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Free Republic files our Ninth Circuit Reply Brief in LAT/WP vs. Free Republic

Activism/Chapters Breaking News Announcement
Source: Free Republic
Published: 06/21/01 Author: Jim Robinson
Posted on 06/21/2001 17:27:16 PDT by Jim Robinson

The Free Republic Legal Defense Fund As most of you know, Free Republic is engaged in a life and death struggle with elements of the socialist propaganda machine, namely, the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post, over whether or not the First Amendment guarantees our rights to gather in our electronic townhall forum where we virtually pass around newspaper clippings of news accounts of government abuse and or unconstitutional expansion, for discussion and critiquing purposes. The LAT/WP has brought suit against us in federal court for alleged copyright infringement and unfair competition. The trial judge in the case erroneously disallowed our fair use and first amendment defenses, basing her ruling on the false assumption that Free Republic is a commercial enterprise. We have appealed to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals where we hope to prevail. We have just filed our final reply brief in this appeal. Looks like Brian Buckley and his crew have done a terrific job in presenting our case. If all goes as expected, we believe that oral arguments will be heard in September. Free Republic is the premier conservative news forum on the Internet. We started in 1996 with just a few dozen posters and now in our fifth year we have grown to over 60,000 people who have registered and or are participants or readers. Free Republic rallies and activism efforts helped impeach President Clinton and our "Sore Loserman" campaign prevented Al Gore from stealing the White house. Free Republic is not affiliated with any political party or news source. We are a completely independent grass roots discussion group. We receive no funding from government, corporations, political parties, news sources or any other entity. We are totally self funded through donations from our participants and readers. If you appreciate Free Republic and want to see it continue fighting government abuses, unrestricted by unconstitutional restraints, and if you feel as we do that our copying of newspaper articles for non commercial political discussion purposes is a fair use and is within the parameters of existing law and within the intent of our Founding Fathers, then please click here to send a donation to support our legal defense fund. Or make a check or money order payable to Free Republic, LLC and mail to: Free Republic, LLC PO Box 9771 Fresno, CA 93794 Thank you very much for your support. Jim Robinson The following is a list of Free Republic discussion threads pertaining to the law suit: 06/21/01 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) U.S. COURT OF APPEALS NINTH CIRCUIT - LAT/WP vs. FREE REPUBLIC - REPLY BRIEF OF APPELLANTS 06/01/01 LAT/WP (Rex Heinke) L.A. Times / Washington Post v. Free Republic - LAT/WP Ninth Circuit Brief 04/19/01 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Washington Post v. Free Republic - FR's Ninth Circuit Brief 04/15/01 Free Republic (Jim Robinson) In Defense of Free Speech and Free Assembly 04/09/01 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Free Republic v. Aldridge:Federal Court Issues Permanent Injunction Against Thomas Chappell Aldridge 01/25/01 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Free Republic v. Aldridge - FR Motion for Preliminary Injunction 12/29/00 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Washington Post v. Free Republic: Update and Ninth Circuit Order 12/22/00 The National Law Journal Fair Use Online 12/07/00 A Yale Law School Conference Paper The Free Republic Problem: Markets in Information 11/28/00 National Public Radio Freeper Interview on NPR - Transcript -- Brian Buckley, Juan Williams 11/24/00 Tech Law Journal Copyright and The First Amendment 11/23/00 Free Republic (Jim Robinson) Message being circlated regarding Free Republic, Copyright and Fair Use 11/21/00 Free Republic (Jim Robinson) Notice: Final Judgment has been filed in LAT/WP vs Free Republic 11/04/00 WorldNetDaily Court: Gephardt opponent can run ads [Appeals court overrules lower court in political free speech - fair use case] 10/30/00 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Washington Post v. Free Republic: Final Judgment To Be Entered 09/25/00 Free Republic (Jim Robinson) Vanity: Status of LAT/WP Lawsuit 08/07/00 Techlaw Journal Order Entered Against FR in LAT/WP Copyright Infringement Case 07/28/00 Free Republic (Jim Robinson) Outcome of today's hearing regarding the LATimes lawsuit 04/11/00 Tech Law Journal Judge Finalizes her Tentative Ruling Against Free Republic 02/23/00 Free Republic (Demidog) Free Speech: Washington Post v Free Republic 12/22/99 Editor & Publisher magazine COPYRIGHT IN THE DIGITAL AGE: Interview With Lawyers Suing FreeRepublic.com 11/29/99 Free Republic (Alamo-Girl) Downside Legacy on Judge Margaret Morrow 11/24/99 Tech Law Journal Copyright and The First Amendment 11/21/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) FINAL JUDGMENT 11/15/99 The New York Times Setback for a Web Site in Copyright Case 11/14/99 Heads Up (Doug Fiedor) COURT CHOPS AT LIBERTY TREE, and JimRob COMMENTS ON THE TRIAL 11/12/99 Antiwar.com via WND CORPORATE LIBERALS TARGET CONSERVATIVE WEB SITE 11/11/99 Free Republic (JIm Robinson) Does Judge Morrow owe her seat to the Los Angeles Times 11/11/99 WorldNetDaily Court says no to FreeRepublic.com 11/10/99 Salon.com Fair use" vs. foul play 11/09/99 Free Republic Forum Support for Jim Robinson and FreeRepublic 11/09/99 Associated Press Judge rejects Web site's argument in copyright infringement suit 11/09/99 Free Republic (Judge Morrow) Tentative Order in LAT/WP v. FR actual excerpts 11/08/99 Free Republic (Bob Johnson) Judge Finds in Favor of Plaintiffs on Partial Summary Judgement Motion 11/01/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Free Republic's Reply Memorandum - Washington Post Lawsuit 11/01/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Free Republic's Reply Memorandum - Washington Post Lawsuit 10/29/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Declaration of Jim Robinson In Opposition to Washington Post Motion for Summary Judgment 10/19/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) DECLARATION OF RICHARD L. STOUT IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANTS' MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT 10/19/99 Heather Wayland and Tech Law Journal Plaintiffs' Memo in Support of Motion for Summary Judgment 10/19/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANTS' MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT 10/16/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Lawsuit Update -- Washington Post v. Free Republic (10-16-99) 10/13/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Lawsuit Update -- Washington Post v. Free Republic 09/14/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Letter to Washington Post Lawyers -- Free Republic Lawsuit Update 07/01/99 Free Republic (Brian L. Buckley) Next Letter To Counsel for Washington Post (Copyright Suit Update #2) 05/19/99 Pepperdine Law (The Magazine of Pepperdine Law School) Fair Use in Cyberspace (Washington Post v. Free Republic) 05/11/99 Corporate Legal Times FIRST AMENDMENT INFRINGEMENT OR SIMPLE COPYRIGHT CASE? 03/31/99 Real Mensch Jounalism's War on Truth (WP vs. Free Republic cited) 03/13/99 Washington Weekly A Political Force to be Reckoned With - Interview with Free Republic Founder Jim Robinson 11/01/98 Los Angeles Times Copyright Suit Goes to Heart of Debate - Complete Article 11/01/98 Free Republic (AP) Free Republic being sued!..Join the Battle! 10/30/98 Media Info Web Site Claims 'Fair Use' 10/29/98 Media Bypass Magazine (Doug Fiedor) Nurturing Today's Liberty Tree 10/08/98 The Progressive FREE REPUBLIC SUED BY MEDIA BULLIES. . . 10/4/98 Washington Weekly Washington Post and L.A. Times Sue Jim Robinson 10/04/98 Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher Text of The LA Times/Washington Post Complaint For Copyright Infringment 10/02/98 Free Republic (Jim Robinson) Updates 09/30/98 Free Republic (Boston) Discussion of Copyright Fair Use Exception 09/30/98 Washington Weekly DNC Law Firm Behind Crackdown on Internet Dissidents 09/29/98 Drudge Report BIG BOYS SUE FREE REPUBLIC 09/29/98 Newsbytes FreeRepublic Site To Be Sued Over Copyright 04/05/98 WASHINGTON WEEKLY ALERT TO ALL FREE REPUBLIC READERS! DNC Law Firm Behind Crackdown on Internet Dissidents--THAT'S US FOLKS!!!!! 03/25/98 Free Republic (Jim Robinson) Washington Post Complaint 12/08/97 Washington Weekly Government Crackdown on Dissidents -- Hand of White House Seen In Massive Effort 12/05/97 Free Republic (Jim Robinson) Major Media wants to shut us down 11/19/97 c|net news L.A. Times cracks down on framers

