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As first lady, Hillary Clinton had a habit of raging at even senior White House aides, hurling personal insults designed to belittle and humiliate them in front of their colleagues, according to former White House Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers.
Myers lifted the lid on Mrs. Clinton's long rumored nasty temper in an amazingly candid interview with ABCNews.com, which gathered the accounts of several former White House staffers to commemorate the end of the Clinton administration.
One vivid example cited by Myers was the internal administration debate over how to handle Whitewater. Myers, George Stephanopoulos and several others in the meeting favored turning all documents from the Clintons' controversial land deal over to the Washington Post.
But when Mrs. Clinton entered the room and demanded to know what was going on, everybody "clammed up."
"Mrs. Clinton wanted to know what was going on and she looked at George," reports Myers. "And George began to make the argument that we'd all been making and nobody backed him up. Nobody backed him up. Everyone just sat there and let George take the beating, you know.
"And Mrs. Clinton got really angry," said Myers. "She attacked George, which everyone knew was coming, which is why I guess nobody was willing to ride in there to the rescue.... Here were twelve people in the room who all basically agreed and only one of them was willing to stand up and tell her what she had asked. And that took a lot of courage."
Myers told ABC that when anyone tried to disagree with Mrs. Clinton, her temper could be vicious and more deliberately hurtful than even her husband's notorious purple rages.
"Anybody that stood up and tried to say this was a bad idea was, you know, smashed down and belittled, very personally," the Clinton loyalist revealed. "And I mean where I said the president didn't really attack people personally, Mrs. Clinton sometimes did."
The one-time Clinton spokeswoman said that White House staffers lived in fear of the first lady because her attacks sometimes wouldn't end when her temper tantrums subsided.
"Not only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around," Myers said, "Hillary tended to kind of campaign against people behind their back, and that was certainly my experience."
"She was not happy with me, but she never confronted me. She would go call (then-White House chief of staff) Leon (Panetta) in and yell at him and then he'd have to call me in and say, 'Mrs. Clinton is really upset about X. You said Y, and she disagrees with that, and you know, she wants you to fix it,' or whatever."
Myers is the first Clinton loyalist to go public with charges that Mrs. Clinton would brutalize White House aides with her rages.
Previous accounts of Clinton's notorious temper were generally dismissed by mainstream reporters as the grumblings of disgruntled former employees.
Nearly two years ago, Hillary biographer Barbara Olson reported that White House counsel Abner Mikva was so incensed over Mrs. Clinton's conduct that he resigned after one profanity-laced upbraiding by the first lady.
Another Clinton biographer, Gail Sheehy -- who has spent hours with the first lady since the 1992 campaign -- wrote that Clinton seemed to be "in a perpetual state of suspended anger."
Once Hillary even tried to kick an Arkansas state trooper bodyguard who got in her way, according to Clinton biographer Christopher Andersen.
And one-time White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported in 1996 that junior White House staffers were ordered not to make eye contact with the first lady lest they anger her.
But during her New York senate campaign, the media never touched on these and dozens of other accounts about Mrs. Clinton's temper, portraying her instead as a warm and genuinely likeable personality.
But during her New York senate campaign, the media never touched on these and dozens of other accounts about Mrs. Clinton's temper, portraying her instead as a warm and genuinely likeable personality.
The New York media rolled over on it's back and spread it's little lapdoggie legs in s show of submission to the top dog.
And so it begins...I love it!
sw
"But during her New York senate campaign, the media never touched on these and dozens of other accounts about Mrs. Clinton's temper, portraying her instead as a warm and genuinely likeable personality."
This should be a lesson to those who tend to dismiss the actual Power of the Media ---
This will not come as a surprise to anyone.
Maybe people will start spilling the beans on Chinese espionage too.....
Dee Dee Myers was fired from her White House gig when Bill Clinton found out that "Dee Dee" was her first name and NOT her cup size.
I don't need Dee Dee to tell me things that manifest themselves to instinct.
temper could be vicious and more deliberately hurtful than even her husband's notorious purple rages.
staffers lived in fear of the first lady because her attacks sometimes wouldn't end when her temper tantrums subsided.
campaign against people behind their back
brutalize White House aides with her rages.
"in a perpetual state of suspended anger."
ordered not to make eye contact with the first lady lest they anger her.
Hillary Rodham Clinton:What Every American Should Know How could a liberal Democrat activist who professes to be a champion of the little people scornfully step on and squash so many of them in her rise to power and prominence? Watergate toppled a president. Whitewater didn't. From day one, it was clear to me that if Mrs. Clinton decided to seek a U.S. Senate seat from New York, the media would not subject her to the same level of scrutiny that they subject every candidate from every political party for every electoral contest in the nation.
I am really looking forward to one thing about the Clinton administration. That is the tell all books and stories that I expect to see after Clinton is no longer in office
2 New Years resolutions:
1. Expose Hitlery so that everyone knows the real her.
2. Promote enforcement of the Beck decision so that a dagger is stuck into the heart of unions who rip off members' money to use for leftist political purposes.
The New York media rolled over on it's back and spread it's little lapdoggie legs in s show of submission to the top dog.
I fail to recall one -- and I mean ONE -- tough question from the New York media.
I hereby coin the term New Joke to refer to New York.
It really says something about the caliber of the Clinton White House staff when George Stephanopoulous turns out to be the courageous one.
NOWWWW!!!!
Tell US something that
WE DO ""NOT""' KNOW..........
