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USS COLE -- NEW ADDITION TO 'FRIENDS OF BILL' LIST

News/Current Events Opinion (Published) Keywords: USS COLE, FOB
Source: Rumor Mill News
Published: Friday, 20 October 2000, 2:21 a.m. Author: RMNews
Posted on 10/20/2000 12:49:50 PDT by Cvengr

One of the 17 sailors killed on the USS COLE had worked in the White House Communication Office. Several years ago RMNews ran an article about the WH Communication Office.

From Article inserted below:

"Clinton noted that the dead included Electronics Technician 1st Class Richard Costelow, of Morrisville, Pa., who had worked with him in the White House, helping to update its communications system."

The White House Communications Office was deeply infiltrated by Navy Intelligence. They filmed and/or recorded everything that went on in the White House. It is this office that makes all the official video documentaries that are made in the White House. It is their videos that we watched when we saw the White House coffees where Johnnie Chung and others were either giving or pledging money for favors.

What is not as well known about the White House Communications Office is that they covertly 'bugged' the Oval Office and kept records of ALL of Bill's female companions.

It is quite a coincidence that one of the sailors who died on the USS Cole had worked "with" Clinton, (by his own word). If he ws updating communication equipment, he probably was attached to the White House Communications Office.

His death does make me wonder if he saw something while doing his job that he wasn't supposed to see. If the 'terrorist bombing' was staged to get rid of this man, then I will bet there were Clinton accomplices on board the Cole. Otherwise the coincidence of his being one of 17 killed is too astromonical.

In other words, if Electronics Technician 1st Class Richard Costelow was the target, then someone had to make sure he was in the right place at the right time -- dead or alive. If anyone with any kind of power reads this, I would suggest taking extra care during his autopsy.

But then again, look what happened to the men and women who did the autopsy on Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown. They tried to tell us that he had been shot in the top of the head. How far did they get with their efforts? Not very! ###

RMNews: The following was sent by a reader -- who added the notes.

Reuters | AP | Elections | ABCNews

Wednesday October 18 12:41 PM ET

Clinton Warns USS Cole Attackers

By SONYA ROSS, Associated Press Writer

NORFOLK, Va. (AP) - Honoring the 17 sailors killed ``standing guard for peace'' aboard the USS Cole, President Clinton warned their attackers Wednesday: ``You will not find a safe harbor. We will find you and justice will prevail.''

Speaking at a ceremony attended by many of the nation's leaders and families of the dead and wounded, Clinton described the unidentified attackers as people who allowed their religion, political, racial, or ethnic views to warp their view of the world. ``For them, it is their way or no way,'' Clinton said.

But the president said such people ``can never heal or build harmony or bring people together.''

Some family members of the sailors who died cried as Clinton spoke.

Some sailors injured in the attack on the USS Cole were taken to the ceremony in their home port by ambulance and listened to the president while lying on mobile hospital beds.

Two sailors injured in the attack in Yemen on Thursday remain in Germany undergoing treatment.

``They all had their own stories and their own dreams,'' said Clinton, who met with victims' families before the public ceremony. He read each of the 17 sailors' names.

``In the names and faces of those we lost and mourn, the world sees our nation's greatest strength,'' Clinton said.

The ceremony was held at the Norfolk Naval Station's Pier 12. Nearby were two of the Cole's sister ships, the destroyers USS Ross and USS McFaul, and the aircraft carriers USS Enterprise and Eisenhower.

Clinton, speaking slowly with emotion, was joined at the ceremony by first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton and their daughter, Chelsea.

``Today we honor our finest young people, fallen soldiers who rose to freedom's challenge,'' Clinton said.

Speaking directly to parents, brothers and sisters and loved ones, Clinton said: ``We are all mindful of the limits of our poor words to lift your spirits or warm your hearts.''

The president said the crew of the Cole found common humanity and commitment to their country amid their diversity, and said that bond ``must surely confound the minds of the hate-filled terrorists who killed them.''