Tech Law Journal LA Times v. Free Republic 09/28/98 Plaintiff Complaint 10/20/98 Defendant Answer 10/04/99 Plaintiff's Memorandum in Support of Summary Judgement 10/18/99 Memorandum in Support of Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgement 10/18/99 Declaration of Richard Stout 10/25/99 Plaintiffs' Opposition to Defendants' Cross Motion for Summary Judgment 10/29/99 Declaration of James Robinson 11/01/99 Reply Brief by the Plaintiffs 11/08/99 Judge Morrow's Tentative Order 07/31/00 Judge Morrow's Second Tentative Order Granting Summary Judgement

1 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:27:16 PDT by Jim Robinson
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I found out a long time ago that the only way to push you around is to get behind you.

I am behind you ALL THE WAY.

FR rules!

2 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:31:45 PDT by Clarity
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Oops. Left off one:

05/17/01 Southeastern Legal Foundation
Southeastern Legal Foundation's Amicus Brief in Support of Free Republic

3 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:35:03 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Well, please keep on pushing!

Thanks Brian. I'll never be able to repay you for all you've done for us even if I live to a ripe old age.

4 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:37:47 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Long Live This FreeRepublic!

Long Live Free Speech!

Long Live the Bill Of Rights!

5 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:40:14 PDT by t-shirt
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Money finally got sent in today. Keep fighting, JimRob.

6 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:41:18 PDT by doug from upland
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Why don't LAT & AOL WARNER & New Times & Gannet & ABC & NBC & CBS just go ahead and merge admit they are all one big ugly monopoly of thought, and Propaganda?

7 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:42:25 PDT by t-shirt
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$50 off the plastic fantastic coming your way...

