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South African whites are being viciously attacked and killed, and a media blackout of the crimes has not helped.
Criminals who are usually armed with powerful AK-47 military carbines, of which millions have been left behind in Africa from the local wars of African independence over the past 20-odd years, have been rampaging across the country with little resistance from the authorities.
This is especially true for farmers, against whom a campaign seems to have been launched since the end of apartheid in 1992 that has already left 1,048 people dead (26 percent of whom are black farm workers and their families, and the rest are white commercial farmers and their family members) from more than 5,500 well-armed military-style attacks by groups of young black males.
And under South Africa's new gun control laws, these civilian farmers would no longer be allowed to carry anything larger than a small handgun to defend themselves from such attacks.
The South African government also is engaged in a deliberate criminalization campaign in the news media against its commercial farmers, with media accusations of "racist" acts that, when brought before courts of law or probed by police, have however been proven to be almost totally unfounded.
Last year white farmers were arrested on more than 150 charges ranging from murder to accusations of extremely racist cruelty against farm workers. Yet only one farmer has thus far been found guilty of shooting and injuring a farm worker in anger, for which this white farmer was imprisoned for three years.
In all the other cases, the "witnesses" who made claims to the news media simply could not be found, or when cross-examined in law courts, were found to be lying. Frequently, the armed attacks against commercial farm families are carried out with unusual extremes of cruelty: especially the white men often are tortured for hours, with slow barbed-wire strangulation and deliberate mutilation of their sexual parts while they are alive - and the female members of the white farmers' families are subjected to vicious gang rapes from which they are frequently left infected with HIV-AIDS, including very small children. (More than 55 percent of the South African population has been identified with HIV-AIDS, according to the United Nations.)
Because much of this kind of news remains totally unreported outside the nation because of the South African government's deliberate ban on publication of such crime statistics since July 2000, much of the news focus of censorbug.com has remained on the commercial agricultural situation in that country at the moment.
The crime wave across South Africa has led to economic disaster. South Africa used to be self-sufficient and an exporter of food.
This African country is one of the continent's very few that has always managed to feed its growing population, although it had only 60,000 farmers in 1991. But now South Africa has had to start importing staple foods such as maize for the first time in its history, and this year fewer than 40,000 commercial farmers remain. South Africa now has an estimated population of 46 million people.
Thanks for the article, I hope that this one doesn't get pulled.
The whites might as well leave this and other African nations, as they will someday be forced to anyway (Zimbabwe, etc.). I understand that SA is also suffering from an exodus of educated and affluent blacks. Conditions here will only get worse.
Woe to the conquered.
It will only get pulled if some moron tries to inject "racism" into the debate...this is not about race rather tribelism vs western culture....if a countrys currency value is any indication since Mandela came to power the Rand has gone from parity to the dollor just another worthless piece of paper
The department's affordability study of the arms deal provides a rare insight into an official line on the future of the currency. The study, drafted in late 1999, predicts an inevitable decline - R9,6/$ in 2003/4, R18,5 by 2013/4 and R22,8/$ by 2016/17.
The projections were done by Warburg Dillon Read 'in consultation with the Department of Finance'.
During 1995 the rand hovered around the R3,60 to the dollar level, weathering the abolition of the financial rand. On April 27 1994, when South Africa held its first democratic elections, the rand was at R3,58.
It stood at R4,30/$ at the beginning of 1996, but lost ground in February 1996 after, some argue, the Reserve Bank had allowed it to remain artificially strong. It ended 1996 at R4,70.
I think the real message here is the real results of "gun control"
Thanks for the post_ bump.
"Conditions here will only get worse."---Funny, I said that to my wife the day I read that TUTU got a Nobel Prize...LONG TIME AGO.......
I agree that this is not about racism. But I also know from previous articles about this subject, they don't last long.
This can't be true. They have gun control in South Africa.
Why is race a forbidden topic?
Unless we finally get the courage to discuss race without hate or guilt, we can never address the problems associated with it.
The company I work for is sending me to Capetown for about a week next month. I've been told that the crime rate in Capetown isn't so bad.
Any recommendations for a safe trip?
After Nelson Mandela dies, I expect all hell will break loose in South Africa. He is the only one who has the authority to hold his followers back and rein in the hatred and resentment. It's racist only insofar as skin color makes the various parties more immediately identifiable. Its also the colonized against the colonizers, poor against rich, marxists against working stiffs, and plenty of revolutionary populists who would like a good excuse to stir things up and seize power. How accurate this Newsmax story is, I don't know, but it is certainly a powderkeg.
