was she who dreamt up this "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" to shift blame onto others, which, by the way, she was right about all along: Click Here
"Boss, we have a rapist in the White House."
Newmax is getting slow. I could swear I had this post last week. Didn't I?
The real reason the house leadership was resisting impeachment was that the White House had their FBI files and all the dirt on them.
RIGHT ON. Gotta add this reminder of this still unresolved matter
"Five agencies have refused to endorse the accuracy of Clinton's published DNA profile. This further suggests that the President's DNA may have been altered for privacy and security reasons. With the Star magazine DNA tests taken from OIC documents and the fact that there may have been an altercation, the paternity test could prove to be worthless.
Until the truth behind Clinton's DNA is known, we will never be sure that Danny Williams is or isn't Clinton's love child. The public has a right to know and we will be waiting."
A SECOND LOOK AT CLINTON'S ACCUSER:
BOBBIE ANN WILLIAMS
By: Bob Momenteller
Published in the March 1, 1999 issue of Ether Zone Online! Copyright © 1999 Ether Zone Online (http://etherzone.com). Reposting permitted with this message intact.
"Boss, we have a rapist in the White House."
And thanks to the conspiracy of denial of EVERY Democrat in the Senate, the rapist is STILL in OUR house!
The Juanita Broaddrick Rape Interview ON REAL PLAYER
ABC dedicated three-fourths of Wednesday’s 20/20 to Diane Sawyer’s interview with Al and Tipper Gore. She did at least ask him about the December 19 event: "At the celebration after he has been impeached you were there saying:"
Gore, December 19: "What happened as a result does a great disservice to a man I believe will be
regarded in the history books as one of our greatest Presidents."He avoided the issue and talked about how most Americans didn’t want Clinton impeached.
Gore said on the White House lawn at about 4:30pm ET on Saturday, December 19, 1998.
Here’s the relevant portion of Gore’s words:
What happened as a result does a great disservice to a man I believe will be regarded in the history books as one of our greatest Presidents. There is no doubt in my mind that the verdict of history will undo the unworthy judgment rendered a short while ago in the United States Capitol. But we do not have to wait for history. Instead, let us live up to the ideals of this season...."
"I feel extremely privileged to have been able to serve with him as his partner for the past six years and I look forward to serving with him for the next two years.
I know him.
I know his wonderful First Lady. I know his heart and his will and I have seen his work. Today, because of his leadership, we are on the verge of the longest period of peacetime prosperity in all of American history.I say to you today: President William Jefferson Clinton will continue and will complete his mission on behalf of the American people.
I’m proud to present to you my friend, America’s great President, Bill Clinton."MEDIA RESEARCH CENTER
Maybe DRUDGE will bring this up tonite on his radio show. After all this is the guy (Baker) who first broke the Monica story for the Washington Post.
Reply to post #1: This then makes the democrats and the republicans that sided with them, accessories to any rape, that Herr Klitler commits in the future, and he will, commit rapes in the future. The only rapists who are not serial rapists, are those who are caught, after their first rape. Remember what Herr Klitler told monica, when she asked him why he didn't just pay off Paula Jones, and be done with the whole thing. Klitler told her he couldn't, because there were more, and he would have to pay them too. Monica then asked him, well how many are there, and Klitler said there were hundreds. Herr Klitler is a serial rapist.
Happened once about fifty years ago.
Will happen within ten if gore elected 15 if the shrub is elected.
And what ended up happening was it wasn't the Republicans who killed this plan. It was the Democrats. Hillary Clinton did not want to be paying out money as a result of this. That would have cost $750,000 for the president over five years.
There it is for all to see! It was MONEY alone that motivated Clintonette! She didn't give a hoot about the country, the rule of law, or her husband's sexual activities!
Will the NY Press follow up in this? Don't hold your breath.
RIGHT ON. Gotta add this reminder of this still unresolved matter
Yeah, right. Danny Williams - the bogus scandal that helped to save Clinton from conviction in the impeachment trial.
The matter is resolved. The kid is not Clinton's.
It was NBC itself that suppressed the Broaddrick interview until AFTER the Senate impeachment trial vote. Click on the cartoon panel to see more of this comix story about how NBC suppressed this interview.

