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HTML Bootcamp (or Wow, how did they do that?)

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Published: 11/24/2000
Posted on 11/24/2000 05:21:53 PST by michigander

HTML Bootcamp (or Wow, how did they do that?)


FORMAT HTML CORRECTLY, MAGGOT!!!


Greetings.

Thought you'd just drop in . . . eh?

Well don't sit down yet. Because any momentary lack of alertness, will almost surely result in a reply to some comment you've made, that you thought "innocent."

And that reply, will make you wonder, "What the heck are they talking about? You said 'A,' and they jumped all over you for saying 'B,' which you certainly did not say!" Momma!

So now that we've dispensed with the non-conflicted and centered state of your mind . . .

Recruits! Welcome to HTML Bootcamp!

The tennis racquets, golf clubs, and self-esteem, which you brought here, will be shipped out ASAP!

I recommend the movie, The D.I.starring Jack Webb, because your .. toes .. will .. be .. stepped .. on!

But you will learn to survive . . . and at all hours of the day and evening.

And you will become proud to wear the the title by which members of

this force of veteran freedom fighters is known: Freepers.

"That is all." ( Psssst... You might check this out: The Flow of Cash ... and Rights )

30 Posted on 03/08/2000 18:45:42 PST by First_Salute


Line Break: <br>
When you type <br> at the end of a line of text
This is what happens.

New Paragraph: <p>
When you type <p> at the end of a line of text

This is what happens.

As far as the basics, that's all you "need" to know.


These you need to turn something "on" and "off".

Bold "on" = <b> Bold "off "= </b>
Typing in:
<b>Bold</b> no more bold
Looks like:
Bold no more bold

The rest work the same way

Italic: <i></i>
Italic

Underline: <u></u>
Underline

Strikeout: <s></s>
Strikeout

Center: <center></center>

Center

Blink: <blink></blink>
Blink

Marquee: <Marquee></Marquee>
Marquee

I've been informed that Marquee and Blink may or may not show depending on your browser. Thanks Vermonter and brityank!


Nothing to it right?
Now these require you to enter what you want between the " and ".

Font Size: <font size="?"></font> (?=font sizes; 1-7)
1234567

Font Color: <font color="#??????"></font> (??????=color)
#000000 Black
#FFFFFF White It's White, trust me it's there (highlight it with your pointer)
#FF0000 Red
#00FF00 Green
#0000FF Blue
#00FFFF Cyan
#A020F0 Purple
#FFA500 Orange
#FFFF00 Yellow
#A52A2A Brown

To: michigander

You can also use colors in English!

Font Color: <font color="??????"></font>
(??????=color)
Black
White It's White, trust me it's there (highlight it with your pointer)
Red
Green
Blue

Thanks brityank!

Click here for a all(?) the color "English" names and "#" codes.

To:michigander

One of my favorites from a previous thread is:

<SPAN STYLE="background:yellow">Highlighted Text Here</SPAN>

Which produces: Highlighted Text Here

Other colors can be used instead of "background:yellow" such as red, pink, orange, cyan, lightgreen, violet, Thanks Willie Green!

Select Font: <font face="?"></font> (?=font)
Arial
Times New Roman
Crayon
Creeper
Simplicity
If these don't show up as different fonts, these particular fonts aren't installed on your system.

These rquire you to enter where you want to go between the " and ".

How to post a picture: <img src="?" height="" width=""> (?=the address of the picture)
In this case the picture address is: http://www.freerepublic.com/images/frlogo.gif
the image height is 130, the width is 150
(It's from the FR home page)
<img src="http://www.freerepublic.com/images/frlogo.gif" height="130" width="150"> =

Be sure to add the height and width sizes if at all possible. It allows the threads to load more efficiently.

About now you may be wondering. How do I find the picture address, height, and width?

Some pointers on formatting images:
If you use an IE browser, and see a graphic you want to bring to the FR forum, just right-click on the graphic, and look at the "Properties" menu. Then highlight the "Address" listed in the Properties window, right-click on the selected Address, and choose "Copy" from the popup menu. Now the address of the chosen graphic is in your Windows clipboard, ready to be pasted.

As an example, the "China Spy Guide" graphic on FreeRepublic contains this address: http://www.freerepublic.com/images/prcexports.jpg

In order to place it on a Reply page, I would normally center the image, and add a caption underneath:

<P>
<CENTER><IMG SRC="http://www.freerepublic.com/images/prcexports.jpg" height="120" width="120"><BR>
China Spy Guide</CENTER>
<P>

The above HTML shows up as:


China Spy Guide

Thanks Cultural Jihad!

Links are a 2 step process. Where you want to go and something for the pointer to "click" on.
Link Something: <a href="?">??</a> (?=the address of the page, ??=something to "click" on)
In this case the page address is: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a17e7800d83.htm (One of the Alamo-Girl NEWCOMERS pages)
<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a17e7800d83.htm">(One of the Alamo-Girl NEWCOMERS pages)</a> the </a> turns off the link. =
(One of the Alamo-Girl NEWCOMERS pages) the </a> turns off the link.


Some more useful tips.

How did I do this?
Michigander, thanks for the writeup. I'm sure it'll help a lot of folks. But you really should have anticipated that someone's going to wonder how you managed to put the HTML commands inside brackets with no spaces and actually have them show up, instead of executing.

Folks, if you want to do what Michigander has done - making an HTML command *appear* instead of being acted upon by the browser, there's one more trick. Instead of typing < type the ampersand(&) pound(#) and 60. To make > appear, type ampersand pound 62 (no spaces anywhere). In between, you put the HTML tag you want to appear on the screen.

There may be another way to do the same thing, but this is the one I use.

</clinton>

Michael

Thanks Wright is right!

I use &lt; for < and &gt; for > because it's easy to remember "less than" and "greater than".

( And to get those to view on screen, I had to use &amp;lt; and &amp;gt; -- don't forget the semicolons!)

Thanks Willie Green

How to "Copy and Paste" text.
Highlight (darken in) the part you want to COPY with the mouse.

Do this by pressing DOWN the left click on ther mouse and HOLDING IT DOWN while you drag it over the portion to be copied.

You will see it darken in.

Then RIGHT CLICK on that darkened in portion.

A menu will come up.

LEFT CLICK on "copy" on that menu.

Go to the site you want to paste the copied part onto.

(for example free republic "reply").

RIGHT CLICK AT THAT SPOT.

A menu will come up.

LEFT CLICK on "paste" on that menu.

The copied portion will appear.

Thanks Joe Montana!

Another quick way to get the HTML codes is to go and "View Source" -- in Netscape it's on the top, or you can right-click on the page with the mouse. If you're in a Frame, select "View Frame". You can then either learn how it's done, or highlight the HTML you want, then hit Control-c to place on you're clipboard; go to where you want it inserted, and after positioning the cursor, do a Control-v to paste it in place. Or you can right-click the mouse, and those selections are there.

Remember to Preview and check the codes are working and are all </closed>.

Thanks again brityank!!

Learn to use the Search Engine.

Stop by THE LEXICON OF FREEREPUBLIC (More help for newcomers). You'll be glad you did!

Previous Threads:
HTML for FReeper Newbies
Basic html formatting
Basic html formatting
HTML Bootcamp
HTML Bootcamp
HTML Assimilation
HTML Bootcamp (or how did they make that cool post/reply?)

Listen up!
If you plan on using this fancy stuff, PREVIEW VERY CAREFULLY!!

Add a test at the end of your post/reply like "testing font normal?" or something and actually look at it when you preview to make sure it looks like the normal font you see here all the time.

Now, if for some reason you post/reply and it is still all F.U.B.A.R., come back here and copy and paste (as a reply) this handy dandy, (almost) all purpose, "turn off the damned formatting" sequence:


</td></td></td> </table></table></table> </span></span></span> </center></center></center> </blink></blink></blink> </i></i></i> </b></b></b> </big></big></big> </font></font></font> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></b></b></strong></small></center> </center></center></u></h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10></div></div> </em></em></em></em></em></big></big></big></big></big></big>


Thanks Dan Day and Lazamataz

Finally, a few words from Mr. Robinson:

Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!