8 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:45:12 PDT by randog
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Why do I have the feeling that, if a liberal counterpart to FreeRepublic (though none of them even come close to being like FR) was to copy the WP/LAT's propaganda and paste it all over their website, they would have absolutely no problem with it?

Methinks that they don't want to enforce the copyright laws. They just want to eliminate and irradicate any harsh criticism of their works and ideology.

I wish you luck, Mr. Robinson. I'll be here rooting for you all the way.

9 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:49:50 PDT by clikker
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My humble contribution will make it to you soon, Cal Edison & the USPS permitting.

10 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:50:52 PDT by a history buff
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bttt

11 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:56:27 PDT by XBob
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Brian, did you ever see my post about another "fair use" case making its way through the Ninth Circuit, Ellison vs. AOL ? The latter case, juxtaposed with the FR case, points out the difference between the application of the doctrine to creative writing and to news stories.

12 Posted on 06/21/2001 17:58:03 PDT by denydenydeny
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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

'nuff said.

13 Posted on 06/21/2001 18:20:26 PDT by Straight Vermonter
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The Post and it's owners are total hyprocrites. They didn't have any problems publishing the entire STOLEN Pentagon Papers in 1972.

All those STOLEN documents the Post uses to break scoops don't seem to bother them. They'll give you a line about "freedom of press", but it seems that "freedom" is a notion they think can be copyrighted!

14 Posted on 06/21/2001 18:28:13 PDT by bulldog905
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Your donation has been sent. IMO, this is the *true* threat to FR's solvency. I doubt you'll get relief until you reach beyond the Ninth Circuit. SCOTUS, here we come..

15 Posted on 06/21/2001 18:36:07 PDT by Tall_Texan
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You have all our thanks for keeping this site going from server to server over the years, as it keeps getting better. May freedom and justice prevail.

16 Posted on 06/21/2001 18:49:04 PDT by Cicero
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Big Bump for Jim Robinson and for FreeRepublic.com.

17 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:04:52 PDT by ChaseR
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loaded for bear!

18 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:21:21 PDT by rface
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Thank you Doug!

19 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:42:03 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Thanks! We appreciate your support. Regards, Jim Robinson

20 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:42:49 PDT by Jim Robinson
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May your light continue to shine brightly. Thanks, Jim Robinson

21 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:44:03 PDT by Jim Robinson
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That's the way I read it. Thanks, Jim Robinson

22 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:44:44 PDT by Jim Robinson
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"The Post and it's owners are total hyprocrites."

You got that right!

Thanks, Jim

23 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:45:56 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Yes sir! Thank you very much. Regards, Jim Robinson

24 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:46:45 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Heads up ladies

25 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:49:40 PDT by amom
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May the 9th Circuit see the light and toss the LAT/WP suit out.

26 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:50:46 PDT by steveegg
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I hope so too. Pray for light. Thanks, Jim Robinson

27 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:52:37 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Wonderful news!!! Bumping for legal fund help!

28 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:53:05 PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Thanks for the heads up!

29 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:56:25 PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Check's in the mail. Wish it was for more...*sigh*

30 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:56:39 PDT by amom
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Thank you. Every little bit helps. Regards, Jim Robinson

31 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:58:43 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Bump to all!!

Eaker

32 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:59:04 PDT by Eaker
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BTTT!

33 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:59:05 PDT by Buckeroo (gibraltar@discover.net)
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Mr. Buckley:

Thank you for all your hard work.

To Mr. Robinson: Can I send a check to the Fresno address??

34 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:59:16 PDT by Bonez
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Link bounced into the current FReepathon thread (44), and up to somewhere north of $32,000).

35 Posted on 06/21/2001 19:59:59 PDT by steveegg
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You bet. Thanks very much. Regards, Jim Robinson

36 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:00:04 PDT by Jim Robinson
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By all means.

37 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:02:41 PDT by steveegg (One of the current FReepathon volunteers)
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Thought you might like to see this.

38 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:05:19 PDT by amom
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Count me in, JimRob.
Mine's on the way.

39 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:06:44 PDT by COB1
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Howdy there! I know you would want to see this.

40 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:08:45 PDT by amom (all your truth are belong to us)
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Jim, I'm hoping and praying for the best. You're going up against city hall and that is a tough proposition.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic; only trying to lay out the realities of the situation.

I have my own situation. But we won't go down without a fight. Count on it!

41 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:10:44 PDT by Fred Mertz
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Thanks very much. Regards, Jim Robinson

42 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:12:17 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Heads up my friend

43 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:17:06 PDT by amom
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I just thought you might like to see this.

44 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:20:54 PDT by amom
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You are in our thoughts and prayers for a successful conclusion. Keep up the good fight!
"Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one."
--A. J. Liebing

45 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:24:20 PDT by 2Trievers
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Bttt.

5.56mm

46 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:24:47 PDT by M Kehoe
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Thank you. God bless.

47 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:31:58 PDT by Jim Robinson
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The Role We Play at Free Republic-A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law (1765)

Thank you. Bump!

