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NASCAR Team Owner Hendrick: Pardon Now Questioned

Crime/Corruption Breaking News News Keywords: CLINTON, BRIBE, BANK OF AMERICA
Source: Fox News Channel
Published: February 26, 2001 Author: Linda Vester
Posted on 02/26/2001 11:36:32 PST by TommyDale

Rick Hendrick, owner of a major car dealership and NASCAR team owner, was convicted for mail fraud in 1997. He was a member of NationsBank's Board of Directors. His friend Hugh McColl was the chairman of NationsBank at that time. When NationsBank merged with Bank of America, McColl became chairman and CEO of Bank of America. McColl wrote a letter to Bill Clinton, recommending a pardon for Rick Hendrick -- and on December 7, 2000, Hugh McColl announced that Bank of America would donate $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Two weeks later, Hendrick would receive a Presidential Pardon. Neither Hendrick nor McColl would return phone calls to Fox News.


How this story remained off the front pages in the Raleigh area is obvious -- there are just too many Rick Hendrick friends. This is not questioning Hendrick's pardon, but the apparent payoff to Clinton by the Bank of America CEO.

1 Posted on 02/26/2001 11:36:32 PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

Pat Caddell is right--the liebrary fund is full of smoking cannons. This is going to get better and better.....

2 Posted on 02/26/2001 11:39:35 PST by eureka!
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To: t-shirt

McColl wrote a letter to Bill Clinton, recommending a pardon for Rick Hendrick -- and on December 7, 2000, Hugh McColl announced that Bank of America would donate $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Two weeks later, Hendrick would receive a Presidential Pardon. Neither Hendrick nor McColl would return phone calls to Fox News.

Now THIS is more promising in the bribery department - it still would be tough prosecuting unless you uncovered a clear connection between the $500,000 payment and the pardon - but this would be a payment directly to Bill. The payment to Hugh Rodham is not, IMO, bribery but an unethical lobbying/legal payment.

3 Posted on 02/26/2001 11:41:45 PST by dirtboy
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To: TommyDale

This is just wonderful.

Anyone who owns Bank of America stock (ticker BAC) can stand up at the next annual meeting and blast management for this absurdity.

4 Posted on 02/26/2001 11:43:07 PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: rdavis, jedediah smith

FYI

5 Posted on 02/26/2001 11:43:35 PST by mancini
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To: NativeNewYorker

I am not a stock holder, but I have an account and bank with them. I remember when the $ 500,000 donation was announced and was angry then. I am so glad this has come out. If this is not legal bribery, it is at least a major embarrassment for Hugh McColl - Clinton. of course, is beyond embarrasment.

6 Posted on 02/26/2001 11:56:49 PST by Malesherbes
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To: TommyDale

Bank of America would donate $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

What's the 'Clinton Foundation'? The Clinton Library Foundation/fubd?

When did McColl write the letter asking for the pardon?

7 Posted on 02/26/2001 11:57:08 PST by Dabney
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To: TommyDale

Scandal du jour.

8 Posted on 02/26/2001 11:58:52 PST by japaneseghost
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To: TommyDale

Thanks for tying up the knots as to the reason for the $500,000 donation to Clintons' slush fund. I have written to Bank of America quoting the above article, asking them to deny it. I also informed them that I will be closing all my accounts with them if they cannot within forty-eight hours.

9 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:01:19 PST by Conservobabe (sgraham@igateway.net)
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To: Dabney

The full name: Clinton Liebrary Money Laundering Foundation. The gifts that keep on giving.

10 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:03:47 PST by floriduh voter
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To: NativeNewYorker

Bank of America also dumped money into the Gore Florida legal fight. Check into Bank of Americas news releases for the last several years in the archives.

11 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:07:39 PST by oldironsides
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To: dirtboy

Now THIS is more promising in the bribery department

Indeed. Certainly the refusal to divulge donors and amounts is suspicious. Perhaps the reluctance to open up the Library donor records relates to an amazingly high correlation between contributions and pardons?

