11 Q There came a time, did there not, that you wrote
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A number of articles have reported that FBI agent Robert Hanssen had become close personally and administratively to Louis Freeh. Hanssen has been formally accused of spying for the Russians for 15 years.
ABC NightLine on February 22,2001 reported Hanssen may have been involved in "STOLEN NUCLEAR SECRETS." Is this a pattern with Freeh too?
Remember this, under Freeh, the FBI botched its investigation of nuclear thefts by the Russians and Chinese at our nuke labs, defense contractors and military installations. A review of the handling of Wen Ho Lee and SDI transfers at Kirtland AFB are perfect examples. A close read of the Cox report and of Notra Trulock’s allegations also raises doubts about the FBI under Freeh.
Two other men close to Freeh left the FBI under a great cloud of suspicion. Freeh insisted that Larry Potts become his deputy but Potts was forced out for lying about Ruby Ridge. Freeh’s other close associate was Howard Shapiro, the White House Legal counsel to the FBI who left after his involvement in Filegate became known. Also it has been widely alleged in print and on TV that Freeh and Shapiro together rose to prominence in the FBI for their falsifying of evidence in the bombing of a judge in Georgia.
Today both Potts and Shapiro enjoy fat cushy jobs at Terry Lenzer’s IGI. Lenzner is a 30 year friend and former coworker of Hilary Clinton.
Congress and the DOJ found the FBI crime lab falsified evidence in scores of cases during Freeh’s tenure.
Allegations have been made that Freeh repressed efforts by Fredrick Whitehurst to have the FBI crime lab investigated. Weldon Kennedy, Freeh’s second hand picked deputy who replaced Potts, left the FBI after Senator Grassley accused Kennedy of lying to Congress about the FBI crime lab. Kennedy and Potts were also both in charge of the FBI's OKC bombing investigation and coverup, first Potts, then Kennedy.
Late last year FBI agent Joseph Rogoskey filed a Federal suit against Louis Freeh for Freeh blocking his efforts to have actions taken against FBI superiors who had been involved in alleged illegal acts involving national security operations.
There is evidence that suggests Freeh, Potts and Shapiro may have orchestrated and covered up Waco and the OKC bombing.
The FBI also had advanced warning, over six months before the Kenyan and Tanzanian bombings and did not stop the bombings. Freeh bragged to Congress in May 1995 that the FBI had set up and populated ME terrorist cells in the US. This was done with the aide of Ali Mohammed, a Ben Laden lieutenant, while Mohammed was an FBI operative and a former special forces instructor.
Today the FBI has told some here in OKC that the FBI cannot go after the ME terrorists they believe were involved in OKC bombing because to do so would compromise the FBI operations and infiltration and put the lives of their agents and informants in jeopardy (then why set up cells or infiltrate them if you will not do anything about them?).
Why should we trust Freeh given his involvement in the above debacles especially since he was close to Potts and Shapiro and perhaps even Hanssen??
Freeh needs to go. Even if innocent, his public trust has been diminished by the scandals and the men near him like Potts, Shapiro and Hanssen. His ability to lead the FBI in the future is seriously in question. But we do not need Frank Keating as Freeh’s replacement either given Keating’s baggage of scandals in government.
But Freeh also needs to be investigated. Freeh will probably be taken care of by one of his admirers if he leaves now unless he is found to have done something wrong against the US.
Please also send to Congressmen Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania, Bob Barr of Georgia, Dan Burton of Indiana and Henry Hyde of Illinois.
Someone should ask David Schippers how much of the evidence known at the time of the Senate trial could have involved espionage with Clinton and perhaps was known at the time to Hanssen and Freeh at the FBI.
BUMP
You may be on to something; however, has it crossed your mind that Freeh was deliberately "close" to Hansen, because Hansen may have been under surveillance for several years. There is the possibility that Freeh may have allowed Hanses to be given bogus information.
I'm not 100% sold on Freeh, but feel he may be of great value to Bush and the GOP in several areas, particularly in the camp finance scandal, and things we probably don't even know about.
I'm not 100% sold on Freeh,
I'm not 10% sold on Freeh.
Of all the criminals involved with the Clinton crime machine, Louie should be the last one thrown in jail.
In Bush's press conference going on now, he was asked something about Freeh and he said (paraphrasing) "I like Freeh. I think he has been doing a good job."
I wasn't watching closely, but just heard that comment.
Not that you haven't enough of a list already but I would add Freeh's participation in the protection of Lon Horiuchi from any kind of significant sanction for his killing of Vicki Weaver. I have avoided the temptation to use less neutral terms in the characterizatoin of Horiuchi and his action.
As happy as I am that we have Bush rather than Gore, I have the upleasant suspicion that problems that we may perceive concerning Federal Law Enforcement agencies (specifically F.B.I. and A.T.F.) are not likely to be perceived or dealt with by Bush.
I really hope and pray and Freeh rolls over on Reno, just to cover his six. Re: Elian, national security, witness intimidation, etc.
Concur generally on your sentiments re: Freeh. Unless I'm mistaken, Freeh took over the weekend V. Foster died, so I"m not sure how much he would have "orchestrated" Waco, though Sessions was indeed certainly squeezed out of the loop at the time. The Whitehurst stuff is of course troubling. I foolishly ddin't buy the Whitehurst book when it was released (cashflow issues), and now I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Just because Freeh was slick's enemy does not make him a friend to America's interests.
