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(CNSNews.com) - The head of the House Policy Committee
Friday launched a broadside at Vice President Al Gore for a "secret deal"
Gore allegedly made allowing Russia to sell restricted weapons to Iran
without facing US sanctions, and doing so in violation of a bill
co-authored by Gore eight years ago.
Rep. Christopher Cox (R-CA)
accused Gore of having "concluded a secret agreement in 1995 with
then-Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin to circumvent U.S. laws
requiring sanctions on any country that supplies advanced conventional
weapons to Iran," according to a statement.
Cox was responding to
an earlier report that Gore had allegedly agreed to not enforce a US law
requiring sanctions on countries that sell "advanced conventional
weapons," to Iran. The story first appeared Friday in the New York
Times.
"The secret Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement reportedly
allowed Russia to sell weapons to Iran for four more years, including an
advanced submarine, torpedoes, anti-ship mines, and hundreds of tanks and
armored personnel carriers," said Cox. "This submarine, as but one
example, is exactly the type identified by Congress, when it passed the
law, as posing a risk to US forces operating in the Middle
East."
Joining Cox in his condemnation was Sen. John McCain (R-AZ),
who co-sponsored the measure with Gore in 1992, before his election as
vice president. "The secret deal cut by Vice President Gore directly
contradicts the 1992 law he authored," said Cox. "Gore's unwillingness to
live up to his own words has abetted the arming of a terrorist
state."
Cox made his remarks in conjunction with the US-Russia
Business Council meeting in Washington, DC.
The only way this story gets some legs is if Bush hits Gore over the head with it during the debates and accuses him of weakening the U.S. in the Middle East and increasing the danger to U.S. military in future conflicts in the area. He could then point out that, once again, Gore is a liar and proves it on paper with his own words and actions.
Keepin' it bumped.
BUMP
Torricelli recently commented on this report, defending Gore of course. He said Gore didn't have to make this "deal" public, or report to the congress about it, that it was just some kind of 'hand-shake' agreement/deal between Gore and Chernomerden(sp). I'll try to find the post on this. I think I saw it yesterday.
just flipped by C-Span....they are showing Bush/Gore debate overagain...still in the first 45 minutes, because they are on foreign affairs and military.
I'd like to hear everyone's take on why he did it.
"I'll try to find the post on this. I think I saw it yesterday."
I'll look too. Please let me know if you find it. I just e-mailed this article to Bush so it might be important to follow it up with the Torrecelli comments.
"Move along there is nothing to see here.We have more important ISSUES like free prescription drugs for the elderly no matter how Rich they are."!!!
Wait a minute. Isn't that the same kind of reasoning that the Dems slammed with regard to Iran Contra?? I see that Torricelli is talking out his backside again. Someone should ask him why it was bad when Reagan did it and good when Gore did it.
...C-SPAN's -Washington Journal- was a thing to behold this morning as GORE was being blasted all over the place for his selling of a Russian Sub To Iran for Cash as callers asked what more would a President GORE sell away...? It was a BEAUT!!!!!
The only way this story gets some legs is if....
Actually, I routinely e-mail this type of story to a large group to make sure they see it. I have a feeling that they pass it on. I highly recommend this to everyone.
This story is getting legs. The NY Times has reported it. Cox and McCain have already blasted Gore on it.
Next comes a Congressional demand for a special prosecutor. Gore violated the law. He can't plead "ignorance" about this law, either.
Because he authored it...
I'd like to hear everyone's take on why he did it.
Money. Iraq had it. Russia wanted it.
Good comments!
Your take on this?
Since most people do not know about this, it would be wise for Bush to make mention of it in the debate...
Since the debate tuesday is a "town hall" type, perhaps someone in the audience could ask mr. algore why he allowed this region to become even more dangerous than it was, hmmmmmmmmmmm?
That would be nice...
Would you please look at this & see if it has been posted on FR.I searched in articles & archives but found nothing using key words, that doesn't mean however this article hasn't been posted....http://www.policy.house.gov/documents/perspectives/1999/russia.htm/ BTTT
...He can't plead "ignorance" about this law, either.
Because he authored it...
Perhaps he'll use the Dan White "twinkie" defense. (Instead of having had too much ice tea this time, he'll have had too many twinkies and too much coke which then dangerously spiked his blood sugar level, making him not responsible blah blah blah
Your take on this?