12 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:10:18 PST by r9etb
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To: dirtboy

Well, maybe there are some e-mails in this regard. Seems to me that McColl got a heads up that time was running out and to make a donation asap. Then two weeks later, a pardon. The timing is very suspicious. I think Bill's minions were busy pressuring big time donors at the last minute - "it's now or never". And they came through. If the DNC or WH staff are acting on behalf of Bill Clinton in this fashion, there is quid pro quo without Bill having to get directly involved. Just subpoena key staff people and their e-mail records.

13 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:11:22 PST by floriduh voter
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To: oldironsides

Bank of America also dumped money into the Gore Florida legal fight.

This crowd was never known for its brains or its ethics in the financial world, so I guess this idiocy should be no surprise.

14 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:13:59 PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: TommyDale

No great surprise. In the early eighties, McColl was a two-bit exec of a small credit union in South Carolina.(Springs Industries/Erskin Bowles and the Close family) He was such a deadbeat, that he had to have his staff lie for him as to his where-abouts so the repo man would not take his Jaguar. McColl is as filthy as they come.

15 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:14:14 PST by blackdog
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To: TommyDale

Time for a stockholder's suit.

16 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:16:30 PST by js1138
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To: TommyDale

Rick Hendrick and his auto dealerships are the worst kind of crooks. Preying on the weak to legally rob them in the sales department and outright fraud and theft in his service departments.

17 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:19:52 PST by TC Rider
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To: FrostFire

FYI

18 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:23:50 PST by Nita Nupress
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To: TC Rider

Rick Hendrick and his auto dealerships are the worst kind of crooks. Preying on the weak to legally rob them in the sales department and outright fraud and theft in his service departments.

Um, that pretty much sounds like every car dealership! Besides, that's not what Hendrick was charged with.

You don't work at a competitor's dealership, do you?

19 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:26:56 PST by Dog Gone
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To: mancini

Thanks for the flag; very interesting.

20 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:29:55 PST by jedediah smith
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To: TommyDale

I think I have heard that BoA donated to both the Bush and the Reagan libraries also. Anyone care to research this to see if this is a matter of course with them and it is coincidence that the Hendrick pardon issue came up at the same time?

Not defending BoA, Hendrick, or anyone else ..... but we do have a tendency to be paranoid .... (for good reason, I might add) and we need to be careful not to see a devil around every corner. Someone needs to check this one out and not jump to invalid conclusions ....... then let 'er rip if it does, indeed, seem to be another quid pro quo.

21 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:34:08 PST by kayak
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To: Dog Gone

Um, that pretty much sounds like every car dealership!

OUCH! My ex husband owns 3 car dealerships - maybe that's why he's an "ex". BUT, didn't Hendrick's get special consideration in the sentencing of his crime - like no time served - because of his health? He has Leukemia, or something dreadful like that.

22 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:34:34 PST by Commonsense
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To: TommyDale

Corporate America is knee-deep in this Democrat corruption, from donating to the Clinton Shrine in exchange for pardons, to Jesse's shake-down operation. It all makes me sick.

23 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:35:29 PST by CapeGuy
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To: blackdog

>>>>. In the early eighties, McColl was a two-bit exec of a small credit union in South Carolina.(Springs Industries/Erskin Bowles and the Close family)<<<<

Erskine Bowles surely rings a bell with all of us--another dot connected in this incestuous scheme. I had long known the connection of McCall and Hendrick did not realize there was a connection to Bowles too.

The Tarheel

24 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:36:50 PST by Tarheel
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To: Commonsense

Hendrick's leukemia is is remission, and currently doesn't require treatment, according to one press report. My beef is certainly not with Rick Hendrick -- I wish him well. But the facts do show some VERY strange coincidences...

