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Activists who back Taiwan's unification with China staged two separate protests in front of the de facto United States mission Monday, demanding Washington apologize over the spy plane row with Beijing.
An angry man trampled a U.S. flag in front of the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) and pelted it with eggs while his companions chanted anti-U.S. slogans.
The protestor clashed with police who sought to prevent him from burning the flag. He later set alight a protest letter.
Another group called the Great China Unification Alliance also vented its anger, waving banners and placards reading "Overthrow New Version of Militarism" and "Apologize and Compensate to Make Peace".
The group dispersed only after an AIT official accepted a protest letter.
A truck flying a mainland Chinese flag was spotted at the site as hundreds stood in a queue for U.S. entry visas.
The Sino-U.S. standoff was triggered by the April 1 emergency landing on China's Hainan island of a U.S. EP-3 Aries surveillance plane following its collision with a Chinese fighter jet.
Taiwan's government has treaded a cautious line over the row, while demanding that U.S. arms sales to Taiwan should not be affected as a consequence.
The United States has been the leading arms supplier to Taiwan despite Washington's switching of diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979. ((c) 2001 Agence France Presse)
well russia has been leading arms supplier to china so what.
Since the idiots in China that want to reunited with the mainland are sympathizing with commie scumbags ... wouldn't they be LEFT wingers ?
Right wingers? Who want unity with China? I think as usual the Frenchies have their directions all wrong. Gauche, boys, not droite. The droites in Taiwan hate the commies.
"Right wingers", hehe.
Best regards. S&W R.I.P.
"An angry man trampled a U.S. flag in front of the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) and pelted it with eggs while his companions chanted anti-U.S. slogans."
The next weapons transfer could be sling-shots! Not Ageis Missile Boats.
On behalf of the Taiwanese intelligence and police community I would like to thank every idiot that showed up
Nah. Left usually refers to progressive element which is the pro-independence DPP, whereas right usually refers to the pro-status-quo element which is the rest.
Activists who back Taiwan's unification with China staged two separate protests in front of the de facto United States mission Monday, demanding Washington apologize over the spy plane row with Beijing.
Don't believe it!!!
I know the Taiwanese people well. They are very pro-American and anti-communist.
75% of Taiwanese want neither independence nor reunification. As long as they are free, they are willing to live under an ambiguous system.
20% want outright independence.
5% want reunification. (less than 1% would accept reunification on China's terms)
Taiwan's official terms for reunification(as stated by ex-President Lee) would make reunification impossible for China during the 21st Century.
1. Mainland China becomes free
2. Mainland China becomes as wealthy as Taiwan.
Does anyone remember when the major networks began mentioning that it was the Communist "Right-wingers in the Kremlin" who were against the changes that were occurring, as opposed to the 'Liberal Mr Gorbechev" It lasted a few weeks until American conservatives began screaming bloody murder. With nary an apology the Networks began using the more accurate "hardliners"
I agree. It's just like Korea; most of them are pro-U.S., but a few are anti.
You are correct...these would be left-wingers. Unless, of course, the intent is to decieve the ill-informed through disinformation.
Taiwan Right LEFT-wingers Stage Anti-U.S. Protest Over Spy Plane Issue
right usually refers to the pro-status-quo element
Which makes the Conservatives in many countries such as Canada the socialists, right, since socialism of some degree is already established?
Wouldn't pro-China Taiwanese be left-wing?
The reason the headline reads "Right-Wingers" instead of "Left-Wingers" is that, in CHINESE terms, it is correct. You see, the "right" in China is nationalist: i.e. China First! They naturally want Chinese reunification. The "left" is separatist, i.e. revolutionary. In these terms, "right" and "left" don't mean socialism versus capitalism, but the honor and glory of the Chinese nation versus those who are either separatists or in the pay of "foreign devils."
I hope this clear things up.
Nothing you say clears anything up.
You'd probably be interested in this article
Correct, the dynamics is a little weird if one's not familiar with Taiwanese politics.
