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"I didn't have sex with that pardon..."

Crime/Corruption Extended News Editorial Keywords: PARDONGATE, CLINTON NYT PARDONGATE APOLOGIA, CLINTON INEPTNESS, USEFUL IDIOTS OF THE PRESS
Published: 2.20.01 Author: Mia T
Posted on 02/20/2001 08:10:33 PST by Mia T

"I didn't have sex with that pardon..."
 
by Mia T
2.20.01
 
Having bought lock, stock and barrel the clinton PR about clinton IQ, the pundit class routinely experiences massive cognitive dissonance whenever (either) clinton does something really dumb. To resolve the dissonance, the punditry either ascribes to a clinton's act of stupidity a complexity that would astound Machiavelli, or, alternatively, it shakes its collective head in disbelief, wondering how someone so smart could do something so stupid. And so it was yesterday with The New York Times clinton pardongate apologia.
 
On its face, the piece read like it was written by a developmentally arrested crook. While most called it thus, others, notably William Safire, tongue erratically in cheek, marveled at clinton's cleverness.
 
"'There was absolutely no quid pro quo.' With these words on this page yesterday, you shrewdly escalated the potential charge to bribery...you were smart to demand judgment on a hard-to-prove case of bribery, which usually requires that a conspirator sing."
 
Say what, Safire?? I can think of no one who isn't thinking "bribery"--in the Rich pardon, in the Hasidim pardon, heck, in all the pardons. Where do you suppose baby brother Roger got the idea to set up his pardons-for-sale shop anyway?
 
Sometimes a cigar is...just a cigar...
 
No. clinton wrote the stupid op-ed piece--the clintons do stupid things--for a much less convoluted reason. When you strip away the clinton "infrastructure" (clinton's own term as per Geraldo), what you have left are two rather stupid, shopworn, supercilious rubes.
   
The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains. The underlying theory of the of the Rich pardon defense, that the ex-wife of a jillionaire would use her Florsheim and/or relatively limited funds to grease the pockets of the clintons to get her ex pardoned, is simply not believable.
 
So rather than waiting for the other shoe to drop, clinton recycles his familiar refrain, ("I didn't have sex with that pardon..."), not understanding that that old saw was discounted long ago.
 
See:
 
Can the President Think?
 
THE MYTH OF HILLARY'S BRILLIANCE
 
Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy
 
OFF THE RECORD: AN OLD DOG NEEDS NEW TRICKS
 
The man is an artist: He's not just 'Slick Willie' anymore
 
Hey, what a party!
New Year's at the White House
 


 

 

 

clinton hunt-and-peck

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1 Posted on 02/20/2001 08:10:33 PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T

You caught me again.

2 Posted on 02/20/2001 08:18:23 PST by bmwcyle
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To: bmwcyle

clinton: "There isn't a shred of evidence..."

15. Mr. Grafeld told me, referring to Judicial Watch's allegations that Commerce Department trade mission seats were sold in exchange for campaign contributions, that "(Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel) Klayman is right on target" but that he believes that the trade mission issues were "only the tip of the iceberg -- that the really big money went towards Presidential access." Mr. Grafeld indicated to me that he believes that Ms. Moss was asking for political contributions in exchange for seats on Commerce Department trade missions, likely at the direction of Hillary Rodham Clinton, but that documents showing this illegal activity had "left the building." In fact, there were effectively no security procedures at the Commerce Department to ensure that sensitive and secret documents and/or any documents which might evidence criminal activity stayed in the building. The purported letters referenced by Mr. Grafeld and Nolanda Hill could easily have "left the building" absent sufficient procedures to secure them.

---from DECLARATION OF SONYA STEWART

WASHINGTON, Nov. 29 (UPI) -- President Clinton [upon the discovery of the body of Barbara Wise in the Commerce Department offices] briefly interrupted his Thanksgiving holiday weekend at Camp David Friday with a quick trip to the White House to gather data...and then returned to the mountaintop retreat.

