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Islam's Black Slaves

News/Current Events News Keywords: ISLAM'S BLACK SLAVES
Source: Salon.com
Published: 04/05/01 Author: Suzy Hansen
Posted on 04/05/2001 14:45:17 PDT by veronica

Islam's Black Slaves By Suzy Hansen

Although slavery seems like an institution from a barbaric and uncivilized past, it survives today in both Sudan and Mauritania. The horrific details of the Atlantic slave trade -- the ruthless slave traders who pillaged Africa, the millions of Africans who died on treacherous sea journeys to America, the resulting "peculiar institution" of cheap, brutalized labor that spawned the Civil War -- weigh heavily on the American conscience. Another slave trade, however, the Islamic one, remains a mysterious aspect in the history of the black diaspora. Fourteen centuries old, this version of slavery spread throughout Africa, the Middle East, Europe, India and China. It is the legacy of this trade that continues to ravage Sudan and Mauritania today.

South African-born Ronald Segal is the author of 13 books including "The Anguish of India," "The Americans" and "The Black Diaspora." In his latest book, "Islam's Black Slaves: The Other Black Diaspora," he offers one of the first historical accounts of the Islamic slave trade. Salon spoke with Segal by telephone from his home in London.

How did the Atlantic and Islamic slave trades differ?

The Atlantic slave trade exclusively used black slaves or agricultural labor on plantations. It started in a very small way in 1450 and ended in the middle of the 19th century. It was the basic labor supply for the plantations in the Americas since the indigenous people had been all but wiped out by a combination of imported diseases and forced labor. The number of slaves who landed alive in the Americas -- it was an important aspect in the development of capitalism, so the numbers are fairly accurate and organized by merchant banks and investors with stock market quotations -- was something like 10,600,000. Slaves became so cheap that it was more profitable to work them to death and buy new ones than to try to keep your labor supply alive. For example, some of the mortality rates in San Domingue -- which became, after the only successful slave revolution in history, Haiti -- were quite staggering.

Slaves in the Atlantic trade came to be kept and regarded as units of labor, not as people. This was almost formalized by categorizing slaves as "pieces of the Indies." A male slave, able-bodied and in the prime of his life, was defined as a "piece of the Indies," and the other slaves, the women and children, were defined as "pieces of pieces of the Indies." That gives you an idea of how the exploitation of African slaves was rationalized in the West.

But not in Islam?

The slave trade in Islam was seriously different. It began in the middle of the seventh century and survives today in Mauritania and Sudan. With the Islamic slave trade, we're talking of 14 centuries rather than four.

Whereas the gender ratio of slaves in the Atlantic trade was two males to every female, in the Islamic trade, it was two females to every male. Very large numbers of slaves were used for domestic purposes. Concubinage was for those who could afford it and there was no disrepute attached to having women as sexual objects. In fact, they married them. Some harems could be enormous. One ruler had 14,000 concubines. In one respect, women slaves were a status symbol. I hate to say it this way, but it's comparable to the way people in the West collect motorcars.

The male slaves were used for the more exacting physical jobs in homes and palaces: porters, messengers, doorkeepers. In various places, from Islamic Spain to Egypt to Libya, there were black slaves used as soldiers. In Morocco, there was a whole generation of black slaves who became the army of Morocco, in which the young boys were bought at the age of 10 or 11 and trained in horse handling and military skills of various kinds. Young female slaves were instructed in household crafts and were then provided with resources to buy a home and get married.

What about eunuchs?

Strictly speaking, in Islam, castration was against the law. I don't think it was in the Koran, I think it was a hadith -- a saying attributed to the prophets -- which says he who castrates a slave will himself be castrated. But they got around this as people do. One contrivance was to buy already castrated slaves. Another was to employ those who were not Muslims to perform the operation. But then even these contrivances came to be abandoned and dealers would perform the operation themselves along the route. The mortality rates were absolutely huge.

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1 Posted on 04/05/2001 14:45:17 PDT by veronica
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To: A+Bert zion_ist Lent veronica dennisw Sabramerican Nachum xm177e2

FYI.