48 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:33:06 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Praying for all of us. Thanks, Jim Robinson

49 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:33:38 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Thanks again, COB1. Regards, Jim Robinson

50 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:34:29 PDT by Jim Robinson
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You probably read it all the time on your threads, but thanks just the same for a great web site for folks concerned about their country. Best wishes!

51 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:39:28 PDT by Coop
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A check for $50.00 on the way via snailmail, my friend.

Keep up the great work and God bless you and yours.

Brian, to say you're doing a first rate job would be a vast understatement.

Thanks for your selfless devotion and ardent commitment to Freerepublic.com.

God bless!

52 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:40:36 PDT by JohnHuang2
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Thanks for the flag, my friend =^)

53 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:41:52 PDT by JohnHuang2
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BUMP! By tommorrow morning, another $30 will be coming through the postal service for the FR Legal Defense Fund.

May the star known as FreeRepublic,
Continue to shine ever so bright;
For at the end of the tunnel,
there always is a light.

54 Posted on 06/21/2001 20:55:14 PDT by clikker
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Beggin' the boss's pardon, but I just tried to give you my ammo money for July. The server seems to be having a problem. Doesn't your bank accept 7.62 NATO in sealed 200 round battle packs? It is the good Hirtenberg stuff.

I will try again in a few minutes.

55 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:04:44 PDT by M1991
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Thank you, Coop.

56 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:20:53 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Thank you, my friend. God bless.

57 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:21:40 PDT by Jim Robinson
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And may the light always shine. Thank you very much.

58 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:24:26 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Thank you, M1991.

59 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:25:09 PDT by Jim Robinson
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.

60 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:30:43 PDT by JudyB1938
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Thanks so much for posting this, Jim... was wondering last night what the scoop was about now, seems you almost read my mind. There's another check coming to you earmarked for the legal fund - just got it on thread 43 in time for one of the fun challenges about ready to end (grins..)

God bless you and yours...

61 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:35:27 PDT by Ron C.
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You're more than welcome, Jim.
Bump!

62 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:35:54 PDT by JohnHuang2
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Sent $20 last week, $20 more tomorrow. Thanks for Free Republic Jim!

63 Posted on 06/21/2001 21:40:09 PDT by b4its2late
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Thanks for the flag

My pleasure, as always. *<]80}

64 Posted on 06/21/2001 22:49:50 PDT by amom
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;^)

65 Posted on 06/21/2001 22:53:09 PDT by JohnHuang2
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I'm in also for $50 via snailmail (mailing in the morning). FR IS the BEST conservative website on the net and I pray for FR to win big-time at the Ninth Circuit.

(This is awful, I nearly pinged Arthur McGowan along with you. {Grin})

66 Posted on 06/21/2001 23:17:34 PDT by xJones
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Thanks very much, Ron. God bless.

67 Posted on 06/21/2001 23:19:40 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Thanks. Its never too late.

68 Posted on 06/21/2001 23:20:22 PDT by Jim Robinson
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We're all praying. Pray the judges on our panel respect individual rights and have an everlasting love for liberty. Regards, Jim Robinson

69 Posted on 06/21/2001 23:24:21 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Pray the judges on our panel respect individual rights and have an everlasting love for liberty. Regards, Jim Robinson

I'd be more comfortable if the case was here in Texas. If (and we have to plan for the worse) it's necessary, can we appeal to a higher court? We know we're right, but it depends on the honesty and integrity of the judge, I suppose.

70 Posted on 06/21/2001 23:41:46 PDT by Gracey
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Just sent $50 your way, Jim - you haven't lost if you are still trying!

Thank you for keeping us advised. I will come back and read more over the weekend.

71 Posted on 06/22/2001 00:00:23 PDT by snowflake
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Well, if it goes against us at the 9th, I believe the Supreme Court will rule for the first amendment (if we can get there).

72 Posted on 06/22/2001 00:35:37 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Thank your very much.

73 Posted on 06/22/2001 00:36:07 PDT by Jim Robinson
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74 Posted on 06/22/2001 01:28:17 PDT by JohnHuang2
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The server accepted my pitiful little donation this morning. I hope I had trouble last night because so many others were donating at the same time.

Let's win one for the Gipper!

75 Posted on 06/22/2001 05:14:05 PDT by M1991
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Bump!

76 Posted on 06/22/2001 06:16:24 PDT by JeanS
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{~:-)

77 Posted on 06/22/2001 06:42:17 PDT by amom
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Jim, thank you for all you and John do for us. A heck of a lot of work with not a lot of glory, but very appreciated!

Can I send you money via PayPal? I thought I saw something somewhere about it. I've got exactly $40.51 that's been sitting in my account that I totally forgot about and can think of nothing better than supporting FR in it's defense aginst "Big Media." Or if it's easier, I'll just take the money out and send a check or put it on the plastic.

78 Posted on 06/22/2001 06:47:24 PDT by LoneGOPinCT
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Thank you Jim Robinson!!!

Legal Defense Fund Bump

79 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:02:05 PDT by Topaz
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Thanks and bump!

80 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:05:46 PDT by Topaz
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I found out a long time ago that the only way to push you around is to get behind you.

I am behind you ALL THE WAY.

FR rules!

