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Peter Ward went to the Elohim City compound in Oklahoma many times before the OKC bombing to visit Andreas Strassmeier, the military training officer at the compound. Peter has a criminal record and is known to and protected by the FBI. In 1998 the FBI bailed Ward out of jail in Medford, Oregon where he was being held on car theft charges.
A sketch of a man who fits the description of Ward appears on page 262 of Jeanne Boylan’s book, “Portraits of Guilt” and on page 457 of David Hoffman’s book, “The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror.” Boylan is the FBI sketch artist who did the Unibomber sketches and some of the John Doe sketches for the OKC bombing. Boylan says her sketch resembles the one witness Jeff Davis helped her make after the bombing.
Jeff Davis delivered Chinese food to McVeigh’s room 25 at the Dreamland motel in Kansas on April 15,1995 and has insisted he did not see McVeigh but instead only saw the John Doe Boylan sketched. McVeigh is believed to have been in OKC at the time.
David Hoffman labels the sketch in his book “Peter Ward” and the sketch very, very closely resembles the sketch Boylan did with Jeff Davis. In fact, even though it is not the same sketch in Boylan’s book, the Hoffman sketch looks like it may have been done by Boylan and looks like the Jeff Davis John Doe. Boylan labels her sketch John Doe IV and attributes it to Jeff Davis. Hoffman does not give the source for his sketch and labels it “Peter Ward”.
Even if the man in the sketches published in the Hoffman and Boylan books is not Peter Ward, it is important to realize that Peter Ward is a very likely candidate for a John Doe in the OKC bombing and has very strong FBI ties and protection.
Several witnesses at Elohim City have said that Ward worked closely with Strassmeir at the Elohim City compound. Strassmeier was a German national that defense attorney Stephen Jones said was recruited by Louis Freeh to do deep undercover and intelligence operations for the FBI in the US. Jones made the allegation on KTOK radio in OKC in 1998 and said the US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson had discussed the Strassmeir and FBI alliance with the German government with Jones.
McVeigh called Rev Millar’s daughter at Elohim City shortly before the bombing to talk with Strassmeier. In the Carol Howe trial, it was revealed that Rev. Milar was an FBI operative and informant. BATF records released at the time of Howe’s trial fully disclose that Elohim City was an FBI operation and that meetings were held by FBI SAC Bob Ricks with the Oklahoma high way patrol and members of the BATF to discuss the FBI operations at Elohim City.
It is believed McVeigh knew not only Stassmeier but also Peter Ward, the FBI operative that worked with Strassmeier at Elohim City. McVeigh may have had contact with and may have worked with Ward not only at Elohim City but elsewhere such as room 25 of the Dreamland motel in Kansas.
This may explain why Jeff Davis insisted to ABC and NBC national news in April 1996 that the FBI had repeatedly tried to coerce Davis into saying that Davis saw McVeigh and not the John Doe in room 25 of the Dreamland motel when Davis delivered the Chinese food. The FBI would not want it known that the FBI operative, Peter Ward, was in McVeigh’s room 25 at the Dreamland motel or that Ward worked with Strassmeier and possibly McVeigh at Elohim City.
In another related development, it has been learned that the John Doe III on page 232 of Boylan’s book may also have been an FBI agent or operative. Investigator Brian Quigg of Phoenix, Arizona has stated he has a taped interview with Joe Davidson of Cassville Missouri about the Boylan sketch of John Doe III. According to Quigg, Davidson claims that the FBI agent investigating the John Doe III first told him that the description of the John Doe’s appearance and demeanor fit precisely that of another FBI agent known to the FBI agent.
John Doe III came to the real estate office of William Maloney and Joe Davidson in the Fall of 1994 with McVeigh and Nichols according to Boylan and Time magazine. The John Doe was clearly in charge, could read topographic maps very well, had a military bearing and wore special military boots with small suctions cups on his soles according to Maloney. Maloney also said that the John Doe was driving McVeigh and Nichols in a green Marquee with Oklahoma plates. He said that the group was inquiring about property that had a cave on it and was immediately adjacent to a Davidian compound nearby.