Try to remember that last sentence and don't take things too personally.
At ease, as you were, smoke 'em if you got 'em, carry on, and all that stuff.
That is all.

1 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:21:53 PST by michigander (Newcomer since 10/30/1998)
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To: michigander

Good re-post. I have the original bookmarked and refer to it often. I suggest all do the same. Bump.

2 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:25:21 PST by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline

bookmarked

3 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:26:33 PST by lavaroise
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To: michigander

always a great help to know these things!

How to make a link:

How to post a picture:

How to center things

4 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:30:30 PST by rface
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To: michigander

That is NOT the current HTML tag close shotgun. Please update your records, because I found a few that needed to be added:


</table></table></table> </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> </ul></ul></ul> </ol></ol></ol> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </b></b></b> </strong></strong></strong> </small></small></small> </center></center></center> </u></u></u> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </div></div></div> </em></em></em> </big></big></big> </tt></tt></tt> </span></span></span></span></span> </style></style></style></style></style> </marquee></marquee></marquee></marquee> </marquee up></marquee up></marquee up></marquee up> </basefont></basefont></basefont>

5 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:30:41 PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks, I just combined yours and Dan Day's from previous threads. Updating now.

6 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:33:21 PST by michigander
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To: All

NICE POST - I LEARNED ALL I KNOW HERE

7 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:34:13 PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Lazamataz

Someone mentioned on a thread recently that if you start an HTML tag with a capital letter, you have to close it with a capital. Is this true? My experience is different, but it could be unique to my browser (netscape)

8 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:38:16 PST by Vermonter
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To: michigander

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS use the preview function of the post or reply page to look at the text of what you are attempting to post.

Type a couple of letters after your last HTML tag and when you preview your post see if these letters are back in the normal font. If not, correct the HTML and preview it again. If everything looks OK, delete the extra letters and post your reply

You can also test your link in the preview screen by clicking and holding on the link and opening it in a new window. If it's not the link you wanted, fix your HTML and try again.

9 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:43:24 PST by Vermonter
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To: Vermonter

Someone mentioned on a thread recently that if you start an HTML tag with a capital letter, you have to close it with a capital. Is this true? My experience is different, but it could be unique to my browser (netscape)

The HTML standard calls for this. Capitalization counts in the standard. It depends how the browser implements but better safe. The XML parsers I have dealt with are strict on this, and it may be that XHTML (newest toy coming) will be strict. Better to get in the habit now. AND MAKE SURE YOU LIFO IT: Last in, first out.

10 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:46:42 PST by Lazamataz
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To: michigander

I'm of the mindest that the less people play around with fancy html and slow loading images...the better off FR is.

But that's just me.

11 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:46:45 PST by mr.pink
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To: TheOtherOne

THIS IS WHAT I MEANT TO DO

here is the html:

< center>< table width=75% cellpadding=5>< tr>< td> < td bgcolor="#EEEEEE"> < i>YOUR TEXT HERE
< /i>< /td>< /tr>< /table>< /center>< P>

12 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:50:53 PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Vermonter

Thanks, I added that this time. ;-)

13 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:54:41 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

OOps, missed it!

14 Posted on 11/24/2000 05:58:57 PST by Vermonter
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To: mr.pink

I've seen that work just about as well as everyone ignoring "disruptors".
It just ain't gonna happen.

15 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:00:35 PST by michigander
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To: Lazamataz

I like it when people post audio clips. The theme music from your "I'm Not Leaving" opus comes to mind. It was a nice touch.

How'd ya do that? :^)

16 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:02:30 PST by Artist
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To: Artist

I was wondering the same, how do they post audio clips?

17 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:10:16 PST by csvset
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To: michigander

It just ain't gonna happen.

I know that, but the people who are not sure of using html or images play around at the expense of the smooth (and as fast as possible) operation of this site.

They should "develop" their skills outside of this forum, before showing off.

I mean, their are people who will actually call the "Drudge Siren" as an image, when one cannot even access his site in the first place due to overload. How on earth do they expect the image to arrive?

People who don't understand how this works should not indulge themselves at everyone else's expense.

18 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:13:24 PST by mr.pink
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To: Lazamataz

I use upper case in all my tags,Should I not?.
I don't post often.I understood it was a "bandwidth" thing.
As all will agree,this is a good thing.{;)

19 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:16:45 PST by reloader
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To: Artist

My < blink> blink < /blink> does't work.

My blink doesn't work.

20 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:17:41 PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Artist, csvset

Yes those are nice. But,

If you're going to do that, please just post a link to the file and give people a choice to listen to it or not.

An embedded sound file is another thing that slows down the loading of a thread and if you happen to have your sound volume turned up overly high, it'll scare the crap out of you.

21 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:18:26 PST by michigander
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To: mr.pink, michigander

If pictures are posted with height and width measurements, is the slow loading problem avoided?

For instance: < img src="URL"width="?"height="?" >

22 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:20:09 PST by Artist
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To: reloader

I use upper case in all my tags,Should I not?.

If you start uppercase, close uppercase. If you start lowercase, close lowercase.

I don't post often.I understood it was a "bandwidth" thing. As all will agree,this is a good thing.{;)

Negative. Post more often!

23 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:21:50 PST by Lazamataz
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

What web browser are you using?

24 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:22:15 PST by michigander
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Yeah, I know what you mean. My blink and marquee don't work. :^(

25 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:22:57 PST by Artist
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To: michigander

IE5

26 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:24:48 PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Artist


To: michigander

Oh, one other suggestion. When posting images - especially large ones - it is a great courtesy to add height and width parameters to the tag. This allows the browser to allocate a block of space for the image and keep on loading the rest of the thread while the image builds up.

Example: <IMG HEIGHT="yyy" WIDTH="xxx" SRC="http://www.blahblah.com">

It is easy to find the height and width using your browser. Before you post it, just "open" the image in your browser and the height and width will be displayed up on the title line at the very top of the page. Insert those numbers in the IMG tag and we will all be very grateful, since we can continue reading the meat of thread while your wonderful image loads.

Now, all you wimps who don't know how to do this, DROP AND GIVE ME 50!

12 Posted on 08/11/2000 17:29:28 PDT by snopercod
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27 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:24:55 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

"If you're going to do that, please just post a link to the file and give people a choice to listen to it or not."

Gotcha. But I'm not exactly sure how to do that either. Oh well.

28 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:26:09 PST by Artist
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To: michigander

There are a TON of html references on the Internet, one of the best of them can be seen at HERE - where you can also download a copy in zip form to use as reference on your computer.

If you are interested, I can also offer a .hlp file with a complete html reference of the most common html codes, complete with examples and visual pics of the results of use. This can be place in Windows/help and popped up with a shortcut.

There are dozens of references on the net for special character codes. This is only one of many that will turn up in a search for "html characters."

29 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:27:25 PST by Ron C.
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I have heard the "blink" doesn't work in IE and "marquee" doesn't work in Netscape. Personally, I've found "marquee" more useful.

30 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:28:21 PST by michigander (I don't know why.)
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To: Artist

Tell you what, I'll find out about the audio file postings and let you know, without the admonishment from the html wardens.

31 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:30:23 PST by csvset
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To: Artist

You've read this post and don't know how to make a simple link?!?

Thanks Ron C.

32 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:31:00 PST by michigander
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To: Artist

No marquee either.

IE5 is just being replaced, doesn't make sense that it is a software problem.

I've written both IE and Netscape with no follow-up. In fact I wrote Netscape earlier this week concerning 6.0 and if anyone uses it I have a few questions.

33 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:32:53 PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: michigander

Can you see my blink in a previous post?

34 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:34:13 PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: michigander

Huh... what's wrong with my links? 8^) They may not be 'simple' but they do work, eh?

35 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:35:57 PST by Ron C.
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To: michigander, Lazamataz

Thanks for linking the Lexicon (which incidentally may also need a bit of condensing soon!), and for your fine work on this. And thanks to all the other freepers who contributed. [I particularly like Laz's HTML shotgun! =)]

Bump!