Dee Dee Myers was fired from her White House gig when Bill Clinton found out that "Dee Dee" was her first name and NOT her cup size.
Arf. :o)
Don't you just KNOW that Bill Clinton was knockin' the bottom out of that?
I wonder if the sinator hillary! has had any Secret Service volunteers step forward yet? Last I heard, she hadn't.
Somehow, I don't think her little "secrets" will be as well kept once she becomes one of 100 Senators.
dum dum (oops, dee dee) doesn't have anything to lose now that clintbilly is leaving office, and I suspect she's enjoying trashing the wicked witch of the left wing.
Who will be next to dish the dirt???
Isn't it remarkable how often Ms Myers is quoted saying, "you know"? Here's a woman who made her living with words and she laces her conversation with that empty filler "you know". Look closely at the language, DeeDee's quotes use passive language ("kind of") sound like a nervous woman reluctantly revealing ugly family secrets.
Which Senator will be the first to succomb to her tirades?
Any takers?????
Chuckie Schumer? He thinks he's the senior senator from NY. What nerve!
"Anybody that stood up and tried to say this was a bad idea was, you know, smashed down and belittled, very personally,"
Sounds like Senate debates with her are going to be real fun.
Seems like it would be neat to get her to have a psychotic episode on CSPAN
What boggles my mind is how people would associate themselves with this kind of person..?? Aside from Abner Mikva, why haven't more people just told her to shove it up her ample behind? I guess the answer is their politics are more important than their self-esteem...
A SCORPIAN HAS A STINGER THAT SHOULD BE KEPT AT A DISTANCE.
Hillary a B---h?
I think she deserves to be promoted to a C---.
So, Dee Dee sat by while George got blasted and seems to regret it. Of course she also remained quiet when Hillary! ran for the Senate. What a wonderful German citizen Ms. Meyers would have made in c. 1940 Germany...
Which Senator will be the first to succomb to her tirades?
I want her to jump in Jesse Helms' stuff once. She might find out she has bitten off more than she can chew.
Myers lifted the lid on Mrs. Clinton's long rumored nasty temper in an amazingly candid interview with ABCNews.com, which gathered the accounts of several former White House staffers to commemorate the end of the Clinton administration.
This of course comes as no surprise to anyone paying attention to the antics of the Clinton's for the past eight years. You only have to look at Hillary to see the hardness of the woman ... her countenance is one of arrogance ... she has "bitch" written all over her. It will indeed be a pleasure to have Laura Bush as a first lady ... there could be no greater contrast.
CONFUSCIOUS SAY
"Wife who put husband in doghouse soon find him in cat house."
And the dumb liberals are stuck with her for 6 more years. She's going to make Chuckie Schummer toe the line, will browbeat Dashel, and generally make an a$$ of herself in DC. I think she doesn't really understand how the senate really works and it's going to be a shock to her system when she finds out that traditions are a lot stronger then she realizes.
Thank for the link-- I pushed this book every chance I could get while Hillarrhea!© was "running."
Time for guerrilla war from the 'web...
SONG PARODY: Winnie the Pooh (Hillary *itch -- says Dee Dee Meyers)
Who could be surprised?
Remember that Bill recently awarded "medals" to the staffers who had the fortitude to remain with Hillary! during all 8 years in the WH...I don't believe there were very many of them...
You don't really expect her to tell anything that even remotely tells the truth do you. Save your money.
Good observation.
Oops!!!! Good Observation, you know!!
Okay, THANKS, Dee Dee.
So NOW you tell us? You are Hillary's collaborator.
Carl Limbacher
F****ing Jew Ba****d!!!
I read in Aldrich book that even the janitors quit.
"A charitable description of her is Leona Hemsley with... PMS."
The New York media rolled over on it's back and spread it's little lapdoggie legs in s show of submission to the top dog.
.....more likely to show that they have been neutered.
The song is up and running. WINNIE THE POOH (HILLARY *ITCH)
NY has a bitch instead of a wuss oh well keep her, please.
I can't wait for the next one to jump off of the sinking ship SS Klinton and let us know what we already knew - that it wasn't the good ship lolipop that the media portrayed!
What's the difference between a clever midget and Hillary Clinton? One's a cunning runt and the other's a......
Fast forward to 2004 (*).
Hillary Clinton, the First female US President.
She won the race handily, on her pledge to bring back prosperity and order, after the economic decline, and chaos under the now defunct Bush Administration.
W.J. Clinton. The first US-born Secretary General of the UN. He brokers a peace deal between the Muslim world and Israel. States that he intends on setting up quarters in Jerusalem.
I'm sure there's a few here, who know where I'm going with this.
Are we under the old Chinese curse "May you live during interesting times"?. No doubt at all.
You may not need DeeDee to tell YOU these things but plenty of American VOTERS do.
I once worked for a woman much like hitlary, after she fired me I called on all my old accounts and enlightend them about my ex boss. next thing I know ATF is knocking on my door wanting to know what I knew about a couple of firebombs.Of course they didn't believe a word I said and had to take 2 polygraphs to clear myself. one night the ATF visited me telling me a threat was made on my life and to send the kids off for the night. that was scarry. needless to say she is in the fed pen but anybody that has to go through a federal polygraph from the FBI has no idea what it can be like. at the time I was 40 and had to tell them my life story since I was 10 years old so they could conduct it. think of all the things that you have not only done but have thought about doing. Polygraphs work but hope ya dont ever have to take one from FBI.