Hmmm, and the media blasted Reagan for selling arms to Iran.
Gawd, I hope that poneytailed guy doesn't show up!
"The secret Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement reportedly allowed Russia to sell weapons to Iran for four more years, including an advanced submarine, torpedoes, anti-ship mines, and hundreds of tanks and armored personnel carriers," said Cox. "This submarine, as but one example, is exactly the type identified by Congress, when it passed the law, as posing a risk to US forces operating in the Middle East."
What irony it would be if the USS Cole was actually torpedoed by an Iranian submarine that was allowed to be purchased with the grace of Al Gore.
"Since most people do not know about this, it would be wise for Bush to make mention of it in the debate..."
I certainly agree. I'm looking for that thread with Torrecelli's defense of Gore that YaYa123 mentioned, so that I can send it to Bush to study the excuses made.
In '93-'95, I ran into ground zero of the Clintons/Gore beltway bandits. They seemingly had a blood oath to protect the Yeltsin mafia as billion$ were diverted from the intended purposes which then vanished from Russia. I believe that AlGore Jr. repeatedly and with full knowldge was complicit in the former commies' criminal enrichment.
This M.O. was not unlike his own father's wealth created with Armand Hammer's hand. (See socialist Al Gore Sr.'s ability to live in a luxury Washington hotel rearing Jr. into a pathological mess he is today. Cattle breeding, extraordinary mining royalties, and Occidental Oil wealth were all funneled into the Gore family accounts are beyond their market worth, IMHO.
AlGore Jr. has corrupted and is corrupt. He is unfit for public office.
"The secret deal cut by Vice President Gore directly contradicts the 1992 law he authored,"
In most interpretations that could be described as 'breaking' the law. Of course, for a vice-president who subscribes to no controlling leagal authority, I suppose we ought not be surprised.
A larger question might be what is the payoff for Gore?
Wouldn't it be ironic if this controlling legal authority came to roost in the lawlessness of Albert, inventor of this controlling legal authority. The irony driving this (and giving it legs IMO) is compelling.
(NON-ISSUE...CLINTON/GORE HAVE THE ESCAPE HATCH HIGHLIGHTED BELOW...)
Iran-Iraq Arms Non-Proliferation Act of 1992, as amended16,
Pub. L. 102-484, Div. A., Title XVI, 106 Stat. 2571 (October 23, 1992), note to 50 U.S.C.A. §1701 (West Supp. 1996)
Section 1603 of this Act applies the same export and licensing prohibitions to Iran as are applied against Iraq pursuant to the Iraq Sanctions Act of 1990 (discussed above at section I.C.).
Section 1604 also prohibits "any" person from transferring goods or technology that contribute to the ability of Iran or Iraq to acquire advanced conventional weapons17, or chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons . Mandatory sanctions include denial of export licenses and a ban on entry into U.S. Government procurement contracts.
Sanctions also are required against foreign governments that transfer goods or technology which contribute to the ability of Iran or Iraq to acquire advanced conventional weapons. Mandatory sanctions include suspension of U.S. Government assistance, the requirement that U.S. representatives at international financial institutions vote against financial assistance, and the suspension of certain military transfers and sales. The President is also authorized to impose additional trade restrictions as permitted under IEEPA.
The President is authorized to waive the prohibitions contained in this Act in the national interest of the United States
(FROM WHAT I HAVE GATHERED FROM A NUMBER OF REPORTS...GORE WENT TO MOSCOW IN SEPT. OF 1997 AND THE RUSSIANS DENIED ANY INVOLVEMENT IN PROVIDING MISSILE TECHNOLOGY TO THE IRANIANS AND USED AN OCCURRENCE IN OCT. 1997 WHERE THE RUSSIAN FEDERAL SECURITY SERVICE "THWARTED" AN ATTEMPT BY IRAN TO CUSTOM ORDER PARTS AND JOINTS FOR A LIQUID FUEL MISSILE ENGINE.