Clinton asked Americans to ponder the service of troops serving the United States around the world.

``The lives of the men and women we lost on the USS Cole meant so much to those who loved them. ``They have given us their best,'' Clinton said. ``Let us give them their meaning.''

Defense Secretary William Cohen called the attack an ``act of pure evil.''

``Death snatched them away in one violent, unsuspecting moment, while they were making sure America and its friends slept easily in a dangerous world,'' Cohen said.

The president said that over the past several days he had joined the rest of the nation in learning details about the fallen sailors - ``their profiles, their lives, their loves, their service.''

### ----READ THIS CAREFULLY: THIS MAY BE THE 'NEW NAME'. JUST WHAT DID ELECTRONICS TECH RICHARD COSTELOW SEE? YOU KNOW THAT HE WAS 'DISPENSABLE' SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WAS PRIVY TO CONDEMNING EVIDENCE. OR IS THAT JUST ANOTHER OF 'KLINTON'S MYSTERIOUS COINCIDENCES???!!!----

Clinton noted that the dead included Electronics Technician 1st Class Richard Costelow, of Morrisville, Pa., who had worked with him in the White House, helping to update its communications system.

--- NOTICE THAT KLINTON'S BODYGUARDS ARE MYSTERIOUSLY 'SNUFFED' INCLUDING MILLIONS OF $$$$ OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT, TOO. WHAT'S ANOTHER BILLION TO KING KLINTON? OR ANOTHER MILITARY LIFE???? WHO BETTER KNEW THAT THE HULL OF THE USS COLE HAD ONLY 1/2" OF STEEL? A 75 CAL. MACHINE GUN BULLET COULD HAVE PIERCED THAT!!!! ---

``All answered the same call to service and found themselves on the USS Cole headed for the Persian Gulf,'' Clinton said.

Army Gen. Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reminded the ceremony: ``Those who perpetrated this act of terror should also never forget that America's memory is long and our reach longer.''


I didn't quite follow any confirmation in the article of the alleged association with Clinton and the deceased, but if true it might nicely explain why the FBI is now de facto investigating arm rather than NIS/NCIS in these issues, not to mention CIA, NSA, DIA, and plain ol' counter-intel.

Anybody see any other confirmation of Electronics Technician 1st Class Richard Costelow having previously been assigned to work in the DC area?

1 Posted on 10/20/2000 12:49:50 PDT by Cvengr
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To: Alamo-Girl

Get your tin foil hat and take a look at this one ;-}

2 Posted on 10/20/2000 12:53:53 PDT by Vermonter
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To: Cvengr

bump

3 Posted on 10/20/2000 12:58:04 PDT by Red Jones
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To: Cvengr

It is quite a coincidence that one of the sailors who died on the USS Cole had worked "with" Clinton . . . .

No, it's a coincidence. Suicide-bombing Manchurian-candidates ramming a US Navy vessel in a foreign port in the off-chance (1 in 250?) that this sailor would die in the blast. Where was Howard Stern?

4 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:00:52 PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Cvengr

Anybody see any other confirmation of Electronics Technician 1st Class Richard Costelow having previously been assigned to work in the DC area?

ET1 Costelow was previously assigned to the White House Communications Agency (WHCA)

BTW...congratulations on your award.

5 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:02:18 PDT by sdkhaki
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To: Cvengr; Alamo Girl; ALOHA RONNIE; stand waite; kristinn

What was the name of the woman who worked in the WH Communications Office who was threatened and then murdered?

6 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:02:22 PDT by japaneseghost
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To: Vermonter

Tin foil hat, but also remember this close to election time, disinformation might be popping up to overwhelm the public if FOB allegations are true and begin to surface.

Some senior leaders are not eligible for office due to doubt of their credibility,..an issue which IMHO, has been laid by the side for too long.