And one-time White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported in 1996 that junior White House staffers were ordered not to make eye contact with the first lady lest they anger her.
Now I know she thinks she is a queen. She was not born in the right century for this kind of BS.
I have read reports that the Secret Service cannot find volunteer agents that are willing to be assigned to her security detail. There have been rumors that there may be an agent or two that will be "telling all." They should remember though, how Clinton's security detail officers when (he was governor), later gave him up and, how they were then persecuted by the press.
Dee Dee Myers: Hillary's a B - - - h
Dee Dee Myers: Hillary's the wicked WITCH of 1600 PA. Ave.
And where was the American press and the world when Aldrich told us this and so much more in his book "Unlimited Access"???
Didn't the press pretty well wipe out Leona Helmsley for pretty much the same activity?
How bad does one need a specific job?
What happened to these targets after the succubus left the room?
Well, this IS big news, isn't it?
Talk about being a day late and a dollar short.
I guess Dee Dee wants to work after January 20th, huh?
I find it hard to believe such a sweet thing turned into Hitlary!!
Yuck, Yuck, Yuck.
The Clintons scar and damage people, and people let 'em. Something to do with getting ahead or somethin'. For many it just ends up ahead stone.
I don't know why this surprises anyone. We need to begin to stockpile ammo now for Hillary's 2004 run.
After eight years of listening to the media tout Hillary's "brilliance," (and still awaiting evidence of it)to an extent rivaled only by the alleged "brilliance" of David Boies, it will be interesting to watch her try to pull her own wagon in the senate for the next six years.
It is easy to be the consumate bully, when you've got a really big brother to fall back on, less so when you have to actually fight the battles you start.
The Clinton's made relatively decent people do things and push policies and legislation that suited the ClinTAX agenda.
How would any of us have liked to work for that Bastard and Bitch?
The Clinton's made relatively decent people do things and push policies and legislation that suited the ClinTAX agenda.
How would any of us have liked to work for that Bastard and Bitch?
How would any of us have liked to work for that Bastard and Bitch?
We've had to be there servants for 8 long years. We've all endured their wrath in one way or another, except for New York. They just ADORE their prominent new citizen.
there=their
With Terry, what's his face, as head of the Democratic Party, Hillary will never have to pull her own wagon, even in the Senate. Any Congressman/Senator, hoping for campaign money must do as they are told by Clinton.
Clinton is trying to make himself puppet master of the demoncrats in the House and Senate. The black members of the party are trying to block Terry Acliffes nomination, I doubt they will succeed since the pawns are not allowed that kind of respect.
With Hildebeast in the Senate, C-Span will become a comedy channel. I look forward to seeing the "old boys" clip her Harpie wings.......
Which Senator will be the first to succomb to her tirades? Any takers?????
It probably won't be a female senator--I imagine the first one she will rip into is Orrin Hatch, followed by Lieberman, and then Strom Thurmond, especially if he tries to feel her ankle. If she rips old Byrd, he will looked pained but turn the other cheek.
Come’on Laz, New York isn’t stupid, but it was stolen!
Now these are some serious Jews!
http://www.shmais.com/
Most people picked by the Clintons as aides and employees, much like George Stephanopolous, are weak-minded, moral-less, true believers---the scum of the earth.
Who is going to work with her in the Senate? There are going to be a small handful of the usual liberal suspects women following her around like pet monekys, but everyone else is going to treat her like the pile of stinky doo she is. After a few years of this appearing on Cspan, the Dems are going to lose an aweful lot of their following, and Bush will win in 004 by a landslide, long coattails included.
Nah, she'll go after small fry first. Maybe Wellstone, for no good reason.
BINGO!
If New York wants Hillary! fine by me as long as they keep her on the porch and from droping her loads in my yard.
It's not much of a news flash that Hillary is a B**ch.
Look at her eyes, which is where a smile really shows. There is not a vestige of a smile.
It brings to mind Quint's (sp?) chilling lines in Jaws describing sharks eyes as being dead. Brrrrrr-scary-as she is.
FReegards,
Someone needs to take that picture and put it all over the net........UCK IS SOOOOO RIGHT,,,
Hillary's brillance is as much a myth as is Dan Quayle's stupidity and both were manufactured by the media.
I am sorry to have to make this comparison because it has become clichéd, but Hillary!s management style resembles Hitler's, sounds like.
It really says something about the caliber of the Clinton White House staff when George Stephanopoulous turns out to be the courageous one.
No kidding. But you know they carefully chose their staff so that no one with any backbone or scruples would be around. Of course, a few useful idiots were aboard. Wonder how long it took for the blinders to come off?
Fools like Dee Dee deserve scorn; the ones who remained deserve prosecution.
", but everyone else is going to treat her like the pile of stinky doo she is."
There already is a brew ha ha formenting in the Senate over who is going to try and get the popular vote to be the one that counts. Remember the first senator to announce? It was Arlen Spector, the senior senitor from PA. Three days later, Hillary announced she would do this. Please hope that she tries to take on Spector.
Oh, oh, it's magic......when they fight amoung themselves.
What you see in Hillary, is the manifestation of the Feminist/Gay agenda, where getting and maintaining power is the ONLY consideration.
The anger these people feel at their own shortcomings are beyond anything most of us feel in this society. Radical Feminists believe that the world would be their's except for the fact that they are women, they see their femaleness as an affliction, in the way that Gays see their sexuality as an affliction.