36 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:37:17 PST by Risky Schemer
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To: csvset

Thanks very much! I was just thinking that it was strange to have a thread about HTML tips only to be told not to use a whole bunch of them.

37 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:37:24 PST by Artist
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To: michigander

You know something? I've been doing my own HTML since 1994, but I'm still bookmarking this.
(although I still prefer <STRONG> and <EM> to <B> and <I> ... you can teach an old dog "new" tricks, but sometimes it prefers the older ones; a matter of style, you might say.

TS

38 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:38:27 PST by Tanniker Smith
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To: csvset

I believe John Robinson crippled the ability to imbed audio clips in replies. You'll have to post a link to your music/sound for people to go to.

39 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:41:43 PST by Vermonter
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Blink doesn't work in Explorer and Marquee doesn't work in Netscape.

40 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:43:47 PST by Vermonter
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To: csvset

Hey, If you want to do it go here and view the source code.

without the admonishment from the html wardens.

I am not an HTML warden. I have NO special "powers" or anything else. I'm a simple member just like you or most of the others here.
Got it?

41 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:46:02 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

"You've read this post and don't know how to make a simple link?!?"

I know how to make links and post pictures. I don't know how to post a link to an audio clip. I've tried before and it didn't work using the a href code I use for other links.

Laz posts a little gray oval gizmo that you can click if you wish to hear an audio clip. That is what I'd like to know how to do.

42 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:47:27 PST by Artist
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To: Artist

If pictures are posted with height and width measurements, is the slow loading problem avoided?

If you don't know the answer to that, you should not be posting pictures.

Experiment outside of the FR forum, that would be my advice, as well as the most considerate approach to learning about html and image processing.

43 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:49:12 PST by mr.pink
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To: Ron C.

Sorry Ron,
I thought I'd save a reply by thanking you there.

Thank you for the wonderful, outstandingly perfect links. :^P

44 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:50:42 PST by michigander
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To: Artist

My blink doesn't work either!! I run IE 5.5

I have no problem with

MARQUEE

45 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:51:47 PST by Brownie74
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To: Ron C.

Try this -- not a pic, a character:

W
<span style="font-size:250pt; color:red"><B>W</B></span>

(Now I've done it.)

46 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:53:11 PST by flamefront
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To: mr.pink

"If you don't know the answer to that, you should not be posting pictures."

Well, I'm sure that a lot of other folks will be asking you questions after your kind response to me.

This is supposed to be a helpful thread guys! It is not helpful to demean people.

47 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:57:32 PST by Artist
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To: Vermonter

Thanks for the update pertaining to audio file posting.

48 Posted on 11/24/2000 06:59:01 PST by csvset
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To: Artist

It has always worked for me.

49 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:04:49 PST by michigander
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To: flamefront

5 will get you 10 that we get some reaaalllly big bumps.

50 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:05:01 PST by Brownie74
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To: michigander

NICE JOB - again!

How 'bout them 'silver & blue' cats?!!? What a difference a coach makes - now, maybe ol'Barry will come back and finish what he started!!

Dearborn (DHS'60)

51 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:06:41 PST by harpu
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To: flamefront

W

52 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:09:16 PST by michigander
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Is that W blinking in reply #52?

53 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:14:30 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

bttt

54 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:19:45 PST by WillaJohns
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To: Artist

Well, I'm sure that a lot of other folks will be asking you questions after your kind response to me.

That's okay, as I consider FR a place for political discussion.

I've never once read anything that was posted here in a blinking, colored, or oversized font that made what was being said any more, or less, important than the actual quality of the thought itself.

As for images, there is a lot more involved than just linking to them. Anyone who would suggest otherwise knows nothing about the subject, and anyone who would incourage novices to experiment at the expense of a FR discussion does a disservice to this forum, and demonstrates a lack of respect towards the important service Jim Rob has provided, as well as a disregard towards toward the speedy exchange of ideas and opinions.

55 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:21:10 PST by mr.pink
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To: Ron C.

What's the deal on the help file?

56 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:22:53 PST by reloader
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To: michigander

I have NO special "powers" or anything else.

That's good to know, as long as you are aware of it.

As far as viewing the source code, consider it done.

I suppose that "just view the source code" could be the purpose of the html bootcamp then?

Thanks for your answer.

57 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:25:55 PST by csvset
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To: csvset

as long as you are aware of it.

The fact that I stated it would seem to indicate that, Dontcha think?

I suppose that "just view the source code" could be the purpose of the html bootcamp then?

Yes I suppose. But that would be any fun though would it? :-)

58 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:35:25 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

Thanks immensely. Finally the K*I*S*S method for dummies like me.

59 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:42:44 PST by LantzALot
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To: michigander

But that would (not) be any fun though would it?

No, I suppose it wouldn't.

It appears it's much more fun (for some on this thread) to chide folks for asking a question.

60 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:44:09 PST by csvset
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To: reloader

Point your browser HERE and save the file in a directory where you can find it. It is a zip file, you'll need to decompress, then clicking on it will open it via Windows help. You can make a short cut to it and put the shortcut on the 'desktop' or on the 'task bar.'

At the very bottom of the help window that will open, look for the 'Quick Reference Guide' - other dialogs in the help file refer to an off the market html editor, but some do contain useful information. You should find the reference guide helpful - it has examples on most tags you would ever need on FR.

Warning - the zip is 514KB, and decompresses to 1758KB.

61 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:47:57 PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

lets try this:

WEEEEEEE!!!!

62 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:51:53 PST by francisandbeans
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To: Artist

How to post a sound file:

<a href="http://members.tripod.com/~jellybean3/freedom.ram">Freeeedommmm</a>

Gives you this: Freeeedommmm

If you want a picture or symbol to serve as the click point, use <IMG SRC="http://???"> instead of the word Freeeedommmm.

63 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:53:40 PST by jellybean
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To: michigander

Thanks for all your HTML help. I especially enjoyed learning Laz's shotgun trick and this:

I have wondered about that question many many times. I have bookmarked this thread for the great HTML information and for my interest in the study of flame wars. They sure do pop up on the strangest threads. LOL!!

Please keep up trying to help and educate the rest of us, most of us appreciate it.

64 Posted on 11/24/2000 07:56:07 PST by DeSoto
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To: mr.pink

People who don't understand how this works should not indulge themselves at everyone else's expense.

I agree. It's selfish, as well as an impostion to those on slower connections.

I've seen images included on threads that are 150K that could easily be processed to 20K. I also find it strange that no one has talked about the importance of the proper optimization of images, or how calling these images from slow servers ruins threads.

65 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:04:20 PST by wheezer
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To: jellybean

Thanks very much, jellybean. I really appreciate it.

I don't know why that didn't work for me before when I tried it, but at least now I know what's supposed to work.

Thanks too for the FREEDOM clip. I loved it.

Best regards,

66 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:04:26 PST by Artist
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To: mr.pink

and anyone who would incourage novices to experiment at the expense of a FR discussion does a disservice to this forum, and demonstrates a lack of respect towards the important service Jim Rob has provided, as well as a disregard towards toward the speedy exchange of ideas and opinions.

The purpose of threads like this is to help those who are not familiar with HTML and to let them experiment HERE. There is no political discussion on this thread. This one's just for fun. If you're familiar with HTML, have no wish to help others, are not interested in learning anything new and only want to discourage those who are interested; why are you on this thread?

67 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:07:53 PST by jellybean
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To: michigander

No.

68 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:09:15 PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: wheezer

....or how calling these images from slow servers ruins threads.

You mean there are more factors to be considered than just a link?

And what's all this about image optimization?...LOL

;o)

69 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:11:05 PST by mr.pink
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To: jellybean

If you're familiar with HTML, have no wish to help others, are not interested in learning anything new and only want to discourage those who are interested; why are you on this thread?

I'm here because I've seen way too many great threads ruined by the inclusion of slow loading graphics. The agruement against the encouragement of this is a fair one.