Amen -- and may God bless you both -- and keep Our FRee Republic FRee!

81 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:06:48 PDT by Brian Allen
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When you get that "Error Message" the donation comes through anyway. If you don't get a thank you E-mail from me within an hour then re-try. This only happens with some servers.

82 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:10:56 PDT by BADJOE
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Send paypal direct to JimRob@psnw.com

83 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:12:17 PDT by BADJOE
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That is an excellent idea! I think I also have some in my account that I will beam over to Fresno. With PayPal you can send anyone money who has an e-mail address. :-)

84 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:14:53 PDT by Mama_Bear
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Thanks to you and your son for all your hard work. And thanks to everyone who works so hard behind the scenes, that we're not even aware of. There is no other place like FreeRepublic. It's wonderful that you have built this into what it is today. I will work very hard to help keep FreeRepublic up and running. It will be my way of saying thank you. Best wishes!

85 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:17:09 PDT by BeforeISleep
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BTTT!

86 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:17:28 PDT by March I up
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Thank you for posting this. Sometimes we forget what you're up against.

Thank you for this website. Thank you for allowing us to participate. Thank you for fighting the good fight every day.

I'll go visit the CC machine again.

87 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:17:48 PDT by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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I will work very hard to help keep FreeRepublic up and running. It will be my way of saying thank you. Best wishes!

Ditto!

88 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:18:32 PDT by Topaz
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Thank you so much for what you do to help Free Republic Clarity! We are all in your debt.

89 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:23:40 PDT by Topaz
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Thanks for the call! :o)

90 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:50:31 PDT by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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Thanks to all of you for your work in keeping free speech alive on the Internet.

91 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:57:41 PDT by Philo1962
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$40.51 on it's way via PayPal. Thanks again.

92 Posted on 06/22/2001 07:58:29 PDT by LoneGOPinCT
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Thanks for the bump as I hadn't seen this yet.

93 Posted on 06/22/2001 08:17:39 PDT by KC Burke
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"...we won't go down without a fight. Count on it!"

We will not go down at all. We will win. And it won't be a TKO. We will win on a knock out. Regards.

94 Posted on 06/22/2001 08:30:25 PDT by Clarity
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A fight for FreeRepublic's 1st ammendment rights bump

95 Posted on 06/22/2001 09:04:47 PDT by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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Shooting Fish in a Barrel ......Why the Los Angeles Times Doesn't like FreeRepublic.....  

Take a look at these three recent examples of the the LAT's journalistic integrity:

1. Even though the Times covers even the most minute news of the gay community, they still have not informed their readers that they have cut off the Boy Scouts from receiving any campership money that the Times solicits from its readers.
   
2. Here's a typical headline from the Times "State to Pay Electric Bill With Loan, Not Taxes." (6/20/2001) Just how stupid do they think we are???
   
3. In today's LAT there is a long article on page 1 about historian Joseph Ellis' fabricating Vietnam War service. Funny thing, though, the Times didn't bother to include in the story a single mention of Ellis' role in propagating the story about Thomas Jefferson's supposed fathering of a child by slave Sally Jenings. Gee, do you think there just might be a political bias here??
   

The LAT makes it so easy to ridicule them. No wonder they don't like us.  ~~ It's just like shooting fish in a barrel.  ;-)

96 Posted on 06/22/2001 09:42:28 PDT by Aunt Polgara
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Thanks for helping this one too!

97 Posted on 06/22/2001 09:43:06 PDT by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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"Take a look at these three recent examples of the the LAT's journalistic integrity...."

A search party was sent out a long time ago to find, and if possible rescue, the Los Angeles Times' journalistic integrity.

Unfortunately, the search party has never been heard from and is feared dead. Rumor has it - and this is only rumor - that the search party is buried beneath Staples Center and that the Times' journalistic integrity is still at large, lacking a medium, and ever so small.

98 Posted on 06/22/2001 10:07:04 PDT by Clarity
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We have appealed to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals where we hope to prevail.

Actually, you might be better off if the 9th rules against you. They have such an abysmal record of getting overturned by the Supreme Court that whatever they rule is more likely to be wrong than not.

99 Posted on 06/22/2001 11:07:36 PDT by John Jorsett
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Wasn't that the Donner party?

100 Posted on 06/22/2001 12:06:04 PDT by Dr. Thorne
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Thank you. Every donation helps. Regards, Jim Robinson

101 Posted on 06/22/2001 12:29:12 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Received your $40.51 donation through PayPal. Thanks very much. Regards, Jim Robinson

102 Posted on 06/22/2001 12:30:51 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Thank you, Mama_Bear! Regards, Jim Robinson

103 Posted on 06/22/2001 12:32:27 PDT by Jim Robinson
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The LA Times definitely reports all the liberal news that's unfit to print. Thanks, Jim Robinson

104 Posted on 06/22/2001 12:34:23 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Just made a contribution. This thing is just too important.

105 Posted on 06/22/2001 12:47:50 PDT by CaptRon
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Thanks very much. I believe that if we win this case we will have a shot at combatting the liberal biased media. In fact, this victory would be a total upset of the totalitarian propaganda machine. Onward to victory!!