On pages 231 and 232 of her book, Boylan asserts that the description of John Doe III fits the description of at least two or three other witnesses who she interviewed and who said the John Doe III was with McVeigh at the Murrah Building on April 19,1995.
It is believed that FBI agent Weldon Kennedy, at one time Freeh’s Deputy, shutdown the FBI investigation of John Doe III . This conclusion is based on conversations Kevin Flynn had with Kennedy concerning the investigation of the John Doe reported to the FBI by Davison and Maloney. Kennedy rebuffed Flynn’s information that the name of John Doe III, Robert Jacques, had been written down six times in a notebook by Nichol’s wife.
If John Doe III, who was sketched by Boylan, was in fact an FBI agent or operative as stated by the FBI agent, then Weldon Kennedy may have shut down the investigation to prevent the public from learning that the John Doe III was an FBI operative or agent.
Incidently, Senator James Graessley, formally accused Kennedy of lying to Graessley and Congress and of covering up the FBI crime lab falsification of evidence as revealed by an FBI agent, Fredrick Whitehurst, who had worked at the lab. Kennedy resigned shortly thereafter and went to work at a security position in St. Louis.
Kennedy has been an armored car specialist in FBI operations in Phoenix, Arizona according to Brian Quigg. And, a Robert Jacks, an armored car driver, was an eyewitness to the OKC bombing while he was sitting in his armored car near the Murrah building. The FBI interviewed Jacks and the Jacks story was published by Anne Buzby of the Associated Press in 1995. Buzby had interviewed Jacks’ roommate, Edna Mendoza, for the story. Kennedy was put in charge of the OKC bombing investigation in OKC in May 1995 before later being made Freeh’s deputy in DC.
Please refer to my previous artcle, “Others Known” to the FBI in The OKC Bombing, posted on freerepublic.com on September 20, 2000. Note that in that article I also refer to a Middle Eastern John Doe, Ali Mohammed, who worked directly for Bin Laden and the CIA and the FBI as an informant from 1992 to 1998. This John Doe helped set up terrorist cells in the US and may have helped McVeigh and other Middle Eastern men seen with McVeigh in front of the Murrah Building on April 19, 1995.
Ali was indicted for helping in the World Trade Center and Kenyan bombings and had US intelligence manuals and documents (on how to build and hide explosives in buildings) on his possession when arrested. It is strongly believed he wrote Bin Laden’s terrorist training manuals with US manuals. Copies of the Bin Laden terrorist manuals on CD-ROM were recently obtained by US intelligence.
I wrote an article on Mohammed’s writing the manuals for Bin Laden as an FBI informant. The article is posted on freerepublic. My sources for the article are December 1998 articles in the New York Times. The OKC bomb(s) may have been built and deployed with Mohammed’s help and training.
Would you recommend Hoffman's book?
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David Hoffman now says that the sketch of Peter Ward came from Glenn Wilburn who told him it was Peter Ward. If this is true, I do not know where Glenn got the sketch and why he thought it was Peter Ward. However, I am working on this to find out. Unfortunately, Glenn passed away of pancreatic cancer.
My info on Peter Ward being an FBI operative at Elohim City comes from an impeccable and highly reliable source unrelated to Hoffman. I have other sources who will be able to tell me very soon if the sketch really is of Peter Ward.
I do not rely on Hoffman's book or info at all. I really double check every thing he says and writes.
Hoffman may be right about where the sketch came from and who it is, may have remembered it wrong or put out uncertain information. He is a mixed bag.
I know a lot about his personal life and an arrest he has had in Oklahoma unrelated to the OKC case which cause me concern about him.
He sent me and Jayna Davis, KFORTV reporterette, "Synagogue of Satan Letters, with Satanic letter heads and in Satanic symbol covered envelopes-really sick. He said he did this because he did not feel he was getting all the info from me an Davis he wanted. This was not a prank or joke, it was really, really sick.