7 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:02:50 PDT by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr

As a bonafide conservative Clinton-hater and a former sailor, I rather resent this type of conspiracy tripe being posted. It does nothing but "kook up" and detract the sterling service to their country of 17 fine Americans. These men and women were killed by cowardly terrorists and not by any White House plot. Keep your wild speculations among your cyber friends orbiting the planet Quexizron.

8 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:05:54 PDT by meandog
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To: Cvengr

Looky here

9 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:09:25 PDT by Dedbone
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To: Cvengr

A tourists' fart does not go un-noticed/recorded in WH. History may reveal V. Foster died in the WH and it has been known all along. Krinton 8 years, biggest crimminal/treason in our history!!!

10 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:26:15 PDT by Waco
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To: Cvengr

``All answered the same call to service and found themselves on the USS Cole headed for the Persian Gulf,'' Clinton said.

I think this death is strictly coincidence. But the above statement made by Clinton just further enrages me about the man. The statement is true enough, but the fact that this draft dodger has the gall to make the statement, I'm sure with full lip biting and maybe even a tear in his eye, is too much. He's still getting away with the "I feel your pain" formula.

11 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:27:11 PDT by mjohnq
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To: Dedbone

Worth noting...

But, if he was Naval Intelligence, he'd have long ago reported everything he had from the WH Communication Office to his superior--that assignment ended in 1997. He had been on the Cole for 2 years. Seems like one heck of a stretch to me...

12 Posted on 10/20/2000 13:52:48 PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: japaneseghost

In post #6, japaneseghost queried:

What was the name of the woman who worked in the WH Communications Office who was threatened and then murdered?

That was Sharlott Donovan. While all the details regarding her demise are a bit lengthy to post here, as are those of other deaths and misfortunes silencing others who had worked in the White House Communications Office, many details are covered in Alamo-Girl's growing *Clinton Downside Legacy BodyCount research project database,* including those regarding Sharlott Donovan.

-archy-/-

13 Posted on 10/20/2000 14:09:09 PDT by archy
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To: archy

thanks, and one of the kids killed in the Starbucks in GT also had worked in the WH Communications?

14 Posted on 10/20/2000 14:33:11 PDT by japaneseghost
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To: Cvengr

Even if this was a White House-connected operation, I doubt it was pulled off to kill this one guy. Has anyone checked how long it was before this guy was announced as dead? He could have died after (cf Ron Brown stewardess) or elsewhere, and just laundered through the 17 body count.

Good post, though.

15 Posted on 10/20/2000 15:38:50 PDT by Plummz
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To: Right Online. OwenKellogg, logos, Cvengr, Vermonter, RedJones,Dog Gone, sdkhaki, japaneseghost

Ya know... If he can 'off' all the key witnesses in time, he may have no need for that October surprise. Let's see...

So far, this past March we had Waco infrared expert Dr. Edward Allard have a stroke. He was lucky and lived. Then later in the month, his replacement, Dr. Siegel, collapsed, unconscious, and was diagnosed with massive blood poisoning. He was lucky also and walked out of the hospital ten days later.

Then the two incapacitated Waco investigators were replaced by a brave man named Carlos Ghigliotti. He wasn't as lucky as the first two and died from a heart attack in May.

Let's see... In June, we had...

  • the top staff member of the House Intelligence Committee, John Millis, (here, here, and here)
  • CIA Analyst John Muskopf, and
  • Tony Moser, an Arkansas Corruption Crusader

    How many more witnesses do you think before he can call off his October Surprise? Heck, if they're all dead or otherwise incapacitated, there'll be no one to testify against him for anything. He can retire fat and happy with a bevy of bimbos, and we can live in peace.

    So many witnesses; so little time.

    16 Posted on 10/20/2000 17:08:55 PDT by Nita Nuprez
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    To: Nita Nuprez

    As you know, I don't like coincidences.

    17 Posted on 10/20/2000 17:12:44 PDT by Senator Pardek
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    To: Senator Pardek

    Yeah, they can be a real... (what's a nice word for "pisser?")