Blacks want the Whites out of Africa and Arabs want the Israelis out of the Mid East. But at the same time Arabs immigrate to Europe and the US like it was going out of style and Black African immigrate to the EU and the US.
I doubt AIDS is so bad there but after Nelson Madela comes the deluge. They will prolly manage to screw up the gold and diamond mines too.
I agree that it should be discussed. Thats why I follow this type of thread. It's just some people are not able to discuss the subject in a rational way. Once that happens, Jim's house, Jim's rules.
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FEAR NOT, DAN RATHER, TOM BROKAW, PETER JENNINGS, THE SUNDAY TALK SHOWS, AND ALL THE OTHER MAIN STREAM MEDIA WILL BE COVERING THIS SHORTLY - THIS IS REALLY NEWS! OOOOOOOOOOPPS! WAIT A MINUTE - THIS IS "BLACKS KILLING WHITES" SORRY, JUMPED TO A PREMATURE CONCLUSION. THAT IS NOT A CRIME - ONLY WHITES KILLING BLACKS IS A CRIME IN THE MAINSTREAM AMERICAN MEDIA. SORRY FOR THE MISTAKE, PLEASE ACCEPT MY APOLOGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There area few problems talking about race...first Blacks in Africa have nothing in common with American Blacks ...one has been brought up in a western culture the other a tribal culture....one understands the "rule of law" the other "bush justice".
As for blacks being brought up in a western culture they have equal abilities to achive what any white guy can and there are millions of Black Americans that prove this point but you only hear from a few of them.......
Is this the case in Africa ..in a word NO...so long as this myth is pushed this confusion will continue....what the story does not say is in a lot of crimes committed.... various orgins are removed and eaten this is part of there culture....have not heard of this taking place in America....yet :-)
...much of this kind of news remains totally unreported ... because of the South African government's deliberate ban on publication of such crime statistics since July 2000...
That in itself should be international news.
Its not enforced __
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The above quoted forum policy states that FR does not censor posts... and then goes on to say that is does censor certain posts of some vague definition. Sort of like the "I didn't have sex with that woman" and "definition of is" doublespeak logic.
Spending only a little time here, I have no experience in what is being actively censored on FR, but I'd be interested in seeing the censored materials and explainations behind the censor's decisions to silence the materials.
Have you been silenced today? Perhaps if you haven't, you're not saying the right things.
I differ on that point .what is going on in S-A is racism . black racism . the truth is the truth , and i for 1 wont refer to it any other way . I'm not a lawyer , i know what is , is ..
Excuse me but if this is not about racial strife to some degree then I don't know what qualifies.
Of course it's about power, land, and gun control too but to deny that race is the dominant factor in these "troubles" is pure Pollyanna poppycock.
I don't know why anybody should be suprised. This is what is coming to America. Last year during the Puerto Rican day parade in New York City white women were assaulted in broad daylight and nothing was done about it. In fact, none of the perpetrators received any substantial jail time. We just had the Sean Puffy Combs trial in which he was acquitted of all charges even though there were hundreds of eye witnesses who saw him ... The criminal justice system in America is being turned on its head now.
Did anybody take notice of the latest census which showed that California, the nations most populous state, is now majority third world population? Did anybody take note of the latest census which showed that Texas, the nations second most populous state, is now 47 percent third world and that in just a few years it will be majority third world?
The experts have said that by 2050 America itself will be majority third world population. This latest census has proved them wrong. It will not take 50 years. It will be done in twenty years time. Once that happens, America will be finished.
Don't look like a American :-)...serious...
Cape Town is the jewel of South Africa...seafood IMHO the best in the world together with the wines...beaches are great....views amazing.....really cheap for Americans now $1.00 = R8.00.....however as I said try to look like a local nothing fancy no gold chains ,fancy watches...stick to popular areas you should have a great time and education
You are correct: Here are somethings that are happening now: Fly the black nationalist flag - OK Fly the confederate flag- NO WAY Cops Stop a white guy for whatever reason - OK Cops Stop a black guy for whatever reason - racial profiling Mgr. Fires a white guy from the job - OK Mgr. Fires a black guy - you got the Feds to answer to Street punks call white guy a honkey - whitey- etc. They are simply making a social statement White kids call a black guy a n----r - they are racist! The list of thing is in the 1000's I could go on for days!
You forgot America is an ideological construct not a nation in the literal sense. That is the current dogma especially here at FR and other conservative org's, and in a sense it is a continuation of the egalitarian nightmare. You and others in this thread are right this is "Racism" in action except it is deemed not important, even Mandella admits blacks in SA have been acting "racist" but of course not even this admission made our news.
It is beautiful, isn't it?