25 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:40:39 PST by TommyDale
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To: Commonsense

My wife worked at a car dealership, too, so I know all the abuse they receive (lots of which is deserved).

Hendrick underwent successful chemotherapy, and apparently is in full remission. I don't think he served any jail time, but he was fined and kept away from NASCAR. He may have even been under house arrest for a period, but I'm not sure of that.

26 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:41:48 PST by Dog Gone
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To: TommyDale

You guys want to see the really BIG MONEY, check out Hedricks aircraft sales and leasing operation. It operates out of Signature FBO in Charlotte. You want to influence a politician???? Have a feww citations/Hawkers/Lears/and King Airs that you make available as "Demo sales flights" You fly any political hack and their friends 24/7 and you would be amazed at who will go to bat for you!!!!

27 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:43:39 PST by blackdog
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To: TommyDale

My father has claimed Hendrick is a crook from the beginning. He also questioned the timing of Hendrick's "illness". Who knows? Sure doesn't look good, huh?

28 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:48:00 PST by bearsgirl90
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To: Dog Gone

Hendrick found out that he had leukemia just weeks (days?) before his trial was to start. He decided to fight for his life rather than fight a court battle ..... entered into a plea bargain. Because of his need for chemo, he was given house arrest for, I think, a year ...... and was forbidden to participate in any of his businesses during that year ..... both his automotive business and Hedrick Motorsports ...... couldn't go to the office, the shops, or the races.

At least one positive thing came out of his experience ..... Hendrick Motorsports in particular, and NASCAR to a lesser extent (I think), is now a big advocate of bone marrow drives ...... and there is no way to account for the good that has come from that.

God can use any circumstance for good!

29 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:50:36 PST by kayak
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To: Tarheel

Erskin Bowles is married to Ann Close's daughter.Ann is the Springs Industries textile heir. In all fairness, she is the matriarch and has no time for Bill Clinton. The subsequent generation however(Ann's children) are another story. They orchestrated his visit to Fort Mill in 1994.

30 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:51:24 PST by blackdog
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To: bearsgirl90

How do you "fake" leukemia? Better yet, is it worth injecting the chemo chemicals into your body to complete the hoax?

31 Posted on 02/26/2001 12:58:29 PST by TomB
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To: blackdog

Clinton/Stephanopoulos/McColl/Ludwig Connection

Another quid pro quo? The source is The American Spectator, but it is interesting reading.

32 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:11:43 PST by ravingnutter
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To: js1138

Well, I don't have stock in BofA anymore, haven't since Claire Gianinni left the Board. This is a far cry from A.P.'s old bank -- one of my great uncles was on the Board from the 'teens through WWII, and those men wouldn't have given Clinton the time of day.

33 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:21:27 PST by CatoRenasci
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To: blackdog

Wow...

On September 29, 1994, you [Clinton] signed the Fair Trade in Financial Services Act into law, a measure which no one pushed harder for than NationsBank and its president Hugh McColl, who told shareholders that the law would save NationsBank $50 million a year. Two weeks later, the cash-strapped Democratic National Committee received a $3.5 million line of credit from NationsBank at a favorable interest rate.

Center for Public Integrity

34 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:21:45 PST by ravingnutter
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To: Dog Gone

Rick Hendrick and his auto dealerships are the worst kind of crooks. Preying on the weak to legally rob them in the sales department and outright fraud and theft in his service departments.

Um, that pretty much sounds like every car dealership! Besides, that's not what Hendrick was charged with.

You don't work at a competitor's dealership, do you?

No, but I sold cars for a living about 20 years ago, and things have not really changed that much.

There are still good and bad dealers, with the bad, blemishing the good.

My comments are made on personal experience. One of Rick's dealerships, hid my trade-in back in '85, as they tried to high pressur me to sign a bad deal. Made it difficult to drive away.

I had to call the Chapel Hill Police and threaten to report my car as stolen before they returned it to me.