Reply to post #5: If gore wins, you will have to move up your timetable.
"There it is for all to see! "
No, this "deal" is SPECIFICALLY OUTLAWED by the Constitution.
Agreeing to it would be an admission of guilt, with the assurance that the reduced penalty COULD NOT be applied: resulting in his facing Impeachment after already admitting his guilt.
Since Billy is so stupid, and Hillary so involved in his defense, it's possible that Hillary was one of
the lawyers who pointed this out to him.
You mean the weakness of the Republicans is the reason you will vote for GORE. Any vote for any candidate other than Bush is a vote for Gore. Sure, you will lessen Gore's take--but the Democrats will not do anything but vote a straight donkey ticket and your vote for Buchanan makes you their new best friend.
Agreeing to it would be an admission of guilt, with the assurance that the reduced penalty COULD NOT be applied: resulting in his facing Impeachment after already admitting his guilt.
I thought it was an agreement about censuring instead of impeaching.
But, of course, I'm not a legal expert like you & Hillary.
The rape couldn't be brought up because there was nothing other than hearsay, no DNA like Monica had. Furthermore, Jaunita lied about it under oath when she had the chance to set the record straight in the beginning of the Star investigation.
Did you also vote for Perot in '92 and '96 for similar reasons? If so, thanks a lot. China is now armed and dangerous.
The Year is 1960.
JFK wins the election because he receives
Just 1 more VOTE per precinct in Illinois (8,858 votes)
Just 3 more VOTES per precinct in Missouri (9,880 votes)
Just 3 more VOTES per precinct in New Jersey (22,091 votes)
Without those 40,829 votes, the election goes to Nixon.
YOUR VOTE DOES MATTER.
PLEASE consider this: A VOTE for anyone but GW BUSH is a VOTE for GORE!
These people sold out this country.Sickening
How you can lay this one on Republicans defies all logic,
The Democrats sold us out, and your vote for Buchanan will help Gore win.
Bill and Hillary are very much Leninists, however refined by the wisdom of fascism where government power controls 'private' factors of production without the direct responsibilty for capital, labor, management, and lands' efficient management. Consider federal spending growth, minimum wage rates, endless alphabet agencies' regulations, and environmental and zoning takings. Political leaders act like rulers dismissing our Bill of Rights as anachronistic artifacts.
Unrestrained by a just loss of political power, their lust may prove to be more like the current Chinese Communitst Party leadership model. I don't know where AlGore's personality disorders will take him, but from observing Clinton's demonizations of opponents and killing through his wag the dog M.O., our nation is soon due for one of God's lesons.
"a legal expert "
LOL. I'm no legal expert.
The censure-option was debated throughly here by some legal experts, however. Any punishment (like loss of pension or a fine) would have been a Bill of Attainder, which the Constitution is very clear about.
You said it so well:
Aw, comon, let's just say it. Rape is really great and well accepted by people who are cultured, so long as the raper can show some affiliation to the Democrats.
Being a Democrat means you never have to say you're sorry.
Gephardt was ... also trying to reconcile his own sense of anger at the president, as most Democrats felt. And he came up with a plan to take Clinton's pension away for five years.
Isn't it odd that no reporters (even though they're all democrats) were able to ferret out the stories about the "anger" democrats felt at the time of Impeachment?
I think there's a story there..... not one that will ever be printed, but a story nonetheless.
The House Democrats knew about the Broaddrick rape.
The Democrats in the senate knew about the Broaddrick rape.
Hillary! knew about the Broaddrick rape.
And AlGore tells Katherine Prudhomme he wasn't aware of it?
"I forget who said this - some republican pundit - but the general rule is that rape is allright so long as the rapist is in favor of partial-birth abortion."
Seems true, sad but true.
First Schippers, now this. If you ever doubted that the Devil was the busiest lobbyist on Capitol Hill, this sorry tale should set you straight.
Hats off to "Meet the Press" with Tim Russert.
Hats off to "Meet the Press" with Tim Russert.
Hats off to "Meet the Press" with Tim Russert.