Hoffman worked closely with OK state Rep Charles Key. One of Key's secretaries told me she quit partly because of Hoffman's Satanic letters he had sent others besides me. Key's secretary nor I could get Key to restrain Hoffman. In fact Key called me up and complained it was my fault because Hoffman did not think I was giving him enough info. I wonder about Key because of this incident.
He sent viles of blood to a woman he stalked in OKC because she refused his advances and there was an arrest and protective order issued because of it. I believe Hoffman has said he is a satanist-is he?, I do not know.
Yet a lot of the info in his book is right. I know, because a lot of it came from me (early on before he staring sending me Satanic letters) and others I know who gave him the info. And I also believe a lot of the info in his book is not correct. Is it not correct because he was sloppy or had another agenda? I do not know. However, he told me once that he was a left wing socialist and he elaborated at great length about his beliefs about socialism. Is he a communist?, I do not know.
In my opinion, Hoffman has a bad habit of tainting good evidence because of his personal behavior and beliefs.
Good write-up. Gives many of us good reason to keep our antennae tuned for key names to pop up elsewhere.
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I have a question. During the 96 hours or so following the explosion, the media (every outlet) was keeping a running count of bodies recovered and those still considered missing. The total they were looking for, as I recall, was about 208. All of a sudden, it seemed to me, the number dropped from 208 to 170 or so. Did you follow this and/or do you have an explanation?
Two things stick out about this article...
"...BATF records released at the time of Howe?s trial fully disclose that Elohim City was an FBI operation and that meetings were held by FBI SAC Bob Ricks with the Oklahoma high way patrol and members of the BATF to discuss the FBI operations at Elohim City.
Is this the same Bob Ricks of Waco press conference fame?"
The John Doe was clearly in charge, could read topographic maps very well, had a military bearing and wore special military boots with small suctions cups on his soles according to Maloney.
Suction cups on his shoes???
It is the same Bob Ricks of Waco fame. Ricks was seen by witnesses including Mrs. Jane Coverdale who spoke with Ricks in front of the Murrah building at around 9:15 am on 4/19/1995 too early for Ricks to have gotten there from a golf tournament he said he was at in Shawnee, Oklahoma (25 minutes away even by heliocopter!) Coverdale lost two grandchildren in the day care center of the Murrah Building.
Many of the FBI agents who mishandled WACO in addition to Ricks were also directly involved in the OKC bombing coverup and were from the OKC FBI field office.
One FBI agent named Gray was in the FBI communications center at WACO listening to all the FBI bugs in the compound. Gray was a negotiator who supposedly retired after Waco. But strangely enough, he was on the scene at the bomb site by 9;30 am on 4/19/1995 with his FBI jacket on to do negotiations with McVeigh? Smacks of foreknowledge doesn't it!
My source of this story is OKC police officer Don Browning who was K9 unit that found living and dead in the rubble. Browning knows FBI agent Gray and testified against Gray at the Oklahoma County Grand Jury investigating the bombing.
The Grand Jury never called Gray to respond to the allegations. The FBI has immunity in these cases we were told and does not have to testify before state or county grand juries!! Remember McVeigh said during his 60 minutes interview that he held the FBI more responsible for Waco than the BATF. MCVeigh also wrote a letter to the Oklahoma Gazette with even stronger allegations against the FBI. The FBI had agents in the Murrah building every day at 9am and dropped off kids at the day care center. But the FBI was tipped and did not show up inside the Murrah building on the morning of 4/19/1995. They were outside instead!
On page 227 of Jeanne Boylan's book, Portraits of Guilt, is an account of William Maloney's description of the pattern on the bottom of John Doe III's (Robert Jacques) boots. Maloney repeated the same story to me on the phone and said the pattern was composed of miniature suction cups. That is what he said to me!
Maloney was extremely good with small details. He pointed out to the FBI the dental work (dark tooth) on one of McVeigh's front teeth which the FBI had missed. Pictures of this are shown on page 235 of Boylan's book.