Just happened to be reading Stephen Jones book on McVeigh trial. He refers to Whitehurst , of course. He cites no book by Whitehurst but does cite a book: "Tainting evidence: Inside the scandals at the FBI crime lab" by John F. Kelly and Phillip K. Wearne. Amazon says it isn't currently available, but I also checked Powells Books which deals in both new and second hand books. They claim to have it both new and second hand. You can find them at : Powells.com.
Freeh knows most of all of it
its coming apart
Not to get off topic, but whatever happened to the FBI agent that wanted to 'talk' about 'illegal acts' being committed by cronies.
I think you mean FBI agent Joseph Rogoskey that I refer to in this editorial. As far I know his lawsuit is still pending in Federal court. Whitehurst Attorney Steven Kohn is representing Rogoskey.
If Rogoskey is a freeper, please freepmail me - or have your lawyer freepmail me.
Rogoskey's lawer Steven Kohn is listed in the DC phone book and you also can find him on people/business search on yahoo.com. His lawfirm is Kohn, Kohn and Colapinto.
Actually, that does look like the book. I guess I was confused. I think the authors must have interviewed Whitehurst extensively for the book, hence my confusion. How is the S Jones book, BTW? I bought a copy but haven't bothered to look through it yet -- though I imagine it's interesting, I don't think Jones is determined to tell the true and complete story . . .
I think W should have replaced EVERY person that worked in the previous administration....and I mean everyone....
"Remember this, under Freeh, the FBI botched its investigation of nuclear thefts by the Russians and Chinese at our nuke labs, defense contractors and military installations. A review of the handling of Wen Ho Lee and SDI transfers at Kirtland AFB are perfect examples. A close read of the Cox report and of Notra Trulock’s allegations also raises doubts about the FBI under Freeh."
It's time, Right Now ....for Freeh to be replaced!!!
HERE - IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT THIS PARAGRAPH REFERS TO - MULL OVER THIS AND GET OUT YOUR HANKIES
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It's imperative that all FR.com lurkers who haven't read THIS INHOFE SENATE FLOOR SPEECH FROM JUNE 23RD, 1999, DO SO NOW
- AND AGAIN, GET YOUR HANKIES OUT
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Kohn, Kohn and Colapinto info *here*
More on Joseph Rogoskey and why Freeh will be even more desperate to keep him quiet now *here*
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A clean sweep. What an idea. Works for me.
To dream a bit; if we could have a all new congress phased in over the next four years; including the judicial branch too. To get rid of the corruption and the good ole boy system,as well as the connections and influence of the lobbyist.
Impossible? Certainly an alluring and compelling possibility.
Many thanks for the links.
My point is this: If Freeh fesses up and rolls over on Reno, he can cover himself by saying (truthfully) that Reno ordered FBI agents to shut up (and much more that I can't discuss). Freeh and other FBI ageents have been victimized by Reno. He needs to tell the truth ASAP.
Certainly, someone from the FBI is reading this, but who's got the nerve to inform the boss?
Yes, ther may be truth to Freeh not being the person he is supposed to be in that position. But first I would like to know just who's fault the FBI is in the position it is in. Someone should talk to the agent that left and wrote the book "Unlimited Access", Gary Aldrich.
He left specifically because of the Clinton administration and the changes they made at the WH with the FBI. Under them it was a joke and they might as well have had no FBI. Their hands were tied. Aldrich worked under 4 administrations and was an agent I believe about 30 yrs. After just months under Clinton he had to leave.
You realize, of course, that the author of this thread has called Inhofe, whom you tout, a "coward" and a criminal for covering up the OKC bombing.
I'm beginning to think OKCSubmariner thinks EVERYBODY in government is a crook.
Which, of course, is a crock.
I'm on board. I always thought this guy was sleaze when he promoted Lon Horiuchi (sic). Freeh should have been fired by Bush!
Just because Freeh was slick's enemy does not make him a friend to America's interests.
IMHO, in the theater that was the Clinton Administration, Freeh played his role as a "good cop?" rather well.
He's a team player, but he wasn't playing for my team. He could of course prove me wrong by thoroughly ratting out the other actors, and he must do so in a manner that assures there will be incarcerative consequences.
I been trying personally to get Inhofe, Specter and Hatch, the Senate Intell Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee to do something about Freeh and the FBI since 1995. So far they have not done anything useful as far as I can tell.
I am glad they at least complained about the Chinese nuclear problems. But that is all they did, they did not continuing pursuing the problem to fix it.
Inhofe like Hatch and Specter knew about allegations concerning espionage problems with the Chinese, Russians, FBI and Clinton at the time of the Senate trial. Yet Inhofe blocked the trial behind the scenes and did not and has not yet adequately publicized or pursued the evidence according to David Schippers, the legal counsel for the House managers and also according to Inhofe's own pres secretary, Gary Hoitsma.
If I were Louis Freeh, I'd have resigned.
If I were George W. Bush, I'd have accepted Louis Freeh's resignation, and if it hadn't been tendered, I'd have fired him.
I doesn't matter whether Freeh knew or didn't know: he definitely should have known, and ultimately, the responsibility for the F.B.I. is his.
Thank you for weaving a troubling scenario, OKCS. I have had mixed opinions (uninformed) of Louie Freeh over the past seven years or so -- both positive and negative.
I wish Gary Aldrich would weigh in here with his opinion.