AT THE SAME TIME, RUSSIA FULLY ADMITTED THAT THE IRANIAN MISSILE TECHNICIANS WERE BEING EDUCATED AT TWO RUSSIAN UNIVERSITIES. AS YOU MIGHT GUESS, ISRAEL PUT PRESSURE ON THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION TO PUT SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA. AT THE SAME TIME, THE HOUSE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE DREW UP
Iran Missile Proliferation Sanctions Act of 1997:
The bill requires the President to submit a report to Congress 30 days after the date of enactment, and periodically thereafter, identifying those entities where there is credible evidence they have transferred key missile components or technology to Iran. Thirty days after this report is required to be submitted, three sanctions (denying munitions licenses, dual use licenses and U.S. foreign assistance to these entities) would be imposed for a period of at least two years on these entities identified in the report
(PER A LETTER FROM MCCAIN TO MADELINE ALBRIGHT, COMPLAINING OF THE OVERLOOKING OF RUSSIA'S FAILURE TO COMPLY IN 10/97...THE CONGRESS WAS DEPENDING ON PRESS RELEASES TO DETERMINE IF RUSSIA AND IRAN WERE IN VIOLATION BECAUSE THE CLINTON/GORE ADMINISTRATION DID NOT MAKE INTELLIGENCE AVAILABLE.
EVENTUALLY, AFTER THE Iran Missile Proliferation Sanctions Act of 1997 MADE IT THROUGH BOTH HOUSES, CLINTON VETOED THE BILL. Clinton Administration officials have complained that this law unfairly targets Russia, and, if implemented, would not only interfere with U.S. attempts to secure Russian cooperation on many important non-proliferation goals but could also sour U.S.–Russia relations, jeopardizing reform efforts in Russia. The bill (HR 2709) passed both houses of Congress by wide margins, though, and Clinton officials indicated in June 1998 that a veto was likely, but with such broad support in Congress a veto probably would be overturned. In fact, in late June 1998, the Clinton Administration announced a veto of this legislation
"In '93-'95, I ran into ground zero of the Clintons/Gore beltway bandits. They seemingly had a blood oath to protect the Yeltsin mafia as billion$ were diverted from the intended purposes which then vanished from Russia."
I'd love to hear more about your encounters, but let me first add that I seriously doubt that the Russian decision to default on their foreign debt (was that '97??) was done in a vacuum (ie., sans Clinton/Gore), either...
Thanks Kimber.
BTTT
(NON-ISSUE...CLINTON/GORE HAVE THE ESCAPE HATCH HIGHLIGHTED BELOW...)
Yes, BUT...
(and thanks for skillfully digging out that line of text...I haven't heard media sources
either pro-Gore or anti-Gore mention that one.)
This shows what a bunch of hypocrites and weasels these DemocRATS are.
They raked Reagan over the coals, expended tons of money on an Independent Council who
cleared Reagan (personally)...then when they write legislation, they pencil in an escape hatch
which (as public opinion holds) should have been allowed to Reagan.
This story may have legs because, fortunately, many people in this country understand
that just because something is made legal by a line of legislative code or tortured legal parsing...
it doesn't necessarily mean that it is RIGHT or moral.
Item 12 of the Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement of 1995 states:
"This Aide Memoire, as well as the attached Annexes, will remain strictly confidential."
So my question is, just who are they keeping it secret from? The obvious answer is Congress and the American people.
What irony it would be if the USS Cole was actually torpedoed by an Iranian submarine
that was allowed to be purchased with the
grace of Al Gore.
At the risk of boring others...as I said on another thread,
If we never see in the press what the results of the testing for residue of the explosive was...
I'd be willing to bet $20, it was manufactured in Russia, one of the former USSR "repbulics",
or an old satellite country.
It this ever sees the light of day before Nov. 7, I'll be shocked.
But I'd really be most ready to put my money on this outcome "Tests on explosive residue
to determine origin or nation of maufacture are "inconclusive"."
Oh, I agree, but if there is one thing we have learned in the last years....you are not even going to hurt Gore, unless it is an iron clad slam dunk that is so despicable that the media cannot hide their disdain. Haven't seen one of thos yet...have you?
Absolutely, ...McCain's letter to Madeline Albright in Oct. 1997 was very telling...if I can find it again I will post it....
Essentially , he was implying that the only information that Congress was getting on whether their was compliance came from the media....Scary huh?