    18 Posted on 10/20/2000 17:25:24 PDT by Nita Nuprez
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    To: Nita Nuprez

    One who releases liquid waste.

    19 Posted on 10/20/2000 17:29:01 PDT by Senator Pardek
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    To: Cvengr

    Well, that tears it, we will never see the missing White House e-mails!

    20 Posted on 10/20/2000 17:32:38 PDT by Not now, Not ever!
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    To: hotshot

    you there?

    21 Posted on 10/20/2000 19:13:55 PDT by thinden
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    To: Dedbone Alamo Girl

    Dedbone, from your reply at #9:

    Service records of those killed in USS Cole attack

    © 2000, The Virginian-Pilot

    Richard Costelow
    Date of birth: April 29, 1965
    Date enlisted in Navy: April 11, 1998
    Place of Enlistment: Philadelphia, PA
    Home of Record: Morrisville, PA
    Service dates/assignments:
    Recruit Training Command, San Diego - May 23, 1988-July 26, 1988
    SSC San Diego - July 26, 1988-Dec. 1, 1988
    SSC Great Lakes, Ill. - Dec. 10, 1988-Oct. 27, 1989
    NAS/NCTS Sigonella - Nov. 22, 1989-Dec. 10, 1991
    White House Communications Agency - Jan. 6, 1992- Nov. 1, 1997
    USS Cole (DDG-67) - Jan. 5, 1998

    22 Posted on 10/20/2000 19:49:31 PDT by Sal
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    To: Nita Nuprez

    Thank you for the flag. Ya know, for what it's worth, in my former line of work coincidences weren't allowed. Ya know why? 'Cause they almost never happened, that's why.

    23 Posted on 10/20/2000 19:53:21 PDT by logos
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    To: Vermonter

    Jeepers! Thanks for the heads up!!!

    24 Posted on 10/20/2000 20:48:02 PDT by Alamo-Girl
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    To: Sal

    ...White House Communications Agency - Jan. 6, 1992- Nov. 1, 1997

    This guy saw too much! Look at these dates! He was a "fly on the wall" who saw everything. Everything. SWAT!!!

    25 Posted on 10/20/2000 21:09:19 PDT by circumbendibus
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    To: Lion's Cub

    "But, if he was Naval Intelligence, he'd have long ago reported everything he had from the WH Communication Office to his superior--that assignment ended in 1997. He had been on the Cole for 2 years. Seems like one heck of a stretch to me..."

    The answer to the WHY NOW? question is easy. Now is when they now they are going to lose the election and they need to tie up all the loose ends.

    26 Posted on 10/21/2000 01:00:29 PDT by brianthomas
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    To: brianthomas

    Hey, guys, I think I have been thrown out of Lucianne.com for some of the comments I made about the Cole. Did any of you watch the Senate Armed Services Hearing on Thrusday?There was supposed to be a classified one on Friday, but it was cancled because the Administration needed time to prepare. Prepare what? You show up and tell the truth. But I guess if you dont even know what time it happened, you need time to get your story straight. Anyway, in researching all of this I found that Vernon Jordan, of Monica fame , represented one Mohammad Hussein Al-Amoudi, who headed the National Commercial Bank of Saudi, having taken over for Khalid bin Mahfouz.This Khalid and his son,Abdul Rahman used this bank to get millions of $$$ to bin Laden.Guess what the bin Mahfouzs also do? They own Yemen Holdings Limited,which along with PSA Mid-East Private Limited make up Yeminvest which is the big developer of the Port of Aden. Whats my point? Vernon Jordan,friend of Bill, represents two Sheihks who funnel $$$ to bin Laden, who are biggies in the Port of Aden development. Any body involved in any of this would know this. So, why does Congress and the media do nothing?Which brings me to you guys. What do you know about the bin Mafouz sheikhs?

    27 Posted on 10/21/2000 01:49:01 PDT by Betty Jo (bettyjoford@email.msn.com)
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    To: Betty Jo

    Cross reference this thread

    Gore and Clinton and Some of Their Associates Linked to Terrorist Groups?