Good article. This proves it! You can be a rapist, sexual pervert, liar, and even traitor, and still accend to the highest office in the land. BUT, you NEED to have good men do nothing. Very important, GOOD MEN MUST DO NOTHING! A lesson in history and civics. When good men do nothing.........! My comment.....PITIFUL!
Since we already have sensitivity camps, and the tyranny done to Wen Ho Lee, you are wrong my friend. IT IS HERE AND MOST OF THE SHEEPLE DON'T KNOW AND IF THEY DID THEY WOULDN'T CARE
Sorry, but I believe Clinton over a drug addicted whore. She just might be the only one lower than Clinton.
Sorry, but I believe Clinton over a drug addicted whore. She just might be the only one lower than Clinton.
I'm with you on this. I hated Schipper's book Sell Out because he tried to lay equal blame on the republicans during impeachment.
No one mentions who clinton is courting now. Does anyone know?
AND THE MEDIA KNEW ABOUT THE RAPE ACCUSATIONS FOR YEARS
<< The rape couldn't be brought up because there was nothing other than hearsay, no DNA like Monica had. Furthermore, Jaunita lied about it under oath when she had the chance to set the record straight in the beginning of the Star investigation. >>
I don't believe this is correct. First, there was a lot more than "just" hearsay evidence. For example, they had eyewitness testimony from a women who saw Juanita's condition immediately after the rape. And Clinton admits to having sex with the women on the day in question. Furthermore, Juanita lied under oath in an afidavit that was submitted at the suggestion of a lawyer with connections to Clinton in order to keep her from having to be DEPOSED in the Jones matter. This is something she dreaded, and with good reason given the fact that she was dealing with the Dixie mafia. When she was approached by Starr she recanted that affidavit after being given a promise of immunity. She's telling the truth. You just don't want to face that.
Can't you get a DNA sample from hair? Who is his barber? . . .find the hairbrush. . .
That does seem bit easy. . .
You have a very important point there and it may well be the truth, but it opens the door for voters to say,"see, they are all guilty of evading the truth"
Let's face the facts: Rape by Democrats is not as serious as rape by Republicans and always will be defended or ignored by the left-wing media.
Re: Lazamataz--Aw, comon, let's just say it. Rape is really great and well accepted by people who are cultured, so long as the raper can show some affiliation to the Democrats. Being a Democrat means you never have to say you're sorry. My prediction: Tyranny and death camps within 30 years, right here in America.
Unfortunately a very similar charge was made against Reagan by a woman who said Reagan raped her while he was a playboy after the divorce from Jane Wyman. Selena Walters confided about the rape with friends but didn't pursue it. Ms. Walters' story was told in a book in 1991, well before Clinton was in office. I think you will find from research that many famous men from all over the political spectrum have been accused of being rapists. It still seems strange that if the proof of Clinton being a rapist, which was supposedly in that secret evidence room, was so much of a slam-dunk that it has not been exposed by now. If the evidence nailed down such a charge, it would be worth tens of millions of dollars to the news source that documented it.
--IMHO, Raoul
I gotta pull this out every once in a while:
PICK A REASON -- ANY REASON
(This is a partial list)
If I may be blunt......the voters (sheeple) are idiots
Sorry, but I believe Clinton over a drug addicted whore. She just might be the only one lower than Clinton.
Power is an addiction as far as Hillary goes and by all acounts she is a political whore.
So, what's your point??
This is great for the republicans running for office in this election - it may spur those undicided democrats, as well as independents to give their votes to republicans. Wow, the cards are starting to fall. Remember, there is a scripture which says, "everything hidden will be revealed". God is always right!
The arrogance of you Bush-at-all-costs supporters never ceases to amuse me. According to your statement, if I cast a principled vote for a bona-fide third-party conservative or libertarian candidate that constitutes "a vote for Gore."
Sorry, buddy, but a vote for Bush is a vote for an incremental socialist who will implement many of the same policies Gore would, but at a much slower pace. A vote for Bush is, indeed, a vote for statism and a rejection of the principles of limited government. It is a vote for a less damaging version of Gore.
Now that your candidate is plunging in the polls, you want blame everyone but the candidate himself. Bush is incapable of articulating a conservative message that will motivate grassroots conservatives and provide a clear distinction between himself and Al Gore. That is why he is plummeting in the polls.