2 Posted on 04/05/2001 14:46:29 PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

the millions of Africans who died on treacherous sea journeys to America

Um, sorry, but hasn't this silly myth been debunked? Shouldn't these read "thousands"? Hasn't it been figured out that "millions" of slaves would've taken hundreds of years to transport, and so "millions dead" is an impossible number to have occurred?

Or am I not seeing some new piece of data that has come to light?

3 Posted on 04/05/2001 14:56:57 PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay

You know numbers are not really important in terms of accuracy...their importance lies (nice double entendre) in their impact!-)

4 Posted on 04/05/2001 15:04:22 PDT by beowolf
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To: Illbay

Agreed. It's the Islamic angle that interests me.

5 Posted on 04/05/2001 15:05:32 PDT by veronica
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To: ALL

"The institution of slavery is sanctioned in the Koran. To say that the Koran is in any way opposed to the institution of slavery would be wrong. It is never recommended, but it is influentially and explicitly benevolent in its attitude to the poor, the orphaned and slaves. And there is a specific injunction that to free a slave is an act of piety, which has its due reward in the other life."

6 Posted on 04/05/2001 15:07:02 PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

The institution of slavery is sanctioned in the Koran.

Er, well, it's sanctioned in the Bible, too.

7 Posted on 04/05/2001 15:17:33 PDT by Illbay
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To: veronica

Islam (previously known as mohammadism) spread fundamentaly by war and conquest... it became a world religion by subjugating people and forcing them to either convert or die... it wasn't a matter of subtle coercion, it wasn't a matter of a fringe group doing this, it was the planned spread systematically throughout the world during mohammeds life by him in this way.... Why would anyone be shocked that a religion that had this at its core would be behaving in any other way today?

8 Posted on 04/05/2001 15:22:19 PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: veronica

Good article. Herein is the perpetual lie of Islam and its false history of beneficience to its conquered peoples. Indeed, Islam has not learned from its Jihadic and hegemonic past and it has not learned from the hegemonic past of Christendom. That's because the Koran does not condition the Jihad and the subjugation of peoples. It is a prescriptive element in the Koran.

9 Posted on 04/05/2001 15:23:07 PDT by Lent
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To: HamiltonJay

how is this different than Christianity... the crusades, the inquisition...?

10 Posted on 04/05/2001 15:31:10 PDT by MalleusMaleficarum
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To: Lent

"Jihad" as defined in the Qu'ran, does not mean what many in the West mistakenly think it to mean.

It means a "struggle against self." True, some extremists may have bent and twisted its meaning in very recent years to mean something different, but that is what it has meant for the thousands of years of the Qu'ran's existence.

Sorry that you are so blindly and hatefully prejudiced against hundreds of millions of people because of the rash and desperate acts of a relative handful.

11 Posted on 04/05/2001 15:32:07 PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay

It is hardly a handfull,that is the problem.

12 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:12:40 PDT by Nachum
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To: HamiltonJay

Why would anyone be shocked that a religion that had this at its core would be behaving in any other way today?

Noone that knows the history is shocked. That is what the difference is...those that know the history, and those that don't.

13 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:18:55 PDT by beowolf
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To: veronica

In Islam the children of the "master" and his slave woman were full brothers and sisters to his other children with a claim on the father and all rights under law. That changes the status of the mother considerably. In that way it differs from the practice of slavery in the US and slavery under Judiasm.

14 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:21:10 PDT by sawgrass
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To: HamiltonJay

Hamilton, why don't you read the history of Spain under the 900 years of domination by the Moors? You will discover that you are absolutely wrong in your assumptions.

15 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:23:08 PDT by sawgrass
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To: sawgrass

Ahhh, don't want to bring this up, but what about reparations?

16 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:35:40 PDT by alaskanfan
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To: MalleusMaleficarum

The inquisition and the crusades were not the birthplace of Christianity. Jesus himself did not spread his teachings through war... while there were followers down the line who did indeed engage in holy wars, the founder of the religion himself did not use or advocate violence for its dissemination... The crusades did not happen till 14-15 centuries after the founding of the religion, the inquisition as well.

Islam was spread from day one by the religions founder through war and death, he condoned it and engaged directly in it. He believe he was ordained by allah to convert the world and slaughter the heathens... and did so.

You are attempting to equate apples and oranges.