Both groups seek to attach their agenda's to the Black movement, as it shows an example of how to overcome a majority through emotion-based arguments instead of logic and reason.
The mantra is the same as a child having a tantrum:"Do what I want or I will make you MISERABLE!!" Its effective when the opposition doesnt have the will or the backbone to slap the crap out of the misbehaving child (or liberal)Why else would their agenda seek to demonize all forms of punishment, personal responsibility or disipline? Were this a nation of brave adults, Feminists and Gays would be a minor irritation today, instead of a force that threatens to destroy this country from the inside.
Tell me, Freepers; Have any of you EVER seen anyone in the Clinton or Hillary administrations that could be considered a real man? Notice how the men are all gay, or gayish, how the women are all strident and harsh, lacking feminine qualities? Does anyone think this is accident?
It was nice of D D to wait until that Arky bi--h has been elected and we can suffer with her for the next six years before saying what we all knew anyway. Only the Arkansas troopers had the guts to really portray her like she was, is and will be.
What a change! When D.D. proudly wore her knee pads at the press briefings, she did not reveal any of these points. This is probably an introduction to a book. How many $ will a publisher be willing to give D.D. for her dedicated service to her country?
"I want her to jump in Jesse Helms' stuff once. She might find out she has bitten off more than she can chew."
You can forget her jumping into any senators' stuff. Her type (Bully) only take on people who won't or can't fight back. She will do her dirty work behind the backs of Sen Helms et al.
But boy do I pitty her poor staff. Or do I? If they are dumb enough to stand there, (Like DEE DEE) and let a witch like Her talk to them like they were dogs, then this ole country boy has no pitty on them.
Nearly two years ago, Hillary biographer Barbara Olson reported that White House counsel Abner Mikva was so incensed over Mrs. Clinton's conduct that he resigned after one profanity-laced upbraiding by the first lady.
How many White House counsels has this administration had? A lot, in any case. Now we learn why one of them, Abe Mikva, left the job. I don't remember when and over what he left. Does anybody remember the timing?
Well, this may be the first of the exposés that we have been expecting will come from White House veterans once this administration ends. I wonder how many more will follow.
This report by Dee Dee Myers certainly tends to confirm the "f***ing Jew b******" story.
Have any of you EVER seen anyone in the Clinton or Hillary administrations that could be considered a real man? Notice how the men are all gay, or gayish, how the women are all strident and harsh, lacking feminine qualities? Does anyone think this is accident?
This was written about in Aldrich's book "Unlimited Access". I take it you read the book?
Dee Dee Myers: Hillary's a B - - - h.
Actually, isn't it payback that's a b***h?
"Relatively decent people" do not normally stand for the kinds of things that the Clinton's "made" these people do. They may let a few of the things that went on go by, but once the pattern has established itself, "relativeley decent people" generally turn perpetrators of crimes and gross indecencies over to the proper authorities.
"And Mrs. Clinton got really angry," said Myers. "She attacked George, which everyone knew was coming, which is why I guess nobody was willing to ride in there to the rescue.... Here were twelve people in the room who all basically agreed and only one of them was willing to stand up and tell her what she had asked. And that took a lot of courage."
This sentence speaks volumes about the people the Clinton's tend to surround themselves with. It is somewhat surprising to me that so many put up with so much from these two. This group does not strike me as "relatively decent people". Granted, not everyone will stand up for themselves or others, even I need to be pushed quite far before I act, but I find it hard to believe that someone in this crowd was not pushed beyond their limits by the Clinton's. And that's going on just what we know happened in the White House.
Avoidance of eye conact is often a sign of a seriously troubled person. Frequently, this sort of person is subtly or not so subtly paranoid.
"It will indeed be a pleasure to have Laura Bush as a first lady ... there could be no greater contrast."
I was shocked by the contrast as I watched them holding hands just a few days ago!!!
Did Laura need the reassurance of holding Hitlery's hand? Or was it the other way around?
It was almost as troubling a sight to behold as watching the Gorey one's audacious attempt to steal the world's most powerful position after the whistle had blown!
Can anyone explain a rationale for this display other than some symbolic attempt at "healing a hoplessly divided nation?"(/psycho-babble)
Nope, never read the book, just my own observation.
Dee Dee didn't wait for Hellary to get elected. This interview was done in June 2000. The press just didn't advertise it.
I fail to recall one -- and I mean ONE -- tough question from the New York media.
I couldn't agree with you more. However, I often wonder what the H@#@ was wrong with New Yorkers that "they" could not see this ???????
I'm not surprised, as this is old news.
Remember when the news came out that ol' Thunder Thighs was referring to certain Jewish people as JBs? As support to that allegation, this story was offered up as additional evidence.
It was also discussed when Stephanopolous wrote his book, though that might have been in the same time period.
Probably true, just old news.
Your observations are incredibly right on. You are tuned in. I didn't pay no heed until reading Aldrich's book. He worked in the WH for several years and then a few more years through the Clinton administration until he couldn't handle it any more.
Don't you just KNOW that Bill Clinton was knockin' the bottom out of that?
Never thought about that! Could this be the first of many with unrequited love and promises of a future with the Prez?
Polygraphs work but hope ya dont ever have to take one from FBI.
Yeah, but you must admit that it's preferable their infamous "baptism by fire".
"I hereby coin the term New Joke to refer to New York."
Probably not original with me, but my favorite newly coined explitive is "BULL CLINTON!"
