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Scott McConnell: "Unfit to Print"

News/Current Events Editorial Editorial Keywords: WICHITA
Source: New York Press
Published: January 9, 2000 Author: Scott McConnell
Posted on 01/10/2001 01:19:16 PST by A. F. Decentralist

The news reached me over New Year’s weekend. A horrible murder took place in Wichita, KS, 10 days before Christmas. It had received virtually no coverage beyond the local news.

The victims–three men and two women, white and in their 20s–were gathered in a home in a middle-class neighborhood. Two were teachers; two were engaged; one intended to become a priest. At 11 in the evening, two black men, Reginald Carr, recently released from prison, and his younger brother Jonathan, allegedly forced their way into the house, abducted the five at gunpoint, drove them around in two cars, forcing them to withdraw money from ATMs. Then they took the victims to a soccer field and forced them to kneel in the snow. They undressed the women, and raped one or perhaps both of them. Then they shot all five execution-style in the head. Four died, but one woman lived. Bleeding from her wound, she ran naked through the snow for a mile, miraculously reaching a house where she got help. The suspects were arrested the next day.

Wichita is shaken and mourning. A thousand people turned out for the funeral of one victim, Jason Befort. Rev. James Dieker, celebrant at the funeral Mass, told those gathered to look not for vengeance, but to the wisdom of Jesus on the cross: "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what to do."

Assuming that the criminal justice system will do its duty, those words may be the right ones. Yet in the current national context–with a divisive confirmation hearing looming for John Ashcroft and leading Democrats littering the airwaves with incendiary charges about the racist Republican heartland–some questions about the (non)reporting of the murder need airing as well.

If Michael McDermott’s shooting of seven in their Wakefield, MA, office on the day after Christmas deserves front-page treatment, or if James Byrd being dragged to his death by three white attackers should become a symbol of national shame, why don’t Americans know about Wichita?

They don’t because the victims were white, the suspects black. National news editors prefer a different script. Despite the raw drama of the story–the killers might still be at large were it not for the heroic effort of a woman raped, shot and left for dead in the snow–it doesn’t conform. What does fit are stories like the Byrd murder: since he was hideously dragged to death by three white men in 1998 The New York Times alone has made references to his killing in 102 separate stories, most published before the NAACP spent millions on a national campaign to boost black voter turnout by linking George W. Bush to the crime.

Occasionally facts are invented to fit the script. Several years ago, America’s evening news viewers were inundated for months with stories about an epidemic of burnings of black churches–carried out, it was charged, by racist whites. A federal investigation eventually concluded there was no racist conspiracy behind the church fires, indeed no epidemic of arson at all: just a normal rate of fires, some in white churches, some in black, some set in insurance scams, some as pranks, some because the arsonist wanted to become a hero by reporting a fire he had himself set.

But a few civil rights and anti-hate "watchdog" groups hyped stories of the black-church arson epidemic, probably for their own fundraising purposes, and the press lapped it up.

If asked, many editors would claim that one sort of crime (a racially motivated killing like James Byrd’s) deserves substantial coverage because it is a "hate crime," while the murder of four Wichita young people is not. The distinction is both false and pernicious. First, though no bias crime investigation is under way in Wichita, there is no reason whatever to think that a murder involving so much gratuitous and symbolic humiliation of the victims (forcing one to watch the rape of his fiancee in his last moments) is not motivated by "hate." Indeed, what might a thorough hate crime investigation turn up? Could the suspects have been stirred to anger against whites, for instance, by Jesse Jackson’s overheated charges that vicious racism was at work in the Florida election?

The hate-crime rubric itself is a blueprint for corrosive double standards. In law, it requires classifying crimes purportedly motivated by certain kinds of "bias" as more grave and deserving of serious punishment than others. The dual standard at once weakens a force that could unite Americans of all races and cultures (horror at crime) and threatens to transform the criminal justice system into an arena for exacerbating the country’s fault lines of race and ethnicity.

I suspect some promoting the dual standard feel virtuous and progressive–that they are advancing the multiculturalist cause by hyping news of crime of one sort and suppressing another. Some might see whites, and particularly the sort of straight, normal heartland Middle American types, as obstacles to desired social change and not deserving of very much sympathy. Others simply adapt to prevailing newsroom expectations, internalizing the double standards. Either way it’s a shameful spectacle, which does no honor to American journalism.