Well, I guess I'll have to rethink the DaimlerChrysler press trip to South Africa.
With such smart folks running FR website I would suggest that offending posts be removed and not the entire thread.....many great debates have taken place only to have it pulled by one or two morons posting something....proberly on purpose ....
That is absolutely correct. This crap about racial profiliing. What are the cops supposed to do let black thugs pray on innocent white people in the subways all across America?
All, I repeat, ALL white people in America should join the NRA and take NRA courses in the safe use of firearms. Once they complete that course they should go out and buy firearms. This is not a joke.
Sorry to say this...from far it is beautiful ...at ground zero its falling apart....
Go....like I said great education.....you get to see Americas future !
If you want a great view, climb Lion's Head Point, the very conical "hill" to the right in your picture, just prior to sunset. Stunning....
The climb back down in the dark is a bit interesting though.
The Bantu seem incapable of doing anything exept fouling their own nests.
"Unless we finally get the courage to discuss race without hate or guilt, we can never address the problems associated with it."
Right on the money. When did any discussion of RACE becom RACISM?
Of course it's race. Sheesh. As if it could be about anything else.
Look ye here, good Freepers. Just as we have an instincts for property and procreation, we have a tribal instinct. Group competition for resources is the basis of the tribal instinct. As Darwin pointed out, the fundamental unit of evolution is not the individual, it is rather the tribe. We're dealing here with the engine of Evolution itself.
This is a playing out of the overriding tribal instinct. And we're FOOLS to ignore it.
Indeed, for whatever reasons, WHITES seem to be the only ones capable of fooling theselves that RACE doesn't exist.
Spend some time anywhere else in the world, and you'll see that nobody else believes in "multiculturalism" and that "diversity is our strength." SA is provinig for the upteenth time that diversity is the source of our greatest weakness.
With whites being dragged from their cars in Cincy and beaten as the cops stand by and the official news media blots it from the mass conciousness, we're far closer to the plight of SA's "commercial farmers" (euphemism!) then we'd care to admit.
Walter Yannis
Go....like I said great education.....you get to see Americas future !
Excuse me but you don't have to wait for the future. Anytime you like just visit my hometown of Jackson Mississippi. Capetown may be a favorable comparison.
Bump! Perfect summary...
The globalists want SA's gold to underwrite their currency.
SA whites might flee their country, but it isn't much better here or in Europe. Look at the American Patrol Web site to see a ghastly photo of a white UK citizen beaten to a pulp by South Asians. Reference the ethnic cleansing attacks in downtown Cincinnati.
People of all colors, arm yourselves -- defensively. Don't become practice dummies for hooligans.
From a article I posted a while back
People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).
Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveals trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.
America's structures are of "Western Culture". Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly your "Western Culture", not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.
Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman -- that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability,with freedom and justice for all.
But woe to you if -- or more likely, when -- the rules change. Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game -- violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves -- Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.
That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.
The experts have said that by 2050 America itself will be majority third world population. This latest census has proved them wrong. It will not take 50 years. It will be done in twenty years time. Once that happens, America will be finished.
I know what would cure this problem, and it has nothing to do with regulating immigration.
If all welfare would be eliminated tomorrow, only those who had actually paid into social security could get it, and the minimum wage was eliminated, end of problem.
Most immigrans actually come here to work, and if that's what they all did, I wouldn't care how many came here. Our government does everything it can to encourage them not to work. If you eliminated that encouragement, the problem would go away. Those few who come to get something for nothing would not be intereseted any more.
People who are busy working and raising their families do not have the time or interest to pull the kinds of stunts pulled in NY.
Robby, are commercial farmers allowed to have armed guards to protect their investment/property?
I am so sorry to read an article like this. I spent considerable time there in "84 and found the country to be so beautiful.
I am sure they will find some white guy to arrest.
They don't want it.....they already own it.. once the deal now on books takes place DeBeers(Oppenheimer family) buying Anglo SA they will have control 0f 90% of the worlds mineral resources...
90%? Do they control the reserves in Russia and China? I think that would be greater than 10%. However, I don't doubt DeBeers' ambition.
I saw a show two thursday nights ago on C-Span in which they had on half a dozen or so former National Security Advisors going back a half a century to the Eisenhower administration. They were Goodpaster for Eisenhower, Rostow for Kennedy/Johnson, Brezinski for Carter, Carlucci for Reagan, Berger for Clinton. (Missing were Scowcroft for Bush and Kissinger for Nixon.)
