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A parent who secretly audio-taped a workshop in which Massachusetts state employees gave teen-agers graphic instruction in how to perform homosexual sex acts is being sued by a workshop presenter who was fired after the recording was made public.
Margot Abels, a seven-year employee of the state's education department, worked as an HIV-AIDS program coordinator and was one of the three state-employee panel members conducting the workshop.
Abels claims her civil rights were violated by the parent who made the recording and by Education Commissioner David Driscoll, who subsequently fired her.
Previously reported by WorldNetDaily, the workshop was held at Tufts University on Saturday, March 25, and was titled, "What They Didn't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class: Workshop for Youth Only, Ages 14-21." The teen workshop was one of many held at the day-long event, which also included sessions training teachers how to inject positive homosexual themes into public school materials -- down to the elementary-school level.
Teachers who attended the conference, which was sponsored by the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, received state development credits for their participation. The Massachusetts Department of Education has historically provided funding to GLSEN through the state's "Safe Schools Program."
Scott Whiteman, a parent and executive director of the Massachusetts-based Parents Rights Coalition, also attended the conference and secretly recorded the teen sex workshop. Whiteman and PRC's president Brian Camenker distributed the recording, which they peppered with their own commentary, until a gag order drafted by lawyers at Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders and signed by a superior court judge forced the group to stop. The original language of the order precluded media reports of the recording, prompting involvement by the Fox News Channel. The network filed a "Motion to Intervene," claiming the gag order was "unconstitutional prior restraint." Judge Allan van Gestel said an exemption for the media would effectively defeat the purpose of the gag order. Even so, he was compelled to alter the order to allow media use of the recording.
Whiteman, the Parents Rights Coalition "and any persons in active concert or participation therewith" are still bound by the order, which was granted on the grounds that the recording was made illegally. "Interception" of communication without notification of participating parties is prohibited in Massachusetts. Massachusetts News, an Internet publication that first broke the story of the conference, has continued to distribute the audio recording in light of the amended gag order.
A lawyer and the news outlet's publisher, Ed Pawlick, said Abels' lawsuit is an intimidation tactic. "The reason they're doing this is to harass ... people. They don't have any valid claim that I can see," Pawlick told WorldNetDaily. "But any lawsuit has to be taken seriously," he added. Pawlick noted legal costs for Whiteman's and Camenker's defense could reach $200,000 -- enough to silence PRC's operation and bankrupt the two men.
Abels says after the negative publicity generated by Whiteman and Camenker, she received threats and abusive calls. Several days after the negative publicity began, Driscoll fired Abels. Now suing Driscoll and PRC, Abels says her civil rights were violated -- including her right to free speech. She is also suing Whiteman and Camenker individually for violations of Massachusetts' anti-wiretapping law. In her lawsuit, Abels seeks reinstatement to her job, damages for lost wages and damages for emotional distress.
"The actions of Massachusetts conservative groups and of my former colleagues at the Department of Education are unconscionable.
Losing the staff of the AIDS program and dismantling award-winning, nationally-recognized and proven-effective programming will continue to have a tragic impact on the young people we were hired to serve," Abels said on Nov. 27, the day she filed suit.
Abels' attorney, Betsy Ehrenberg, added, "The Department of Education,
under Commissioner Driscoll, shamefully caved in to orchestrated
pressure and heinous threats directed against Ms. Abels, at the expense
of her constitutional rights. In effect, the state managed to reward
Whiteman and Camenker for breaking the law by giving them what they
wanted -- an end to the employment of dedicated workers like my client
and the erosion of well-respected, life-saving sexuality education
programs in the Commonwealth."
"These actions send a clear message that the Department does not support
sexuality and HIV-prevention education, especially when that education
targets groups at increased risk -- like gay, lesbian and bisexual
youth,"
Ehrenberg added. "This also tells school-based educators across the
state to think twice when answering students' questions and teaching
long-established lessons about sexuality and prevention -- something
that the vast majority of parents in our country support."