The president, still suffering from a raspy voice, and ordered by his doctor to rest his vocal chords, carried a briefcase as he strolled to the waiting helicopter to return to Camp David. He wore a leather jacket and was followed by an aide carrying a huge box ...

Clinton reviewing inaugural plans, Helen Thomas, 29-NOV-1996

connect the dots, Helen...

3 Posted on 02/20/2001 08:37:58 PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T

connect the dots, Helen...

My name is not Helen. LOL

4 Posted on 02/20/2001 09:05:40 PST by connectthedots
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To: all

Feb. 20, 2001 / 27 Shevat, 5761
 
Dan K. Thomasson
 
How gullible does Clinton think we are?
 
http://www.jewishworldreview.com --
THERE is an old rule of thumb in ferreting out political corruption.
Follow the money.
 
That was true in the Teapot Dome scandals of the
1920s and in the Bobby Baker Senate scandals of the early 1960s. It was
true in the Watergate debacle a decade later and it is true in the
current matter of former fugitives Marc Rich and Pincus Green.
 
Following the greenbacks - some $1.45 million of them - leads even the
most naïve of us to the almost inescapable conclusion that Bill
Clinton's startling pardons of Rich and Green were predicated on money.
If it looks like a bribe and it smells like a bribe, chances are it is a
bribe. Even if one is inclined to be as generous as possible to the
ex-president, the appearance of impropriety here is enormous.
 
Now he has offered us his rationale for the pardons in an essay for the
New York Times. In typical Clinton fashion, it is full of spin and half
truths, avoidance and outright dissembling, including the implication
that he had a foreign policy motive.
 
Rich, it seems, actually spread a lot of his cash around for
"charitable" purposes over the years.
 
Rich had renounced his citizenship in 1983 rather than answer the
charges in court. But in the current high roller atmosphere of
politics, where big bucks drive everything, even that outrage can be
overcome if you show compassion to the right people.
 
Clinton categorically denies that his pardons for Rich and Green were a
quid pro quo for donations from Rich's ex-wife, Denise, to the
Democratic Party, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and to the Clinton
presidential library. He contended that three prominent Republican
lawyers approved of the pardon. All three, however, denied this the
moment the allegation appeared.
 
While Clinton could be expected to deny the obvious implication that
pardons were for sale in his administration, the former president's
disparagement of the country's criminal justice system is most
alarming. He made it clear that he felt that Rich and Green were
victims of overzealous government attorneys who should have filed civil,
rather than criminal, actions. Thus, it was all right apparently for
these extremely wealthy men to flee their country to avoid prosecution
because of an unfair process.
 
This is a disturbing position for a man who took a solemn oath to uphold
the rule of law as the nation's highest officer. It would have been
helpful if he had explained why Rich and Green chose to be fugitives
rather than face their day in court if the case for their innocence was
so strong.
 
The former president also failed to deal with allegations that Rich and
Green had ignored an embargo against doing business with Iran, which at
the time was holding Americans hostage and defying every international
rule of civilized behavior.
 
Meanwhile, Clinton's allies have begun to try to build backfires. They
plant stories that allege that all this furor about pardons and gifts of
furniture and office space and so forth is the result of a well
orchestrated scheme by George Bush and his minions.
 
At the same time, friends of Denise Rich are offering testimonials that
she wouldn't be a party to anything as ugly as trying to bribe the
president of the United States. She was just a "naive soul."
 
Please don't insult our intelligence. If that were the case, why then
did she refuse to testify before Congress, claiming her Fifth Amendment
privilege against self-incrimination? Why then is the federal
prosecutor who is determined to get to the bottom of this sorry mess
contemplating offering her immunity for her testimony?
 
Could it be that the hundreds of thousands of dollars she donated to
help finance the political activities of her White House friends
actually came from someone other than Mrs. Rich? Do we wonder who that
might have been?
 
Politicians and mobsters frequently use "cutouts" (to borrow and old spy
phrase) for diverting attention from the real source. The record of the
Clinton-Gore campaign funding scandals is replete with examples of this
kind of activity. Some might compare it to money laundering.
 