There were precisely 200 body bags ordered from the military by the FBI on the day of the bombing. The source of this was Herb Johnson, Senator Inhofe's Chief of Staff, referred to in my earlier articles "America Burns, While Senator Inhofe Fiddles "and "Others Known to the FBI in th e OKC Bombing".
Herb Johnson had been told this by his contact at the FBI command center and passed it on to news director, Jerry Bohnen of KTOK radio in OKC. Bohen knew the exact number even before the military did! I told Inhofe about this in January 1999. Johnson also gave details to KFORTV reporter Jayna Davis.
Recall, Johnson is the one who signed a letter stating that his FBI contact had told him about the DOJ coverup of Middle Eastern men involved in the OKC bombing. I discussed this with Inhofe as well in January 1999 and so far Inhofe has done nothing adequate and is covering up for the FEDS by his silence and inaction.
Thanks for the correction on Chuck (Charles) Graessley.
Whitehurst was in fact an FBI agent. I know because I spoke with his attorneys (Colapinto in DC was one of them). Janet Reno's office called me up in November 1997 and threatened me over having talked to Whitehurst attorneys. The attorney in Reno's office was Robert Mullado who was on the task force invstigating(covering up) the FBI crime lab.
Also, Whitehurst talked about his oath he took when he became an FBI agent on national TV with Sam Donaldson I believe. I saw and heard the interview on Prime Time Live. Whitehurst said that his oath as an FBI agent was to uphold and protect the US constitution and not to protect the FBI-that is a very close paraphrase of what he said.
Thanks for the correction on Chuck (Charles) Graessley.
Whitehurst was in fact an FBI agent. I know because I spoke with his attorneys (Colapinto in DC was one of them). Janet Reno's office called me up in November 1997 and threatened me over having talked to Whitehurst attorneys. The attorney in Reno's office was Robert Mullado who was on the task force invstigating(covering up) the FBI crime lab.
Also, Whitehurst talked about his oath he took when he became an FBI agent on national TV with Sam Donaldson I believe. I saw and heard the interview on Prime Time Live. Whitehurst said that his oath as an FBI agent was to uphold and protect the US constitution and not to protect the FBI-that is a very close paraphrase of what he said.
Anybody know the answer to the question in #6 on this thread?
There were precisely 200 body bags ordered from the military by the FBI on the day of the bombing.
Do you recall the strange and sudden drop in the number they were looking for? I never heard anything like "X number of people feared missing have been found alive at other locations," or anything like that. The number just dropped with no explanation.
One clue to your question is that normally there should have been around 600 people in the Murrah building on the day of the bombing, but inside it has been reported that there were around 400 instead. The original estimates for killed and for body bags had to be quickly lowered when the high absenteeism was discovered the day of the bombing.
Many in the BATF were out of their offices that day. Witness have said BATF agents told them they had been tipped they did not have to come into work that morning!
Senator Inhofe spoke publicly about this several days after the bombing and he observed that there had been unusually high absenteeism on the morning of the bombing and he wondered why.
The Democrats even used a clip of Inhofe's appearance and statement against him when he ran for the Senate in 1996. They accused Inhofe of picking on poor government workers and complained that Inhofe was really calling the Fed workers "goldbrickers". They were obviously trying to turn the large Federal and state govt worker population against Inhofe in the election. Inhofe has never said anything of significance about the bombing publicly ever since this happened.
Bump. Could Peter Ward be a relative of Seth Ward, and therefore by marriage a relative of Webb Hubbell? Wouldn't that be a twist?
Are you familiar with Ambrose-Evans Pritchard's work on the OKC bombing? If so, what do you think of it?
His work is very good but not complete. I know others who worked closely with him that are still working with me to this day. It is not his fault it is not complete. It is a vast story and he did not have the time to stay on the story for as many years as it will take to come closer to a complete story.
I have worked every day, seven days a week on the story for 5 years 5months and 4 days and I still am developing new significant leads and info. I am getting much closer now than I was even a year ago. There are others who are still working on it as well.