106 Posted on 06/22/2001 13:00:06 PDT by Jim Robinson
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** JimRob bump **

Quite an excellent synopsis and a most useful collection of links. This thread makes for a great FR starter kit. I will send a link to this thread to all on my email address book.

Oh, and thanks for FreeRepublic!

107 Posted on 06/22/2001 13:36:55 PDT by nicollo
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BUMP!

108 Posted on 06/22/2001 13:37:32 PDT by Mama_Bear
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You are very welcome, Jim. There will be more coming when I can scrounge it up. :-)

109 Posted on 06/22/2001 13:41:23 PDT by Mama_Bear
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Thanks again. And I absolutely love your profile page! Go Dawgs! (of course I am a bit biased)

110 Posted on 06/22/2001 13:51:11 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Just sent mine in via the handy dandy plastic taker!

Thank you so much for creating this forum and allowing us to visit with others of a similar nature.

I have every faith that you and Brian will persevere and prove that instigators of this action are jejune and their arguments are bunkum.

111 Posted on 06/22/2001 13:55:32 PDT by RikaStrom
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By the way, here is a page that Amy does: GO Dawgs!

112 Posted on 06/22/2001 14:02:08 PDT by Jim Robinson
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You got that right! Thanks very much. Regards, Jim Robinson

113 Posted on 06/22/2001 14:15:17 PDT by Jim Robinson
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You are very welcome, and thank you very much. Regards, Jim Robinson

114 Posted on 06/22/2001 14:16:40 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Excellent Brief, Jim. We're behind you 100%! The Appellate Brief is beautifully executed, I'm hoping the Ninth Circuit will understand the motivation behind the WP and LAT lawsuit....

115 Posted on 06/22/2001 14:27:07 PDT by KLT
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Thanks. Brian an Bryan put it together. Looks like they did an excellent job! Here's hoping the court sees it our way!

116 Posted on 06/22/2001 14:32:57 PDT by Jim Robinson
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God Bless You, Jim. We've been giving what we can financially, we'll pray for FR! Our hearts are with you!

117 Posted on 06/22/2001 14:38:50 PDT by KLT
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My donation has been sent. Thank You for all you do

118 Posted on 06/22/2001 14:43:53 PDT by deadhead
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Thanks! That Bulldog page is much better than the one I am linked to. I need to check out Amy's page. :-)

119 Posted on 06/22/2001 15:09:04 PDT by Mama_Bear
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"And I absolutely love your profile page!"

Well, thank you so much. That means a lot to me. I thought maybe I had overdone it a bit. LOL!

But, I have to say, St.LOUIE1 deserves a lot of the credit. :-)

120 Posted on 06/22/2001 15:15:38 PDT by Mama_Bear
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BUMP!

121 Posted on 06/22/2001 15:42:04 PDT by Mama_Bear
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By the way, here is a page that Amy does:

It just occured to me what you meant - this is Amy's Bulldog website, she created it and maintains it?! I am impressed. She is very talented, nicely done. I am already linked to it. :-)

122 Posted on 06/22/2001 16:14:28 PDT by Mama_Bear
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The LA Times definitely reports all the liberal news that's unfit to print.

And if they can't find any liberal news, they just make it up as they go along. ;-)

Auntie

123 Posted on 06/22/2001 17:09:59 PDT by Aunt Polgara
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Bump!

124 Posted on 06/22/2001 18:15:35 PDT by Deadeye Division
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Bumpity BUMP!

125 Posted on 06/22/2001 19:58:01 PDT by blackbart1
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"You bet. Thanks very much. Regards, Jim Robinson"

On the way.

126 Posted on 06/22/2001 20:29:09 PDT by Bonez
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$100 on its way from Alaska. FreeRepublic is my only source of information any more. I can always find the stuff I want/need to know right here. Eagles Up!

127 Posted on 06/22/2001 22:06:18 PDT by Kathy in Alaska
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Hello Kathy. Thank you very much. Eagles up!!

128 Posted on 06/22/2001 23:30:26 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Thank you. Regards, Jim Robinson

129 Posted on 06/22/2001 23:31:34 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Sat. morning bump.

130 Posted on 06/23/2001 08:32:52 PDT by Valin
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BUMP!

131 Posted on 06/23/2001 11:10:50 PDT by Mama_Bear
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Bumping by! BUMP!

132 Posted on 06/23/2001 13:26:56 PDT by BeforeISleep
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Here's another article to add to the list:

1765 John Adams
The Role We Play at Free Republic-A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law (1765)

133 Posted on 06/23/2001 13:30:42 PDT by Jim Robinson
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Okay! Will do!

134 Posted on 06/23/2001 13:34:40 PDT by BeforeISleep
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This needs to be read by every Freeper!

135 Posted on 06/23/2001 15:27:38 PDT by McGavin999
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Yes it does, alot of people just don't realize how close we are to losing this. When will people wake up, when it's too late????