    28 Posted on 10/21/2000 05:56:36 PDT by OwenKellogg
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    To: Cvengr

    Okay ... Now come down from your paranoia-induced high. How, in God's name, did those two terrorists know exactly where the unfortunate PO1 would be on the ship at the time of the explosion? Note that out of a crew of 300+, 17 were killed and 36 wounded. It is probably coincidental that the petty officer in question was among the dead.

    29 Posted on 10/21/2000 06:01:27 PDT by Junior
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    To: Junior

    But if you want to wear a really tight tinfoil hat, who knows if the blast is what killed Electronics Technician Costelow ? And that leads to wondering if people off-shore are the only ones the crew needs to worry about. And with that horrific thought, I've just scared myself silly. Thanks ever so much, Mr. President, for making it possible for me to actually wonder about this.

    30 Posted on 10/21/2000 06:10:52 PDT by mewzilla
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    To: Junior, meandog

    Folks, the article has already surfaced. This doesn't mean there are connections. It might very well be disinformation. I really do not understand how one would interpret the article to demean the sailors killed in the incident. If anything, it brings to light some extremely coincidental information.

    Generally speaking, in intelligence and military power arenas, the previous assignment to such a highly placed position is more synonomous with an incredibly large life insurance policy, i.e. the odds of one's early surmise are greatly reduced.

    The friends of Bill listing noted the converse phenomena wherein those who were labeled Bill's friends seemed to manifest a disproportionate numbers of fatalities, injuries, threats to life and limb, and suicide.

    I personally have believed that the cause of the USS Cole's attack was a random terrorist event, but considering the amount of contrived insulance to the reporting of the coincidence, which IMHO only goes to further respect and honor those killed, has given me cause to reconsider.

    Events, which before I didn't think about tend to become more significant. For example, why would the Yemeni government initially state the incident was NOT terrorist related? That's really quite a stretch for any justifiable explanation.

    The reason Boorda and Colby's deaths were so significant was that their offices along with several former Presidents are specifically listed in the book "Seven Days in May" as being key positions which if any one of those previous office holders were even threatened, let alone missing or dead, even by natural causes, extreme concern would arise throughout the intelligence community, all the way to low level officers, that a threat to the Constitution by domestic or foreign enemies of the state was underway.

    Now does this mean or necessitate such a state of affairs exists?

    Of course not. Nevertheless the indicators exist, where rarely if ever they have EVER existed before in the history of the US.

    IMHO, regardless of any substantiation, validity, truth, or consideration of the "Friends of Bill" list, future administration of the executive branch has now become susceptible to actual threats from possible enemies, simply because such "coincidences" are publically labelled as acceptable. Such coincidence has NEVER been acceptable to the intelligence or military leadership in the past US history.

    IMHO, this has bearing on the balance of power intrinsically established by the Constitution. Accordingly, when I have encountered indications that such events might be occuring or might even be interpretted as happening, I believe it appropriate to bring to a forum where others share concern for defending our government and Constitutional foundations.

    No, I don't buy the wide eyed appeals to fictitious planets nor to random coincidence. I also would not believe a report that a former WHCA ET1 was stationed on a destroyer on a random tour. But then again, perhaps as the article note indicated, maybe this is just ANOTHER one of those coincidences.

    If innocuous, then perhaps it merely reinforces the notion that our conflicts are not so much between men, but between powers, authorities and principalities. The death of any Christian should be joyous in that they are now with the Lord. Regretable, in that one other follower is not here to help communicate the Gospel to those who are without Him.

    Perhaps there's a bit of truth in different portions of what's grouped together as conspiracy or lunatic fringe. The best way I've found to discern that truth is not to ignore, but face each discernable issue squarely.

    Accordingly, IMHO, the coincidence is still not the cause or immediate cause for the 'terrorist' attack, but should nevertheless, be filed for future reference. IMHO, it may be a key coincidence in an incredibly volatile situation.