On another occasion, they tried to skin me on service work for my '85 Blazer at their Apex Chevy dealership. (It was not until later that I learned that Rick owned both dealerships). On that occasion I confronted them with the "good" parts they had replaced on my SUV and still had to threaten a call to the Attorney General before they adjusted my bill.

And no, that's not what he was arrested for, but it seems Rick tried to cut every corner he could, he finally got caught making payoffs to get his distribution adjusted. I'm just happy he got caught. As we've learned from the Clintons, a fish rots from the head down.

35 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:25:17 PST by TC Rider
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To: Conservobabe,Malesherbes,dirtboy

Be careful... BofA has given $500k to Reagan's and Bush's library as well. At least they are being consistent. Had it been only Clinton's library I would agree with you. By doing the same thing for every Ex-President they are being "nonpartisan".

36 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:30:48 PST by DB
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To: TC Rider

That explains a lot. And I didn't figure Clinton pardoned him because he liked Jeff Gordon's clean-cut image. It turns out he pardoned Hendrick in spite of it.

37 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:34:21 PST by Dog Gone
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To: dirtboy

Now THIS is more promising in the bribery department - it still would be tough prosecuting unless you uncovered a clear connection between the $500,000 payment and the pardon - but this would be a payment directly to Bill.

I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but it is NOT a payment to UOx42, but to his Foundation--a separate legal entity. You still have to prove UOx42 received money--from the foundation--to make this theory work. Isn't this wonderful?

But the plus is that if such a link CAN be made, then the Foundation becomes a front, and it's possible to start thinking RICO.

38 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:35:53 PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Tarheel

Bowles' wife was a Close before she married him. The Close family controls Springs Industries in SC. Elliot Close ran against Strom Thurmond in 1996. Gov. Jim Hodges was the in-house counsel for Springs before he was elected Governor of SC.

39 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:40:18 PST by PJeffQ
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To: Tarheel

Bowles' wife was a Close before she married him. The Close family controls Springs Industries in SC. Elliot Close ran against Strom Thurmond in 1996. Gov. Jim Hodges was the in-house counsel for Springs before he was elected Governor of SC.

40 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:40:19 PST by PJeffQ
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To: Tarheel

Erskine Bowles surely rings a bell with all of us--another dot connected in this incestuous scheme. I had long known the connection of McCall and Hendrick did not realize there was a connection to Bowles too.".....

Yeah! After leaving Washington Bowles sold his investment banking firm Bowles, Hollowell Conner to First Union Capital Markets Corp, and he sits on the Board of First Union, the cross town rival of BofA. The whole banking world in Charlotte is incestuous. Bowles is a big time player!

41 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:49:32 PST by aShepard
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To: PJeffQ

If you really want to get conspiratorial, David Icke says in his book "The Biggest Secret" that the Springs family was actually merely a pawn of the Payseur family, which was one of the major controlling families in America during the Colonial period, where they played a big role behind the scenes. He says the Springs were actually the Springsteins, I think.

42 Posted on 02/26/2001 13:59:18 PST by jedediah smith
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To: TommyDale

This is my bank too, and to top it I'm a NASCAR fan.

maybe it's just a payoff for allowing the merger : )

43 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:00:35 PST by Leper Messiah
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To: Nita Nupress

Well, now. Isn't this the miner's canary? Nita, this is very scarey...and I DO NOT BELIEVE in coincidences...anymore than I would believe that Jr. would recklessly follow his dad into a wall................

44 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:00:44 PST by FrostFire
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To: jedediah smith

Are we talking about the same Springs? Springs Industries based in SC?

45 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:25:33 PST by PJeffQ
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To: TommyDale

How this story remained off the front pages in the Raleigh area is obvious -- there are just too many Rick Hendrick friends. This is not questioning Hendrick's pardon, but the apparent payoff to Clinton by the Bank of America CEO.

Imagine how in-the-dark Charlotte is...