He has a Freep mail account under "Gary Aldrich" and you might want to alert him. I'm not sure how often he frequents this forum though.
they will do nothing
Congressional panels, interagency task forces and the Justice Department's inspector general repeatedly warned the FBI that it needed to subject agents to more frequent lie detector tests, increase their financial disclosure and impose tighter controls on the dissemination of classified documents.
But many of these proposals were rejected by FBI leaders on the grounds that they could harm the bureau's culture of trust among agents and hamper the recruitment of talented individuals, according to FBI sources and experts on espionage.
At the risk of sounding like a moron, since when did the FBI start dealing with international espionage in the first place???
I thought their bailiwick was domestic federal crimes and that spying was the C.I.A.'s province? I am bewildered!
And yes, Freeh needs to go. Too much bad stuff has happened on his watch for him to be doing his job properly.
As King's often uttered "Off with his head." That will solve that problem.
Louis Freeh MUST GO
Unless I'm mistaken, Freeh took over the weekend V. Foster died, so I"m not sure how much he would have "orchestrated" Waco, though Sessions was indeed certainly squeezed out of the loop at the time.
All the more reason to give him a polygraph.
I heard tonight that Dubya has given Freeh a "vote of confidence," which to me means he's stayin'. Anybody else hear about that?
I will bet that when and if they ask questions during his polygraph that they carefully and deliberately avoid asking Freeh most if not all the "right" questions. They will avoid questions whose answers could embarrass Republicans or even Democrats or anyone promoting world government at the expense of the individual liberties and rights of US citizens.
Bush has already said he will not pursue Chinagate or the allegations in the Cox report. If so, I doubt there will be any good questions for Freeh in those areas.
Of course, like the government does so conveniently in so many others cases. If they popped the right questions on Freeh, I dont think any of us would want to know the answers; or would we ;o)
sinkliberal, with marijuana pipe in hand, continues to post to the wrong folks:
"....whom you tout"
Mr sinkliberal, isn't it time for you to put the pot away when posting. (sigh)
Go back and read the post.
You promote Inhofe's speech (a good one, by the way), so I assume you like him. Maybe you don't.
OKC Sub thinks he's covered-up the OKC bombing.
I know the brother of Mr. Free and they are a decent family. I think Mr. Free was smart to wait until Clinton had left office before he went public with this spy. Granted there ere mistakes made, but it is impossible not to make mistakes in this business. In the next year you will see interesting revelations due to the fact that Mr. Free was prudent. Give the new adminsitration a chance to figure out what was going on and Ashcroft a few months to get a handle on things! However, it would be a good PR move if Free and his top advisors to do a polygraph test and require everyone there to do the same. There needs to be a shake down from the top to the bottom.
Mathew
I am not at all sold on Freeh. All his cover up and the obstruction with Ruby Ridge and Waco is enough to make me sick. Just because he suggested IC for Clinton does not a good law enforcement officer make.
Check out Bovards new book where he lays out a lot of that. Complete with letters from Freeh to Reno and testimony to Congress.
One important connection that I haven't seen discussed here on FR, though I may have missed it -- exactly how close were Hanssen and Freeh? It's been mentioned in passing that they attended the same Church in Vienna . . . and Hanssen was connected to Opus Dei -- but haven't I heard that Freeh, too, was connected to Opus Dei?
Opus Dei (that's Latin for "Work of God," for those of you unfortunate enough to have not Latin), is pretty hardcore, and rather small, order of Catholicism. (I believe OD recognizes two great evils -- Communism and Materialism -- and works to fight those value systems.) I'm not sure how exactly laity get involved with OD -- I know priests can join the order and a long-ago acquaintance of mine did soon after he was ordained (though now that I think of it, I believe he eventually left OD). Any input from those knowlegable would be welcome. But it seems that Hanssen and Freeh must have been pretty damn close if they were both affiliated with Opus Dei and both attended the same Church. It seems as if Hanssen was ingratiating himself to Freeh, someone who was going places at the FBI, and indeed became director. Having a friend like that would certainly help getting a job as one of the top two or three agents in the counterintelligence division, and would also put you above suspicion once there.
me too!
Any thoughts on Opus Dei?
Any thoughts on Opus Dei?
Opus Dei? Hmmm.
Intriguing dimension, previously unmentioned.
Wonder what LDS has on Opus Dei? Or what their dictates toward Red China are?
The Vatican is slobbering all over itself to get officially recognized by the Red Chinese, while at the same time selling out every Roman Catholic—and Christian for that matter—on Taiwan—and everywhere else in effect.
Food for thought.
Best regards. S&W R.I.P.
LDS? Latter-Day Saints?
I don['t know if I'd call the Vatican's actions toward Red China recognition slobbering . . . what have they done besides not recognize Taiwan (which I agree, is wrong -- the US should recognize Taiwan also). The Vatican still regulary condemns human rights violations in China and condemn the Vichy Church the ChiComs have set up there. . .
Latter Day Saints, yes.
Merely by the way, OKCSubmariner—there's a connection between Lenzner and Charlie Ravenel, one of those pardoned by what's-his-name, going back to the early '60's, if it's the same Charlie Ravenel.
As with Jim Guy Tucker, it may be the latter is a good guy gone bad. Who knows? No comment on t'other.
Best regards. S&W R.I.P.