1 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:19:16 PST by A. F. Decentralist (AFDecentralist@excite.com)
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To: Godebert, Antiwar Republican, sinkspur, redneck/hippy, annalex, medusa, Northlander, Either/Or, oyez

BUMP

2 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:20:11 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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3 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:20:50 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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4 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:22:02 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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BUMP

5 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:23:01 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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To: A. F. Decentralist

At it again? Now all the world can see why McConnel was dumped by the Post. His is not a Potemkin view from the balcony of his hacienda of his gated community mansion like so many others in what is called a "conservative movement."

6 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:24:33 PST by junta
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To: smoked, Iscool, sheltonmac, Highlander, ChiMark, RightOnline, Restorer, Willie Green, fod, Jennifer

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7 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:24:50 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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BUMP

8 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:26:28 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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To: Confederate Keyester, Mortimer Snavely, meyerca, Webmaster@LWN, scouse, young turk, lowbridge

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9 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:27:26 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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10 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:29:55 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Thanks for the post. The blackout is obvious- I'd heard nothing about this, even though I usually search the wire services daily...

11 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:33:24 PST by Lion's Cub
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Sounds like something out of S. Africa. Horrible!

12 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:33:39 PST by oceanperch
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To: A. F. Decentralist

In the "America" of today Caucasians are the enemy.  More specifically white males. Even more specifically Conservative white males.

You might be the majority by a wide margin but you have no voice in how this country should be run.  At least that is what the socialists want you to think. Do you believe them?

13 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:42:00 PST by sinclair
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To: A. F. Decentralist

"Forgive them, Father, for they know not what to do."

I would correct the author with: "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do."

Either way, the statement is true. We've certainly made/allowed the mess we are in now. Correcting a problem is always more difficult than doing it right the first time. We have to do it...the road is long, but it can be done. Pester the media to report news in an unbiased and inclusive fashion. All news must be reported, even the most uncomfortable news...even crimes by Blacks against Whites. Keep at it, folks...keep pushing until the media gives. It will eventually, remember the "bottom line" is $$$, and whomever is watched the most, listen to the most, read the most will get the advertising dollars.

We learned with Florida how to make ourselves heard. Don't stop petitioning or writing letters. Outrage is terrific, but it must be translated to action for meaning.

14 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:42:16 PST by LeeMcCoy
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Thank you for the post. Once again FreeRepublic is where I go to get most of my news. I was thinking of changing my screen name after W got sworn in. But since I see we will always be fighting the liberal (criminal) press, I will continue to feel like a Hostage in my own country.

15 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:44:18 PST by AngryHostage
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To: oceanperch

btt

16 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:46:19 PST by everclear
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To: A. F. Decentralist

I grew up as a white minority. The best move I ever made was to the Oregon Coast. I refused to raise my son in a hostile enviroment. In America we still have a choice of what community to live in. If anyone is familiar with Pittsburg California (Camp Stoneman to old military men) they know exactly what I mean.

17 Posted on 01/10/2001 01:57:46 PST by oceanperch
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To: A. F. Decentralist

, Jason Befort. Rev. James Dieker, celebrant at the funeral Mass, told those gathered to look not for vengeance, but to the wisdom of Jesus on the cross: "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what to do."

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This crap is why I am not, and never will be, a Christian. This isn't wisdom. It's preaching self-inflicted masochism that makes compliant slaves and victims of people. Killing the sonsofbitches in a celebration of freeing yourself from meek victimhood is my way. I make no apologies to anybody, including God, for it.

18 Posted on 01/10/2001 02:04:52 PST by RLK
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To: A. F. Decentralist

This is one more story revealing the void of principles/morals in the democrat party. It's shocking what the democrat party has become.

19 Posted on 01/10/2001 02:28:47 PST by DoughtyOne
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To: A. F. Decentralist

A federal investigation eventually concluded there...no epidemic of arson at all: just a normal rate of fires

Why did it take a federal investigation to discover this? At the time these church fires were being touted as an epidemic, I did a web search of church fire stories and concluded that there was no epidemic and that most of the church fires reported had been white churches. The whole thing was conjured up by Clinton to distract attention from the Filegate story, which was just coming to light at that time (June 1996.)

20 Posted on 01/10/2001 02:34:12 PST by giotto
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Good post....This sure seems like a hate crime to me. 

Imagine the opposite of two white gunmen invading a home...hauling the 5 Black occupants to a deserted field and then raping and killing them execution style. The hue and cry would be deafening.