(FOUND IT)
October 23, 1997
The Honorable Madeleine Albright
TSecretary of State
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20520
Dear Madam Secretary:
As you know, repeated reports over the last two years of the transfer of missile and nuclear-related technologies from Russian companies and research institutes to Iran have been a source of growing concern among many members of Congress, as well as those concerned with issues of proliferation. Irrespective of whether the election of Mohammed Khatami as president of Iran may presage fundamental transformations in the conduct of that nation's domestic and foreign policies, I believe we are all in agreement that the attainment by the government in Teheran of advanced ballistic missile technologies poses a tremendous threat to stability in a region which is the most potentially explosive in the world.
Compliance with the 1987 Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), a voluntary nonproliferation agreement subsequently incorporated into U.S. public law, has proven troublesome with regard to Russia, China, Iran and others. In 1992, I sponsored, along with then Senator Al Gore, the Iran-Iraq Arms Non-Proliferation Act. Together, the MTCR and the 1992 Act establish a set of mandatory and discretionary sanctions against governments, companies and other entities involved in the transfer of weapons of mass destruction, ballistic missiles, and advanced conventional weapons to Iran and Iraq. Both provide for a national security waiver in the event the President determines such authority is necessary. Both were widely supported in Congress by both parties and, as stated, are now public law.
Both laws are also being completely ignored with regard to Russia's transfers to Iran.
I will not take up your time by detailing the threat to U.S. national security and that of our allies posed by Iranian missiles. You already possess ample information on that subject. I will, however, express my serious concern that the Administration is willing to ignore the aforementioned technology transfers, without communicating to Congress or the American people any reason, let alone a compelling one, for not complying with the law and applying sanctions.
I am sensitive to the difficulties involved in sanctioning a Russian government already suffering from severe economic stress. However, the scale of the potential dangers created by the transfers of missile and nuclear-related technologies to Iran should transcend concerns about Russia's economy. The threat to the U.S. and our allies is simply too great for the Administration to remain mute in the face of Russia's history in this sensitive area.
Leaving Congress to rely on press reports for fragmentary Administration policy statements is not equivalent to being in compliance with the law. I am sure I speak for many of my colleagues when I urge you to immediately comply with the law. If the Administration chooses not to impose either mandatory or discretionary sanctions under the MTCR or Iran-Iraq Arms Non-Proliferation Act, then you must immediately report to the Congress as to the reasons for not doing so.
This is an issue of enormous importance to United States national security, and the legislative branch of government will act to address the problem should it determine the executive branch has failed to act appropriately.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
John McCain
United States Senator
...you are not even going to hurt Gore, unless it is an iron clad slam dunk that is
so despicable that the media cannot hide their disdain. Haven't seen one of thos yet...have you?
I agree that we haven't seen the single, uranium-depleted round of a hit
on Gore...
at the same time, I think he is dying a political death of a thousand small cuts.
I think this is why, as some commentators have said...they've never seen a candidate
blow such a large post-convention bump in modern campaigns.
That's the outcome of the first two debates...Gore tell LOTS of fibs, Dubya doesn't have horns and
would be a guy you'd not mind having dinner with.
bttt
BTTT
informational bump!
Has Rush brought this up yet? It needs a national voice to get the ball rolling and do the media's work for them, the lazy buzzards!
I just emailed the article to Rush, others may want to do the same and request he discuss it.
Albert Benedict Arnold Gore
BUMP!
Handshake my foot......I have seen a copy of the agreement signed by Gore........who signed the agreement Al Gore. It was also signed by Chernomydrin. Toricelli is under a cloud and threat of indictment on fundraising illegalities so having him out there defending albore suits me just fine. One thief defending another!!!!
Albert Benedict Arnold Gore
BUMP!
looney tune,
I'm afraid that honesty forces me to comment.
On another thread I told a youngish poster that many Ameicans regard Jane Fonda as a "Benedict Arnold"
for her actions during the Vietnam conflict.
A very knowledgeable freeper reminded me that this comparison was unfair, as Benedict
Arnold had distinguished himself as a very able commander before going over to the British.
Likewise, Al Gore is no Benedict Arnold, as Al apparently never even learned how to
handle his M-16 (as evidenced by that famous B&W photo posted about a thousand times here).
Other than browsing through the titles, I don't know how to find a specific thread. Do you? Is there a way to put in a connecting keyword? I want to find that thread in which Torrecelli defends Gore on the secret arms sales.