17 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:37:45 PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: sawgrass

Why don't you go research the biography and life of Mohammed and you will see indeed that I am right.

18 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:39:17 PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: l8pilot, right winger, stand watie

...brutalized labor that spawned the Civil War

Excuse me, Ms. Hansen, but where did you get your education, K-mart? The War of Northern Agression was not spawned over slavery.

19 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:44:52 PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: Illbay

Another myth is this quote,"Was America so economically powerful because it exploited its cheap slave labor more brutally than any other leading empire -- such as the Ottoman?". The America that received slaves from 1610 to 1810 when the slave trade was at its zenith, was South America and the Caribbean. Of the 10 million slaves exported in those 200 years, 20% didn't make it. That's 2 million. 50% went to South America, 42% went to the Caribbean, and only between 5 & 7% went to Norh America. If slavery was such a great economic deal, why are the two places were most of them ended up in the New World, so poor?

If you look at the populations of the US and the rest of the Americas, the brutality here yielded a much more numerous black population from fewer forced immigrants. Would they have thrived better back in West Africa?

20 Posted on 04/05/2001 16:58:11 PDT by JeanLM
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To: HamiltonJay

Mohammed was dead before 700 AD..

21 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:01:06 PDT by sawgrass
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To: JeanLM

If slavery was such a great economic deal, why are the two places were most of them ended up in the New World, so poor?

And, in fact, aside from about 3,000 or so slaveholders in the South who did end up with a "pretty penny" or so to spare, slavery was pretty much a bust for the average Southerner as well.

Perhaps one reason is that "cheap labor" of that sort leads to a very depressed non-slave underclass. Without honest labor to ennoble the humble worker, and provide him a way to make his start in life, there's not much to aspire to.

The biggest dream of the young man NOT of the leisure classes in the South, was to somehow get himself a slave or two. That was the only way he could "be somebody" in that semi-feudal society.

22 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:05:15 PDT by Illbay
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To: Nachum

Sorry, but relatively speaking, it is. The number of "extremist" muslims who want to die for Allah and glory is very small compared to the nearly 2 Billion who practice that religion.

In fact, if Islam REALLY wanted to put the world to the sword, right now, they could do it with sheer numbers alone.

I simply hate to see us smug Americans wallowing in our bigotry regarding the nature of Islam. It is a noble religion with a noble history.

That a few people have managed to twist it to nefarious ends does not negate that, any more than the Inquisition is the summum bonum of Christianity.

23 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:08:22 PDT by Illbay
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To: Ironword

FYI

24 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:09:02 PDT by aposiopetic
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To: sawgrass

From the Seventh Century A.D. until the late Fifteenth, the Jews of Spain were among the wealthiest, most industrious and enlightened people on Earth.

Suddenly, it all ended in blood and fire for them.

What happened?

Ferdinand and Isabela ejected the Moors from Spain, the Roman Catholic Church became the state religion, and the Jews were put to the Inquisition, and decimated.

Thousands were forced to convert to Christianity or die.

Ultimately, only a handful were allowed to remain and continue to observe their religion, only because Isabela saw that they would be needed as money-lenders to finance Spanish expansionism, and at that time the Church forbade any Christian to lend money at interest.

So, who is it that is "enlightened", again?

25 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:13:04 PDT by Illbay
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To: PistolPaknMama

Man, you haven't been here long, have you?

That point has been proven, without doubt, until "stand watie" and the others you're calling to your aid can do nothing but sputter "lies!" and "traitor!"

Yes, the South seceded over slavery, and the Civil War was fought over secession.

Sorry, back to the classroom for you.

26 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:15:18 PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay

LOL.. The history of Spain and Portugal would suprise those who haven't done their homework. Under the Moors the Jews did thrive and prosper.. enough so that when they fled under the Catholic Inquisition many were able to invest in stock in the new Dutch West Indies Company that set about developing sugar plantations in what is now called Brazil.

27 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:22:20 PDT by sawgrass
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To: Illbay

What were the number of executions when the Muslims came to power in Iran? How many people were exiled from Kuwait after the Gulf war. How many Jews were expelled from Muslim countries in 1948?