136 Posted on 06/23/2001 15:35:30 PDT by BeforeISleep
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"And death struggle with elements of the socialist propaganda machine, namely, the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post,"

I am with you all the way in the court case, you should be able to post their crap, however the "socialist" conspiracy that you point to is based on theory, not fact. If they are Socialist explain this - WDIV (Detroit) (NBC), KPRC (Houston) (NBC), WPLG (Miami) (ABC), WKMG (Orlando) (CBS), KSAT (San Antonio) (ABC), WJXT (Jacksonville) (CBS).

The above are affiliate television stations owned by the Washington Post Company. If indeed the Washington Post Co. is headed by "socialist" stock-holders, middle-managers, Editors (at it's publications and news-desks), and perhaps even the financial officers are a part of the whole thing. General Electric one of the major producers of military and civilian aircraft as well as a major player in the Nuclear power industry owns the NBC parent and Westinghouse another defense/energy player is a part of the ownership of CBS.

Certainly these companies, frequent contractors (huge receivers of TAXPAYER dollars) must be headed by extreme dupes or a part of the conspiracy. Either that or their business dealings are done with complete ignorance.

137 Posted on 06/23/2001 16:51:19 PDT by middle_american
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BUMP!!

138 Posted on 06/23/2001 17:54:12 PDT by BeforeISleep
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Well, it is a fact that the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times promote socialism, as does most of the mainstream media. They hate our Constitution with its strict limits on federal power, and so must destroy it in order to advance their agenda.

Contrary to our Founders and our forefathers who agreed with and ratified the U.S. Constitution, they want a BIG and POWERFUL centralized federal government. They want the federal government to control every aspect of our lives, health, education, welfare, the environment, the economy, religion, charity, business, agriculture, manufacturing, production, transportation, capital, labor... everything. Right down to the amount of water to flush our toilets.

They promote "saving" social security rather than abolishing it. And increasing the confiscatory income tax rather than eliminating the jackbooted IRS and the slave tax. SS is nothing but an unconstitutional socialist wealth redistribution scheme - a Ponzi scheme at that.

They favor high taxes and wasteful government spending on just about any socialist program you can imagine. They defend corrupt politicians as long as they are liberal democrats. Sure, they wrote editorials admitting that Clinton and Gore were corrupt (how could they not when it was so obvious to every man, woman and child in the nation). But then they went ahead and urged their readers to vote them in anyway. In their liberal eyes, anyone who is not a Republican (or conservative) deserves to be elected or reelected, no matter how corrupt.

They advocate nationalizing our health care system. There is absolutely no reason in the world and no constitutional authority for the federal government to get involved in health care. Just one more huge abusive government program for the politicians to screw up and corrupt, while the taxpayers and private citizens take it in the shorts.

Directly contradicting the second amendment, they advocate gun control. Actually, they are in favor of disarming the American citizen.

They advocate ignoring the fourth amendment and authorizing no knock raids, government snooping into our bank accounts and business records, wiretapping, and other covert information gathering tactics.

They promote liberal activist judges and liberal twisting and distorting of the Constitution. They promote world government institutions and programs such as the United Nations, and other schemes and international treaties that would dilute our national sovereinty and subject us to world powers and tyrants who would disregard our constitutional protections.

In short, anyone who reads the articles and editorials from these sources and does not see them for what they are, big government advocates, are probably blinded by the socialist utopian dreams themselves.

Yes, we are at war with the socialists. We have met the enemy and they are our national socalled free-press.

139 Posted on 06/23/2001 18:52:13 PDT by Jim Robinson
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"In short, anyone who reads the articles and editorials from these sources and does not see them for what they are, big government advocates, are probably blinded by the socialist utopian dreams themselves."

You didn't respond at all to the information I showed you.

140 Posted on 06/24/2001 00:34:45 PDT by middle_american
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I didn't say it was a conspiracy, the media is simply a product of liberal education. The entire political spectrum has been in a leftward slide for over a century as government controlled schools and universities turn out more and more liberal product. As a result, the media is liberal, the people are liberal, the politicians are liberal, the judiciary is liberal and the government at all levels is liberal. Liberalism begats more liberalism. Liberalism is like a plague. If left unchecked, it spreads and lays waste to all humanity within its reach. The progressives and socialists of the last century have done their job well.

And obviously, this is not a problem confined only to the USA. In fact, most other nations are already socialist or communist or ruled by dictators or tyrants. Great Britain is socialist. France and most of Europe. China. Canada. Australia. Because of our conservative heritage and the stubborness of the few remaining individualists who refuse to give up our cherished Constitution and Bill of Rights, especially the first and second amendments, America is one of the last relatively free nations on Earth. But freedom is fading fast.

In my opinion, both of the major politcal parties have shifted left. The democrats are way beyond liberalism. They are now full-fledged socialists. The Republicans are the new liberals. There are very few conservatives in office in either party. None of the Democrats respect the Constitution or the concepts of limited government and separated powers as established by our Founders, and the Republicans are not much better. Neither party respects the sovereignty of our state governments, and the general population has been dumbed down by the liberal state run schools to the point that they have no idea what the true purpose of government is or what liberty is all about, and they do not know enough to be alarmed at the leftward trend. They're fat and happy and smug in the false security of a benevolent government and its saftey net. Safety net? Truth be known, it's more like a death shroud.