Kinda like a dual-purpose compound explitive that may even refer to her sexual orientation to a great degree along with his total lack of integrity, "ya know?"
There is something so SQUISHY about people that wait until after someone like Hillary is elected to the U.S .Senate to speak out. This type of person has a very limited understanding of honor. She remained silent to help this shrew get elected. The man running against the Shrew in the primary could have used Dee Dee Myers help. Now Myers waited until the Shrew became more powerful to relate her story. Go away Myers and let more honorable people try to deal with important things. Nothing you could say not will make anyone think you have a spine or any honor. Just go away with all the whitehouse liars and cheats. America needs people with a sense on honor. The whitehouse staff make me ill.
Reading all these opinions stating Hellary is going to have a hard time as a Senator, I hope everyone is right !! I couldn't be more happier, but, I wonder !! Just the other day, on one TV station (most likely Fox news) they stated that having her in the Senate "they feel like a hollywood star is among them now. She is looked at as a star status."
Boy talk about me being dissappointed !! I'm hoping finally she will get her dues.!!! But, I don't know now. Ya never know with the way these two characters keep trudging on up to the top !!
Vincent Foster looked like he might have been "a real man". But he is dead. Why?
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Thank for the link-- I pushed this book every chance I could get while Hillarrhea!© was "running." Time for guerrilla war from the 'web...
29 Posted on 12/26/2000 13:06:34 PST by backhoe
Fast forward to 2004 (*).
Hillary Clinton, the First female US President.
She won the race handily, on her pledge to bring back prosperity and order, after the economic decline, and chaos under the now defunct Bush Administration.
W.J. Clinton. The first US-born Secretary General of the UN. He brokers a peace deal between the Muslim world and Israel. States that he intends on setting up quarters in Jerusalem.
I'm sure there's a few here, who know where I'm going with this.
Are we under the old Chinese curse "May you live during interesting times"?. No doubt at all.
45 Posted on 12/26/2000 13:20:57 PST by Psalm103
I should have posted the link more than I did, backhoe.
She won a battle. Maybe the guerrillas can keep her from winning the war (Presidency or V.P.) this decade.
I think the Democrats will look for someone who is inwardly ruthless with a marketable exterior - someone like Hitler.
"And where was the American press and the world when Aldrich told us this and so much more in his book "Unlimited Access"???"
Well, George Will was busy cutting him to shreds on This Week.
There's a parody waiting to be written about Her Hillaryness in the Senate :-) The cast of (no)characters is there and waiting.
Frequently, this sort of person is subtly or not so subtly paranoid.
Drug induced? Or do deeply disturbed folks have paranoia. Could this also be deep guilt?
Oh boy! The rats are telling the dirty little secrets before the clintons are even out of office. I love it.
Excellent post highlighting a distinct, yet hidden, point that some have managed to grasp.
Bubba and Hitlery are mere symptoms. They are not the deep problem we have faced and still will face after their departure. The real problem is what truly made them possible. What gave them strength and license. A media as evil and powerdriven as they are. A media that would find great comfort in Germany's propaganda machine.
Sure, they vehemently deny such comparisons yet without the goose-step approach to leftist candidate coverage, such evils as the klintoons could never find public favor.
There already is a brew ha ha formenting in the Senate over who is going to try and get the popular vote to be the one that counts.
Ain't gonna happen.
The Electoral College has just had its foundations recemented for at least the next hundred years.
Let the Hildabeast tilt at this windmill. Maybe she'll stay out of the way. Out of sight, out of mind. I hope.
Myers, George Stephanopoulos and several others in the meeting favored turning all documents from the Clintons' controversial land deal over to the Washington Post.
And then we yada...yada...yada.
Point is, Ms. Myers, none of you did that so you are as guilty as the Clintons for what we had to endure. Just trying to cleanse your soul, I see.
"Are we under the old Chinese curse "May you live during interesting times"?. No doubt at all."
You left off the most interesting part of that curse, that continues... "and come to the attention of powerful people!"
People having dfficulty making eye contact usually have a serious problem and usually have paranoid features to that problem with background being pervasive, intense anger. One can postulate many reasons: it is more of a finding than anything else.
By the way she also shows a "scleral flash" on occasion. This is when one can see the white of her eyes above her pupil. Usually, only trained movie actors and very angry, anxious and suspicious people can do this without raising their eyebrows. The exception to this is a person with a thyroid or other conditions causing proptosis.
How could a liberal Democrat activist who professes to be a champion of the little people scornfully step on and squash so many of them in her rise to power and prominence?
There's an old saying -- to see what a man (or woman) will be like to you if you marry them, watch how they treat the waiters/waitresses at the restaurants you go to.
How people treat those they consider "underlings" (or whether they consider ANYONE to be an "underling") speaks volumes about what they're REALLY like.
That is a real loser comment you made. What does his religion have to do with anything on this thread?
Hi doug from upland. Sad to hear about the election of your "new" senator. The news media will NEVER, EVER, print what a hateful creature this woman is. They will protect that broad backside of her's until she reaches the whitehouse. The only reason she stayed with the boy president was to ride his coattails into the highest office in the world. I've believed that from the first I ever heard about her. She will do, say and try anything to get herself back into that house. Just looking into her eyes, even while she is trying to look soft and sweet, tells one, that she is as hard hearted as anyone can be. Her eyes are hard and calculating. Shrews are soft and cuddly compared to sweet hillary.
Hillary Leona-Helmsley Clinton: "Only the little people pay taxes."