During the workshop in question, Abels reportedly praised the homosexual
practice of "fisting" -- widely condemned by medical authorities as
dangerous -- saying that it often gets a bad rap.
Whiteman and Camenker are represented by Chester Darling, known for his
historic defense of the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council in
their fight to prevent homosexuals from marching in the veterans' annual
St. Patrick's Day parade. Darling says his clients have not yet been
served and he did not wish to comment on the case.
Battery Commander Bryan,
Fire at will...
that does make my blood boil. Stupid teacher and administrator.
I wish I could feel shock. But the activist homosexuals have taken things to such an extreme, including the manipulation and horrid infiltration into the spaces where our American children should be PROTECTED, that I can only feel deep disgust and a great deal of sadness. I mean, this woman who says FISTING has gotten a ' bad rap ' from doctors is SUING parents who attempted to show the world the sickness she is promoting? The world had gone upside down.
Fire at will...
Who is will?
"The actions of Massachusetts conservative groups and of my former colleagues at the Department of Education are unconscionable.
Losing the staff of the AIDS program and dismantling award-winning, nationally-recognized and proven-effective programming will
continue to have a tragic impact on the young people we were hired to serve," Abels said on Nov. 27, the day she filed suit.
There's almost nothing as sickening as whining child molesters after their taxpayer funding is cut off.
Pawlick noted legal costs for Whiteman's and Camenker's defense could reach $200,000 -- enough to silence PRC's operation and bankrupt the two men.
I assume they will be or already have established a legal defense fund. I don't have much, but I would do what I could to help.
NOT "Will" silly, will.
Now go sharpen your pencils there will be a test in ten minutes...
You're initial reply echos my exact mutterings as I read this article. OH MY GOD!! I can only add - God, please help us.
The actions of Massachusetts conservative groups and of my former colleagues at the Department of Education are unconscionable.
What the He** does this person remotely know about having a conscious?
Neither the state nor individual educators or proponesnts have the right to seal off content of instructional materials.
Whiteman and PRC's president Brian Camenker distributed the recording, which they peppered with their own commentary, until a gag order drafted by lawyers at Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders and signed by a superior court judge forced the group to stop. The original language of the order precluded media reports of the recording, prompting involvement by the Fox News Channel. The network filed a "Motion to Intervene," claiming the gag order was "unconstitutional prior restraint." Judge Allan van Gestel said an exemption for the media would effectively defeat the purpose of the gag order.
Napster/Gnutella/other-distributed-file-sharing-systems are our friends.
Thanks for the post. This story has to stay on the front page. BTW, did you know that homosexuals do NOT make up 10% of the population but really only 1% yet they are wildly over-represented among child molesters? Read Joseph Sobran's recent column on this topic at
http://www.sobran.com/columns/010419.shtml
cut and paste onto your address bar
...dismantling award-winning, nationally-recognized and proven-effective programming...
Programming is a good term for it.
This isn't actually from me--it's from my teacher's assistant husband (who is back in school after 24 years of active duty military service, to be a CONSERVATIVE high school history teacher):
"We don't have this kind of problem in Oklahoma. If you guys don't like what they're doing in Massachusetts, MOVE. If you REALLY don't like it and you're FIGHTERS, GO TO SCHOOL, get your DEGREE, get your TEACHING CERTIFICATE, and go to work for the school districts that have been taken over by the liberal pro-kiddie sex. Surely homosexuality isn't the only bad thing they're teaching the kids in Massachusetts.
VENTING ONLINE isn't going to change anything. We have to take the system back from the liberals! If conservatives are running the schools, schools will be conservative! If you're tired of the darkness, bring in the light! Fiat lux! The kids NEED US to save them from bread & circus & fisting dems!
She is also suing Whiteman and Camenker individually for violations of Massachusetts' anti-wiretapping law.
This loser doesn'r know to quit while ahead. She hasn't seen anything yet!
How can it violate wiretapping law? That addresses private conversations. That could hardly apply to a workshop held in a convention hall.