The former president has been headed for a comeuppance over this
behavior from the moment he began renting out the Lincoln bedroom to big
campaign contributors. But while the money trail makes it fairly clear
what happened here, nothing is likely to happen to Clinton. That may
not be so true for the other key players in this shameful matter.
 

5 Posted on 02/20/2001 09:08:01 PST by Mia T
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6 Posted on 02/20/2001 09:20:20 PST by Dick Bachert
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To: bmwcyle

02-14-01
CLINTON'S OWN STATEMENT "DENISE RICH IS A REPUBLICAN" PROVIDES ULTIMATE EVIDENCE OF CLINTON'S RICH-PARDON-BRIBERY SCHEME (and clinton's stupidity, BTW]

(Why else would a REPUBLICAN donate a fortune to Democrats?)

7 Posted on 02/20/2001 10:00:58 PST by Mia T
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That line about Denise Rich was one that was another treasure-trove for us word parsers: "As far as I know, the Rich's are Republicans!" As far as he knew? Geeesh! Note that he did NOT say that he thinks they really are Republicans, just that the possibility exists that he thought that perhaps they were. What a bunch of dopes he must think we are...

Hey, add this to your list of delightful phrases...I'd live to see what Mia does with it!

Nixon: "I am not a crook."

Clinton: "There is not a shred of evidence that I am a crook."

8 Posted on 02/20/2001 10:06:57 PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Mia T

"When you strip away the clinton "infrastructure" (clinton's own term as per Geraldo), what you have left are two rather stupid, shopworn, supercilious rubes".

I love that.

9 Posted on 02/20/2001 10:21:03 PST by fullchroma
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HE HAS TO WAIT TO GATHER THE FACTS! HE'S NEVER SURE WHAT LIES TO MAKE UP!

10 Posted on 02/20/2001 11:48:23 PST by KLT
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To: Mia T

Big ol' BUMPTTT!

11 Posted on 02/20/2001 12:47:49 PST by AnnaZ
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Can somebody post that David Brinkley election nite comment again? It seems appropriate to this thread ....

Of all the offenses these grifters have committed, the one which has so bugged me, each and every time, has been the way they treated everyone else as stupid and uncomprehending. And the thing which bugged me most after that, was being told these stupid people were "brilliant."

Whenever I have heard that in person, I have always asked for one -- just one -- witty thing either of them has ever said, or one trenchant insight, one act which demonstrated true cleverness (not criminal "cunning"). No one has ever been able to provide me with an example.

Ditto for the claim that the Adolescent Sociopath is "charming." Where oh where is there a shred of evidence for THAT claim?

Have their adulators EVER heard these people speak? They always and everywhere have sounded like two nitwits far far in over their heads. Has either one ever delievered anything approaching even an acceptable speech, from an intellectual or spiritual point of view? To the contrary, their incoherence was always evident in everything they said.

These are two not very bright people. That has been apparent since 1991. The secret of their "brilliance" has been their easy resort to fraudulence of every stripe, and a Soviet media unwilling and apparently intellectually incapable of exercising even marginal analytic ability in examining any of the myriad imbecilities uttered by these people.

12 Posted on 02/20/2001 16:27:59 PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

I think you mean this. ;)

Miss Hillary. . . strikes me as one of those innumerable people whose prose is so dull that they are reduced to using equally prosaic cusswords.

Paul Greenberg, The man is an artist: He's not just 'Slick Willie' anymore

Rumor has it William Jefferson Clinton himself is to recite Honest Abe's lines in this New Year's Eve pageant. Whoever writes these scripts has a natural talent for irony. For some irrepressible reason, one cannot help but think of that costume party in "The Manchurian Candidate,'' complete with Red Queen and Abe Lincoln in stovepipe hat and fake beard.