The Jones book is certainly worth the read, particularly if you already own it. You are correct in anticipating that you will be frustrated by what he leaves out, but I suspect that his omissions were mostly mandated by law. If you think about it, we know very little about the nature of the evidence on which McVeigh was convicted and this book gives you some of that. With the exception of the Fortier's testimony (for which they were rewarded, no sentence for the wife, lesser sentence, latter overturned with little public notice, for Michael - their potential liability: failure to inform authorities of intended bombing as well as drug violations) the evidence was purely circumstantial. For me, given the doubts one would have, under the circumstances, of the Fortier's veracity, the prosecution's case failed the "beyond a reasonable doubt" test. The forensic evidence was totally corrupted and the eye-witness testimony had to be used very selectively. The woman who did the truck rental paperwork could not or would not identify McVeigh as the renter but another employee, present at the time, though his original description did not fit McVeigh, did identify him. The one witness (she was presented by the defense) who actually saw the driver of the truck park and exit the vehicle in front of the federal building gave a description which did not at all fit McVeigh. The prosecution raised her history of mental problems, and the jury was, I guess, persuaded to ignore her testimony. She was the woman whose leg had to be amputated to free her from the rubble.
Re #26 -- Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought you promised.
Thanks guys -- good thread
Freeh, Tenant, Negroponte, Mineta should go. Freeh is the most corrupt, Negroponte is the most globalist, Mineta is the most liberal, and tenant is .......
Anyone good enough for Clinton is too bad for me.
If it's such a crock name an honest politician at the federal level (besides Ron Paul). Can't do it, can ya?
There are plenty.
Steve Largent, Don Nickles, Phil Gramm, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Dick Armey, Joe Barton.....
I could go on and on.
"I heard tonight that Dubya has given Freeh a "vote of confidence," which to me means he's stayin'."
Hmmm.
Are you kidding? Those pinkos can't even follow their oath of office! How could you call them honest? You sir, are delusional (albeit a darn good egg) just ravingly delusional.
FRegards,
When you say "honest politician...like Ron Paul", do you mean that there is another one who gave up their Republican membership to become a losing Libertarian but then became a Republican again because they couldn't win as a Libertarian? Is this a requirement to be an "honest politician" in your view, or what?
Those pinkos can't even follow their oath of office!
I don't understand. If you're talking impeachment, they all voted in favor of conviction.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean.
Unless, of course, you think that an honest politician is one who can't win as a Libertarian, so becomes a stealth Republican so he can win.
Is that what you call honest?
I wouldn't care if Dr Paul ran as a Whig or a Reconstructionist, he knows what the oath of office is all about and he's never betrayed it. Never.
I don't have all night so I'll just go with the Conservative "icon" Armey for now.
"There's a feeling that the political risk may be higher than the political gain of pursuing this subject at this time," House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, said Thursday.
See Spink, when you swear to uphold the Constitution and somebody burns a bunch of (innocent until proven guilty, or at least charged with a crime) citizens alive after gassing them for two weeks solid..... YOU INVESTIGATE AND CONVICT THEM!!!!! Letting them get away with torching civillians out of political expediency is TRAITORIOUS CONDUCT!!!
Armey ain't fit to shine Dr Paul's shoes.
Thank you for this.
I agree that Freeh is as corrupt a scumbag as anybody Clinton had working for him. It is a mystery to me why Bush has not run him out of town. Let him get a job with his scumbag buddy Howard Shapiro at Lenzner's Democrat dirt machine.
BTW, wasn't Shapiro the worm who went to Clinton to rat out Gary Aldrich?
Lacking accomplishments, the Libertarians make do with a myth.
citizens alive after gassing them for two weeks solid.....
Gotta correct you again, Harry.
The gas was used for one day only.
Waco was investigated. Twice. Then, it was investigated a third time. Same result.
I know Dick Armey; he was my congressman for three years.
You can believe whatever you want. I know what kind of man he is.
"Unless, of course, you think that an honest politician is one who can't win as a Libertarian, so becomes a stealth Republican so he can win.
Is that what you call honest?"
To: freedomnews
Do not listen to what the Bush administration says.
Watch what they do. They'll hem and haw with the media, and do very little to combat "global warming."
2 Posted on 03/03/2001 18:46:48 PST by sinkspur
Apparently Ron Paul has the same level of honesty as Bush.
"Mythed again".
"Somehow we cannot let lying bureaucrats and FBI agents get away with destroying our freedoms and our country and putting our citizens at risk from more terrorism because of FBI failed and corrupt policies and practices. I hope articles like these will wake up enough people to turn things around."
22 Posted on 03/16/2001 00:03:14 PST by OKCSubmariner
Thank you so much for your informative posts and truth seeking.
Bush Pressured To Boot Freeh From FBI
Well, I would hope so. From reading this above thread it appears many were sleep walking for 8 years.
Freeh Accused of False Testimony
NOTE: Jim Robinson Posted The Article.
FBI director Freeh admits giving incomplete testimony to Congress
NOTE: Jim Robinson Posted The Article.
TRULOCK SUES FREEH AND HIS AGENTS OVER CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS
Complaint Filed
NOTE: Jim Robinson Posted Both Articles.
AMERICA: 2003
"Louis Freeh worked for the FBI for a couple of years in cases that were prosecuted by the US Attorney of Southern District of New York, Robert Fiske. [The DOJ's Southern District of New York [SDNY] is one of the most powerful breeding grounds for Flagship]. Then Freeh traveled to DC to work aside Sam Nunn, still as an FBI agent. Then Freeh became a DOJ lawyer with the Southern District of New York...then under Rudy Guiliani. In 1990, a very odd thing occurred in Freeh's life. Merely an assistant DOJ lawyer at the SDNY, he was tapped by President Bush's attorney general Thornburgh to be a special prosecutor in the high profile mail bombings in Alabama, known as Van-Pac. Freeh took his good buddy from the SDNY, Howard Shapiro with him. [You know Howard Shapiro? Freeh broke long-standing FBI tradtion by placing DOJ laywer Howard Shapiro as chief counsel to the FBI when Freeh took over...a job traditionally held by an FBI careerists.]