The answers: 30,000 executed, 750,000 exiled, and over 1,000,000 expelled.

28 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:23:05 PDT by Nachum
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To: sawgrass

Yes, and your point being? Are you trying to insunate because he died before 700AD that what he historically did to spread his religion is irrellevant?

29 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:26:30 PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: veronica

I find it personally inexplicable that the adhesion to Islam within the Black Muslim movement is apparently indifferent to the survival of black slavery within Islam.

Maybe Louis Farakkkhan is a UFO nut who doesn't really care about anyone who isn't a Muslim.

30 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:28:09 PDT by xm177e2
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To: Illbay

Stop lying. You know nothing about the Jihad in your little sanitized version. Here read up and quit bugging me with your phony "take" on Islam:

Jihad, the Arab Conquests and the

                                        Position of Non-Muslim Subjects

                                     Apologists of Islam still insist on perpetuating the myth of an
                                     Islam which accorded equality to her non-Muslim subjects, they
                                     talk of a time when all the various religious communities lived in
                                     perfect harmony in the Islamic lands. The same apologists
                                     minimize, or even excuse, the persecution, the discrimination, the
                                     forced conversions, the massacres, the destruction of the
                                     churches, synagogues, fire temples and other places of worship.
                                     This rosy but totally false picture of Islam is also built up by

                                          (1) ignoring the destruction and the massacres
                                          during the actual process of the  Arab conquests;

                                          (2) by concentrating almost exclusively on the fate
                                          of Jews and Christians, and consequently
                                          dismissing the fate of idolaters (are they not
                                          human?), Zoroastrians, Hindus and Buddhists

                                          (3) by relying on Muslim sources, as though they
                                          are bound to be less biased!

                                          (4) by ignoring, or excusing the appalling behaviour
                                          of the Prophet towards the Jews;

                                          (5) by ignoring the intolerant, hostile, anti- Jewish,
                                          anti-Christian, and above all, anti-pagan sentiments
                                          expressed in the Koran  which were the source of
                                          much intolerant, fanatical and violent behaviour
                                          throughout the history of Islam against all
                                          non-Muslims.

                                     EARLY ATTITUDES: Muhammad and the Koran

                                     The Koran has been divided into early and late Suras, the
                                     Meccan and Medinan Suras respectively.  Most of  the tolerant
                                     sentiments of Muhammad are to be found in the early, Meccan
                                     Suras:

                                          cix  "Recite: O Unbelievers, I worship not what you
                                          worship, and you do not worship what I worship.  I
                                          shall never worship what you worship. Neither will
                                          you worship what I worship. To you your religion,
                                          to me my religion l.45   "We well know what the
                                          infidels say: but you are not to compel them."

                                          xliii. 88,89 "And [Muhammad] says, "O Lord,
                                          these are people who do not believe." Bear with
                                          them and wish them 'Peace '. In the end they shall
                                          know their folly."

                                     The exceptions are to be found in Sura ii, which is usually
                                     considered Medinan i.e. late:

                                          ii.256 "There is no compulsion in religion";

                                          ii.62"Those who believe [i.e.Muslims] and those
                                          who follow the Jewish scriptures, and the Christians
                                          and the Sabians, and who believe in God and the
                                          Last Day and work righteousness, shall have their
                                          reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear,
                                          nor  shall they grieve."

                                     Unfortunately, as he gained in confidence and increased his
                                     political and military power, Muhammad turned from being a
                                     "persuader to being a legislator and warrior, dictating
                                     obedience." The Medinan chapters such as Suras ix, v, iv, xxii,
                                     xlvii, viii, and ii reveal Muhammad at his most belligerent,
                                     dogmatic and intolerant.

                                      Muslim theologians are unanimous in declaring that no religious
                                     toleration was extended to the idolaters of Arabia at the time of
                                     Muhammad. The only choice given them was death or the
                                     acceptance of Islam. This total intolerance never seems to be
                                     taken into consideration by the apologists of Islam when they lay
                                     claims to Islamic tolerance.  Unbelievers in general are shown no
                                     mercy in the Koran which is full of lurid descriptions of the
                                     punishments awaiting them.  xxii.9:"As for the unbelievers for
                                     them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over
                                     their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels
                                     and skins shall be dissolved and they will be punished with
                                     hooked iron- rods.  The Koran also enjoins all Muslims to fight
                                     and kill non-believers: xlvii.4: "When you meet the unbelievers,
                                     strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter
                                     among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

                                     CHRISTIANS AND JEWS IN THE KORAN

                                     Christians are marginally better regarded than the Jews, but the
                                     Koran still accuses them of falsifying the scriptures.