What a fearful nation we live in that cannot discuss this awful crime due to the minority perpetrators.

21 Posted on 01/10/2001 02:42:08 PST by dennisw
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To: AngryHostage

after W got sworn in. But since I see we will always be fighting the liberal (criminal) press,

Exactly-- I've been in the RKBA fight ( later expanded to the entire Bill of Rights... ) since 1967-- it never lets up!

22 Posted on 01/10/2001 02:53:18 PST by backhoe
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To: giotto

National Council of Churches and others used it as an effective fundraising tool as well. A fund to rebuild black churches was set up, cash poured in, but the money was not used for that purpose. Quite a scandal, if I recall. I believe that an audit is ongoing. Perhaps someone more adept at computer searches that I could find something on that. It was little reported, too.

I like Scott McConnel. He often posts on VDARE.

See also American Renaissance's story on this: www.amren.com

Walter Yannis

23 Posted on 01/10/2001 02:58:10 PST by Walter Yannis
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To: A. F. Decentralist

BUMP - Prayers for the victims, survivor, family and friends and outrage for the double standard used by the media to mislead and coverup in order to promote their leftist agenda.

24 Posted on 01/10/2001 02:59:22 PST by Angelwood
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Just another Negro-on-White atrocity down the Regime's Memory Hole...had the races been reversed, the System Media--Lib & Neo-Con--would be screeching "HATECRIME" in every headline and on every broadcast for a week...

Jared Taylor's pivotal study, "The Color of Crime" is worth a closer look.

25 Posted on 01/10/2001 03:06:40 PST by Ticonderoga
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To: RLK

I will keep you in my prayers my fellow Freeper.

26 Posted on 01/10/2001 03:11:14 PST by oceanperch
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To: A. F. Decentralist

You may want to update your "bump" list--many of your addressees were scorched off the forum in the last purge.

27 Posted on 01/10/2001 03:12:29 PST by Ticonderoga
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To: oceanperch

I will keep you in my prayers my fellow Freeper.

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Pray my eyes will regain sharpness and my hands will not shake so that I can control the sighting of my pistol.

28 Posted on 01/10/2001 03:20:30 PST by RLK
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To: backhoe

"...Exactly-- I've been in the RKBA fight ( later expanded to the entire Bill of Rights... ) since 1967-- it never lets up! ..."
OK, help-out poor error's memory this morning.
What's RKBA and what's the significance of 1967?
thanks

29 Posted on 01/10/2001 03:50:08 PST by error99
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To: Walter Yannis

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30 Posted on 01/10/2001 04:00:58 PST by Walter Yannis
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To: Ticonderoga

Thanks for mentioning Jared Taylor's 'The Color of Crime." You can get this book at www.amren.com

Walter Yannis

31 Posted on 01/10/2001 04:03:51 PST by Walter Yannis
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To: RLK

Agree on the solution even though I'm a Christian. But not only should these particular fiends be executed, all the hate-spewing "journalists" and "leaders" who have conned the country into thinking that Whites are indiscriminately killing "minorities" should be prosecuted. I would love to see Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etal stand trial for false accusations and hate-spreading. He and many other "minority" hacks are guilty of inciting young Blacks to hate Whites and other non-Blacks. We need a conservative Morris Dees. Rev. Jesse Peterson might do.

32 Posted on 01/10/2001 04:06:58 PST by driftless
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To: RLK

I think that the priest's quotation of words of Jesus (uttered as He hung on the cross) are misplaced, at least if they mean that society should go soft on these filthy animals. SS. Peter and Paul make it abundantly clear that the civil authorities are authorized by God Himself to reward the just and punish the wicked.

In my layman's opinion, the forgiveness Jesus had in mind was spiritual; i.e. don't let this prevent their salvation. But note that the good thief says on the cross next to Jesus that he 'deserved' his punishment (crucifixtion!), and Jesus does not contradict him.

Now, I wouldn't crucify these young animals. Not because they don't deserve it, but rather because we've come to realize that the State should not cross certain bright lines, like never resorting to cruel punishments and torture.

If the priest meant by this exhortation that the community should not be outraged and should not seek maximum punishment under law of these alleged criminals, then he did us all - especially the Church - a terrible disfavor. Such would mock God - as if God would not want to see wrongdoers punished.