46 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:29:00 PST by NoDemocratsIn2000 (One of the Things You Won't Hear at the Charlotte Speedway!)
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To: blackdog

Related story on letter written by Dan Burton to David Kendall was just posted and contains this paragraph...

Third, I intend to subpoena Regions Bank and Bank of America, where the Clinton Library maintains accounts, for their bank records relating to the Clinton Library. These records should reveal at least some of the individuals who have contributed to the Clinton Library.

Dan Burton Replies to David Kendall (The Hammer is Falling)

That Bank of America connection just keeps popping up! How much you want to bet that BoA is cooking the books as we speak.

47 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:37:06 PST by ravingnutter
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

"Third, I intend to subpoena Regions Bank and Bank of America, where the Clinton Library maintains accounts, for their bank records relating to the Clinton Library. These records should reveal at least some of the individuals who have contributed to the Clinton Library."

Dan Burton Replies to David Kendall (The Hammer is Falling)

Is that enough of a connection?

48 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:41:00 PST by ravingnutter
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To: DB

Be careful... BofA has given $500k to Reagan's and Bush's library as well. At least they are being consistent. Had it been only Clinton's library I would agree with you. By doing the same thing for every Ex-President they are being "nonpartisan".

That may very well be true, but I do not believe that Reagan and Bush used their library fund to launder monies.

49 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:49:17 PST by Conservobabe (sgraham@igateway.net)
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To: PJeffQ

Yes, that is Springs Industries in Fort Mill, SC. The family owns just about the whole town. (also where Jim and Tammy Baker used to roam)

50 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:55:55 PST by blackdog
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To: Tarheel

Erskine Bowles

Or as Rush calls him, "Irksome Bowels"

51 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:56:01 PST by Inspectorette
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To: TomB

Easy now, TomB!! Just repeatin' what my dad said. I never claimed he was right, just that he thought Hendrick was dishonest.

52 Posted on 02/26/2001 14:56:20 PST by bearsgirl90
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

On another thread, you mentioned a $500G payoff discussed on Fox. I think this is to what they are referring...

53 Posted on 02/26/2001 15:16:20 PST by eureka!
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To: Malesherbes

Why do you still bank with them?

54 Posted on 02/26/2001 15:21:04 PST by BnBlFlag
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To: TomB

How do you "fake" leukemia?

You have your doctor write a letter to the court.

You give your doctor a jag or benz.

You get better.

55 Posted on 02/26/2001 16:00:44 PST by ninonitti
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To: Conservobabe

Agreed, but BofA was being consistent. I'd rather they hadn't given any money to Clinton's library because he's a crook. But by being consistent doesn't make BofA crooks.

56 Posted on 02/26/2001 16:07:28 PST by DB
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To: BnBlFlag

I bank with them because the have he best electronic banking in the industry. Other than that, no good reason...

57 Posted on 02/26/2001 16:13:42 PST by DB
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To: DB

"But by being consistent doesn't make BofA crooks."

Maybe not, but buying a Presidential Pardon sure does!

58 Posted on 02/26/2001 16:24:19 PST by TommyDale
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To: dirtboy

Amadeo Gianini must be turning over in his grave. Ciao, Max

59 Posted on 02/26/2001 16:24:48 PST by max epr (maxepr@webspan.net)
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To: TommyDale

A link to a Bank of America press release:
Dec. 7 2000, McColl speech at the Little Rock Regional Chamber of Commerce 2000 Annual Meeting, including the donation to Clinton Library

60 Posted on 02/26/2001 16:27:50 PST by Enlightiator
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To: TommyDale

"Rick Hendrick, owner of a major car dealership and NASCAR team owner..."

Don't take your bets off of Jeff Gordon or Terry Labonte yet though.

61 Posted on 02/26/2001 16:43:57 PST by Rockinfreakapotamus (Earnhardt was the Elvis of auto racing)
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To: Rockinfreakapotamus

Jeff Gordon is a good conservative and had no part. his rich owner though is a criminal. if it wasn't for his cancer he would not be the owner of the team. I belive he got to leave jail because he had cacer.