When asked what was the greatest national security the world will face in the next 50 years--they gave and astonishing answer. They said population collapse. They said its starting now in Japan, Russia, and parts of Europe and would move to the USA in 10 years, Mexico and China in 20 and so on. The reproductive rate needed to keep a population stable is 2.1 per couple. Japan, Russia and many countries in Europe have already fallen below these rates. The USA, is expected to follow in 10 years, Mexico and China in 20.
They said national policies will need to change in order to encourage reproduction.
So why is that reproduction rates are collapsing all over the world but Africa?
For example can it be said that only Africans believe in God? Or only Africans have faith? Or only Africans see the future in terms of their generations. Or only Africans are rich. Or only Africans are not enslaved? Or only Africans are wise?
Consider. Even God's foolishness is wiser than the wisdom of men.
nice username...my Dad was class of '55. I was a lowly Ole Miss grad but hold the institute in high esteem...tarnished as of late unfortunately.
Gun Control in SA ...farmers have access to FN R1 if they ever served in the military however buying one today is a major mission.....many farmers have formed there own patrols but many are so far out in no where land thats impossible....I hope mamy Americans learn this lesson...a handgun is personaly protection a semi-auto is family protection
We have no rights in America now. I don't know what it's going to take for the American majority to wake up but they better do it soon. IF they think that their kids and grandkids future is safe in an America where the third worlders make up the majority then they are beyond delusional. There will be no place left to hide. The latest census showed that the third worlders are even moving into Montana and Idaho. There is no place to hide. These people hate America, they hate the white man and once they become the majority it will be over.
There's only one thing to do. Make sure your children and grandchildren all mary "third worlders," unless you are a third worlder, then make sure your children mary someone who isn't. If we start right away, the next "mixed" generation will be the clear majority, and they'll be your grandchildren and great grandchildren. They won't hate America because they'll be America.
...I would suggest that offending posts be removed and not the entire thread...
I have seen this occur...so perhaps now only the offending posts are being culled.
1st comes gun control
2nd comes the Chinese flag.
Where is Munther B******* from BCCI during all this, still hiding or moved ?
I agree. This policy America has which provides affirmative action and welfare benefits to third world immigrants at the expense of native born Americans is beyond outragious. It is insane. It is an open invitation to national suicide.
What other country on earth does this? Let some white American immigrate to Japan and demand welfare benefits and free healthcare and free housing and affirmative action opportunites in jobs and education. We all know what the Japanese say about this. They say get lost...
He bought the AK 47's , OK.
"South African whites are being viciously attacked and killed, and a media blackout of the crimes has not helped."
We'll be fighting in the streets, with our children at our feet,
and the morals that they worship will be gone.
And the men who spurred us on, sit in judgment of all wrong,
they decide and the AK sings it's song.
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
take a bow for the new revolution,
smile and grin at the change all around,
take up my AK and fire
just like yesterday,
and I'll get on my knees and pray.
We don't get fooled again.
The change it had to come, we knew it all along,
we were liberated from the fold, that's all.
And the world looks just the same, and history ain't changed,
'cause a tyrant's still a tyrant, black or white.
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
take a bow for the new revolution,
smile and grin at the change all around,
take up my AK and fire
just like yesterday,
and I'll get on my knees and pray.
We don't get fooled again.
I'll move myself and my family aside,
if we happen to be left half alive,
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky,
'cause I know that communists never lie.
Nothing in the street, looks any different to me.
And the slogans are all replaced, by and by,
and the party of the left is now the party of the right,
and the AK's they still kill us, like before.
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
take a bow for the new revolution,
smile and grin at the change all around,
take up my AK and fire
just like yesterday,
and I'll get on my knees and pray.
We don't get fooled again.
Yeah,
meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.
And around and around it goes. An amoral tyranny, from oppressed to oppressor, yet nothing changes. Nothing, save for the names and faces of the oppressed and the oppressor. A modern civilization degenerating into tribal clans, making war upon each other. This is Nelson Mandella's paradise of equality; his retribution. A possible glimps into the future of the US, thanks to class warfare.
Why would one be a "moron" to inject race into this debate? The article, and the killings, are clearly about race. Are we to join the liberal pc press and close our eyes to that fact?
South Africa not only mines gold ,diamonds,platinum and other autocatalysts; Coal - Iron ore - Aluminium - Chrome alloys - Stainless- Titanium slag - Pigments for i.e. paint and paper; Manganese alloys - Vanadium alloys -Alumina concentrates -
Why would one be a "moron" to inject race into this debate.......its not the color of the skin its the content of their character
clap,clap,clap :-)
Any recommendations for a safe trip?
Have Jesse named to your company's board of directors (going rate $50k) and have him tag along and you'll be fine.
And a Mega Bump for you and your Dad.
-- Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.
That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.