I promised the FBI when they threatened me and my wife in our home that I would make sure at least a thousand more people would keep on the story until the truth is as fully known as humanly possible. I also promised them I would beat them with the truth with both my hands tied behind my back without cheating, lying, breaking laws, falsifying evidence or threatening people like the FBI does.
I promised God and many victims and witnesses I would see this through until God was ready for me to finish.
When you are on the side of the TRUTH, you are on God's side. I asked the FBI agent if he feared God. No response from him! The beginning of true knowledge and wisdom is fear of the Lord. I love God but I fear and respect, revere and honor and delight in his WORD.
I hope the FBI's paranoid psychobabble experts read this and are confounded if they reject and scoff at God's WORD. They do not accept that it is Jesus Christ who has preserved me physically and mentally through all of this.
I Love the LORD and give him all glory and credit for everything I do.
God uses the humble and the weak to confound the mighty.
The FBI is drunk on the success of their own arrogance and contempt for the law and for not treating people with common decency. They will fall into their own traps.
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Bump. Thanks for the article
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Where does Michael Brescia [sp?] fit?
Did the John Doe that Jeff Davis saw at the motel have long shoulder length hair? did Boylan sketch have this feature?
Boylan's sketch did not have shoulder lenght hair. The hair was much shorter, but not a crew cut either.
Brescia does not look like the Maloney or Jeff Davis sketches nor does he fit the description of Debbie Nakanashi.
He was involved in bank robberies with a group of people who may have been connected to McVeigh but I am not sure. I do not have a fit for Brecia. Wilburn and Cash thought Brecia may have been a John Doe but I do not have info on why or which John Doe they thought he was. I am sorry. I do not think he is John Doe I, John Doe II, John Doe III or John Doe IV using the numbering scheme in Boylan's book.
I am not ruling him out as a John Doe but I have a lot more on the other John Does I have written about. Can you tell me how Brecia really fits in? I have seen his picture to compare him to the other John Does. Hoffman's book has a picture of Brecia and I also have an article which has a full page picture of him.
Don't know the answer.
Another name for you: Trentadue.
One very important fact I forgot to put in the article. It is very telling and I feel bad I had forgotten to put it in.
The FBI took many fingerprint samples right after the bombing in room 25 of the Dreamland where John Doe III stayed with McVeigh. When confronted about this by KAthy Wilburn the FBI told her that the FBI did not have enough money in their budget to afford to have the prints processed.
Ths senior case agent Jon Hersley promised KAthy that he would get them processed or find out if they really were processed. This is spelled out in a Daily Oklahoman article. Hersley never kept his promise.
I believe the man in room 25 was connected to the FBI (could be Peter Ward)and the FBI deliberately did not want his fingerprints to be processed to conceal his identity. There were about 1000 prints taken in this case that were never processed. The largest manhunt with more FBI agents used than ever before in US history was staged and just for show.
did you see #25?
Any mention of Michael Brescia?
Miniature sucktion cups? Yep. I had a pair of boots that had little, 1/3", cups. They weren't for sticking to anything, but added cushioning.
see reply #23
Any mention of Michael Brescia?
This question is answered in post 23.
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same to ya!
I thought that this set of composite and comparison photos would be of some interest:
Very Helpful. Thanks for the pictures.
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Strassmeir was at Elohim working for the FBI before CLinton came into office and Freeh became the director of the FBI. Elohim City was 100% an FBI operation and Milar, Peter Ward, and Andy Strassmeir all worked for the FBI at Elohim City.
The reports of Carol Howe's handlers for the BATF described the BATF having to consult with FBI SAC BOb Ricks about Carol Howes's undercover work at Elohim city for the BATF. These reports are posted on the New American web site. At Carol Howe's trial it was proven that the FBI tried to hang out Howe to dry to get her killed and convicted to coverup the FBI operation at Elohim CIty. FBI agent Pete Rickle was criticised in the court proceedings for deliberately exposing their informant Carol Howe to being murdered.