70 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:20:08 PST by mr.pink
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To: flamefront

GUCK
FORE

71 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:28:50 PST by Dirk Diggler
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To: Artist

By all means, please try one. Maybe we can see what you're doing wrong, if anything.

72 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:29:10 PST by michigander
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To: DeSoto

flame wars.

FLAME WARS?!? Where? I don't see no stinkin' flame war.

73 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:31:35 PST by michigander
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Too bad. It's a glorious sight to behold.

74 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:34:11 PST by michigander
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To: mr.pink

In every web browser I have seen (which granted is only a few), there is an option to turn off the graphics.
If you have the ability to do that, why don't you save yourself some grief and do it?

75 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:42:28 PST by michigander
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To: mr.pink

I'm here because I've seen way too many great threads ruined by the inclusion of slow loading graphics. The agruement against the encouragement of this is a fair one.

I've seen that too and it's very frustrating. I've also been on threads with a great article with NO paragraph separation and no line breaks and they're very hard to read, especially if long. The way to solve that is to help them learn how to format properly. So are you going to help educate or are you just here to pee in everyone's wheaties?

76 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:43:15 PST by jellybean
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To: jellybean

Hey jellybean,
How about a link to your WebTV help.

77 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:48:44 PST by michigander
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To: jellybean

So are you going to help educate or are you just here to pee in everyone's wheaties?

I am going to agrue the case for consideration of ones fellow Freepers.

78 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:48:48 PST by mr.pink
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To: michigander

What a great new thread for bootcamp.

You have been a great teacher this week. Just when I thought I had mastered webtv you teach me more. Thanks

79 Posted on 11/24/2000 08:59:53 PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: michigander, Ron C.

Here's a little something that I haven't seen mentioned on FR, except for the one or two times that I've mentioned it myself. It's very useful when posting articles because it allows you to post only that text (or image, table, etc.) that you're after, leaving all the extraneous detritus on the source page behind.

For users with Win 95 or later, the plug-in at this Microsoft website for web developers (at the bottom of the page) will install two features to the right click button. One is called Document Tree (similar to the one already there), and is rarely useful. The other is "View Partial Source." These new attributes to the right click menu are only active (and visible) when HTML data is highlighted on the page.

With highlighted HTML data on the page, when View Partial Source is selected a window opens containing only that data (text, image, table, etc.) which has been highlighted. All the HTML tags will be in place. The contents of that window can then be pasted to FR, or anywhere else of course, and all the stuff you don't want on the source page can be left behind.

This feature also comes in handy when you simply need to find out how a particular area on a page has been coded. "View Partial Source" shows you only what you need to see, which is lot easier than digging through all the source code for the entire page.

80 Posted on 11/24/2000 09:03:04 PST by beckett
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To: Native American Female Vet

Well lets see it. Post one for me. Just to bug mr.pink

81 Posted on 11/24/2000 09:04:59 PST by michigander
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To: michigander, Ron C.

I forgot to mention that "View Partial Source" requires IE 5 or later.

82 Posted on 11/24/2000 09:09:58 PST by beckett
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To: michigander

Hey jellybean, How about a link to your WebTV help.

Not sure which Web TV™ thread you wanted, but here are a couple from my bookmarks.

Freeper Web Tv™ Users Tools

WHY WEBTV

83 Posted on 11/24/2000 09:10:58 PST by jellybean
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To: jellybean

I'm not picky. Thanks!

84 Posted on 11/24/2000 09:16:51 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

BUSH IS VICTOR! GORE COMMITTED TO ASYLUM!

Hows that for a marquee headline?

85 Posted on 11/24/2000 09:21:59 PST by Strauss
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To: mr.pink

I am going to agrue the case for consideration of ones fellow Freepers.

A noble cause, I'm sure, but consideration also involves aiding those who wish to learn. So, are you going to help us teach big boy or just sit on the sidelines and throw stuff? :-)

86 Posted on 11/24/2000 09:28:16 PST by jellybean
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To: jellybean

I'm sure, but consideration also involves aiding those who wish to learn.

That's so true, however I have no time for teaching today and besides, everyone is doing an excellent job explaining html without my two cents.

The points I am trying to make are "image" related. I make my living designing web sites and spent hours and hours optimizing and sizing graphics to achieve the quickest possible loadtime. Explaining to clients why they should not do certain things graphically on their sites is usually the first thing I try to get across to them.

I know I sound like a wet blanket on this issue, but my reasoning is very sound.

87 Posted on 11/24/2000 10:02:04 PST by mr.pink
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To: mr.pink

That's so true, however I have no time for teaching today and besides, everyone is doing an excellent job explaining html without my two cents.

When you have more time, please do add your two cents. Some of us are interested.

The points I am trying to make are "image" related. I make my living designing web sites and spent hours and hours optimizing and sizing graphics to achieve the quickest possible loadtime. Explaining to clients why they should not do certain things graphically on their sites is usually the first thing I try to get across to them.

Then you are capable of teaching. :-) I, for one, would be interested in learning more about optimizing. You have the knowledge, why not share it?

I know I sound like a wet blanket on this issue, but my reasoning is very sound.

All the more reason to share your knowledge with us. YOU could be the one to explain why it's important, rather than discouraging anyone from even trying to learn.

88 Posted on 11/24/2000 10:28:44 PST by jellybean
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To: jellybean

YOU could be the one to explain why it's important, rather than discouraging anyone from even trying to learn.

I was not trying to discourage people from trying to learn, but I apoligize to any who took it that way.

The people who I do teach I always encourage to make mistakes and learn from them (that's how I learned...many,many mistakes). The key is to make those mistakes in the proper environment.

I'd be very happy to help you, but right now I'm swamped with work.

I respect your desire to learn, and appreciate the tone of our discussion. I'll be in touch.

89 Posted on 11/24/2000 10:55:23 PST by mr.pink
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To: Artist

I don't know why that didn't work for me before when I tried it, but at least now I know what's supposed to work.

Try it again. Maybe you just forgot a quote mark or something...it happens.

90 Posted on 11/24/2000 10:57:57 PST by jellybean
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To: mr.pink

The people who I do teach I always encourage to make mistakes and learn from them (that's how I learned...many,many mistakes).

That's how I learned also and I'll bet it's the case with everyone else here.

The key is to make those mistakes in the proper environment.

This thread is the proper enviornment.

I'd be very happy to help you, but right now I'm swamped with work.

Thanks for the offer. I'll take you up on it when you're not so swamped.

I respect your desire to learn, and appreciate the tone of our discussion. I'll be in touch.

I've enjoyed our discussion. Look forward to hearing from you.

91 Posted on 11/24/2000 11:09:27 PST by jellybean
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To: ICU812

Bump! ;-)

92 Posted on 11/24/2000 12:02:36 PST by michigander
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To: jellybean


 
 