Cut from the same cloth...burlap potatoe sacks!
like many in her generation Hillary has needed at least three good asswhippings for at least 30 years. The lack of that has produced a wave of vicious tyrants.
Hey appy pappy, I would like to revisit my criticism of your comment. I think you might be referring to Hillary using that phrase. I thought you were referring to Limbacher. If so, I am sorry.
"Mrs. Clinton not subject to regular mainstream treatment"
BINGO!!! If people think she will not be able to take on a conservative in a presidential bid and win - you are fooling yourselves. This to me is why the Clintons have to be stopped now! Even though they still wield tremendous power - unknown to most of us - now they will not have the IRS or the Justice dept to run interference. I really want these people prosecuted - not for vengence, but for the sanctity of this nation surviving another attack via Hitlary.
"Why do people ..."
The simple answer is: POWER! When you want power, you can be willing to do anything. It seems to be more democrats than republicans who think that way. Because if you expose it, you look stupid - as will all the dems who will now come forward with all their gossip. What that says to me is they have no honor, no integrity, no character, and no courage. They were willing to do her bidding just to be in the "power" group. Excuse me, wasn't that the way it worked on the playground?? Is anybody getting the picture? These people are so immature - just children throwing their little temper tamtrums. Just the typical bully - shoving their way into power. Hitlary thinks she untouchable - this is not a smart way to think!
And one-time White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported in 1996 that junior White House staffers were ordered not to make eye contact with the first lady lest they anger her.
Which is why I was so impressed with Rick Lazio when he got in her face and called her what she is - well, almost called her what she is. It was on national television. lol.
Mobbed up.
#57, no dear heart, she won't pull her weight for 6 years in the senate. "The People" will beg her to run for president in the year 2003 and she will grudgingly set out on a listening tour for the next 2 1/2 years, with the willing alphabet press breathlessly reporting the total earnestness with which she listens to each and every "Victim" in America. She will take copious notes, frown, shake her coiffed head, and listen. She will appear before only those people who agree with her. Every appearance will be staged, every interview, will be given to her beforehand so she will know how to answer the questions asked. When she "debates" the Republican opponent, again, she will be given the script so she can give just the right answer. She will never go before a group of reporters to be questioned, she will never go on a tv sunday show to answer to anything. After she wins the presidency, she will appear on the Larry King Show, and he will be so proud to introduce the first female president of the u.s. BARF !
I really want these people prosecuted
If they don't confirm ASHCROFT as AG, then appoint Gary Aldrich as interim for 4 YEARS.
Not make eye-contact...
In the military, there was a 4-star like that. On a moment's whim he would loudly order "displeasing" beings out of the room. It was known by those around that he was psycho; yet his power had somehow grown so great that insubordinates dare not speak. I do not, however, know that he had a wreath of dead bodies in his orbit...;)
Hillary is coming: stand firm at your posts. Pray for her every day. The Lord will put in office those whom He will put in office. Our job is to stand. No retreat; no compromising. Make her kill us. Death to tyrants indeed.
You said it, not me! LOLOL!
New York elected Hillary, now let them be represented (not served) by that lunatic.
The simple answer is: POWER!
I don't doubt what you say, but I just can't fathom how being a doormat can give anyone a feeling of power. Maybe it's like being with the "in-crowd" in high school. I don't think I'd fare well being a minion...
Did Laura need the reassurance of holding Hitlery's hand? Or was it the other way around?
None of the above. brunhillary was just putting on yet another act. I'm sure she thought it was "called for"; and if Laura had withdrawn her hand in horror, the press would have had a field day with it!
Laura played it just right. She'll be a wonderful First Lady.
Laura needs none of that crap, hillry needed LAURA and Laura knew it. Go away Hillry, we don't want you and if you for President in 2004, all of us real WOMEN will be against you!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re:The artcle, bout time someone in the media did their jobs and reported the truth and did not suppress with BS.Just looking at Hillary and Bill even non intuitive folks can see right through their hillbilly bull and anger if any so called right wingers ever get a word in or win.Imagine the real fits of anger over W!
#121, Hey, I feel your pain! But, my point was simply that, as First Lady she had no peer, and her Eleanor Roosevelt hogwash was insulated from attack because she was the FirstLady. Since she was not an elected official (despite the "two for one" nonsense), her crackpot policy theories (It takes a village) had no political effect... she was political white noise.
As Trent Lott said, I believe, she will now be (just)one of a hundred Senators, senators whose gargantuan egos will make Hilary's "talk to the hand" bitchiness seem like a walk in Giuliani's Central Park. As a Senator, there is simply no way she will have the same access to the press and ability to manipulate press conferences that she had as First Lady. As a Senator, she will be accountable for her positions and will be a legitimate political target. In sum, she must now put up, or, (please, please, please) Shut up!
but Shrillery is dangerous to their very lives!
Ooohhh! Good one!!
Think about this one, FReepers!
Not wanting to provoke any Hillery-like rages, but I don't think Bubba's knocked the bottem out of anything but a McDonald's container. Reading abive, between and below the lines of biographies, scandel sheets, true confessions, etc. makes me suspect Budda's dealing with a limp wick.
I think this is what drives him. Public adulation is the only rush he gets that's not chemically induced. Even with Monica, Widow Hand and the five maidens had to finish the job.
Whitewater was more than the name of a real estate venture. It's the story of his pitiful life. So Hitleresque.