Freeh travelled to Germany in 1993 according to the LA Times and while there arranged for having Strassmeir to continue to work for the FBI in the US. Strassmeir was brought to the US by the BUSH senior administration and kept on the job by Freeh under Clinton. This is one reason why Democratic and REPUBLICAN COngressmne and Senators like Istook, Hatch, Inhofe have helped cover up the OKC bombing.
Freeh travelled to Germany in 1993 according to the LA Times and while there arranged for having Strassmeir to continue to work for the FBI in the US.
LAT reported just the travel, or did they report the Strassmeir connection as well? I haven't heard this one before.
The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror by David Hoffman
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The LA TImes reported the travel. Steven Jones reported the travel in November 1998 in an interview with KTOK radio in OKC and Jones also reported that he confirmed that Freeh talked to the German government while in Germany about Strassmeir. Jones said the confirmation came to him from the US prosecutor, Beth Wikinson, who would not give him any more information. Soldier of Fortune Magazine is to have another artilcle out on Strassmeir around April 20, 2001.
Thanks for the heads up, OKCSubmariner.
Best regards. S&W R.I.P.
Thanks, archy, for the convincing composites.
I hope this story doesn't end on May 16...McVeigh's execution date.
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Bump to the top in the face of the withheld evidence.
And another bump to find later!
And a BUMP!
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If John Doe III, who was sketched by Boylan, was in fact an FBI agent or operative as stated by the FBI agent, then Weldon Kennedy may have shut down the investigation to prevent the public from learning that the John Doe III was an FBI operative or agent.
Incidently, Senator James Graessley, formally accused Kennedy of lying to Graessley and Congress and of covering up the FBI crime lab falsification of evidence as revealed by an FBI agent, Fredrick Whitehurst, who had worked at the lab. Kennedy resigned shortly thereafter and went to work at a security position in St. Louis.
Kennedy has been an armored car specialist in FBI operations in Phoenix, Arizona according to Brian Quigg.
And, a Robert Jacks, an armored car driver, was an eyewitness to the OKC bombing while he was sitting in his armored car near the Murrah building. The FBI interviewed Jacks and the Jacks story was published by Anne Buzby of the Associated Press in 1995. Buzby had interviewed Jacks’ roommate, Edna Mendoza, for the story. Kennedy was put in charge of the OKC bombing investigation in OKC in May 1995 before later being made Freeh’s deputy in DC.
From the article above. I haven't seen OKsubmariner around lately; he must have gotten the boot.
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And this is the REAL smoking gun of the OKC bombing--the fact that the FBI is trying, for its own reasons that have nothing to do with protecting anything except their own reputation, to conceal the fact that some of their priciest informants were successful in keeping this stuff away from them...and that if that fact became generally known, then a bunch of militia prosecutions would collapse.
I mean, imagine a lawyer saying to a jury, "My client stands accused of this heinous crime by a guy who covered for Timothy McVeigh and his associates prior to the Oklahoma City bombing. I will leave the decision about the witness' credibility to the good folk of this jury, but I must point out that small detail."
BTW, I'm rereading Harvest of Rage by Joel Dyer. Have you ever read it? Any thoughts on it?
If he'd gotten the boot, his profile would've been deleted. But he's still listed; maybe he's out chasing more leads.
There were precisely 200 body bags ordered from the military by the FBI on the day of the bombing.
McVeigh aimed to take the building down. Why didn't the FBI order 600 body bags?
Could it be "they" were running low on tinfoil?
Haven't you basically alluded to being an FBI informant on numerous postings?
'basically alluded' was the wrong phrase. Haven't you strongly implied that you were some kind of fed agent / informer/ agent-provacateur on previous posts? Well, one of the people using the screen name that you are now using certainly did :) .
Bump to find later.
I haven't seen OKsubmariner around lately; he must have gotten the boot.
His ID still is active in the FReeper Profile search, so he's still active.
"And this is the REAL smoking gun of the OKC bombing--the fact that the FBI is trying, for its own reasons that have nothing to do with protecting anything except their own reputation, to conceal the fact that some of their priciest informants were successful in keeping this stuff away from them."