 
What we do today will shape our future!......
 
~~~~
Restore the Love Of Truth by restoring the Rule Of Law
 
 
Stop The Fraud Now!!!!!! !
 
 
Let Our Military Votes Count Too!!!......Let Our Military Votes Count Too!!!......Let Our Military Votes Count Too!!!!! ...

93 Posted on 11/24/2000 12:15:21 PST by Minty (etequetacatra@quepasa.com)
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To: michigander

Well here's the basic idea. I prefer a show rather than tell technique of teaching with the HTML and How it will appear side-by-side for quick learning.

This is just a partial rough draft of something I've been brainstorming about for a couple of days. If you got any ideas or criticisms I'd be glad to hear it.

Paragraph <p>
HTML CodeHow It Will Appear
Every time you use the paragraph tag the text or image you are working with will skip a space. <p>Just like this.Every time you use the paragraph tag the text or image you are working with will skip a space.

Just like this.

Line Break<br>
HTML CodeHow It Will Appear
Every time you use the line break tag the text or image you are working with will move to the beginning of the next line.<br>Like this.<br>It works like the return key on your keyboard.<br>Like the return key each time you use it...<br><br><br><br>...it moves down a line. Every time you use the line break tag the text or image you are working with will move to the beginning of the next line.
Like this.
It works like the return key on your keyboard.
Like the return key each time you use it...



...it moves down a line.

Bold<b></b>
HTML CodeHow It Will Appear
If you want text to appear <b>bold</b> just enclose it in <b>bold tags</b>. Remember <b>if you forget to turn the bold tag off it will just keep working until you do</b>.If you want text to appear bold just enclose it in bold tags Remember if you forget to turn the bold tag off it will just keep working until you do.

Italics<i></i>
HTML CodeHow It Will Appear
If you want text to appear in <i>itlaics</i> just enclose it in <i>italics tags</i>. Remember <i>if you forget to turn the italics tag off it will just keep working until you do</i>.If you want text to appear italics just enclose it in italics tags. Remember if you forget to turn the bold tag off it will just keep working until you do.

Center<center></center>
HTML CodeHow It Will Appear
If you want text to be <center>centered,</center> just enclose it in <center>center tags.</center> Text automatically orients itself to the left unless <center>you direct it otherwise.</center> If you want text to be
centered,
just enclose it in
center tags.
Text automatically orients itself to the left unless
you direct it otherwise.

94 Posted on 11/24/2000 12:22:52 PST by ICU812
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To: Minty

Very good! First try? If so, you learn quickly.

95 Posted on 11/24/2000 12:22:57 PST by jellybean
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To: ICU812

WOW!!! That is excellent!!! I am in awe. If anything in any of the "Bootcamp" threads will help you, feel free to use it! Again WOW!!!

96 Posted on 11/24/2000 12:33:06 PST by michigander
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To: michigander


Is it me but is she holding something in her hand to poke ballots with?

Thanks a bunch for the HTML hints.

97 Posted on 11/24/2000 13:36:07 PST by flair2000
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To: michigander

Thanks for the wows.

I'm so peeved, I just wrote you a long response and then my browser crashed before I could post it. I haven't the time to rewrite it today. Tomorrow perhaps.

98 Posted on 11/24/2000 13:37:52 PST by ICU812
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To: flair2000

We can't see an image that has an address linked to your hard drive (C:\). It must have an internet address.
Check in some of the previous threads linked at the top for more info about this.

99 Posted on 11/24/2000 13:45:06 PST by michigander
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To: jellybean

Click HERE

P.S. Thanks for being so nice. Others may learn from you.

100 Posted on 11/24/2000 14:21:55 PST by Artist
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To: michigander

Would someone direct me to the animated .gif of the kung-fu Bush that was posted a few days ago. I've been reading past posts for 2 hours now and am throughly frustrated. Please reply to WSGilcrest@earthlink.net

101 Posted on 11/24/2000 14:54:25 PST by WSGilcrest
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To: michigander

Would someone direct me to the animated .gif of the kung-fu Bush that was posted a few days ago. I've been reading past posts for 2 hours now and am throughly frustrated. Please reply to WSGilcrest@earthlink.net

102 Posted on 11/24/2000 15:01:53 PST by WSGilcrest
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To: Artist

Nice job! Very subtle! ;^)

103 Posted on 11/24/2000 15:03:06 PST by michigander
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To: WSGilcrest

I would suggest doing an "Articles + Replies" level search for:

from:"Hillary's Lovely Legs"

She's been posting quite a few of those .gifs lately.

104 Posted on 11/24/2000 15:10:44 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

Thanks. THIS one's for you.

105 Posted on 11/24/2000 17:32:35 PST by Artist
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To: Artist

Excellent!! I knew you could do it!!

106 Posted on 11/24/2000 21:04:05 PST by jellybean
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To: Ron C.

Thank You.

107 Posted on 11/25/2000 01:13:52 PST by reloader
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To: Lazamataz

So if I use the white font, I can sh*tcan the secret decoder rig and just have the reader highlight my post's to read ???? WOW !!

And who said folks from NY have nothing to offer. You Da Man Laz !!

"Clinton & Gore Suck big Green weenies !!"

Well laugh my @ss off it work's !!

108 Posted on 11/25/2000 01:28:03 PST by Squantos
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To: michigander

Hi ! I tried to practice posting the image of the China Spy Guide in a reply to you but when I hit preview all that came up was the outline of the picture box with the colored markings in the top, left corner and the centered China Spy Guide underneath....

What am I doing wrong ?

P.S. I am a Michigander also !

109 Posted on 11/25/2000 03:53:28 PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992

You probably have the web-address wrong, or perhaps you're missing one of the quotation marks.

Try this:

<img src="http://www.freerepublic.com/images/prcexports.jpg">

(Just copy and paste it into a reply box; it should work.)

110 Posted on 11/25/2000 04:16:34 PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy

I typed exactly what you did but also added the height and width dimensions before adding the last >. I centered before typing all that and then did a line break after it followed by China Spy Guide and center off.

111 Posted on 11/25/2000 04:27:33 PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992

Well, if you're sure that you don't have any typos, and it's still not working, I don't know what the problem could be. :-(

112 Posted on 11/25/2000 04:35:20 PST by Sandy
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To: riley1992

You'll have to post it (even if it's not correct) so we can see what's wrong. Other than that we can only guess and that doesn't work very well as you've seen.

Hi Sandy!

113 Posted on 11/25/2000 08:07:19 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

I figured it out. I was typing img srg instead of src....idiot of the day ! :o)

Thanks for your help !

114 Posted on 11/25/2000 08:29:06 PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992

....idiot of the day !

Oh yeah, check this out. <:o(

115 Posted on 11/25/2000 08:51:43 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

I checked it out and ended up at Registered's AMAZING site. It was GREAT. Thanks for the link!

116 Posted on 11/25/2000 09:21:05 PST by Artist
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To: michigander

Thanks ! I feel much better now ! heehee... :o)

117 Posted on 11/25/2000 09:44:29 PST by riley1992
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To: michigander

If you want to display images from other websites here like I have above:
Type -- (OPEN TAG)img src="http://www.anyurl.com/anypicture.format"(CLOSE TAG)

118 Posted on 11/25/2000 10:00:29 PST by GwB2K
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To: riley1992

freepers

119 Posted on 11/25/2000 16:53:41 PST by riley1992
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To: michigander


The witch with the chad hole puncher!


Thought I would try this again to see if I did it right. If I didn't, I'll drop and do fifty :-).

120 Posted on 11/25/2000 17:18:01 PST by flair2000
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To: all

God Bless America, Now Let's Take It Back!

121 Posted on 11/26/2000 21:31:14 PST by HangFire
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To: michigander

November 28, 2000,
Thank you
for putting the information together. It was very helpful.

ethical

122 Posted on 11/28/2000 06:43:43 PST by ethical
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To: michigander

I'm testing

123 Posted on 11/29/2000 20:12:16 PST by uvular
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To: michigander

How do I place my state flag on my replies and posts?

<.img src="http://www.freerepublic.com/images/flags/us/virginC.gif" align=left.> (Remove the "dots" at each end)

124 Posted on 12/01/2000 21:58:30 PST by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia

125 Posted on 12/02/2000 14:17:33 PST by boop
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To: boop

click

126 Posted on 12/02/2000 14:28:18 PST by boop
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To: boop

poochface

127 Posted on 12/02/2000 14:30:03 PST by boop
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To: boop


roberts

128 Posted on 12/02/2000 14:43:22 PST by boop
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To: boop

129 Posted on 12/02/2000 14:49:47 PST by boop
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To: boop

130 Posted on 12/02/2000 15:00:14 PST by boop
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To: boop

131 Posted on 12/02/2000 19:41:08 PST by boop
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To: boop

132 Posted on 12/02/2000 19:47:12 PST by boop
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To: boop