Hillary Clinton says it's a great opportunity to unite the nation. (The way she's united New York?) But the Clintons are never so polarizing as when they are intent on uniting us. How can that be? Maybe it's their perfectly fabricated authenticity. The Nineties have had much the same effect, stirring the same vague dissatisfactions -- and sparking sudden outbursts of temper. What was it that poor, embarrassed David Brinkley, thinking his mike was off, said after the president's victory speech in '96: "We all look forward with great pleasure to four years of wonderful, inspiring speeches, full of wit, poetry, music, love and affection, plus more goddam nonsense.''

Still not finished, Mr. Brinkley added that this president "has not a creative bone in his body. Therefore, he's a bore, and will always be a bore.'' Oh, dear. The commentator's unintentionally public thoughts were all the more embarrassing for being so widely shared by any Americans still sentient four years into the Age of Clinton. But it's one thing to notice such things, quite another to say them out loud. Why belabor the obvious?

Hey, what a party! New Year's at the White House

 

Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy

by Mia T

John Podhoretz recently asked, "Whence comes hillary clinton's reputation for brilliance?" For the answer, he intuitively, rather brilliantly in fact, looked to her anatomy and noted,"This isn't the first time she's shot herself in the foot."

The above anatomical analysis supports the Podhoretz thesis. Notwithstanding The Pod's erroneous conclusions concerning hillary clinton's heart and nerve, he basically has it right. Anatomy is destiny...

Ian Hunter recently observed that our leaders are shrinking. "From a Churchill (or, for that matter, a Margaret Thatcher) to a Tony Blair; from Eisenhower to Clinton; from Diefenbaker to Joe Clark; from Trudeau to Chretien -- we seem destined to be governed by pygmies."

The pols understand their anatomical limitations well; they attempt to mitigate them with veneer. And so we suffer mindless alpha-beta-beelzebubba grotesquerie. . .

 

and rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy.

With all the media genuflecting before the press-conference podium of bill clinton, it bears remarking yet again that the clinton intellect (an oxymoron even more jarring than AlGoreRhythm and meant to encompass the cognitive ability of both clintons) is remarkable only for its utter ordinariness, its lack of creative spark, its lack of analytic precision, its lack of depth.

The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.

Politicos and reporters are not rocket scientists . . .

Professions tend to be self-selected, intellectually homogeneous subgroups of Homo sapiens. Great intellects (especially these days) do not generally gravitate towards careers in the media or politics. Mediocre, power-obsessed types with poor self-images do.

Thus, clinton mediocrity goes undetected primarily because of media mediocrity. ("Mediocrity" and "media" don't come from the same Latin root (medius) for no reason.) Insofar as the clintons are concerned, the media confuse form with substance, smoothness with coherence, data-spewing with ratiocination, pre-programmed recitation with real-time analysis, an idiosyncratic degeneracy with creativity.

Jimmy Breslin agrees. In Hillary Is the 'Me-First' Lady, Breslin laments:

"At the end of all these years and years that are being celebrated this week, the national press of America consists of people with dried minds and weak backbones and the pack of them can't utter a new phrase for the language or show the least bit of anger at a business or profession or trade or whatever this business is that is dying of mediocrity."
 
Listen carefully to the clintons. You will hear a shallow parody of the class president. Not only do they say nothing; they say nothing with superfluous ineloquence. Their speeches are sophomoric, shopworn, shallow, specious. Platitudinous pandering piled atop p.c. cliché

In seven years, they have, collectively, uttered not one memorable word save, "It was a vast right-wing conspiracy," "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky,"and, "It all depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."

Even the clintons' attempts at alliteration fall flat. Compare Agnew's (Safire's) "nattering nabobs of negativism" with clinton's "preachers of pessimism," an impotent, one-dimensional, plagiaristic echo (its apt self-descriptiveness notwithstanding).

Before they destroy their backs along with their reputations, media gentry genuflecting at the altar of the clinton brain should consider Edith Efron's, Can the President Think?

A wasted brain is a terrible thing.

 

 

 

 

13 Posted on 02/20/2001 17:18:01 PST by Mia T
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clinton hunt-and-peck

LOL, Clinton's always been a huntin' pecker....