                                          v.75:" They surely are infidels who say, "God is the
                                          third of three"; for there is but one God; and if they
                                          do not refrain from what they say, a severe
                                          punishment shall light on those who are
                                          unbelievers."

                                     They are also accused of worshipping Jesus as the son of God,
                                     and like the Jews, they have been led astray and must be brought
                                     back to the true religion, that is, Islam.

                                     According to the Koran, Jews have intense hatred of all true
                                     Muslims, and as a punishments for their sins, some of them had,
                                     in the past, been changed into apes and swine (Sura v.63), and
                                     others will have their hands tied to their necks and be cast into
                                     the Fire on Judgment day.  The attitude enjoined upon the
                                     Muslims towards the Jews can only be described as
                                     anti-Semitic, and certainly was not conducive to a better
                                     understanding, tolerance or co- existence.

                                          v.51: Believers, do not take Jews or Christians as
                                          friends They are but one another's friends. If
                                          anyone of you takes them for his friends, then he is
                                          surely one of them. God will not guide evil-doers."

                                          v.56_64: O Believers, do not take as your friends
                                          the infidels or those who received the Scriptures
                                          before you [Jews and Christians] and who scoff
                                          and jest at your religion, but fear God if you are
                                          believers.  Nor those who when you call them to
                                          Institute for the Secularisation of Islaic Society

31 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:39:21 PDT by Lent
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To: Illbay

JIHAD - PAST AND PRESENT

The word Jihad comes from the Arabic word jahada, which as Lane in his celebrated Arabic –English Lexicon points out, means "He strove, laboured, or toiled; exerted himself or his power or efforts or endeavours or ability" Jihad, continues Lane, "properly signifies using or exerting, one's utmost power, efforts, endeavours, or ability, in contending with an object of disapprobation, and this of three kinds, namely, a visible enemy, the devil, and one’s self; all of which are included in the Koran sura xxii.78. …Jihad came to be used by the Muslims to signify generally he fought, warred, or waged war, against unbelievers and the like ."[1] [Emphasis added]

As Tyan in his article in the EI˛ (Djihad, I.538 ff.) makes clear, "in law, according to general doctrine and in historical tradition, the jihad consists of military action with the object of the expansion of Islam and, if need be, of its defence"[emphasis added]. Tyan expressly rules out the thesis of a wholly apologetic character, according to which Islam relies on peaceful expansion, and that jihad is only authorized in cases of self-defence. This thesis ignores entirely the doctrines developed by Muslim theologians, the historical tradition, as well as texts of the Koran and sunna. Another scholar, Rudolph Peters [2], also emphasizes that Classical Muslim Koran interpretation regarded the Sword Verses of the Koran (see below), with uncoditional command to fight the unbelievers,as having abrogated all previous verses concerning relations with non-Muslims.

Koran VIII.60

Here are some hadith from Bukhari, Muslim and other traditionists:

Bukhari [3] LI.1: "Verily Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for theirs (in return) is Paradise.They fight in His cause, so they kill (others) and are killed…"[using forms of the verb " qatala" = to kill]

Bukhari:[4] LI.2 "Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard Allah’s Messenger saying, "The example of a Mujahid in Allah’s cause – and Allah knows better who really strives in His cause – is like a person who fasts and prays continuously.Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty."

Bukhari: [5] LI. 6 Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said, ‘Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah …would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom,would like to come back to the world and get killed again."

Bukhari: [6] LI.22.Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu’ba:: Our Prophet told us about the message of our Lord that "… whoever amongst us is killed will go to Paradise" ‘Umar asked the Prophet, ‘Is it not true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and theirs will go to the fire?’ The Prophet said ‘Yes ’.

Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Abi Aufa, Allah’s Messenger said, "Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords." [meaning « under the protection of swords."]