62 Posted on 02/26/2001 16:57:00 PST by Jeff Gordon Fan
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To: Jeff Gordon Fan

Thanks - that's good to know about Gordon cause he's a class act (as are all NASCAR drivers except mister excrement, a-hole Jimmy Spencer). Anyway, hmmm - I wonder if Pappa Hendrick, Nadeau's owner, was a Krinton kontributor too?

63 Posted on 02/26/2001 17:25:16 PST by Rockinfreakapotamus
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To: DB

Your right, If Bank of America gave the same amount to Reagan's and Bush's library, this donation can not be used as an example of payoff.

64 Posted on 02/26/2001 17:37:00 PST by kempo
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To: kempo

It can if it resulted in the quid pro quo of obtaining a Presidential Pardon...

65 Posted on 02/26/2001 17:42:41 PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

I have been a little wary of proclaiming there was definitely pardons for money even though I thought there probably was just to give the benefit of the doubt and not to jump the gun. But this, this is serious evidence here because first there was a letter to the President about the pardon, then later there was an announcement a huge sum would be given to the Clinton Library Foundation. And, of course later on Clinton gave the pardon. Can anyone think of any valid reasons for doing so in this case? I just wish we knew what was in the letter that McColl wrote. This certainly looks on the surface at least to be criminal on the part of Clinton. I hope that scum gets tossed behind bars for a long time.

66 Posted on 02/26/2001 17:47:10 PST by rwfromkansas
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To: TomB

Here's an interesting aside, did you know that benezene is known to cause leukemia? I have noticed what seems to be a definite increase the cases of leukemia in middle aged people. Leukemia used to be thought of as a young person's disease.

67 Posted on 02/26/2001 17:56:35 PST by Eva
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To: rwfromkansas

Except BofA gave the same amount to Reagan's and Bush's libraries previously...

68 Posted on 02/26/2001 20:23:28 PST by DB
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To: DB

Except neither Reagan nor Bush pardoned anyone as a result!

69 Posted on 02/26/2001 20:47:17 PST by TommyDale
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To: PJeffQ

I assume so. I think I read somewhere that in the last election the SC incumbent Republican was predicted to defeat the Democratic challenger, Hodges, but there was an upset. If Hodges worked for Springs, then apparently he was a pawn backed by the Rothschilds. They probably put him in office through vote fraud. If the following excerpt is true, then it all makes sense (from pp. 190-193 of Icke's "The Biggest Secret"):

"But there is also a French connection to this. There usually is with London and Paris the main operational centres for the Brotherhood. Many times the French and English wings have battled for supremecy, but they are still, in the end, two sides of the same coin. The French Revolution of 1789 (the year George Washington became the first US President) was wholly engineered by the Freemasons and their offshoot, the Bavarian Illuminati…After the 'revolutionaries' executed Queen Marie Antoinette, her son, Crown Prince Louis, still a toddler, was placed under house arrest at the Paris Temple. Two years later he was smuggled out in a laundry basket by his doctor, Dr. Naudin. The retarded nephew of the Marquis de Jarjayes was substituted and he died in 1795. The prince was secretly taken to the Vendee Palace and given sanctuary by Prince Conde. He was later moved to a fortress on the River Rhine where he lived under the name of Baron de Richemont. He arrived in England in February 1804 with the former royal paymaster of France, George Payseur, and was protected by King George III, the monarch at the time of the American War of Independence. The Prince changed his name again to Daniel Payseur while George Payseur became George Bayshore. King George III gave the prince, now Daniel Payseur, a ship and awarded George Bayshore 600 acres of land in North Carolina. When they arrived in America they were given help by the Boddie family, who were related to the British monarchy. Before leaving England, the prince bought shares in the Virginia Company and once in America he acquired gold mines, including Gold Hill Mining Company, which he purchased secretly using a trustee, George Newman, as his frontman or proxy. With the invention of the steam engine, Payseur began to build railroads and leased them to operating companies. He also established the Lancaster Manufacturing Company to produce timber for railroad products and the Lincolnton Iron Company which later located in Chicago and formed two subsidiaries, Carnegie Steel and Pullman Standard Company (the Virginia Company of which Payseur was a shareholder) allocated all land extending 100 feet either side of the tracks. Much larger areas of land alongside the railroads were also broken up into sections some ten miles square and a half of these were given to Payseur who also bought up many others. Thus he and the railroads owned some of America's prime real estate. Much of this legislation is in the 1854 Congressional Record. The Payseur's Lancaster Railway was, through the Alabama Mineral Company, the controller of Coca Cola, Pepsi Cola, General Motors, Boeing, Ford and Standard Oil.