The only reason I can think of to keep the events a secret is to avoid the possibility of violating a bunch of laws on Abel's part.
To cut to the chase, where can we send contributions for the defense of Whiteman and Camenker?
I hate to say it but we will have to suffer more and more of these outrages before the sheeple wake up and see what's happening. As the legal system continues to deteriorates I suspect people will more and more begin to take matters into their own hands.
During the workshop in question, Abels reportedly praised the
homosexual practice of "fisting" -- widely condemned by medical authorities as
dangerous -- saying that it often gets a bad rap.
Come on Ms. Abel, BE LOUD and BE PROUD.
(funny how the "gay pride" goes into stealth mode whenever the gay lifestyle
gets a real public airing)
Agreed....1000%
It's okay for the government and its agents and employees to spy on you with Echelon and Carnivore and infrared cameras from helicopters and stoplight traffic cameras and face-recognition surveillance at ball games, but don't you DARE think about carrying around a tape recorder and taping whatever is within earshot unless you want ten years in jail and a ten thousand dollar fine.
Why would anyone want to home school ? If they have standard tests the poor homeschool kids wouldn't know how to answer the question "How many ways can lesbians have sex?
Losing the staff of the AIDS program and dismantling award-winning, nationally-recognized and proven-effective programming will continue to have a tragic impact on the young people we were hired to serve,"
Note the words, "proven-effective programming." They, evidently successful at what they do: teaching children how to perform sex acts with others of their sex. This "educator" is the AIDS/HIV program coordinator. But I seem to remember in earlier posts about this issue that during her workshop, she never once discussed "protected" sex. Hmmmmm. I guess protection isn't part of her curriculum.
BTW, does anyone else get the willies whenever they see or hear the acronym "GLSEN"? For some reason, I think they are deliberately trying to be prurient and it disgusts me.
Neither the state nor individual educators or proponesnts have the right to seal off content of instructional materials.
You have made a great point, RLK. What about Freedom of Information?
FISTGATE SPECIAL REPORT
Students Given Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex See also: Fistgate Scandal In A Nutshell
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This is a reprint of a story which broke the Fistgate scandal in the May issue of Massachusetts News. We advise caution. Even though this is what the state is teaching to children as young as 12-years of age, it is extremely offensive. Over 1,000,000 citizens have now seen this story which was written by two of the outraged parents.
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By Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman
"Fisting [forcing one's entire hand into another person's rectum or vagina] often gets a bad rap....[It's] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with...[and] to put you into an exploratory mode."
The above quotation comes from Massachusetts Department of Education employees describing the pleasures of homosexual sex to a group of high school students at a state-sponsored workshop on March 25, 2000.
On March 25, a statewide conference, called "Teach-Out," was sponsored by the Massachusetts Department of Education, the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth, and the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network.
Among the goals were to build more Gay/Straight Alliances in Massachusetts and expand homosexual teaching into the lower grades. Scores of gay-friendly teachers and administrators attended. They received state "professional development credits."
Teenagers and children as young as 12 were encouraged to come from around the state, and many were bussed in from their home districts. Homosexual activists from across the country were also there. To say that the descriptions below of workshops and presentations of this state-sponsored event for educators and children are "every parent's nightmare," does not do them justice. It is beyond belief that this could be happening at all. One music teacher who attended out of curiosity said that she could not sleep for several nights afterwards and had nightmares about it.
"Queer sex for youth, 14-21"
In one well-attended workshop, "What They Didn't Tell You About Queer Sex & Sexuality In Health Class: A Workshop For Youth Only, Ages 14-21," the three homosexual presenters acting in their professional capacities coaxed about 20 children into talking openly and graphically about homosexual sex. The three presenters, who described themselves as homosexual, were:
Margot E. Abels, Coordinator, HIV/AIDS Program, Massachusetts Dept. of Education
Julie Netherland, Coordinator, HIV/AIDS Program, Massachusetts Dept. of Education
Michael Gaucher, Consultant, HIV/AIDS Program, Massachusetts Dept. of Public Health
The workshop syllabus included:
"What's it like to be young, queer and beginning to date?