133 Posted on 12/03/2000 08:55:56 PST by boop
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To: boop

134 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:01:04 PST by boop
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To: boop

135 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:02:33 PST by boop
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To: boop

136 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:05:54 PST by boop
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To: boop

137 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:10:36 PST by boop
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To: boop

I don't think there is an up or down. ;-)

138 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:13:11 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

Well, I'll be darned! The code is:

<marquee direction="?"> ? = up, down, right, or left (what will happen if no direction specified).

Be sure to close the tag: </marquee>

139 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:38:24 PST by michigander
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To: boop

140 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:54:37 PST by boop
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To: boop

141 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:05:11 PST by boop
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To: boop

142 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:07:08 PST by boop
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To: UpstateNYRouser

bumping for an interested party...

143 Posted on 12/07/2000 09:30:46 PST by porch swing
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I hope that all my fellow Republicans are ready to stand to the END no matter what happens! This means if gore STEALS the election, there shall be no unity in our nation! Civil war sounds horrible, but it is the only tool to right wrongs that cannot be solved peaceably!! Gore is the idiot that does not realize the tear he is making in our nation. If he wins by biased Florida Supreme Joke's decision, then he has sealed a loss in an attempt to re-run in the next election and shall not enjoy a unified nation! Gore is the challenger in ALL major time-delaying courtcases! Bush is the winner and Gore needs to grow up and step down!!!

IT IS TIME FOR ANOTHER RALLY AT THE CAPITOL, AND STATE-WIDE!!

144 Posted on 12/07/2000 23:38:58 PST by RealConservative (ShadowMaster2020@aol.com)
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To: all

btt

145 Posted on 12/10/2000 17:50:22 PST by snorkeler
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To: snorkeler

bttt

146 Posted on 12/16/2000 21:13:22 PST by timestax (zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx)
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To: michigander

Man..this IS all Greek to me... I am trying to add a pic inn my profile and all I get is the little x inside the box. I am typing including all characters after 'typing' and before 'including'...with a space in between img and src. It is all typed inside the comment box and HTML is the option I've picked. Can anybody out there help me?? Thanks Freepers.

147 Posted on 12/30/2000 21:32:44 PST by Dscott_FR
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To: Dscott_FR

I am typing (<img src=http://www.geocities.com/danamarsee/DScott_FR.html>)

Image files don't end in .html, try this:
<img src=http://www.geocities.com/danamarsee/dscott_fr.jpg>

148 Posted on 12/30/2000 21:45:23 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

Thanks a lot michigander...but it still won't work. Still get the x inside the box.

149 Posted on 12/30/2000 21:54:19 PST by Dscott_FR
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To: Dscott_FR

THIS IS WHAT I CAN DO...THANKS
I tried to do color and marquee up and down. What went wrong?

150 Posted on 12/30/2000 21:57:38 PST by abigail2
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To: abigail2

Hi abigail2...you might want to repost that to michigander...I'm more lost than you are I'm sure. :) Sorry. :) Wish I could help.

151 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:04:19 PST by Dscott_FR
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To: michigander

Way cool resource you have assembled, Michigander!

152 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:06:19 PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Dscott_FR

I'm viewing your source code and it still shows this:
Pro-Life....no apologies <img src=http://www.geocities.com/danamarsee/DScott_FR.html>

Change it to this:
Pro-Life....no apologies <img src=http://www.geocities.com/danamarsee/dscott_fr.jpg>

153 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:07:17 PST by michigander (;-)
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To: Dscott_FR

Dscott: The image you are attempting to link to is actually a webpage (notice the ".html" at the end):

http://www.geocities.com/danamarsee/DScott_FR.html

Try to use a ".gif" or a ".jpg" for image file types.

154 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:08:43 PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Dscott_FR

And don't forget to place quotation marks around the file name:

Pro-Life....no apologies <"img src=http://www.geocities.com/danamarsee/dscott_fr.jpg">

155 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:12:55 PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Dscott_FR

(Oops. Try again....)And don't forget to place quotation marks around the file name:

Pro-Life....no apologies <img src="http://www.geocities.com/danamarsee/dscott_fr.jpg">

156 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:13:54 PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Dscott_FR

Thanks anyway.....happy new year all......

157 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:14:33 PST by abigail2
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To: abigail2

Here's what you put in (less spaces of course between the < & >):
< marquee >< marqueedirection="up,down >< fontcolor="#00FF00" >< font="comicsans" >THIS IS WHAT I CAN DO...THANKS< /font >< /fontcolor >< /marquee >

Here's what it needed to be:
< marquee direction="up" > (or "down", it can't be both)
< font color="#00FF00" >
< font face="comicsans" >
THIS IS WHAT I CAN DO...THANKS
< /font >
< /font >
< /marquee >

158 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:19:46 PST by michigander
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To: Cultural Jihad

That did it...Thanks a million. I appreciate all of your help.

159 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:21:25 PST by Dscott_FR
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To: Cultural Jihad

And don't forget to place quotation marks around the file name

I've noticed many people don't do that and it still seems to show up like it's supposed to.
While I always (99.75% of the time) use them, it doesn't appear to be absolutely needed.
Do you have any insight into the subject?

160 Posted on 12/30/2000 22:36:20 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

the bumpty dance
is your chance
to do the bump...

161 Posted on 12/31/2000 00:09:48 PST by Steve (L / MA)
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To: michigander

Hi this is fatima
I am a new member and this is a test

162 Posted on 12/31/2000 14:49:29 PST by fatima
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To: michigander

CTR

163 Posted on 01/02/2001 16:12:15 PST by restornu
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To: michigander, & everyone else

A great tool I've found for copying articles to post on FR is Microsoft Web Developer Accessories. Just "View Partial Source", select all and copy. This will allow you to copy articles formatted, with working links and most pics will copy too.

These two tools help the Web developer or those who are just curious about how pages are coded. The DOM tree tool lets you view all the Document Object Model properties in tree form via right click or the tools menu. And for those who are tired of scrolling through hundreds of lines of HTML to find that one section of code that does what you want, search no more! Simply highlight the area of Web page that you want to see the source for, right click on it and select "View Partial Source." It's that simple! Not supported by Microsoft.

There are several other cool little accessories you can get at the Internet Explorer Web Accessories page, including Alexa which I find invaluable when researching news on the net.

164 Posted on 01/02/2001 23:29:10 PST by WSGilcrest (WSGilcrest@earthlink.net)
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To: WSGilcrest

And one more thing when you want to get fancy on a post. Write your post or reply in an HTML editor. View the source, select, copy, and paste to FR. Fancy text & links, will be formatted for you.

165 Posted on 01/02/2001 23:41:49 PST by WSGilcrest
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To: restornu

CTR

???

166 Posted on 01/03/2001 08:57:24 PST by michigander
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To: restornu

CTR

???

167 Posted on 01/03/2001 08:57:43 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

Instead of bump I used CTR means "chose the right" at a crossroad or do the right thing!

168 Posted on 01/03/2001 15:09:40 PST by restornu
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To: restornu

Oh! :-)
Perhaps a reference to this would be appropriate here:
Lexicon of FreeRepublic - 4th Edition

169 Posted on 01/03/2001 15:28:50 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

OK, michigander. How do you post a pic with text to the right side and then wrapping around the bottom - say a full paragraph?

170 Posted on 01/03/2001 16:20:14 PST by Texas2step
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To: Texas2step

(I swear) This is in one of the previous threads.
I will find it if you can wait. michigander's daughter wants to chat w/her friends now (for who knows how long).
I'm such a sucker for a pretty face! ;-)

171 Posted on 01/03/2001 16:41:18 PST by michigander (The trials and tribulations of the father of a teenage daughter.)
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To: michigander

I am from East Detroit now EastPointe, been in NYC-1972

Thanks for the Treasure of Good Stuff!

172 Posted on 01/03/2001 16:54:13 PST by restornu
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To: Texas2step

Follow the link here (reply #57) and use the "view source" feature (special attention to the align="left" in the img src code).