...I DID NOT HAVE SEX...
The problem with allowing history to play out is truth will be the first casuality, as scum always rises to the top the truth gangrapers will be on the scene to continue their filthy revisionist habits.
I believe Juanita but telling a lie and having the statement notarized as true didn't help her case. What do you mean Clinton admitted having sex on the same day? Furthermore, I am disappointed that as a nurse she didn't seek rape documentation. The final point is for all women, if you want to point a finger, when it happens or 20 years later, who have got to have solid evidence. It was next to pointless, (in fact, a distraction from the events of the day), that she came out so late in the game. Timing is everything and she didn't have it. By the way, I am betting there will be more Juanitas to come but, like her, their stories will be trashed. Too little, too late. Be it rape, quid pro quo vetoes, nuclear secrets to Gawd knows who, it will all be meaningless. America has been Clintonized, desensitized to normal values by constant exposure to over-the-top immorality. What difference will a few more victims lying in the road make? Juanita could have made a difference if she had a ripped stained dress and a few pictures from an ER on the date in question. Heck, she could have made a difference before 1992 and we might have been spared this mess completely!
Guess you've enjoyed the past eight years of higher taxes, lower standards (in everything from education to common civility), and the mind-numbing sales pitch of the press tooting our Democratic "peace and prosperity". You can slam Bush all you want, and make online judgements about people who you have never met in real life. One thing is sure--Buchanan won't even be elected dogcatcher!
Sorry, but I believe Clinton over a drug addicted whore. She just might be the only one lower than Clinton.
Should the situation ever arise; would you help Clinton, the whore, both or neither?
Rapist...Schmapist.....he CARES about kids! Come on...get off his back...he cares about kids. (don't ask what he;s done for them, just repeat after me) HE CARES ABOUT KIDS!!!! (thank you).
The WH would hope to contain both sides of an invented polemic over the rape stories with this Washington Post REVISIONISM -- just in the same manner as the WH tries to be on both sides of legal proceedings. All this is presented as if the WH did not have any interaction with NBC and Russert at all over Broaddrick at the time and controlled the story then. Phooey. How about the real story, Russert?
America has been Clintonized, desensitized to normal values by constant exposure to over-the-top immorality
If the country was really desensitized, Gore would have chosen Larry Flynt as his VP rather than Lieberman. Gore's doing his best to run away from the scum.... It's his only chance.
America has been Clintonized, desensitized to normal values by constant exposure to over-the-top immorality
If the country was really desensitized, Gore would have chosen Larry Flynt as his VP rather than Lieberman. Gore's doing his best to run away from the scum.... It's his only chance.
I have taken much criticism regarding the Danny Williams story.. the truth was that a prostitute said her child is Bill Clinton's son.. and I believe that he is.. not because I dislike Clinton but because it is plausible.. due to the DNA evidence.
You are so right. I remember when liberals said that Reagan was sitting up concentration camps. Where did they go? Liberals/democrats always accuse REPUBLICANS of what they ,democrats, would actually do. The world is headed for a thousand years of unspeakable horror. democrats are slave masters. Line up and vote democratic all of you slaves.
<< The arrogance of you Bush-at-all-costs supporters never ceases to amuse me. According to your statement, if I cast a principled vote for a bona-fide third-party conservative or libertarian candidate that constitutes "a vote for Gore." >>
I'm sorry but at this point in time, voting for ANYONE besides Bush IS "a vote for Gore". At LEAST the Republicans are still SALVAGEABLE. At LEAST the majority of them still believe in the CONSTITUTION and the RULE OF LAW.
The same CANNOT be said for the Democrats and if the Democrats, through the actions of people like you, manage to remain in power another 8 years, then even the Republican may be fully corrupted. And if that happens, with liberals controlling the media and the Department of Justice, any efforts to stem the tide of socialism are doomed.
With a Republican in the Whitehouse, and Republicans in control of both houses of Congress, then we might FINALLY be able to turn the tide of creeping socialism.
I find this very interesting that there are 2 books, maybe more, that have come out recently about Clinton's Impeachment