So Freeh went down, and VOILA! In a stunning stroke of brilliance he, he succeeded where others had failed: The FBI had fingered one guy, the ATF another. Freeh sided with the ATF and prosecuted the case, and won...not just the case, but a bit of prominence. A careful reading of the Van-Pac case leaves one feeling that justice wasn't really served. So it was of no surprise to me when FBI agent Whitehurst went public with accusations against the FBI crime lab for manufacturing evidence, and specifically targeting the Van-Pac case as one of the more heinous examples. The man who was incarcerated by Freeh on this tainted evidence won a new trial shortly after Whitehurst went public. As far as I know, it's still churning though the system. Was the evidence tampered with to provide a "profile WIN" for Louis Freeh? I would suggest to you very strongly that was, indeed, the case.
Suddenly, Freeh "jumped from an assistant US attorney to a judge and that's almost unheard of," said Rogers Abrahms. He was quoted in another bit of unbelieveable theater: When Freeh as given this small court judgeship of no prominence, in a civil court, while Freeh's experience had been in criminal law [like Jamie Gorelick's appointment to the DOJ #2 slot] US News and World Report suddenly found this emminiently newsworthy and dedicated an entire page in their national magazine to Louis Freeh in an article on 10 new 'up and comers". To jump from asst. prosecutor to judgeship is pretty rare...to get a civil court judgeship when your experience is in criminal law, is pretty rare...to get national press, for a young lawyer, serving in a no- account court-room, in a national publication, smacks of something else. He was being groomed.
And in the end, when he was appointed Director of the FBI the same day that Vincent Foster was found dead at Fort Marcy Park, the press headlines screamed: "FBI-Man Louis Freeh takes helm at Battered Agency", and touted this as FBI-man Louis Freeh being given the top job. The only problem was this: Freeh wasn't FBI. He'd served the FBI for 6 years, in his early career. He came to the FBI after TWELVE years serving in the Department of Justice. Freeh, by then, was no "FBI- guy"; he was a DOJ guy. And when he got in, he placed all his old compatriots from his experience in the Southern District of New York [DOJ] into high ranking FBI positions, ousting career FBI folks. Was Freeh truly the best candidate for the job of heading the FBI? Or was he just one of the stable of possibles that Clinton was allowed to choose from? In the end, it was a silent coup by career DOJ employees taking over the FBI. And the corruption within the FBI is, unfortunatly, something we are witness to on a weekly basis. One could argue that the government has made great strides in turning our law enforcement agencies into repressive machines. The consolidation of national law enforcement since Clinton took office is stunning, and has never been fully reported by the press. I have researched it on my own, and it is alarming...in plain sight, but never told publicly."
New Report Details FBI Cover-Up in Foster Investigation
FBI official in Foster case promoted
Clinton Loved Louis Freeh - How Come?
Just curious - Don't FBI Files Come From The FBI?
Street Fascism - Where was Louis Freeh when this was going on?
Living In Wonderland: Tired of the lies, Propaganda and Hypocrisy
"Another surprising coincidence is that the day before Foster committed suicide Bill Clinton dismissed FBI director William Sessions. He replaced him with errand boy Louis Freeh, a man who made his name by obtaining a very dubious conviction of a mail bomber. Later testimony showed that the FBI laboratory had manufactured evidence to make the prosecution's case stronger. Freeh is another Clinton lap-dog, a totally unprincipled bureaucrat who has helped orchestrate several large government cover-up's in the last 6 years."
FBI COVER-UP OF CHINESE INFILTRATION OF WHITE HOUSE
FBI Had Overlooked Key Files In Probe of Chinese Influence
WELDON TO Louis Freeh: "WHERE'S OUR SUPERCOMPUTER?"
Anger over FBI's Waco revelations sparks new investigations
"Congressional ire was raised with the FBI's admission Wednesday — after years of claims to the contrary — that a "very limited number'' of incendiary tear gas grenades were lobbed near the Davidians' compound outside Waco, Texas, in the hours before the wooden structure erupted in flames. The acknowledgment came on the heels of a newspaper report challenging the earlier statements."
Ex-FBI official says agency used 2 pyrotechnic grenades on Branch Davidians
"Others Known" to the FBI in the OKC Bombing Case
FBI OBTAINED 250 HIGH EXPLOSIVE ROUNDS FROM ARMY FOR USE DURING WACO
FBI, Delta Force, ATF, All fire Shots into Mt. Carmal killing children
A Graveyard Called Waco - FBI Agent Talks
Three John Does in the OKC Bombing Were Protected FBI Informants
BOMBSHELL!!! THE REV. ROBERT MILLAR IDENTIFIED AS FBI INFORMANT
Witnesses, Israelis & Congressional Officials Say Middle Eastern Men Particpated In OKC Bombing?