I doubt that there were many black South African leaders championing Apartheid. There are however, many black Republicans championing conservatism.
As soon as the GOP manages to nominate solidly conservative black and other minorities for President and other national offices, they will have back the black vote, as they did during reconstruction.
The difference between the USA and SA is that whites are a majority here, and can easily manipulate the minority populations to vote for their party
(as evidenced by the 90% share of the black vote the Democrats enjoyed in the last election), provided they are willing to do what it takes.
At this point when there are NO black US Senators and neither party has ever nominated a Black for the White House, it is vital that the GOP be first and ensure that the ridiculous black vote majority currently enjoyed by the socialist Democratic party is ended.
Blacks control SA because they were a united majority assisted by the Comintern and it's allies in the US Democratic party.
This will not happen here if the GOP does the simple thing and brings blacks and other minorities to its banner.
And you are a commercial farmer who is being attacked by a group of blacks with the tacit approval of the black controlled government? What does one say about the "content of one's character"?
I have the answer to your question. It is thoughtful, it is logical, it is based on factual knowledge, it is correct, and it is the truth.
HOWEVER, the answer will cause this thread to be pulled, and I to be forever banned from Free Republic, which I love so much, all because of grossly misguided sensitivities.
Therefore, you will have to go to someone else for the answer or rely on your own intuition.
FReegards,
I guess that if you are not 'white', then you are a 'third worlder'. Somewhere above, someone mentioned that by 2050 America will be a 'third world' people majority. Of course, in all of these debates[which appear to be conducted mainly by white conservatives] there is hardly a mention of the individuality and diversity in this 'third world' population. It is implied that all non-whites are somehow non-American and loyal to some foreign country. It seems that people of 'color' could never be 'real' Americans.
Maybe the left is right! In the end, it all boils down to race, eventually.
I beg to differ with your statement.....Blacks control SA because they were a united majority assisted by the Comintern and it's allies in the US Democratic party......
There was never then or now a united majority....tribalism makes sure of this....what America thought it saw when blacks went to vote was a united black populace....just like the photo of Cape Town above it looks great from far....the real world is ground zero....
If we had a honest press in America it would of reported the roving gangs of ANC supporters killing raping and intimidating the locals....they were given the ultimatum vote for Mandela or die
Get a local car with installed flame throwers fitted....as a deterrent to car jacking.
The locals also leave a bottle of spiked liquor in the glove compartment as a parting gift to any successful car theft.
In the 20 years I have been in America and meeting thousands of American Patriots... thanks to my radio shows I can say your statement is false....
The folks I have meet have no problem with people of different countries or race that come to America so long as they asimulate to American way of life and culture....it is when they arrive here and try to impose the failed doctrine of the country that they left or just to suck on the tit of American prosperity without adding constructively to the betterment of society
Make that the real purpose of SA guncontrol, and you have a winner.
Agree, there is a problem when immigrants resist assimilation. However, throughout the debates on America's future, all you hear about[mainly from a lot of elements from the right] is of how non-whites or 'people of color' will be the majority. The implication seems to be that this is somehow wrong and only whites are 'true' Americans. They somehow leave out the complexity of this debate and put everything in terms of black and white, forgetting the millions who are assimilated and are proud Americans. Of course, they do look different and might have a slightly different take on America than the traditional WASP. Still, they are loyal and serve their country well.
Could it be that maybe there is an uneasiness that a lot of whites have regarding the racial make-up of America? Even if they are fully assimilated, they will never be accepted as 'fully' American? Lets be honest with ourselves, the founders WHERE northern, white Europeans. If George Washington is the archetypical American, how could a person of color ever be 'fully' American?
If George Washington is the archetypical American, how could a person of color ever be 'fully' American?
I prefer to think that anyone could become "fully American" by understanding the concept of Liberty and Freedom...granted because none of the founders were black this is a hard sell however at the time of the founding blacks were not shall we say a political thought not that this was racist rather they were not seen as bring anything to the table...the fouders fight was with the British ....
The Revolution was a fought over freedom...good vs evil...period....nothing to do with race because I guess it was white guys fighting white guys...look how far we have come ....where in todays world we don't look at liberation as a fight for freedom rather we attack them in hindsight and give a collective cry "how could kill these helpless people" look at the Bob Kerrey mess ..the CNN thing in Vietnam ...tailhook.....the No Gun Re thing in Korea ....one would think that that if you kill your enemy in war you are now somekind of Hitler....how come we don't hear about what the North Koreans/Chinese/Japanese/Germans/Vietnamese/Communist etc.... did to American GI's?
Its nuts....history is not something to be ashamed of rather a series of events that hopefully we can learn from and not repeat the failures