Bukhari: [7] Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Messenger said, "Allah welcomes two men with a smile; one whom kills the other and both of them enter Paradise. One fights in Allah’s cause and gets killed. Later on Allah forgives the killer who also gets martyred (in Allah’s cause)."

Bukhari [8]: Narrated as-Sa’b bin Jaththama: The Prophet passed by me at a place called al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They are from them." [i.e. the women and children are also pagans, hence it is permissible to kill them. However there are other hadith which do forbid the killing of women and children.]

Even a cursory glance at the chapter on Jihad (Vol.IV, pp. 34-199) in Bukhari is enough to show that real battles, deaths, wounds, horses, swords, arrows, prisoners of war, looting, booty, burning and destruction are being referred to. Hadith after hadith recount in horrible details as to how the Jihad against infidels was to be carried out; no they do not talk of metaphorical battles, or allegorical, spiritual struggles, but bloody war.

Sunan Abu Dawud,[9] Kitab al –Jihad:

(2632) Ayas b.Salamah reported on the authority of his father: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed Abu Bakr our commander and we fought with some people who were polytheists, and we attacked them at night, killing them. Our war-cry that night was ‘ put to death; put to death’. Salamah said: "I killed that night with my hand polytheists belonging to seven houses." (2664) Samurah b. Jundub reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: « Kill the old men who are polytheists, but spare their children."[10] Sahih Muslim [11] (4292); The Messenger of Allah made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water.He killed those who fought and imprisoned the others.

Sahih Muslim: (4294) If they (the enemy) refuse to accept Islam, demand from the Jizya; If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.

Averroes [12]: "Scholars agree that jihad is collective not a personal obligation.... According to the majority of scholars, the compulsory nature of the jihad is founded on sura 2:216 ‘Prescribed for you is fighting, though it be hateful to you.’ … Scholars agree that al polytheists should be fought. This is founded on sura 8:39 ‘Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely."

Averroes: Par. 3. The Damage Allowed to be inflicted Upon the Different Categories of Enemies. Damage inflicted upon the enemy may consist in damage to his property, injury to his person or violation of his personal liberty, i.e. that he is made a slave and is appropriated. This may be done, according to the Consensus (ijma') to all polytheists: men, women, young and old, important and unimportant. Only with regard to monks do opinions vary; for some take it that they must be left in peace and that they must not be captured, but allowed to go unscathed and that they may not be enslaved. In support of their opinion they bring forward the words of the Prophet: 'Leave them in peace and also that to which they have dedicated them-selves, as well as the practice of Abu Bakr.

Most scholars are agreed that, in his dealings with captives, various policies are open to the Imam [head of the Islamic state, caliph]. He may pardon them, enslave them, kill them, or release them either on ransom or as dhimmi [non-Moslem subject of the Islamic state], in which latter case the released captive is obliged to pay poll-tax (jizya). Some scholars, however, have taught that captives may never be slain. According to al-Hasan Ibn Muhammad al-Tarri-1m71,11 this was even the Consensus ijma‘of the Sahaba [contemporaries of Mohammed that have known him]. This controversy has arisen because, firstly, the Koran-verses contradict each other in this respect; secondly, practice [of the Prophet and the first caliphs] was inconsistent; and lastly, the obvious interpretation of the Koran is at variance with the Prophet's deeds. The obvious interpretation of [47:41: 'When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds" is that the Imam is only entitled to pardon captives or to release them on ransom. On the other hand, 18:671: 'It is not for any Prophet to have prisoners until he make wide slaughter in the land, as well as the occasion when this verse was revealed [viz. the captives of Badr] would go to prove that it is better to slay captives than to enslave them. The Prophet himself would in some cases slay captives outside the field of battle, while he would pardon them in others. Women he used to enslave. Abu Ubayd has related that the Prophet never enslaved male Arabs.

Ibn Khaldun [13]: In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and the obligation to convert everybody either by persuasion or by force.