FBI AGENT ADMITS TWA 800 COVER-UP
FBI suppressed likely cause of TWA 800 crash for months, senator says
White House Went After Aide's FBI File
"Following media reports that the Dale file had been obtained, FBI Director Louis J. Freeh accused the White House of "egregious violations of privacy" in seeking secret background files and ordered sweeping new measures to protect the bureau's sensitive background information. He said the FBI had given "inadequate protection to the privacy interests of persons in FBI files."
Hahahahaha. Who's in charge of the FBI!!!
FBI Conspiracy in Foster Death Investigation
Patrick Knowlton v. FBI Agent Bransford
FBI COVER-UP OF CHINESE INFILTRATION OF WHITE HOUSE
Despite evidence, FBI ends two death probes
New Evidence of OKC Bomb Cover-up
Lon Horiuchi(Ruby Ridge Killer) Agent in Charge of Waco Sniper Post
OKC Bombing: Bombshell!! The Rev. Robert Millar identified as FBI Informant
FBI Agent Admits TWA 800 Cover-Up
China Spy Suspect's Wife Was FBI Informant
BLOOD BROKER INVESTIGATED BY FBI ALREADY IN 1974 - Foundation for 1980s Tainted Blood Scandal
From prison cell, Hale speaks more of Whitewater case
"FBI agents seized Hale's loan files when they raided his office on July 21, 1993.
"The file on the $300,000 loan was three to four inches thick when the FBI took it, but when my attorney and I asked to see it a month or so later, the U.S. attorney's office gave us maybe an inch of stuff,'' Hale says."
Hmmm, what day was Foster assassinated?
Louis Freeh? Only for useful idiots.
FBI Suppresses and Falsifies Information About Middle Eastern Suspects in the OKC Bombing Case
"KTOK radio in OKC has reported that Debbie Burdick of OKC saw two Middle Eastern men in a blue vehicle several blocks north of the Murrah Building, a few minutes after the building was bombed on April 19, 1995. These men are suspected of having been with and having helped McVeigh in front of the Murrah Building shortly before the Ryder truck exploded."
LOUIE FREEH'S FBI STILL KEEPING THE LID ON EYEWITNESS REPORTS
"Debbie Burdick, another in a series of eyewitnesses who sighted additional individuals who appeared to be in the company of Timothy McVeigh. As with other witnesses, she also contacted the FBI about her sightings and observations. She says she was treated "like a loony old lady" by the agents she spoke with.
At approximately 9:00 on the morning of April 19, 1995 Mrs. Burdick and her son were passengers in a car driven by her daughter. They were en route to an appointment with their doctor at a nearby hospital. Mrs. Burdick described what she saw and experienced on that fateful day in downtown Oklahoma City, just four blocks from the federal building.
Robinson Avenue is a one-way street, running from north to south through Oklahoma City, with the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building located at the intersection of 5th and Robinson. The Burdicks had inadvertently pulled their vehicle onto Robinson heading north, the wrong way on that one-way street. Somewhat flustered when she discovered the traffic light was not visible to her, the daughter said, "Mom, what should I do?" Mrs. Burdick said, "just watch them," referring to the three vehicles waiting for the light to change at the cross street. "When they move out of the intersection, we can go." But the cars did not move. "They must have sat there through two light changes," she said. "That's when I noticed the ones in the little blue car were looking off to the left of us, not at us."
There were three cars at the intersection. The little blue car with white interior had three male occupants. They were the only ones visible to Mrs. Burdick who described them as being "of dark descent, but not black." Next to it was the second vehicle, a brown pickup with dark windows which prevented the occupants from being seen. Behind was the third vehicle, a large light-colored Mercury, which had the sun visor down obscuring the driver from view.
The occupants of the small car, two men in the front seats and one in the back, were intently looking southward toward the federal building, "like they were expecting something to happen." Mrs. Burdick commented to her family, "What in the world are they looking at?" She turned to look in that direction saying, "there's nothing over there but buildings."
Turning back around and facing forward, she saw the three vehicles finally move through the intersection. This cleared the way for her own car to move off their collision course on the one-way street. Just as her daughter started ahead, the massive explosion at the federal building hit. "It blew us through the intersection," Mrs. Burdick said.
When they turned back to look in the direction of the federal building, all they could see was debris falling. "When the air cleared, which wasn't long, I saw a helicopter hovering over the [federal] building," she said. Very shortly thereafter, police, firefighters, and the ambulances were at the scene. It all seemed to have been orchestrated as if by prearrangement. When the family refocused on their immediate surroundings, Mrs. Burdick said, "I looked ahead and there was a bomb squad going around the corner." This was not an isolated sighting of the bomb squad on the morning of April 19. It had been seen by others earlier that morning in the vicinity of the federal building.
Later, the Burdicks returned to the spot where they had observed the three cars . She said it was an ideal place from which to see the building being blown up. "I've driven to other locations" for comparison, but "you had the clearest view" from that spot.
As previously mentioned, Mrs. Burdick reported the entire experience to the FBI but they showed no interest. However, after a lapse of almost two and one-half years, the FBI did contact Mrs. Burdick just before the trial of Terry Nichols. This time they called her telling her not to talk to anyone about the incident, especially not Michael Tiger, attorney for Terry Nichols."
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Oklahoma City Bombing - USDOJ/OIG FBI Labs Report
FBI=Facilitating Bombing Incidents
THE FBI ALLOWED THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMBING TO HAPPEN - N.Y. Times - October 28, 1993 Page A1
11 Q There came a time, did there not, that you wrote
12 a memo to the section chief, John Hicks, asking to be
13 advised as to the FBI's policy regarding concealment of
14 evidence from the court, correct?