After that look at Reply #19 and Reply #91 and see who turned Lazamataz loose on all of us. :^P

173 Posted on 01/03/2001 18:13:56 PST by michigander
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To: boop

Thanks.

174 Posted on 01/03/2001 18:18:49 PST by Jimhimself
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To: michigander

Big applause!!! Man, you are good! Thanks for the help.
T2S

Just thought I would try out my new found skill...
Cool, huh?

Does the pic show??? I can't seem to get it to preview?
Now what am I doing wrong?

175 Posted on 01/03/2001 21:16:23 PST by Texas2step
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To: Texas2step

You have "img scr="
It should be "img src="

176 Posted on 01/04/2001 04:36:34 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

Indeed I do! Wow, it must have been late last night!

177 Posted on 01/04/2001 05:31:51 PST by Texas2step
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To: SlightOfTongue

Here you go. I bookmarked this one.

178 Posted on 01/14/2001 11:58:48 PST by In veno, veritas
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To: michigander

Anybody know how to upload true type fonts onto a web page?

179 Posted on 01/15/2001 14:37:50 PST by sirgawain
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To: michigander

Testing

Oh wow!

Thanks so very much!

180 Posted on 01/16/2001 09:14:12 PST by TxGrandMom
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To: Tanniker Smith, Cyber Liberty

This is a test for ME to find out what <em> does.

TEST OF EM

It appears to put the font in ITALICS, but what does EM stand for?

181 Posted on 01/19/2001 14:53:12 PST by GalFromTheBay
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To: GalFromTheBay

EM stands for "emphasis". Strong stands for "strong emphasis". They usually show up as italics and bold, respectively. Way back when, when there were just text browsers, EM would emphasize the text *somehow*, even if it meant underscoring. However <I> would give you absolutely nothing if the browser wasn't equipped to display italics. (ditto for bold).

It's a matter of style -- do you force the browser to display a certain way or let the browser do it.

182 Posted on 01/19/2001 19:48:52 PST by Tanniker Smith
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To: michigander


Trying things out!
Cool stuff!
Tres Bitchen...

183 Posted on 01/27/2001 16:52:05 PST by drew
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To: michigander


Trying things out!
Cool stuff!
Tres Bitchen...

184 Posted on 01/27/2001 16:58:34 PST by drew
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To: drew

Sorry, still working things out...
Testing.

185 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:01:36 PST by drew
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To: drew

Sorry, still working things out...
Testing.

186 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:04:00 PST by drew
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To: drew

Sorry, still working things out...
Testing.

187 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:07:42 PST by drew
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To: drew

Sorry, still working things out...
Testing.

188 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:11:24 PST by drew
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To: michigander

Having a little trouble turning off the sizes and colors.
Off now?

189 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:17:53 PST by drew
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To: michigander

Having a little trouble turning off the sizes and colors. Off now?

190 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:20:12 PST by drew
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To: drew

Close your tags!

191 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:21:51 PST by Carolina
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To: drew

does this help

192 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:23:18 PST by rh
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To: rh

test

193 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:24:41 PST by rh
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To: rh

Thanks!

194 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:30:58 PST by drew
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To: drew

A few more of those </font> thing should fix it. :-)

195 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:34:00 PST by michigander
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To: drew

Hey drew, close your tags you moron!
What are you, on dope?
Testing font size.

196 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:39:06 PST by drew
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To: drew

Eureka!

197 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:40:34 PST by drew
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To: drew

LOL, practice makes perfect.
i've made my share of mistakes while learning.

198 Posted on 01/27/2001 17:45:39 PST by rh
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To: rh


China Spy Guide

199 Posted on 01/27/2001 19:26:10 PST by cajunjim
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To: cajunjim


200 Posted on 01/27/2001 19:35:24 PST by cajunjim
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To: michigander

testing

201 Posted on 01/27/2001 19:45:14 PST by wi jd
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To: wi jd


202 Posted on 01/30/2001 08:36:18 PST by cajunjim
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To: cajunjim

P>


test

203 Posted on 01/30/2001 08:40:45 PST by cajunjim
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To: michigander

On behalf of a graduating student, probably C+ or B- Thank you.

204 Posted on 01/30/2001 08:45:43 PST by The Wizard
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To: The Wizard

Here's a graduation gift.

205 Posted on 01/30/2001 09:00:22 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

My peeve is this

Font size changes using:

<font size=6>TYPED STUFF <font size=3>
Instead of
<font size=+3>TYPED STUFF </font>

and color changes using:

<font color=red>TYPED STUFF <font color=black>
INSTEAD OF
<font color=red>TYPED STUFF </font>

206 Posted on 02/01/2001 12:43:22 PST by GalFromTheBay
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To: Theodore R.

bttt for you

207 Posted on 02/08/2001 11:09:09 PST by deport
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To: wi jd

208 Posted on 02/08/2001 12:19:06 PST by Texaggie79
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To: michigander

AYE! AYE!

209 Posted on 02/08/2001 14:26:50 PST by Joee
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To: michigander

THANK YOU

210 Posted on 02/08/2001 14:41:17 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

Thank you Practice

211 Posted on 02/08/2001 14:45:10 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

Quick get me a beer

212 Posted on 02/08/2001 14:47:09 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

ROFL

213 Posted on 02/08/2001 14:48:09 PST by nancetc
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To: boop

BOOP

214 Posted on 02/08/2001 14:56:59 PST by nancetc
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To: Native American Female Vet

Native American Female Vet

215 Posted on 02/08/2001 15:31:51 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

216 Posted on 02/08/2001 15:42:13 PST by michigander
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To: michigander


No Thanks We're driving

217 Posted on 02/08/2001 16:00:26 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc


Thank you to all you folks who know html and share it with folks like me who know nothing.

218 Posted on 02/08/2001 16:13:27 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

oops let me thank the folks at: 3dflags.com

219 Posted on 02/08/2001 16:21:49 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

The picture address you referenced:
file:///C:/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/3dflagsdotcom_us_tx2bl.gif
points back to your C:\ drive. That being the case, you're the only one who can see it. The address must point to an internet server somewhere.

Also, reply 217 needed one more </font> to turn the color off. :-)

220 Posted on 02/08/2001 17:38:01 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

ROFLMAO ahhh thanks for the help. Hmmm it is a pretty flag anyway.

221 Posted on 02/09/2001 02:40:22 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

On reply 217 I had sent an e-mail to the creator of the little car letting them know I was using the animated gif but I forgot to link to the site. I will get this stuff right before I post.... Kez has alot of animated gifs for use and I hope some will take advantage and just link back. Thanks Kez!!! Kez Site for Gifs

222 Posted on 02/10/2001 07:33:07 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

test

223 Posted on 02/10/2001 11:00:08 PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc

THIS IS THE COOLEST THREAD!!! ;D

224 Posted on 02/10/2001 11:19:15 PST by skypod
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To: michigander

Last try at links, 'cuz I've tried it twice, "live" and I'm humiliated. here

225 Posted on 02/11/2001 13:34:29 PST by Joan_of_Argghh!
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To: Joan_of_Argghh!

Your code is fine. Try this address:

http://www.amazingrace.org/Rite%20forWrong.htm

226 Posted on 02/11/2001 13:49:15 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

Do you know how people post whole frames, like JohnHuang2 does?

227 Posted on 02/12/2001 16:12:59 PST by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia

HTML hopefully fixed

228 Posted on 02/27/2001 09:24:21 PST by Lotabrain
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To: OutfromLurking!

Ping!

229 Posted on 03/01/2001 21:07:56 PST by SShultz460
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To: test

The Raccoons

just checking...

230 Posted on 03/03/2001 20:05:51 PST by In veno, veritas
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To: test

Hi, testing, testing; 1, 2, 3

231 Posted on 03/04/2001 10:30:29 PST by JUMINATR
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To: JUMINATR

I'm for mandatory HTML tag locks for certain freepers. ;-]

232 Posted on 03/06/2001 16:25:40 PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Constitutionalist733

Good stuff here for you to learn.

233 Posted on 03/15/2001 18:08:32 PST by In veno, veritas
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To: koolkitten98