"After the manipulated American Civil War in the 1860s, all railroads and real estate owned by the supporters of the losers, the southern Confederates, were confiscated and auctioned off at Wilmington, North Carolina. They were bought by nine trustees of Daniel Payseur at extremely low prices. A deed of trust was signed in Nashville between the railroad owners and the government establishing the United States Military Railroad system which granted the developers a monopoly over transport and communications. All these agreements still apply. Payseur's chief trustee and general manager was a Rothschild relative called Leroy Springs, formerly Leroy Springstein. It appears that Leroy Springs was a half brother to the American President, Abraham Lincoln. A lady called Nancy Hanks gave birth to a son in 1808 after an affair with Spring's father. In his will his father left a large area of land in Huntsville, Alabama, to a son, Abraham Lincoln. Rumours that Lincoln was a Rothschild appear to have a basis in fact. In the 1850s Lincoln's own affair with a daughter of the German monarch Leopold in 1856, produced twin girls, Ella and Emily. One of the descendants of this line was the billionaire, Howard Hughes. Many of the famous American families who appeared to be powerful in their own right turn out to have been leg- men for Payseur and the Virginia Company. Andrew Carnegie was a young employee at a Payseur steelworks who was used to front another company which Payseur called Carnegie Steel. The Vanderbilt family claim that a mansion called Biltmore is their country home. Not true. Biltmore was constructed by the Payseur family as a hotel in the 1880s and it was operated by the Payseur trustees, the Vanderbilts, on a 99 year lease. Another Payseur trustee was J.P. Morgan, one of the most famous industrialists and bankers in American history. He was yet another face behind which those truly in control could hide the extent of their power.

"Many of the major oil and mineral deposits in the US are on land owned by the railroad companies, and Payseur's mineral rights were transferred to petrol and mining companies in exchange for a controlling shareholding. Other rights were leased to timber companies. After Daniel Payseur died in 1860, his fantastic empire was managed by his grandson, Lewis Cass Payseur, and the expansion continued apace. In 1872, a Payseur company, the Charleston, Cincinatti and Chicago Railroad, established a telegraph company called Western Union. It formed a subsidiary called AT and T in 1875 and today it is one of America's biggest telephone and commuication companies. The Charleston, Cincinatti and Chicago Railroad company is the parent company for the Federal Reserve, the privately owned 'central bank' of the United States. The Payseur empire became heavily involved in banking. Their Bank of Lancaster became the North Carolina Bank and then Nationsbank. The biggest bank in Texas, Interfirst, of which George Bush is a director, merged in 1987 with Republic Bank to form First Republic. This was later absorbed by Nationsbank which then merged with the Bank of America. These two launder CIA drug money and that's appropriate because the forerunner to the CIA, the OSS or Office of Strategic Services, was created from the Payseurs' own security network which was formed by the Selma, Rome and Dalton Railroad to protect the Military Railroad System. It's all wheels within wheels, family with family, and Americans have not a clue who really runs their lives and their country. The question is who controlled the Payseurs?