Walter Yannis

33 Posted on 01/10/2001 04:49:58 PST by Walter Yannis
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Thank you for this post. May God judge them according to his will, and may we do all within our power to send them speedily to that judgment.

Don't count on the central government to rank this as a hate crime. More than likely, the Black Congressional Caucus will brand these hateful Negro murderers as victims of an uncaring society; devote a one hour telethon to raise a defense fund for the plight of Negro criminals - urging European-Americans to make contributions to the United Negro College Fund (as opposed to a 'United Caucasian College Fund'?).

Alas, I am remiss in acknowledging the 'advantage' white children have in government schools.

If you don't believe me ask affirmative action poster boy, and promoter of the less than bright 'General' Collin Powell. He'll tell you how many better students he bumped on his way to a college degree, as well as the number of superior officers that were pushed aside to make possible his rise in the military.

My apologies. I am off subject now, aren't I....or is this thread merely one shovel full of a the pile of dung polluting American society?

34 Posted on 01/10/2001 05:15:59 PST by Robert Drobot
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Double standard? You bet! Those men knew exactly what they were doing, with afore thought and malice. I don't care what color, nationality, or what, all crimes are done through hate...

35 Posted on 01/10/2001 05:33:43 PST by dixie sass
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To: Robert Drobot

Although my overall view of General Powell is more favorable than unfavorable, it was extremely distressing to hear him voice his support of A-action. That is an issue that can be considered a defining point to be a conservative. Ergo: Powell is NOT A CONSERVATIVE! That means he must be watched constantly and is simply unfit to be a Republican nominee for President. If he doesn't understand how pernicious Affirmative Action is, then he doesn't understand conservatism. Why isn't Ward Connerly or others like him promoted by the Republican elites?

36 Posted on 01/10/2001 05:35:57 PST by driftless
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To: A. F. Decentralist

"I suspect some promoting the dual standard feel virtuous and progressive–that they are advancing the multiculturalist cause by hyping news of crime of one sort and suppressing another. Some might see whites, and particularly the sort of straight, normal heartland Middle American types, as obstacles to desired social change and not deserving of very much sympathy. Others simply adapt to prevailing newsroom expectations, internalizing the double standards. Either way it’s a shameful spectacle, which does no honor to American journalism."

Crime is crime no matter who commits it. I suppose that Mr. McConnell would prefer that we do the A-Z Encyclopedia of crime committed everyday across this Country in all newspapers, denoting the assailant and victims race. That will solve things all right! How about a novel approach, forget the race, focus on the act itself. The race of the story is just what the media wants and thrives on. It appears that Mr. McConnell seems to be playing part of this game.

37 Posted on 01/10/2001 06:02:13 PST by Ironsoldier
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To: driftless

These guys are murdering racists hateful black supremacists. Plain and simple. Bring back public hanging.

38 Posted on 01/10/2001 06:16:14 PST by Robert Drobot
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To: sinclair

"In the "America" of today Caucasians are the enemy. More specifically white males. Even more specifically Conservative white males."

In my view the Democrat Party is a bigger threat to freedom in America than the Axis Powers of World War Two. The radical wing of the party, together with big media, or what I caa the Bolshevik media, seeks to establish a Marxist-fascist dictatorship in the United States. To achieve this fear must be instilled in white middle-class America; so, in the view of these revolutionaries, black crimes against whites are censored because whites might take defensive measures which would hinder the success of the revolution, while white crime against blacks are given maximum publicity because it provokes hatred and increases the likeihood of attacks against the intended target.

The problem is white middle-class Americans fail to realize they are the targets of intimination and, if necessary, extermination.

Regards,

39 Posted on 01/10/2001 07:10:05 PST by Zoroaster
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To: A. F. Decentralist

FYI, there was a previous thread on this story.

I would not be surprised to find that there is more to this story then meets the eye. Like the guy from the Washington Post said, "Follow the money"

Two of the people that were killed, worked for Koch Financial Services, a sister company of Koch Petroleum, who seems to have some role in California Energy Crisis. One of the two was an accountant for the company. How much of a role, I don't know, but I don't believe in coincidences.Here is a snippet from the news(date unknown):

FPL Group Inc., Juno Beach, Fla., and Entergy Corp., New Orleans, merge to form the largest electric utility in the U.S. The combined utility, which will be named at a later date, will have a total value of more than $27 billion. Also, through Entergy's pending venture with Koch Industries, Wichita, Kan., the new company will be one of the largest U.S. marketers of both electric power and natural gas. Corporate headquarters will be located in Juno Beach and its Utility Group headquarters in New Orleans. Each of the company's six utilities will continue to maintain its headquarters at its present location.