BUMP!

234 Posted on 03/23/2001 17:32:15 PST by Cool Guy
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To: michigander,RightOnline,Lazamataz,Vermonter,snopercod,RonC.,jellybean,Cultural Jihad,Dscott_FR

This is not an HTML question, but a "how-to" question about getting music and songs off the internet, and then saving them to a file, and then recording them to a CD.

Is there someone on FR who is familiar with getting popular songs off the Internet? Where is the best site to get the popular songs of the 60's, 70's and 80's? Even if I have to pay for them, which site do you recommend?

Is there any special technical details about saving a song to a file?

I have access to a "CD writer", but we haven't yet used it to record or 'write' CD's. I have two packs of blank CD's, - one "R", & one "RW". For recording music, I was told to use the "R" CD's, for recording. We have a CD that is a tutorial for the CD-writer that I still have to read.

In the next several weeks, I would like to revise/edit and shorten TOP 40!, and add music and pictures. Any info & help would be appreciated.

235 Posted on 04/16/2001 00:19:08 PDT by Pacific
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To: Pacific

I haven't gotten into CD burning. What little I know was that most folks got their 'free' music from Napster. Napster has lost a lawsuit and is not supposed to provide downloading at this time, but it may still be working. Someone else is going to have to help you out ;-}

Good luck!

236 Posted on 04/16/2001 09:39:34 PDT by Vermonter
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To: jellybean

Thanks for the tip Jellybean, and don't take the WAV file personal (it's just the first one I found to test with). Headsup!

237 Posted on 05/03/2001 00:38:39 PDT by Rat Basta
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To: michigander

I'm going to learn how to fix things.

238 Posted on 07/05/2001 12:30:28 PDT by Joan_of_Argghh!
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To: Joan_of_Argghh!

What "things"?

239 Posted on 07/05/2001 12:56:52 PDT by michigander
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To: michigander

Oh, I was on the WFTD thread and didn't close a tag properly. I was trying to recreate the scenario here. Long story made short: I figured it out! I love this thread. Thanks.

240 Posted on 07/05/2001 12:59:38 PDT by Joan_of_Argghh!
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To: Joan_of_Argghh!

Oh, good for you!
I thought maybe you were going to take some sort of how to sterilize classes or something. :-)

241 Posted on 07/05/2001 13:09:21 PDT by michigander
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To: Lazamataz

</table></table></table> </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> </ul></ul></ul></ol></ol></ol> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </b></b></b></strong></strong></strong> </small></small></small> </center></center></center> </u></u></u> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </i></i></i> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </div></div></div> </em></em></em> </big></big></big> </tt></tt></tt> </span></span></span></span></span> </marquee></marquee></marquee></marquee> </marquee up></marquee up></marquee up></marquee up> </basefont></basefont></basefont>

I think we needede the /i's

242 Posted on 07/17/2001 16:16:58 PDT by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas, lazamataz

New and mproved 10 gauge close tags shotgun.

</table></table></table> </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> </ul></ul></ul></ol></ol></ol> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </b></b></b></strong></strong></strong> </small></small></small> </center></center></center> </u></u></u> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </i></i></i> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </div></div></div> </em></em></em> </big></big></big> </tt></tt></tt> </span></span></span></span></span> </marquee></marquee></marquee></marquee> </marquee up></marquee up></marquee up></marquee up> </basefont></basefont></basefont></address></address></address>

</address> causes Italians that will not turn off with </i>. J

243 Posted on 07/17/2001 16:49:08 PDT by LibKill
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To: LibKill

Whoops! That last line should have read.

<address> causes Italians that will not turn off with </i>.

244 Posted on 07/17/2001 16:51:55 PDT by LibKill
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To: LibKill

Thank you!

245 Posted on 07/17/2001 16:55:09 PDT by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas, lazamataz

</td></td></td> </table></table></table> </span></span></span> </center></center></center> </blink></blink></blink> </i></i></i> </b></b></b> </big></big></big> </font></font></font> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></b></b></strong></small></center> </center></center></u></h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10></div></div> </em></em></em></em></em></big></big></big></big></big></big></table></table></table> </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> </ul></ul></ul></ol></ol></ol> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </b></b></b></strong></strong></strong> </small></small></small> </center></center></center> </u></u></u> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </i></i></i> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </h1></h2></h3></h4></h5></h6></h7></h8></h9></h10> </div></div></div> </em></em></em> </big></big></big> </tt></tt></tt> </span></span></span></span></span> </marquee></marquee></marquee></marquee> </marquee up></marquee up></marquee up></marquee up> </basefont></basefont></basefont></address></address></address>

I forgot to put in the stuff at the start of this thread. This is the real deal. Killer of open tags!

246 Posted on 07/17/2001 17:11:35 PDT by LibKill
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To: LibKill

I think I got it all in my profile.

247 Posted on 07/17/2001 18:41:42 PDT by In veno, veritas
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To: Temple Drake

Here you go. HTML class.

248 Posted on 08/28/2001 08:53:25 PDT by SLB
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To: Lazamataz, michigander, John Robinson

That is NOT the current HTML tag close shotgun. Please update your records, because I found a few that needed to be added:

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Question:

What would stop the webmaster from adding a button to the "REPLY" screen which would insert the above (or any enhanced version which may have been developed) in front of my composition?

I recognize that I don't want to use it indiscriminantly, for fear of padding the file size of the thread egregiously. Secondly,

Would it be possible to carry the HTML tag status at the END of the thread as of the time of the call to "REPLY" over to the "REPLY" screen?

That would alert me to the need to hit that reset button I reqested above. If that were doable and implemented, would it not mightily reduce the bane of unclosed tags?

Just a thought while driving . . .

249 Posted on 09/18/2001 06:22:23 PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: SLB

Nervous nellie, posting learner. Trying to get past lurking.

250 Posted on 09/21/2001 17:44:12 PDT by CIApilot
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To: CIApilot

Let's try the basics again. (Posting learner.)

Nervous nellie...

251 Posted on 09/21/2001 17:47:26 PDT by CIApilot
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To: michigander

252 Posted on 09/23/2001 06:42:02 PDT by miniver-cheevey
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To: michigander

Watch Osama Bleed

253 Posted on 09/23/2001 06:53:29 PDT by miniver-cheevey
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To: rface

i must be missing something here, I could not see how to post a picture from a jpeg file(without ip address)how do you do that?

254 Posted on 10/02/2001 20:55:38 PDT by BOBWADE
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To: CIApilot

Finally getting into posting...need to join The Guild.
Please add me to ping list.
Have the pearls, jello mold, etc.
Will this old faithful do on the sewing?


255 Posted on 10/04/2001 20:55:49 PDT by CIApilot
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To: michigander

"Roll on America"

Just tring out some HTML


256 Posted on 11/10/2001 09:57:00 PST by XA-3Whaler
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To: XA-3Whaler

Humm? "Marquee" didn't work with the "Roll on America"

257 Posted on 11/10/2001 10:06:31 PST by XA-3Whaler
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"The Real Whale"

258 Posted on 11/10/2001 10:43:38 PST by XA-3Whaler
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"A better pic"

259 Posted on 11/10/2001 10:56:27 PST by XA-3Whaler
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To: michigander

Thanks, and bumping.

260 Posted on 12/17/2001 11:22:27 PST by Salvation
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To: EODGUY

Here is the thread that will help you with learning html [links, pics, etc]. Good luck!

261 Posted on 01/16/2002 09:10:49 PST by JMJ333
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To: GussiedUp

TESTING MARQUEE

262 Posted on 01/30/2002 10:55:14 PST by GussiedUp
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To: michigander

How come marquee works in this thread [above], but not in present posts? Like this one?

263 Posted on 02/02/2002 19:34:25 PST by porgygirl
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To: michigander

bump

264 Posted on 02/02/2002 19:41:29 PST by tutstar
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To: michigander

W

265 Posted on 02/02/2002 19:42:44 PST by porgygirl
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To: porgygirl

The marquee and span tags were disabled for use in the forum on or about 9/4/2001.
The posts before then appear to still function. This thread is a handy reference:

Free Republic Supported HTML Tags and Attributes


266 Posted on 02/03/2002 07:47:15 PST by michigander
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To: michigander

Test

267 Posted on 02/05/2002 09:36:33 PST by OldManDigging
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To: OldManDigging

Bold off

268 Posted on 03/04/2002 06:45:58 PST by gbaker
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To: gbaker

Wow sucess

269 Posted on 03/04/2002 06:48:13 PST by gbaker
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