Has Rush brought this up yet?
Rush is back on Monday I think. It's safe to say Rush will have a lot to say on algor arms to Iran.
Ditto Bush in the 3rd debate.
I haven't seen the Torricelli comments. But today on Meet the Press Sandy Berger basically said that none of the items than Russia sold to Iran fall under the technical definition of the McCain-Gore law.
VOA, I stand corrected. Al Gore is just a garden variety TRAITOR!
So else is Iran up to these days?
CIA Director Tenet, Albright, Pollard & Whistleblower Les Coleman
(talks about new U.S.-Iran deal)
First Visit to Baghdad by Iranian Foreign Minister in 10 Years
IMHO - The backdoor stuff with Iran has been going on for some time. The Russians have been on the take with American money. What seems irrational isn't. The missing piece is in the context.
Rush mentioned this on Wednesday or Thursday. He thought that the current Middle East mess would overwhelm this story for the moment, but that it should and will be a giant issue before November 7.
At least Reagan did it to save the life of an agent. Gore did to save the life of a tree (himself).
Bush should check the sources....if the accusation's fairly solid, he's got to bring this up and make it a topic of discussion.
Muchas gracias!!
He thought that the current Middle East mess would overwhelm this story for the moment, but that it should and will be a giant issue before November 7
That's so good to hear. Bash algor over the head w/ his arms sale to Iran, Rush!!
#13, wanna bet he doesn't remember the episode? I'll be a snickers bar he won't remember.
Al Gore is just a garden variety TRAITOR!
Thanks for the sound-bite! And here is a bump to it!
Imagine, graduating from Harvard and you can only rise to the level of a
passable Congressman, a weasely green Senator, serial failed Presidential Candidate,
Enabler of the First "Popularly Elected" (without a majority) President to be impeached, and
if the auspicious portents are correct...Rejected Presidential Candidate, as well as
potentially traitorous in looking the other way while Russians sell arms to an terrorist state
and all you can be remembered for is being a GARDEN-VARIETY TRAITOR!
One who will not even be seen worthy of investigation and prosecution once Dubya takes office
and is consumed with the business of rebuilding our military, as well as having the Army Corps of Engineers divert the Potomac to clean the stables of the Reno Justice Departent and the FBI of the accumulated alluvial layers of Bravo Sierra dumped there for the last eight years.
Yep, I'd say that if Gore (G-d willing) loses this election, he'll need a trip to
the low self-esteem clinic and a double dose of Tipper's psychoactive pharmaceuticals.
And somewhere in Hell, Armand Hammer will be griping and groaning about how Al's kid
was only half-the-criminal that his daddy was.
(Note well: I'm not ragging on Tipper or anyone needing the benefit of beneficial drugs for
mental problems...I just think maybe Al needs them already, but is in denial!)
I'm anxious to hear what Hugh Hewitt has to say tomorrow!!!
Bump!
g
Is this any worse then when Ronald Reagan was selling missiles to Iran?
Bump!
g
"The President is authorized to waive the prohibitions contained in this Act in the national interest of the United States"
"the threat to U.S. national security and that of our allies posed by Iranian missiles"
Follow the money, Louis.
HF
Has the agreement been released? I read the NYT but would love to see the actual language. I can't think of a single reason why an arms treaty would ever be kept secret. Seems rather self defeating to have an agreement no one knows about, doesn't it?
The reason most likely it was kept secret was because Russia was doing something that the current U.S. administration wanted done but could not accomplish legally.
Does this really surprise anyone? This man is mentally ill! Gore is nothing more than a disingenuous critin who has gone criminal.
"Is this any worse then when Ronald Reagan was selling missiles to Iran?"
Yes, it is worse. Reagan didn't author the law that forbade such sales, as Gore did. Reagan was fighting the Cold War, not trying to restart it like Gore. Gore attacked Reagan for those sales, but then had the nerve to do even worse himself. Further, Reagan was enabling man-sized weapon sales, not entire submarines or ballistic missiles.
bttt
bmp
bump
bump back attcha....Did Rush talk about this today??? If not, he was negligent....[I couldn't catch much of Rush today]
A disturbing thread. Bush won't get any traction from this at debate because sheeple don't know about it...and debate probably not the place to introduce such complex material. But I hope his team stands on it after the debate...
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