The totalitarian nature of Islam is no where more apparent than in the concept of Jihad, the Holy War, whose ultimate aim is to conquer the entire world and submit it to the one true faith, to the law of Allah. To Islam alone has been granted the truth - there is no possibility of salvation outside it. It is the sacred duty - an incumbent religious duty established in the Koran and the Traditions - of all Muslims to bring it to all humanity. Jihad is a divine institution, enjoined specially for the purpose of advancing Islam. Muslims must strive, fight and kill in the name of God:

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32 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:48:36 PDT by Lent
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To: Illbay

Here is a sight from Hindus. They know all about the brutality of Islam. Put away your elementary school education.

Anwar Shaikh: What is Islam all about?  

What is

ISLAM

all about?


 
Islam is the most violent and intolerant faith that has ever been presented to mankind. Those, who hold this view usually quote, The Disputer, LVIII: 20, which declares that non-Muslims are Satan's party but the Muslims are God's party. Thus, it is the most sacred duty of the Muslims to annihilate the non-Muslims or at least reduce them to the status of tributaries.

On the contrary, the enlightened Muslims protest against this non-Muslim attitude: they quote Sufism to prove that Islam is an international ambassador of love. Of course, there is some truth in it, but who deserves the credit - Islam or Hinduism?

Basing his judgement on the historical and scriptural evidence, Anwar Shaikh concludes that what is called Sufism or Tasawwuf, collides with the basic principles of Islam, but it does conform to the Vedic doctrines. Therefore, Sufism, broadly speaking, is an offshoot of Hindutva. Then, why is it considered an extension or Islam? 

Mysticism or Sufism is an international faith, which is deeply rooted in the vedic philosophy. It is a pity that the people of India have forgotten all about their ancestral glory. 

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33 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:51:55 PDT by Lent
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To: Illbay,nachum,veronica,ALL

CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM


         GLOBAL ISLAMIC JIHAD AGAINST CHRISTIANITY


I. GENERAL SIGHTS ON ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY


1. CHRISTIAN SOLIDARITY INTERNATIONAL
2. INTERNATIONAL CHRISTIAN CONCERN
3. THE VOICE OF THE MARTYRS INC. (CANADA)
4. PERSECUTION.COM (U.S.A.)
5. RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN THE MAJORITY ISLAMIC COUNTRIES
6. INTERNATIONAL PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS (LINKS)
7. PROJECT OPEN BOOK (CHRONICLES PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS IN ISLAMIC WORLD WITH LINKS)
8. ANSWERING ISLAM
PERSECUTION OF EASTERN CHRISTIANS UNDER ISLAM THROUGH HISTORY
10 ISLAM ATTACKS THE BIBLE AND CHRISTIANITY


II. TERRORISM HOT-SPOTS (GENERAL)


1. THE INTERNATIONAL POLICY INSTITUTE FOR COUNTER-TERRORISM
    (good general information on international terrorism including Islamic terrorism)


IIIISLAM IN THE BALKANS, CAUCASUS, RUSSIA


1. Islam - Its Role in the Yugoslav Wars
2. The Roots of Kosovo Fascism
    i) Kosovo - Clinton Propaganda vs Eye Witness E-mail War Correspondents
   ii) Kosovo - Desecration by Albanian Muslim Terrorists
   iii) Desecration of Orthodox Churches and Monastries
3.The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection
4. The Bosnian Nasir Oric Connection
    i) Nasir Oric and His War Trophies
   ii) Still More Evidence - Was the Srebrenica Massacre a Hoax?
  iii) Bosnia: Enslaving Christians for the Sake of Muslims
5. Chechnya - The True Soldiers of God
    i) Who are these Jihadists? Their Web Sight
  ii) Christian Persecution by Islam in Chechnya
  iii) Chechen Militants and the Palestinian Intifada (from ICT sight)
6. Dagestan - Islamic Guerillas


IV. ISLAM IN LEBANON


1. THE ISLAMIC PLAN TO TERMINATE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN IDENTITY IN LEBANON
(under 'Lebanese and Middle Eastern Studies')
2. FROM ISRAEL TO DAMASCUS
(online book which chronicles the PLO, Syrian, Islamic connection in the destruction of Christian Lebanon)
3. THE LEBANON WAR
(a treacherous history of Arab-Islamic deceit to undermine the Israeli -Christian Lebanese relationship - particularly fruitful account of Arafat and the PLO involvement in the Lebanese Civil War)