The "right wing" of the Nationalist Party or Kumingtung (KMT)and the KMT splintered New Party inherited the strong anti-communist stance of the Nationalist government which lost the Chinese mainland to the communist and retreated to Taiwan in 1949. That's anti-communist, but definitely pro-Chinese nationalism and pro-unification between China and Taiwan, albeit not necessarily under the communist "People's Republic of China" government but as their own, losing side of the Chinese civil war, the "Republic of China" (their slogan was "rise against the communist, recover the mainland!").
The "Left Wing" was the locally grown pro-Taiwan Independance movement that wants nothing to do with unification with China, Republic of or People's republic of, regardless of the form of the government in China. the "left wing" sees China as the land their ancestors left hundreds of years ago but one that they have no attachment to now. The pro-independance Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) was in fact illeagal during much of the Nationlist's rule from 1945 to the mid-90's. The current DPP president of Taiwan even served jail terms during the Nationalist/KMT martial law based rule for sedition due to his pro-independance views.
The pro-independence DPP became legit as Taiwan grew into a full blown democracy in the 80's. The "right wing" KMT and NP are still anti-communist, but they're also nationalist who opposes the independence of Taiwan. As the PRC government in mainland China became less "communist", the passion of nationalism has made the "right wing" in Taiwan more pro-China. Not too surprising, since nationalistic passion usually trumps over political idealogy. (yeah, go ahead and flame, the PRC may be many bad things, but a idealogically rigid "communist" they are not", even the anti-communist "right wing" in Taiwan generally see it this way.
And this incident is very much being played for Chinese nationlism, NOT communism. You will notice the language used by the Chinese is very nationalistic in nature, but there is no framing the incident up as a contest between political idealogies.
BTW, the pro-KMT (therefore, anti-communist, right wing, but pro-unification with China, got that?) United Daily newspaper in Taiwan ran a story quoting Taiwanese airforce pilots who supported the Chinese pilot's description of the EP3's evasive action behavior as comparable to Taiwanese airforce's experience in similar encounters with US survillance flights off the Taiwanese cost - yes, the U.S. does spy on Taiwan too, to collect SIGINT on Taiwan's French Mirage 2000-5's and Matra and Magic missles, also to monitor test firings of Taiwan's own anti-aircraft and intermed-range missles. of course, the Taiwanese pilots did point out that since the Taiwanese pilots are much better trained then the PRC pilots, they never had an "incidents" while escorting the American flights.
Thank you very much, tallhappy.
Best regards. S&W R.I.P.
Please look up the definition of conservative in your dictionary. Conservative - disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or restore traditional ones. Should American Conservatives be looking for a new name?
I concur. Things have really opened up in Taiwan in the last 10 years for something like this to even be allowed to take place. Pro-PRC demonstrators in Taiwan?? Unthinkable 10 years ago.
We need to see about bringing the pilot, Zhao Yu, to trial as the vicious, gangster War Criminal that he is, as soon as possible. If Wang Wei, the other criminal pilot, is still alive, he must also stand trial as a vile War Criminal. For more info, peruse,
The "right wing" KMT and NP are still anti-communist
NP is as pro - Chinese Communist Party as if gets, at least the most well known ones.
Lumping KMT in with the NP gives the NP too much credit and legitimacy. They really are a fringe group, but like in the US where ultra liberals who are not really reflective of society in general dominate the news media, in Taiwan the NP types similarly dominate the media. It is a carryover from martial law days when the media was the government.
But, after all this talk, it may have been leftists who demonstrated, not NP wackos. After the 1999 Belgrade bombing there was a similar protest (of about 10 people -- probably how many were at this protest, compared to 100,000 at "Say No To China" rallys) and I thought they would be NP types, but they were actually leftist communists mainly.
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"Please look up the definition of conservative in your dictionary. Conservative - disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or restore traditional ones. Should American Conservatives be looking for a new name". -------------------------------------------------- Which would make Adolph Hitler, Genghis Khan, Mao and Lenin liberals since they so forcibly changed the status quo and traditions of their times.
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