The man running against the Shrew in the primary could have used Dee Dee Myers help. To what purpose? She never answered the hard questions; never permitted the press to get closer than a city block; never appeared on a talk show and certainly had no record to speak of. A month before the election we learned of her "FJB" remarks, closely followed by reports she accepted money from an Arab group and then lied to cover it up. In the interim, we had a published letter from Juanita Broaddrick asking her for an apology. And through it all, what did the "tough NY press" and the moroons in New York harp on -- the fact that Lazio invaded her space during a debate, tsk tsk.
This election was fixed from the get-go as there were far too many New York supporters giving us the thumbs up during our many freeps and many more who verbalized their utter disgust towards this woman.
I should have posted the link more than I did, backhoe.
I know what you mean! I've kicked myself again & again for not doing more-- more letters to editors, more opinion & news links on a wider variety of boards, more preaching my viewpoints & insights... yet I wonder if it would have helped in the face of so much vote fraud, and such a sycophantic media.
Without the complicity & collusion of the news & entertainment media, Klink would never have had a prayer. Any one of the scandals plaguing him would have been hounded to death if they'd belonged to a Republican administration.
The only good to come of this mess has been the rise of alternative media, and a slippage of the traditional press. Well-deserved, IMHO.
The first lies I can recall coming from the mainstream media were over the Tet offensive in 1968, and it's gotten steadily worse ever since.
Well, I should amend that-- they did a lot of covering & covering up during Kennedy, the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban Missile crisis, the early years of LBJ-- but the public was slow catching on-- now it is faster, thank God!
"in-crowd at high school"
You got it! And ... I didn't fare well in high school either - too much an individual - born to be a repub I guess - thank goodness my dad was a repub. Never went along with the crowd - long hair was in (I cut mine); my mother always told me the same thing whenever I said, "but everybody's doing it" - "well, you're not everybody - you are you and you don't have to do what everybody else does". How my mom became a liberal I will never know.
"Aldrich"
No, I don't think that's a good choice - too much personal knowledge - it would taint any investigation.
Interesting. I don't think I have ever spent that much time observing her. Of course, I would have never noticed what you have observed, only a trained eye as you appear to have would have noticed. I am sure ole' hellary has never dared to have any type of therapy at all, she thinks all is normal with her.
One last thing, I think she is a real man hater.
I look forward to a flood of tell-all books from former clinton underlings who found themselves betrayed after years of faithfully swallowing abuse from the low-class gangsters of the last 8 years.
Note the herpes sore on her lip.
And Mrs. Clinton got really angry," said Myers. "She attacked George, which everyone knew was coming, which is why I guess nobody was willing to ride in there to the rescue. ... Here were 12 people in the room who all basically agreed and only one of them was willing to stand up and tell her what she had asked. And that took a lot of courage."
No. What it means is that most liberals are spineless, unprincipled weasels.
Why is this s**t only coming out now? I'm sure some New Yorkers would have liked to know that they were electing a short-tempered witch to the Senate. But, then again, New Yorkers are a pretty stupid bunch.
Previous accounts of Clinton's notorious temper were generally dismissed by mainstream reporters as the grumblings of disgruntled former employees.
Bulls**t!! The press didn't want to believe it was true. Everyone but the elite press knew it was true. More often than not, the windbags blamed it on the VRWC. I'm sure this revelation is only the tip of the iceberg. Hopefully America will soon discover what the media has been hiding from them for the last eight years. My prayer is that there will be hell to pay for the media abdicating their responsibility.
both clintons have enjoyed a relationship with the media that allows their public persona to be nice, but hides their real personalities.
so what's new?
did po' george vote against missus clinton in ny? probably not.
I have to have some sympathy for Dee-Dee. Politics aside, she seems like basically a nice person who went to Washington with a sense of idealism, only to have it crushed by the gangsters known as the Clintons and friends. Like any mob informant, she's probably been too scared to detail what's happened, until she's reasonable sure she's out of harm's way.
Looked at another way, the world didn't learn the extent of Stalin's brutality until after Stalin was dead.
Damn! How much plastic surgery do you think she has had??? This was one homely girl!
It remains to be seen how much difference these character revelations will make.
After making an obnoxious fool of himself in the impeachment debates, Chuckie Schumer got elected to the Senate.
After drowning his girlfriend and walking away, Teddy Kennedy keeps getting reelected to the Senate.
After much publicity about his aid running a male prostitution ring out of his office, Barney Frank was re-elected to the Senate.
After revealing himself to be a lying, draft-dodging, womanizing scoundrel, Bill clinton got re-elected to the presidency.
And on, and on. The only way to explain these dismal facts is that a lot of voters have a different idea about the kind of politicians who qualify for public office than we do.
Thanks dennisw,have a thumbed,battered paperback,thrown on a big pile years ago at a department store. Pleased the brief description really says it.(On book description) Might start a few devotees off on this subject.Just read your reply 80.
I don't think the hand holding had a thing to do with reassurance....I think it is a subtle movement of Hillary to take control and intimidate someone. Much like Algore's handshake that pushes a person off balance or backwards. These people are masters of intimidation and control.
I hope so but I'm not optimistic. I recall a few early observors opining about how the "tough New York Press" would put hilLIARy on the grill. She just didn't play the game, and got away with it. They were about as tough as jello. As for the Senate, remember when she went up to the Hill and spouted off a bunch of healthcare babble that sounded good, and the stupid senators fell all over themselves complimenting her. This was where she got the title "Smartest woman in the World" that Rush loves so much. No, after that, and the impeachment surrender, the Senate has got a lot to prove before I have any confidence they'll stand up to her BS.