V. ISLAM IN AFRICA


1. AN AFRICAN ASKS SOME DISTURBING QUESTIONS OF ISLAM
2. AFRICA AND ISLAMIC REVIVAL
3. Sudan's Obscure Revolution
    i) Islam in the Medieval Sudan
   ii) Islamic Government Genocide: The Nuba
  iii) A number of excellent links concerning Islamic led Persecution and Genocide in South Sudan
  iv) Why did Christianity Die Out in Northern Sudan
   v) Pariah Politics : What About Sudan?
4. Somalia's Islamic Oppression of Christians
   i) Christian Persecution in Somalia
5. Algeria and Islamic Persecution of Christians
    i) Religious Cleansing in Algeria
6. Egypt - Muslim slaughter of Christians
    i) Muslims kill Coptic Christians in Riot
  ii) Fact Finding Tour Reveals Islamic Persecution of Christians
  iii) Egypt's Unjust Verdict
7. Nigeria - Increasing Islamic Persecution of Christians


VI. ISLAM IN THE MID-EAST


1. Yemen Islamic Persecution
2. Saudi Arabia Islamic Persecution of Christianity
  i) More on Saudi Islamic Persecution
   ii) Follow-up on Arrested Christians
  iii) ICC Report on Saudi-Arabia
  iv) Saudi Arabia's all out War with Christianity within It's Borders
3. Iran -  Persecution of Christians by Islam
   i) Iranian Christians International
4. Iraq - Islamic Persecution of Christians
5. Kuwait Islamic Persecution
6. Christians in Palestinian Authority Persecuted


VII. ISLAM IN ASIA AND S.E. ASIA


1. Indonesia - Islamic Persecution of Christians
    i) Muslim Rioters Burn 25 churches schools and an orphanage
   ii) No End in Sight to Persecution of Christians in East Indonesia
  iii) ICC Report on Islamic Persecution of Christians
2. Pakistan - Islamic Persecution of Christians
 


34 Posted on 04/05/2001 17:56:14 PDT by Lent
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To: Lent

Lent, I ask you again to please lead the fight to keep these heinous Muslims out of our country (the United States). You have proven their evilness. Will you please lead this righteous fight? We must keep them from coming in, and must get those who are here out, before it is too late. I'm begging you. Your (?) country needs you.

35 Posted on 04/05/2001 18:05:02 PDT by AshleyMontagu
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To: Illbay

Tell us what happened to the Jews in Granada in the 11th century. Tell us about the Jews under the Ottoman Empire. It became very bad indeed for them. The canard here though is to suggest the Jews did better under Islam than Christendom. The fact of the matter, is that the Jews alternatively did well (as long as they were good little dhimmis) and did very poorly. For example under Murad III (1574-95) he enforced the discriminatory regulations against the Jews and threatened to slaughter them, eventually extorting a bribe out of them. By then end of the 18th century the Jews were impoverished and holding services in private homes in the Ottoman Empire and the Islamic states.

Here is the point though. Modern day Islam has not learned from the hegemonic sins of Christendom nor from its own sins. It continues, in many places, to perpetuate its oppressive religious practices.

36 Posted on 04/05/2001 18:06:28 PDT by Lent
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To: Lent

Nice bit of research.

37 Posted on 04/05/2001 18:07:00 PDT by Nachum
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To: AshleyMontagu

Fight on AM, fight on. As long as the oppressed are not shut out. This one thing I'll say. In Southern France the mosques now outnumber the churches and there has been an increase of attacks on Jewish synagogues. And guess what? The attacks are not by white supremacists.

38 Posted on 04/05/2001 18:10:06 PDT by Lent
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To: Lent

Well, I knew you'd do it. So will you be writing your congressmen that for the good of the U.S. Islamic immigration must stop? And that something must be done about the Islam Problem before it is too late? This might entail deportations of current Islamic populations before the US succumbs to the problems you have so diligently researched. Again, I claim to know little about Islam and am basing my conclusions upon your work.

39 Posted on 04/05/2001 18:31:11 PDT by AshleyMontagu
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To: Illbay

Not sanctioned, merely mentioned as existing.

40 Posted on 04/05/2001 18:34:56 PDT by brat
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