Pathetic. Just pathetic.
Let's recap the FBI's evolving spin on this scandal.
1. We only just learned that there were withheld documents.
2. Okay, we really learned about them last December, but we have them all.
3. Okay, some of those documents may have been destroyed, but there is nothing in those records that would change the official conclusion that McVeigh is the sole perpetrator.
4. Well, yeah, okay, we DO have video tapes and photos of other people with McVeigh. We don't know who they are but we're sure they are foreign terrorists connected to Osama Bin Laden.
5. Okay, so it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that the FBI is conducting a cover-up to protect foreign terrorists for any good reason, so those people with McVeigh are, er, um, informants! Yeah, that's it, they're informants. But they weren't REALLY helping McVeigh. Oh no, they were just standing next to him because they were, um, ah, gathering evidence. Yeah, that's right. They were gatheing evidence. And, ah, the reason that they didn't stop the bombing, is, um., because they, ah, forgot to check in. Right. None of them remembered to call into the office and say, "We got a guy here with a bunch of fertilizer in a Ryder truck just like the one over at the secret base at Camp Gruber Boggs and we think he's going to blow up a building. What should we do?"
What makes government spooks easy to identify is that no matter how many times the government's story changes, no matter how many times they have been made fools of, whatever the current story is, that's what they claim to believe without question.
'The informants didn't tell us'. Criminy! Next it will be, 'Our dog ate the files'.
"Peter Ward went to the Elohim City compound in Oklahoma many times before the OKC bombing to visit Andreas Strassmeier, the military training officer at the compound. "
Don't forget that the founder and leader of Elohim is an admitted FBI informant as well, outed during the trial of Carol Howe.
"Haven't you basically alluded to being an FBI informant on numerous postings?"
He wouldn't be more obvious if he had a neon sign glued to his forehead saying, "I AM A GOVERNMENT SHILL AND I WILL RAT YOU OUT FOR FIFTY CENTS!"
Haven't you basically alluded to being an FBI informant on numerous postings?
No, I haven't. My guess is that the real FBI informant is Mike Rivero.
Mike, the fact that (a) you work in Hollywood and (b) that you specifically do special effects work makes ANY picture you post suspect. How long did you spend on Photoshopping that masterpiece, anyway?
Damn, Patrick---after all these months and posts--I do believe the boys and girls may be getting the picture?
I can't remember if it was a post on FR, or a private email, but I told you and the others to look at the pictures of John Doe #2, and Strassmeir, and Damn if it didnt happen today---LOL---my, my, it reminds me of the old adage, "Age and treachery, will overcome youth and excitement every time".
OKC, this is not directed toward you, but here is another story of the bombing---Dateline: OKlahoma City, Place, Beverly's at Penn and Northwest Highway---a waitress at this location thought the customer sitting at the table near the window, looked alot like the picture being shown on the TV, of one of the suspects of the Murrah bombing, so she called the OKC PD and gave her story to the dispatcher (the logs should be available?)--within five minutes, two plainclothing officers arrived, went straight to the suspect, spoke quietly to him, and then left with him, getting into a Ford Crown Victoria outside---they never spoke to anyone in the place, nor acknowledged their presense.
Interesting story, then two days later, Strassmeirer is escorted across the Mexican border by two DEA agents, to travel back home to his native Germany?
Stmoritz.
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If John Doe III, who was sketched by Boylan, was in fact an FBI agent or operative as stated by the FBI agent, then Weldon Kennedy may have shut down the investigation to prevent the public from learning that the John Doe III was an FBI operative or agent.
If true and/or believed by Bush/Ashcroft, this sounds like grounds for removal of Weldon Kennedy and his boss the Director of the FBI. Of course who believes that Louis Freeh was the lone gunman in this case. Follow the money/power/political influence. Who gained? Who lost?
You are doing a wonderful job,OKC. I wish you luck and strength. It is unbelievable the USA has come to acts such as this
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