"Are lesbians at risk for HIV?
"We will address the information you want about queer sexuality and some of the politics that prevent us from getting our needs met."
The workshop opened with the three public employees asking the children "how they knew, as gay people, whether or not they've had sex." Questions were thrown around the room about whether oral sex was "sex," to which the Department of Public Health employee stated, "If that's not sex, then the number of times I've had sex has dramatically decreased, from a mountain to a valley, baby." Eventually the answer presented itself, and it was determined that whenever an orifice was filled with genitalia, then sex had occurred. The Department of Public Health employee, Michael Gaucher, had the following exchange with one student, who appeared to be about 16 years old:
Michael Gaucher: "What orifices are we talking about?"
Student: [hesitation]
Michael Gaucher: "Don't be shy, honey; you can do it."
Student: "Your mouth."
Michael Gaucher: "Okay."
Student: "Your ass."
Michael Gaucher: "There you go."
Student: "Your pussy. That kind of place."
But since sex occurred "when an orifice was filled," the next question was how lesbians could "have sex." Margot Abels discussed whether a dildo had to be involved; when it was too big or too small; and what homosexual resources students could consult to get similar questions answered.
Role playing and "carpet munching"
Then the children were asked to role-play. One student was to act the part of "a young lesbian who's really enraptured with another woman, and it's really coming down to the wire and you're thinking about having sex." The other student played the "hip GSA (gay, straight alliance) lesbian advisor, who you feel you can talk to." The "counseling" included discussions of lesbian sex, oral-vaginal contact, or "carpet munching," as one student put it. The student asked whether it would smell like fish. At that point the session turned to another subject.
"A lesson in fisting?"
There was a five minute pause so that all of the teenagers could write down questions for the homosexual presenters. The first question was read by Julie Netherland, "What's fisting?"
A student answered this question by informing the class that "fisting" is when you put your "whole hand into the ass or pussy" of another. When a few of the students winced, the Department of Public Health employee offered, "A little known fact about fisting: you don't make a fist like this. It's like this." He formed his hand into the shape of a tear drop rather than a balled fist. He informed the children that it was much easier.
Margot Abels told the students that "fisting" is not about forcing your hand into somebody's "hole, opening or orifice" if they don't want it there. She said that "usually" the person was very relaxed and opened him or herself up to the other. She informed the class that it is a very emotional and intense experience.
At this point, a youngster of about 16 asked why someone would want to do that. He stated that if the hand were pulled out quickly, the whole thing didn't sound very appealing to him. Margot Abels was quick to point out that although fisting "often gets a really bad rap," it usually isn't about the pain, "not that we're putting that down." Margot Abels informed him and the class that "fisting" was "an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with." When a child asked the question, "Why would someone do this?" Margot Abels provided a comfortable response to the children, in order to "put them into an exploratory mode."
"Rubbing each others' clits..."
Michael Gaucher presented the next question, "Do lesbians rub their clits together?"
Michael Gaucher and Margot Abels asked the kids if they thought it was possible and whether someone would do a "hand-diagram" for the class. No one volunteered, but a girl who looked about 15 or 16 then stepped up to the board and drew a three foot high vagina and labeled each of the labia, the clitoris, and "put up inside the 'G'-spot." While drawing, Michael Gaucher told her to use the "pink" chalk, to which Margot Abels responded, "Not everyone is pink, honey." All of the children laughed.
After the chalk vagina was complete, the children remarked on the size of the "clit," and the presenters stated that that was a gifted woman. Then Margot Abels informed all of the young girls that, indeed, you can rub your "clitori" together, either with or without clothes and "you can definitely orgasm from it." Michael Gaucher told the kids that "there is a name for this: tribadism," which he wrote on the board and told one girl who looked about 14 to "bring that vocabulary word back to Bedford." Julie Netherland informed the children that it wasn't too difficult because, "When you are sexually aroused, your clit gets bigger."