14 Posted on 02/20/2001 18:27:41 PST by Syncro
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To: Mia T

I saw a sign on the way home from work one night and it said, "You can't walk with God and hold hands with Satan at the same time." I sometimes wonder about the clintoons, but I don't think God wants to walk with no clintons no how, but Satan sure loves these two clintoons.

15 Posted on 02/20/2001 19:59:18 PST by Grassontop
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To: Mia T

Mia, thanks for the articles ... all of which were brilliant and of course (along with your comments) expressed far more eloquently what I was trying to say.

I must say, tho, it has been a continuing source of astonishment to me since 1991 to hear real, live, actual people tell me in my presence how "brilliant" these people were, and it probably accounts for why I started out with great blood pressure and now it is high/normal. People who otherwise in fact were intelligent, took all leave of their intellect and proclaimed these people "brilliant," and it NEVER mattered that they could not come up with a single example of the brilliance, whereas examples of their stupidity rained down day after day.

(Actually, I converted one Clinton defender who works with me. I wore him down with the daily examples of the stupidity, and he had the integrity to see how true it was. Now he comes to MY office with examples of the laughable incoherence of these grifters, and we DO laugh at the breathtaking idiocy of them -- not to be confused with their breathtaking mendacity and breathtaking fraudulence, which are stupid in a separate way).

The articles you post focus on the Adoescent Sociopath and his death-eating companion, but I want to know WHY WHY WHY so many people regard these people as "brilliant?" I have heard from conservatives comments like, "Well, you have to admit that whatever else they are, they are superintelligent." HUHHHHHHHHH??????????

What possesses people to abandon their eyes and ears and brain cells when it comes to these people? A truly, actual "brilliant" friend of mine claims it can only be diabolical, literally satanic. I dont think he's kidding (well ....) That explanation seems as good as any other, it is so mind-boggling.

Is it just a matter of ideological persuasion? No. (See above comment regarding conservatives, a situation I have also seen in conservative publications). Stupidity? No ... smart people say they are "brilliant."

To some extent it might be explained by the widespread but ridiculous American equation of degrees and elite universities with intelligence ... but it HAS to be more than that. Couldnt people make that common mistake and say these criminals were merely "smart" (which they are not) as opposed to "brilliant?"

We all know the criminality was understood perfectly by the liberals (except maybe Eleanor Clift), who pretended it was not criminality so they could save their precious little right to kill babies. THAT is understandable. THAT is mere dissembling. THAT'S just politics (as sleazy and dishonorable as it is).

But folks actually BELIEVE these two babbling idiots, who have achieved nothing, who are hollow to the core both spiritually and intellectually, who have never had an original thought, folks ACTUALLY believe these people are "brilliant."

In life, we all must allow others their little illusions sometimes, work with them, try to understand them. But the "brilliance" of these criminals is a mass delusion which deserves careful study, and I fear what it might reveal.

16 Posted on 02/20/2001 20:20:01 PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

Way back in '92, the Pres. of the League of Women Voters, who moderated (at least one of) the presidential debates (and who also happens to be a professor of political science at a northeast university) was telling me what a brilliant, amazing person this clinton person was. I told her then that she was very wrong...

Even in 2000, when I wrote "Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy," the people around me, hardly clintophiles, humored me with a lukewarm response...

Tonight on Hardball, Howard Feinman and Chris Matthews still talk of clinton 'brilliance' even as they dissect clinton stupidity, Feinman inserting Nietzsche to lend heft to both the clinton brain (such as it is) and his argument.

17 Posted on 02/20/2001 20:54:03 PST by Mia T
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

Another point...On Hardball, only Stuart Taylor called it as it is: STUPIDITY.

Talking about stupidity, that Tamara Edwards reporter from Time comes very close...All she could manage was a lament about poor hillary, the victim once again...and just when she was embarking on a new career...Can this woman really be that dense?

18 Posted on 02/20/2001 21:06:20 PST by Mia T
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