40 Posted on 01/10/2001 07:35:57 PST by MrMuse
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To: Lion's Cub

Thanks for the post. The blackout is obvious- I'd heard nothing about this, even though I usually search the wire services daily...

You couldn't be more right about the blackout...that is the reason for FR...I copied and sent out to everyone on my email list as well as groups, and news stations and elected officials..... it must be up to us to keep it on top.

NOT let the liberals bury these stories, like the two child killers in NY, etc, etc, etc.

41 Posted on 01/10/2001 07:41:47 PST by sgw587
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To: MrMuse

Thanks for that information. Most interesting, indeed. I suspect you are right, and this explains part of the news "blackout"...

42 Posted on 01/10/2001 08:02:54 PST by Lion's Cub
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To: RLK

Let me say, as a Christian, I know right where you are coming from.

Uttering Christ's prayer for this situation is incredibly inapropriate, possibly blasphemous. What these people want is not vengeance, but justice.

I too am sick and tired of the self-righteous pigs who run around saying things like this. They are Pharisees who want nothing more than to impress others with their own holiness. Defense - of home, family, and country - is a duty and moral obligation. Rounding up and destroying dangerous animals, even two legged ones, is an integral part of that defense.

To shirk that duty is cowardice, and cowards belong in Hell. And you can read that in the bible.

43 Posted on 01/10/2001 08:05:09 PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Lion's Cub

Alas, Lion's Cub. More wheels within wheels. I am beginning to believe that the entire world is one huge conspiracy if we can just make all the wheels fit. This is pathetic. I sent it to Bill O'Reilly at Fox. He has more guts than any 10 *journalists* I know. If there is anything that IS anything in this story he will find it. At the very least, he will ask the same questions we now ask. Why hasn't ANYONE heard this???????????

44 Posted on 01/10/2001 08:12:36 PST by FrostFire
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To: oceanperch

I am only vaguely familiar wih Pittsburg, having lived in the Northeast Bay area 15 years ago. I thought Pittsburg was a working class Italian city, not some little North Richmond. I assume its changed somewhat, ne c'est pa?

45 Posted on 01/10/2001 08:43:27 PST by Okiereddust
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To: A. F. Decentralist

that's why i call em MAINSLIME media!

46 Posted on 01/10/2001 09:07:54 PST by stand watie
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To: A. F. Decentralist

that's why i call em MAINSLIME media!

47 Posted on 01/10/2001 09:08:19 PST by stand watie
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To: A. F. Decentralist, MrMuse

I don't know for sure about the Koch conspiracy angle, but that might be one more reason the story was squelched nationwide. Wichita papers (Eagle/Beacon) are owned by Knight-Ridder, so you can be sure whatever decisions that were made about non-publication of this story at the National level at least one was made by Knight-Ridder.

48 Posted on 01/10/2001 09:37:23 PST by Okiereddust
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To: A. F. Decentralist, stand watie

"Presstitutes".

The United States has the best-paid propaganda system in the entire world.

You can live a life of real ease promoting (by omission, oddly enough) the P.C.-approved styles of racism.

Who's watching the watchers?

Thank YOU, Mr. McConnell!!

49 Posted on 01/10/2001 09:55:51 PST by Mercuria
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To: Okiereddust

The Italian working class once now the kids are Hells Angels Richmond Chapter, on the other end of town are generational welfare blacks. Middle Class whites moved into Pitts. in the early 70's. The housing was affordable yet the property value never increased due to all the rif raf. I left a decade ago. In school the white minority stuck together in groups to prevent attacks.

50 Posted on 01/10/2001 10:34:05 PST by oceanperch
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To: Ticonderoga, A. F. Decentralist

If asked, many editors would claim that one sort of crime (a racially motivated killing like James Byrd’s) deserves substantial coverage because it is a "hate crime," while the murder of four Wichita young people is not.

Just another Negro-on-White atrocity down the Regime's Memory Hole...had the races been reversed, the System Media--Lib & Neo-Con--would be screeching "HATECRIME" in every headline and on every broadcast for a week...

It's remarkable how common a notion it is that such a crime--the blackmen stealing, raping, and murdering--is not a hate crime. And I believe it's true that most people at first glance would not consider it a hate crime. What could this mean?