    31 Posted on 10/21/2000 07:12:58 PDT by Cvengr
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    To: japaneseghost

    In post #14, japaneseghost noted and asked:

    ***** *****

    thanks, and one of the kids killed in the Starbucks in GT also had worked in the WH Communications?

    Not quite, but close. The mother of Mary *Caity* Mahoney, the former White House Intern killed in the Starbucks triple-murder in Georgetown was at the time of her daughter's death an employee in the US Attorney's office in Baltimore. The uncle of one of the two male victims was reportede to be retired from a career in naval intelligence, in which he worked with classified communications messages at the Presidential level, including the formerly top-secret unit Task Force 157, which handled message traffic between Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon during the Paris Peace Talks during the Vietnam War period. That unit was set up and headed by Navy Intelligence officer and CIA employee Edwin P. Wilson, later convicted of selling tons of C4 plastic explosives and other weaponry to Libya, and who was also involved in Libyan attempts to obtain information on the construction of nuclear devices. It was pretty top-level material, but not during the Clinton administration.

    -archy-/-

    32 Posted on 10/21/2000 09:02:02 PDT by archy (archy@hyperchat.com)
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    To: Betty Jo

    Try here. I do not know who owns or runs the site, but it seems to be a good resource on Arab countries. If all sites within this are arranged as the one on Yemen, you can click on "chronological" to search archives of articles from Arab papers. If you never read an article, I find the timelines are often helpful. (Articles are listed in order by date with the headline given...) Believe all subsites have search engines, too. Happy hunting...

    33 Posted on 10/22/2000 20:20:37 PDT by Lion's Cub
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    To: mjohnq, Alamo-Girl

    ``All answered the same call to service and found themselves on the USS Cole headed for the Persian Gulf,'' Clinton said.

    Reminds me of the statement Clinton made back in early '93 about those killed in the BATF raid in Waco who had belonged to his security detail.

    34 Posted on 10/22/2000 20:32:53 PDT by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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    To: aristeides

    WorldNetDaily 9/24/98 ".…In his address to employees of the Treasury Department in the Cash Room on March 18, 1993, Clinton said: "My prayers and I'm sure yours are still with the families of all four of the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents who were killed in Waco -- Todd McKeehan and Conway Le Bleu of New Orleans; Steve Willis of Houston, and Robert Williams from my hometown of Little Rock. Three of those four were assigned to my security during the course of the primary or general election." …”

    “…However, the Little Rock, Arkansas, office of the ATF confirmed that all four had at one point been bodyguards for Bill Clinton, three while he was campaigning for president, and one while he had been governor of Arkansas. In the autopsies of these agents, three had virtually identical wounds to the left temple that exited through the rear of the head, execution-style. All four were treated by a "private physician." .."

    35 Posted on 10/22/2000 21:20:03 PDT by Alamo-Girl
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    To: Cvengr

    I heard this comment at the memorial service in Norf.Surreal that Clinton said a dead sailor helped in,participated in, e-mail/file GATE as he was a computer wizard.

    This is sick that EVERYTHING the man does is questioned as he is so corrupt.He bit his lip and does not give a rats a$s about those sailors.He is beyond slick he is appallingly apparent of his true colors more so daily.

    Too strange to not think maybe this kid knew and was thinking of (or did )rell a superior something Clinton did not want him to.Who knows?The sick thing IS I would not doubt it.

    36 Posted on 10/22/2000 21:31:52 PDT by HeilToTheChiefNOT!
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    To: Cvengr

    Where were all 17 exactly when they were killed?Where was slicks email gate puter wiz when the blast hit?An ET in direct hit area of the boilers is odd.