15 A Yes.
16 MR. McCARTHY: Objection.
17 THE COLTRT: Overruled. Did you write such a
18 memo?
19 Q Your answer is yes?
20 A Yes, I did.
21 Q Would I be correct in stating that many of your
22 reports were returned to you with suggestions that slanted
23 the conclusions against the defendants in the World Trade
24 Center case?
25 MR. McCARTHY: Objection. Form only. I don't
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2 THE COURT: Overruled.
3 A That was the reason I wrote the memo requesting
4 that Mr. Hicks clarify our position on biassing reports. I
5 wanted to know if by not biassing my reports I was breaking
6 any federal law or FBI regulation. It was such a strong
7 pressure I thought, maybe I'm wrong about this. Maybe
8 there's a reason that I am supposed to bias my reports. I
9 didn't know what it was. That memo I never received an
10 answer from.
11 Q The pressure that you felt was from members of
12 the FBI, agents within the FBI?
13 A That's correct.
14 Q Would I be correct in saying that you were
15 criticized openly for the wording of your reports and told
16 that your reports could hurt the prosecution's case?
17 A That's correct.
18 Q Did there come a time, air, when you were
19 actually physically confronted by a field agent by the name
20 of Don Haldimann?
21 A That's correct.
...17 Q You were also told, were you not, that it didn't
18 matter what you said because jurors couldn't understand that
19 stuff any-way?
20 A That's correct. Yes.
21 Q And you were also told to maximize the numbers of
22 names of equipment and the numbers of chemicals so as to add
23 a glitz to your reports that would impress and confuse the
24 jury?
....14 Mr. Williams didn't quite fit what he wanted he went to
15 management. One of those situations was in detecting the
16 presence of nitroglycerine in the bottles that were taken to
17 Liberty Park. We couldn't do it. It wasn't possible
18 scientifically. It was inappropriate to say there was
19 nitroglycerin in those bottles based upon the data we had.
20 Mr. Williams would just not, was just not
21 satisfied with that, and I found myself in the section
22 chief's office with Mr. Williams in New York on a party
23 phone with someone else, I don't know who it was. I was
24 there with my section chief, my assistant section chief and
25 my unit chief as Mr. Williams tried to railroad
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2 Ultimately, his approach was so preposterous even
3 my section chief had to call him down on it. We just didn't
4 have the data. There was the issue where my unit chief told
5 me that they wanted qualifying statements out of my reports.
6 I finally had to say, "Well, you'll just have to fire me, I
7 am not going to lie in a court of law."
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The Gold Market - World Trade Center Bombing - J. Orlin Grabbe
There's been a bomb at the World Trade Center
"We all looked over at Kelley, one of the gold traders. She was quoting the Telerate news ticker off the monitor on her desk. There was no further information.
We then looked past Kelley, out the seventh floor windows of 222 Broadway, and down the half block of a side street to No. 4 World Trade Center (WTC). The COMEX, where gold futures are traded, was on the 8th floor of No. 4 WTC, and Kelley and one of the other gold traders had open phones lines to the trading floor.
The background voices at the COMEX, heard over the speakers where we were, sounded normal. The street scene outside looked normal also.
"Why don't you ask the floor if there's anything unusual over there," I suggested to Kelley. We had two brokers on the COMEX floor.
Nothing out of the ordinary, they said. No bomb here. One opined he had felt a small shake of the building. The other one hadn't noticed even that.
Those of us at 222 Broadway went back to work, filing away this interesting, but seemingly irrelevant piece of information: a bomb at the World Trade Center. It was, in fact, another hour before smoke began to fill the elevators at No. 4 WTC, and COMEX traders were ordered to evacuate the building. In the meantime, Kelley kept us updated as more news hit the ticker.
"It was centered in the garage area," she announced.
For the first time, someone looked concerned. "I'm parked over there," he said.
Tom wandered by my desk. "Want to go take a look?" he asked. Tom was a PhD chemist who had turned option trader. He had a natural curiosity about explosions.
I declined the invitation. Where there is one bomb, there may be two, and I preferred to wait until the excitement was over. If the bomb was in the parking garage, I doubted there was anything to see, anyway. Tom shrugged and left by himself. He returned with a report: the bomb had collapsed the lobby floor of the Vista Hotel on the ground floor of the tower at No. 1 WTC, as well as the floor below that, and a 20- foot crater now extended out to the street beside the tower. From our windows, we couldn't see the activity taking place because No. 4 WTC blocked our view. I reflected that I had passed through the Vista Hotel lobby the previous day, en route to the walkway connecting the World Trade Center to the World Financial Center located on the other (wharf) side of Manhattan's Westside Highway.
As it turned out, the WTC bomb had been planted by an FBI informant, whose FBI handler had insisted he use real explosives, and not fake that part of the "sting". This was reported in the New York Times before Louis Freeh's media handlers went to work and quashed reports of the FBI connection, and diverted all attention to the supposedly purely foreign nature of the "Middle Eastern terrorists" (with U.S. intelligence connections) whose operation the FBI had been assisting under the guise of conducting a "terrorist sting".
It was claimed the bombers had intended to bring down the tower at No. 1 WTC. Though in fact the van filled with explosive (alleged, but not shown, to be urea nitrate) had done no damage to the building structure. Explosive pressure drops off approximately with the cube of the distance, so to do serious damage with a low-power explosive, you need to attached it to the building columns.