If a white man did this to a similar group of blacks, on the other hand, most might consider it a hate crime. Why? Well, of course, because a white man committing such a crime would be a rare event. It would be an oddity. It would be newsworthy.

However, a black man committing such a crime isn't such a rarity. People need look for no other explanation because they figure that this is just what one expects from a certain class of black men. That is why no one suspects it's a hate crime. This is why it isn't news worthy---in the same way that the sun rising isn't news worthy.

In a strange way, this is probably the worst indictment of the black community: that they are congenitally criminal and wholly incapable of a "higher" order crime such as hate crime---that what is a "hate" crime for a white man is merely considered garden variety for the black.

51 Posted on 01/10/2001 11:16:49 PST by medusa
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To: medusa

You may be right. And when America passes the demographic tipping-point (unless current trends are halted and reversed), will Whites be able to expect special protection as minority members?

52 Posted on 01/10/2001 11:29:42 PST by Ticonderoga
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To: RLK

This crap is why I am not, and never will be, a Christian. This isn't wisdom. It's preaching self-inflicted masochism that makes compliant slaves and victims of people. Killing the sonsofbitches in a celebration of freeing yourself from meek victimhood is my way. I make no apologies to anybody, including God, for it.

Right you are, sir. Organized religion invariably makes a mockery of what its founders taught. Christianity is, for the most part, no different in that regard.

53 Posted on 01/10/2001 13:07:26 PST by Noumenon
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To: Mercuria,hollywood

MTV is about to start an all day and night "hate crime victim's marathon". (All PC victims, I am sure.) One aspect will be an 800 number and website, I suggest we freep them for not mentioning these white victims, or Jesse Durkheising.

54 Posted on 01/10/2001 13:18:35 PST by Travis McGee
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To: Nora, don-o, CounterCounterCulture, Kirk&Burke, Dare To Be Free, KO5A, brat, Cyber Liberty, LSJohn

BUMP

55 Posted on 01/10/2001 15:19:02 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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To: Dixie Mom, LaBelleDameSansMerci, Mother of Eight, cva66snipe, firehat, space cadet, SouthernGal

BUMP

56 Posted on 01/10/2001 15:19:53 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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To: Alamo-Girl, firebrand, wideawake, shield, AMERIKA, MOMinTN, SamAdams76, x, Patriotic Teen

BUMP

57 Posted on 01/10/2001 15:21:44 PST by A. F. Decentralist
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To: A. F. Decentralist,jahzzz

bttt

58 Posted on 01/10/2001 15:51:51 PST by Travis McGee
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To: oceanperch, RLK

I will keep you in my prayers my fellow Freeper.

Sorry, while I unlike RLK AM a Christian, I agree with his method. This stupid preacher is totally misrepresenting Christ. He asked God to forgive the romans that crucified him because they had no idea of what they were doing to the son of God. Christ and God (contrary to what many of the broke-dick "lambs" in this forum think)do not expect us to roll over in the face of evil.

When Christ spoke of "turning the other cheek", he was refering to people who were enemies of the church or evangelism, NOT every cum-bag who chooses to violate you or your loved ones.

Personally, (and I'm not referring to you ocean) I'm getting sick of hearing from wimpy, useless Christians who think they can "pray" their way through life. There's a time for that.... for sure, but there's also a time to send evil to back hell where it belongs.

If I heard this idiot preacher say such nonsense after I lost my family to these POS animals, I'd be slapping his demented head up and down the isles of church.

59 Posted on 01/10/2001 15:57:32 PST by AAABEST
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To: Noumenon

I attempt, with considerable effort, not to be anti-religion. However, I am beyond the point of exasperation. Too many religions now attempt to inculcate guilt where there should be little or none. At the same time they refuse to address guilt in areas where it should be considerable. Religion has become the psychological immobilization and victimization of those hapless enough to believe in it. I am finding it difficult to be civil to men of the cloth.

60 Posted on 01/10/2001 16:16:50 PST by RLK
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To: A. F. Decentralist

. Some might see whites, and particularly the sort of straight, normal
heartland Middle American types, as obstacles to desired social
change and not deserving of very much sympathy.

  Others might see it as necessary to mute the outraged
  response that might otherwise accompany  news that
  that there is a racial war in America.