As far as corporations are concerned, they grease the political skids by providing campaign cash in return for favors rendered. Corporations play both sides of the aisle. And the taxpayers and consumers get stuck paying the freight.

141 Posted on 06/24/2001 01:54:34 PDT by Jim Robinson
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"The democrats are way beyond liberalism."

Bill Clinton, Al Gore, NAFTA and NAFTA expansion to the FTAA - both the pres, former vice-prez and the most popular Dem for President in 2004 FULL FAVOR these deals. There must be a whole lot of Socialists running through the halls of Corporate America.

142 Posted on 06/24/2001 09:15:30 PDT by middle_american
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Short-term-ology. The corporate officers and functionaries read the economic tea leaves and see that the short-term dollar is made more readily, or the short-term risk abbetted by greasing the federal gears. Don't have to be socialists -- just a "booster" in the Sinclair Lewis sense. Easier to buy legislation and legislators in the socialist model, perhaps, certainly so in the unaccountable-to-the-Constitution mode. And once you own a piece of the legislative or regulatory pie, it's hard to give it up.

The Constitutional mode of Federal Government is a very hard road to hoe -- it requires men of dedication to Liberty and Justice, and not mere politicians. In politics, one has to be political, but our Constitution requires that men (and women) often make hard and long term judgements.

Witness the adept Democratic politician, Grover Cleveland, who refused to allow federal flood relief funds because they were un-Constitutional.

But still, after a century of the secular socialists in charge of our education (post John Dewey), and about the same length of time with highly corruptable fiat money run by the unelected Fed, we do have a lot of socialistic thinking everywhere -- including boardrooms. The larger the business, probably the more so.

143 Posted on 06/24/2001 09:40:45 PDT by bvw
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You know, worse than the enemies that are before us, in plain sight, are the ones that are crawling around where we don't see them right now. There are alot of people out there that want FreeRepublic gone. We should support Jim Robinson and this site, with this in mind. Everyone should remember that there may, no...WILL be other attacks in the future! Best we be prepared for them now!

144 Posted on 06/24/2001 12:58:21 PDT by BeforeISleep
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Please support the FreeRepublic Defense Fund.

145 Posted on 06/25/2001 12:37:26 PDT by Mama_Bear
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Thanks for the links in your post Mr Robinson.
As everyone can read here-this has been an expensive legal battle - send in funds to FR.com for Legal Defense!

(I hope you don't mind me posting this thread-I had already sent my email addy to Mud, Old Lady and goldilucky - if I was booted.)
I REPEAT AGAIN....
GOFREEREPUBLIC.COMGO!

146 Posted on 09/05/2001 19:17:15 PDT by ChaseR
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bttt

147 Posted on 09/05/2001 19:28:37 PDT by ChaseR
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bump! Thanks, ChaseR

148 Posted on 09/05/2001 22:35:47 PDT by goldilucky
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Thank you Jim Robinson for posting this.

I believe Mr. Buckley is the same attorney representing Glenn Spencer of VCT regarding fair use doctrine and First Amendment Right to freedom of speech. I saw him at a public meeting on Sunday regarding the illegal immigration out in California and the lawsuit filed on behalf of Glenn Spencer regarding the omission of Spencer's ad regarding the illegal immigration problem and Antonio Villaraigosa.

149 Posted on 09/05/2001 22:42:48 PDT by goldilucky
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Howdy JimRob...do you happen to know what happened to posts 2-6 of this thread? Never seen a thread do this unless what someone posted was breakin' FR rules of conduct, and I can't recall that they were...especially the post #5 that I had replied to. Gremlins at work again?

Utmost FReegards, fearless Leader...MUD

150 Posted on 09/06/2001 07:25:06 PDT by Mudboy Slim
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Weird...actually I had posted this comment to This Thread and got bumped to here. Wish I understood 'puters better than I do.

Sorry to bother you, sir...MUD

151 Posted on 09/06/2001 07:29:23 PDT by Mudboy Slim
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152 Posted on 10/11/2001 12:59:53 PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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153 Posted on 10/11/2001 13:11:28 PDT by Registered
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154 Posted on 10/11/2001 13:24:03 PDT by KC Burke
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155 Posted on 10/11/2001 14:01:03 PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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156 Posted on 10/11/2001 14:07:07 PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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157 Posted on 10/11/2001 14:25:54 PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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158 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:01:16 PDT by Bryan
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159 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:02:30 PDT by Bryan
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160 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:09:05 PDT by 1rudeboy
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161 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:22:36 PDT by TKEman
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162 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:24:04 PDT by KC Burke
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163 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:27:45 PDT by John Robinson
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164 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:30:12 PDT by TKEman
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165 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:33:01 PDT by dirtboy
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166 Posted on 10/11/2001 15:50:14 PDT by Lowelljr
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167 Posted on 10/11/2001 16:23:48 PDT by 1rudeboy
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168 Posted on 10/23/2001 01:23:12 PDT by Bryan
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169 Posted on 10/23/2001 07:25:42 PDT by PhiKapMom
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170 Posted on 10/23/2001 09:44:52 PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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175 Posted on 01/28/2002 11:58:11 PST by Clarity
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