    37 Posted on 10/22/2000 21:41:53 PDT by HeilToTheChiefNOT!
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    To: Cvengr

    BTTT

    38 Posted on 10/22/2000 21:46:58 PDT by HeilToTheChiefNOT!
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    To: The way Clinton stated the

    The way Clinton stated this information by saying this kid was a wiz (or something to that nature can't remember the exact wording)on the computer.So I ASSUMED he was involved in the missing e-mail files?But after careful re-reading he was a part of the communications of the WH.Pardon my assumption.

    39 Posted on 10/22/2000 21:52:32 PDT by HeilToTheChiefNOT!
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    To: archy

    "That unit was set up and headed by Navy Intelligence officer and CIA employee Edwin P. Wilson, later convicted of selling tons of C4 plastic explosives and other weaponry to Libya, and who was also involved in Libyan attempts to obtain information on the construction of nuclear devices. It was pretty top-level material, but not during the Clinton administration. "

    Wow. I never heard of this Wilson. Before my time. THANKS! Where is Wilson now?

    40 Posted on 10/23/2000 07:22:07 PDT by japaneseghost
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    To: HeilToTheChiefNOT!

    Where were all 17?

    Who knows? The story surrounding the attack on the USS Cole changes continually. The last report I read indicates she was moored for 2 hours, refueled, watches had changed, the black zodiac wasn't the culprit but a white skiff which bobbed around the entire ship perimeter until it came between the ship and the dock then detonated with personnel on the USS Cole waving, the skiff's 2 passengers waving back then standing at attention before the Big Bang.

    Also that the white skiff had been launched by 2 mid-easterners in their late twenties from a bridge abutment several miles away, with only a 500 lb bomb as a local kid in the neighborhood had seen them in the area for several weeks and they had told him to keep an eye on their truck and boat trailer when tings were going to happen.

    On the other end of the spectrum, I've read that the entire deck and USS Cole was cover with itty bitty pieces of blown up Zodiac, black rubber.

    Initial reports were that the Cole was anchored to a bouy, away from the dock, but also a car was tumbled on the pier. Others say the Cole was still docking when the bomb went off. ANd initial diplomatic reports were that the Yemeni government denied it was a terrorist act. Later, I understand that position was reversed.

    For all I know, the entire event might be a fabrication. There appears to be no consistency in reporting of the event, except that US servicemen have been buried, injured, and a ship is heavily damaged.

    41 Posted on 10/24/2000 04:39:27 PDT by Cvengr
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    To: Cvengr

    It's worse that most people think!


    It's called "Gettin-Even-With-`Em--Ism"!!!

    42 Posted on 10/29/2000 02:41:31 PST by Yosemitest
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    To: Cvengr,Ann Archy,kattracks,uvular, backhoe,HYBRIDON

    Please read post 27!

    Look at the date!

    Defend the homeland!

    43 Posted on 09/20/2001 20:42:02 PDT by Betty Jo
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    To: Betty Jo

    I Forgot it ws ever posted.

    On another note of Clinton legacy, I was surprised to see FEMA in charge of the Pentagon crash site as opposed to a US Army or Army Corps of Engineer chain of command. When the Pentagon can't retain command and control of its own headquarters, what's to keep FEMA from controlling other affairs?

    44 Posted on 09/20/2001 21:01:19 PDT by Cvengr
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    To: Betty Jo

    Eerie deaths and "coincidences" are de riguer for those associated with ____. Recall the plane crash at Jackson Hole a few years ago that killed Al Frasciola, his electronic security man? Right during "Monica time." A very brief summary of that incident is buried in my "DUBOB" posts....

    45 Posted on 09/21/2001 02:23:45 PDT by backhoe
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    To: backhoe

    No! I do not! That sounds juicy!

    46 Posted on 09/21/2001 02:31:01 PDT by Betty Jo
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    To: Cvengr

    The newly appointed Defender of the Homeland,Governor of PA!

    47 Posted on 09/21/2001 02:32:36 PDT by Betty Jo
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    To: Cvengr

    The newly appointed Defender of the Homeland,Governor of PA!

    48 Posted on 09/21/2001 02:33:01 PDT by Betty Jo
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