61 Posted on 01/10/2001 16:26:34 PST by gcruse
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To: sinclair

 Even more specifically Conservative
white males.

Do you really think burglars, rapists,
murderers, and robbers check the
political leanings of their intended victims
before committing crimes against them?

62 Posted on 01/10/2001 16:30:22 PST by gcruse
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Thanks for the heads up!

63 Posted on 01/10/2001 16:43:02 PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: driftless

Why isn't Ward Connerly or others like him promoted by the Republican elites?

Because the so-called "Republican elites" are RINOs! They, just like the commi-demos, are interested in nothing but their own power-grabbing elitist perch.

64 Posted on 01/10/2001 17:17:06 PST by Mean Maryjean
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To: LeeMcCoy


"Keep at it, folks...keep pushing until the media gives. It will eventually, remember the "bottom line" is $$$, and whomever is watched the most, listen to the most, read the most will get the advertising dollars. "

Dream on! I've heard this said for the past 30 years.

Since when do marxist propaganda tools have to concern themselves with "bottom line"?

65 Posted on 01/10/2001 17:43:38 PST by SuperLuminal
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To: RLK

A lot of Christians tend to forget that the Bible is full of stories of people taking up arms. Jesus Himself lost His temper on many occasions, including taking a bullwhip to moneychangers in the Temple. Peter and Paul had a theological dispute about a point of doctrine, and, as the King James puts it, "the dissension between them was sharp." This is a 17th century way of saying that they had a knock-down drag out fight.

All too many believers substitute enthusiasm and euphoria for thinking. There are many others, as I'm sure you're aware, who don't.

66 Posted on 01/10/2001 17:52:26 PST by Mortimer Snavely
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To: RLK

"I am finding it difficult to be civil to men of the cloth."

I resemble that remark.

67 Posted on 01/10/2001 17:58:49 PST by Mortimer Snavely
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To: DoughtyOne

This is one more story revealing the void of principles/morals in the democrat party.

This story has absolutely nothing to do with the democrats at all. It has to do with newspaper and television editors blacking out the crimes that do not make sensational headlines.

It has to to less with liberalism than it has to do with totally lazy journalists who will simply write what pops into their head and claim it as fact rather than find out what the truth is.

68 Posted on 01/10/2001 21:03:52 PST by Demidog
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To: A. F. Decentralist

BUMP!

69 Posted on 01/10/2001 21:36:28 PST by DeSoto
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To: A. F. Decentralist

Down to 28 bytes per second functioning on alternate minutes.

Sixty-five and more years ago Blacks in some sections of the country lived in silent terror. On occasion they were lynched almost for sadistic amusement. They had no legal recourse because the courts were in collusion with terrorism against Blacks. The journalistic profession did not view terrorism against Blacks as a serious crime.

The situation is now more than reversed. Whites are now in the same position throughout many portions of the United States as Blacks were then. Whites are not lynched. They may be dragged out of their homes and shot, or killed on the street in greater numbers than occurred during the terrorizing of Blacks. The White population has been reduced to being terrorized and living in silent terror. They are immobilized. The leftist courts and legal systems offer little serious remedy. The prevailing liberal social order looks upon the situation with sadistic satisfaction. The journalistic "profession" is both a supportive product and a guiding element in that social order. Not only is there no acknowledgement that the condition exists, but to hint at its existence is to be accused of racism.

The mockery and intimidation of Whites by Blacks has become a sport which has long sense progressed into licensed violence. What is reported in this story is but a portion of it.

70 Posted on 01/10/2001 22:04:15 PST by RLK
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To: junta

How true. Hugh Hewitt and Dennis Prager come to mind in LA.

71 Posted on 01/10/2001 22:06:32 PST by Pelham
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To: Mortimer Snavely

See subsequent comment.

72 Posted on 01/10/2001 22:15:28 PST by RLK
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To: Demidog

This story has absolutely nothing to do with the democrats at all. It has to do with newspaper and television editors blacking out the crimes that do not make sensational headlines.

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Are you trying to tell me dragging people out of their homes and killing them for warped amusement wouldn't make sensational headlines?

73 Posted on 01/10/2001 22:19:58 PST by RLK
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To: dennisw

The incident you describe is so rare that that ALONE would be newsworthy i.e. a white pair involved in such sadist murder of a group of blacks.

74 Posted on 01/10/2001 22:21:14 PST by wmcold
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To: A. F. Decentralist

...One Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. - still a great idea!

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