"The Payseur family have now lost control of their empire, but the same reptilian tribe are still at the helm. The Payseur's principal trustee, Leroy Springs, died in 1931 and his playboy son, Elliot, took over. He volunteered to upgrade the local County Records filing system and removed the records from the Lancaster courthouse. When he returned them, hundreds of Payseur land deeds had been reassigned to Elliot Springs, a Rothschild relative. It seems obvious that he was told exactly what to do to stop the Payseur daughters inheriting the empire. In the early 1950s, Anne, the daughter of Elliot Springs, married a New Jersey organised crime figure called Hugh Close and Close was appointed chairman of all the Payseur companies stolen by Elliot Springs. Close's daughter, Mrs. Crandall Close Bowles [any relation to Erskine Bowles?-JS], became a director of the Carolina Federal Reserve Bank. A battle continues for control of the former Payseur holdings, but at the moment it appears they are controlled by the Rothschilds. Some people who think they own land they have purchased from the railroad companies are going to be very disappointed. Their deeds are not legal because the land was not the railroad companies' to sell. It was leased from the Payseur empire. In the end, it is owned by the Virginia Company."

70 Posted on 02/28/2001 06:33:24 PST by jedediah smith
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To: jedediah smith

heavy! where the hell did you find that stuff, jed?

71 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:58:41 PST by thinden
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To: thinden

It comes from The Biggest Secret by David Icke. He may be a disinformation agent for the British monarchy/Committee of 300, because he advances the idea that the world's elite are really lizards, but much of what is in the book appears to be true. The intent may be that if people laugh him off as a nutcase, they won't believe what he says about who really runs America and the world. If he really was working alone and not on somebody's payroll, he would be dead by now.

72 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:47:03 PST by jedediah smith
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To: ninonitti

Sorry, but the court had an independent physician check him out.

73 Posted on 03/01/2001 14:39:49 PST by TomB
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To: TommyDale, blackdog, Tarheel, PJeffQ, Alamo-Girl

It took me awhile to remember the connection and where I had read it, but Alamo-Girl had posted another Clinton murder in N.C., that of David Drye. (Thanks, AG!) From http://www.alamo-girl.com/0363.htm:

Worldnetdaily 8/3/99 Sarah Foster "...Strange, too, was the plane crash, June 14, which took the life of Matrisciana's friend David Drye, a Concord, N.C., builder and well-known businessman, his wife Ann, his vice president of construction and the pilot. The plane -- a two-engine prop -- crashed as it was taking off from Concord Regional Airport. According to the Charlotte Observer, the pilot -- Kelly Ward -- told air traffic controllers that his right engine was losing power just before the accident. "He was a dear friend of mine," said Matrisciana, "but the strange thing is that I was scheduled to fly with him to Washington and had to cancel out two hours before I was supposed to meet him in North Carolina. He made other plans and went on the plane. The plane crash was very suspicious -- and it's under investigation." "I can't help but wonder if that crash weren't really for me," said Matrisciana. "There have been so many accidents and unexplained deaths."

I was told that the video "Clinton Chronicles" was funded by David Drye. Perhaps an additional motive for his death was that he knew about the incestuous banking situation among Democratics in NC and had to be taken out?

74 Posted on 03/02/2001 12:36:21 PST by jedediah smith
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To: TomB

Thanks, courts in these parts aren't too swift.

75 Posted on 03/02/2001 16:52:31 PST by ninonitti
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To: jedediah smith

Thanks for the heads up! I'm glad the information was helpful to you!

76 Posted on 03/02/2001 22:08:28 PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ravingnutter

Is that enough of a connection?

What ever happened with those subpoenas? Last I knew the matter seemed to rest with UOx42's LIEbrary still thumbing their nose at them. The subpoenas could provide the link, providing they were accurate (remember who we're dealing with).

77 Posted on 04/19/2001 07:15:08 PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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