What the explosion had done was to take out two floors in a particular area vertical to the van location, and to fill the building cavities with smoke. Most of the 1000 or so injuries resulted from smoke inhalation, and were basically confined to those taking the commuter trains from New Jersey into the train station in the basement of the WTC. That is, to passers-through trapped in smoke, and not to people actually working at the WTC.
By the end of the day, Tom and I were discussing ANFO bombs instead of options. Where I had grown up in Texas, ammonium nitrate was widely used as fertilizer. It was just one of those things prevalent in the environment, like gasoline and butane, that you used and treated with respect. I had never known anyone killed with ammonium nitrate, although I had known two people, including one neighbor, who had blown themselves up welding "empty" butane tanks.
No, the FBI-assisted terrorists hadn't done much damage to the World Trade Center, relatively speaking, aside from the Vista Hotel. But for a few hours on Feb. 26, 1993, they had shut down the COMEX, and-- London trading having finished for the day--most of the world's gold market along with it."
[End of Partial Transcript]
by Louis Beam
Tapes made secretly by an FBI informant of conversations between him and his agency handlers have linked the nations largest law enforcement agency to the "the most destructive terrorist act in U.S. history."
Emid Ali Salem, an FBI informant used hidden microphones given him by Federal Bureau of Investigation agents to record his conversations with agents of the bureau. A Los Angles Times article on 10/28/93 revealed to shocked readers details of FBI involvement in the terrorist act. FBI spokesmen in Washington refused comment.
The tapes became public knowledge when they were ordered released by a federal judge presiding over the case of the indicted suspects. The Justice Department fought hard to prevent their release. The terrorist bombing of the World Trade Center left six dead and over a thousand people injured. The tapes which have been published by the New York Times reveal that Salem warned his FBI bosses that the World Trade center was soon to be bombed and urged them to prevent it.
Speculation is now rampant in political circles that certain factions within the government may have desired the bombing in order to speed passage of new "anti-crime legislation." This suspicion was further fueled by the startling revelation that the FBI denied Salem's request to use phony explosives in the bomb he was helping to build under FBI supervision -- the bomb ultimately used in the World Trade Center explosion.
Former Watergate associate prosecutor Richard Ben-Veniste warned that these tapes pose "an absolute night-mare for federal prosecutors." One high-ranking law enforcement officer who insisted on secrecy said that in less than a years time the FBI has been linked to criminal abuse of power and the mishandling of cases in three different instances. "First we had Weaver, where an HRT member shot a mother with a baby in her arms, then Waco, where mishandling led to the deaths of a hundred people, and now the World Trade Center, where it appears the bombing could not have happened unless the agency let it."
All of this comes on the heals of a internal affairs report by the Justice Departments Office of Professional Responsibility, linking FBI agents to everything from drug abuse to shoplifting. OPR's annual report provided further startling proof that the agency formally most respected for it's law enforcement skills - has gone bad. The report compiled by Michael Shaheen, the only person ever to hold the position of counsel to the Office of Professional Responsibility, cites drug use, bribery, brutality, and other crimes as "representative examples of misconduct investigated by the office." Shaheen dutifully noted that his office also monitored several hundred misconduct cases being handled by the internal investigative unit of the FBI. The FBI is facing wide spread criticism that the bureau has become a police state agency enforcing political programs considered unpopular by the American people.
[End of Transcript]
World Trade Center Bombing - USDOJ/OIG FBI Labs Report
Open Letter to Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly
Raymond W. Kelly Under Secretary (Enforcement)
Former New York City Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly was sworn in as the Under Secretary for Enforcement of the Treasury Department on June 27, 1996.
As Under Secretary, Mr. Kelly has direct supervisory authority over the Department's enforcement bureaus, including the U.S. Customs Service, the U.S. Secret Service, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, and the Office of Foreign Assets Control.
Mr. Kelly brings to the position more than thirty years of experience and commitment to public service. A former Marine who served in combat in Vietnam, he rose through the ranks of the New York City Police Department, serving in every rank and 25 commands, before becoming Commissioner in October 1992, a post he held until his retirement in January 1994. His leadership was critical in the successful investigation of the World Trade Center bombing in 1993 and in directing the largest increase in uniform ranks in the department's history. Mr. Kelly was recognized as New York State's Law Enforcement Official of the Year in 1993.
More recently, Mr. Kelly served in Haiti as director of the International Police Monitors of the Multinational Force from October 1994 through March 1995. These monitors helped to establish Haiti's interim public security force. President Clinton awarded Mr. Kelly a commendation for "exceptionally meritorious service" and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Shalikashvili awarded him the Commander's Medal for Public Service. In October, 1997, Mr. Kelly was elected Vice President of the Americas for INTERPOL.
Mr. Kelly is the former president and director of The Investigative Group Inc.'s New York operations. The Investigative Group Inc. is an international investigation firm with offices in New York, Washington, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, and London.
Mr. Kelly is an attorney with law degrees from St. John's University and New York University, where he has lectured on the law, public policy, and crisis management. He is a graduate of Manhattan College and holds a master's degree in public administration from the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. He was awarded an honorary doctorate from Marist College in May 1985 and from Manhattan College in 1996 in recognition of his lengthy and distinguished career in public service.
He is married and has two grown sons.
From Here
Louis, I know what you mean.
"The government did not intend to kill the Branch Davidians at Waco."
Michael Medved - KVI 570 Seattle Radio Talkshow host - today - March 16, 2001.
BTTT
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