FOLKS: Think about this!!
This is NOT about Hillary - this is about Bill. This is the beginning of a massive PR campaign to reinvent Slick! All his flacks are out there preparing us for the upcoming D - I - V - O - R - C - E (as was sung by Tammy Wynette).
Dee Dee is a flack for Slick - and all this is the background for his splitting with Hillary. The purpose is to create sympathy with the sheeple for Slick. "You can't blame the poor guy for fooling around - considering what he had at home waiting for him...." etc. etc.
OLD JOKE:
Q:What does Bill say to Hillary after sex?
A:"Ah'll be home in 20 minutes, darlin'!"
Bubba wasn't exactly a prize catch either. As a sidenote look at incredibly red nose and cheeks of the future IMPOTUS. Looks like Hillary settled for the best she could get at the time. And so did Bubba.
Hmmmm .... Thanks for the heads up!
Ted Copple was busy denying Mr. Aldredge any room to speak during a town meeting style forum because it was old news. So much for God huh Rush?
All very good points, fabled orator of Rome, but Bawney was still in the House last time I checked. The senators from Massacommiechusetts are John married-to-a-ketchup-fortune Kerrey and Teddy left-a-girl-suffocating-in-a-submerged-car-while-he-phoned-his-lawyer Kennedy.
Can't disagree with anything else you say though.
Previous accounts of Clinton's notorious temper were generally dismissed by mainstream reporters as the grumblings of disgruntled former employees.
The media is pathetic. But that's not exactly breaking news.
ABCNews Nightline interviews with Clintigula's enforcers
Definitely bookmark material for late night reading. It will save you yards of bookshelf space. Who was it who said they would need a new room to house all of the Clinton tell-all's? This will also save us mucho dinero. Who wants to give publishers money when it is already engraved in our hearts and minds!
The number of times that Dee Dee says - we didn't see it coming, or we didn't know it would be such a big problem is very revealing. These dopeheads were so far removed from how the world works and how a sober, hard working America thinks that they deserve to be laughed at and remain jobless.
This is an instant reference list. If any of these people appear in front of your desk asking for a job, tell them they have bad references.
Now, them's Delphic words if I ever heard any...
Care to 'splain?
Another Clinton biographer, Gail Sheehy -- who has spent hours with the first lady since the 1992 campaign -- wrote that Clinton seemed to be "in a perpetual state of suspended anger."
The stuff of which mass murderers and demociders are made. To paraphrase Horowitz, Hillary is an idolater in the same church as Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot. This creature is an enemy of human freedom and a totalist monster.
"Now, them's Delphic words if I ever heard any..."
No more so than the Delphic words in the first part of the ancient Chinese curse!
"May you live in interesting times and come to the attention of powerful people"
I take it to mean things like "Arkincide" all the way down to a well connected political, environmental, civil rights or labor activist dropping a line on a corporate, political or even small business leader, like: "Are we gonna have trouble with you?"
It can even get down to the same words spoken by a gangster to anyone they're trying to sell "protection" to!
Even lower than that... how 'bout any appointed bureaucrat speaking to any citizen regarding any imposing government regulation?
Did I 'splain it well enuf for ya? Or am I gonna have trouble witcha? What part of "obvious" don'tcha unnerstand about the Delphi System, grasshopper?:-)
Ref your comment: <<"Vincent Foster looked like he might have been "a real man". But he is dead. Why? ........... g">>
Anyone who has seen the movie, "The Wind and the Lion", knows why Vince Foster had to die. Once one of the resisters was "suicided", the others knew what fate awaited any other non-believers.
Meanwhile, while people on this thread are saying what courage George Stephanopolis displayed, they are obviously forgetting about how he lied on ABC and NBC about Gary Aldrich in order to discredit Aldrich's book which told the true story of the "goings on" at the Clinton White House.
RamS ([8 ^ )
Don`t fall for this garbage. Dee Dee and Staphedropilis are trying to resurrect their own failing careers. Separating themselves from the Clintons only helps themselves and does no harm whatsoever to Hill and Bill. Have you seen this story in the press anywhere?? Anybody who is connected with this group should be ignored for their lifetimes. Dee Dee will be bashing Bush if she ever gets airtime so keep your eye on the ball. The war for Ashcroft is all that matters now and will tell everything about GW`s spine vs PravdABC!
Pray for GW!
This is "News"?
At least you didn't put it under "Breaking News."
Dan
8^P
It really says something about the caliber of the Clinton White House staff when George Stephanopoulous turns out to be the courageous one. Good point...and also when Dee Dee Myers turns out to be the articulate one. She never could manage to speak an entire sentance when she was press secretary.
Well, George Will was busy cutting him to shreds on This Week.
Oh that hurt. I remember now. Poor George, he was just misled. How sad, How sad - that we ate our own.
Okay, Okay, BOSS!!!
Whatever you say!
You ain't never gettin' no trouble from Rocco!!! No sir! Never!
I remember hearing from folks when she started her "listening tour" that "the Press will have to confront her now! She's running in New York and they're tough on _everyone_! Nobody gets a free pass from that bunch!" I hope that the press finally recognizes that she's in the big leagues move up to at least fast-pitch softball. But I'm not holding my breath...
"I jes' pass the envelopes thasall" bump
Merry Christmas 6 months late, mombonn! How did I miss this?????
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