"Should you spit after you suck another boy (or a man)?" Michael Gaucher read the following from a card: "Cum and calories: Spit versus swallow and the health concerns." Gaucher informed the children that although he didn't know the calorie count of male ejaculation, he has "heard that it's sweeter if people eat celery." He then asked the boys, "Is it rude not to swallow?" Many of the high school boys mumbled "No," but one about the age of 16 said emphatically, "Oh no!" One boy, again about the age of 16, offered his advice on avoiding HIV/AIDS transmission while giving oral sex by not brushing your teeth or eating course food for four hours before you "go down on a guy," "because then you probably don't want to be swallowing cum."
Another question asked was whether oral sex was better with tongue rings. A 16-year-old student murmured, "Yes," to which all of the children laughed. Michael Gaucher said, "There you have it" and stated something to the effect that the debate has ended.
Use a condom? It's your decision, really.
One often hears that there is an aggressive HIV/AIDS prevention campaign, but the session ran 55 minutes before the first mention of "protection" and safer sex came. In the context of the "safer sex" discussion, however, it was pointed out that these children could make an "informed decision" not to use a condom. Outside in the conference hall, the children could easily obtain as many condoms, vaginal condoms and other contraceptive devices as they wished from various organizations which distribute such.
Well, yes...it really is about sex!
Another popular session was presented by the same three public employees in their professional capacity and was called, "Putting the 'Sex' Back Into Sexual Orientation: Classroom Strategies for Health & Sexuality Educators."
The workshop included:
What does it mean to say "being gay, lesbian and bisexual isn't about sex?...How can we deny that sexuality is central for all of us? How do we learn to address the unique concerns of queer youth?...This workshop is for educators to examine strategies for integrating sexuality education and HIV prevention content specific to gay, lesbian and bisexual students into the classroom and GSA's....additional strategies will be discussed."
The three presenters now assumed the task of teaching teachers how to facilitate discussions about "queer sex" with their students.
Tired of denying it
Margot Abels opened by telling the room full of teachers (and two high school students), "We always feel like we are fighting against people who deny publicly, who say privately, that being queer is not at all about sex... We believe otherwise. We think that sex is central to every single one of us and particularly queer youth."
Margot Abels, Julie Netherland and Michael Gaucher reviewed a few "campaigns" that have been used to demonstrate to queer youth how to best "be safe" while still enjoying homosexual sex.
The campaign, "Respect yourself, protect yourself," was thought to be good in getting the message to kids that they should use protection, but since it made children who didn't protect themselves feel bad, it ultimately was a poor message. Michael Gaucher pointed out that children "with an older partner that they are not feeling they can discuss things with, does that mean that they don't respect themselves?"
The campaign, "No sex, no problem," was ridiculed, as the campaign assumed that children could opt not to have sex. Additionally, the campaign made those children who had already had sex feel bad or think they had a problem, since they had had sex.
After reviewing a few of the campaigns, Margot Abels described the project she works on. The "Gay/Straight Alliance HIV Education Project" goes to five different schools each year conducting up to eight "HIV prevention sessions" in that school's gay club. These same presenters who just told a group of children how to properly position their hands for "fisting" were now telling a room full of educators that they would visit their schools and conduct the same workshops for their students.
An enormous amount of very disturbing material was distributed at the conference. Much of it encourages young children to become actively engaged in homosexual activities. The Sidney Borum Community Health Center table was giving out a cassette sized "pocket sex" kit, which included two condoms, two antiseptic "moist" towelettes, and six bandages, which were for "when the sex got really rough," according to the high school volunteer behind the desk. There was a supply of condoms supplied by both Sidney Borum and Planned Parenthood, all of which were for the taking. Children as young as 12 or 13 participating and receiving "information" and materials.
But most shocking of all was that there was an eerie sense of solidarity in the air, against "those bigots who would stop our progress."
Fistgate Scandal In A Nutshell
Since most citizens still do not understand the significance of the Fistgate scandal, here it is in a nutshell:
Should the schools be encouraging teenagers to be sexually active as they did at Fistgate?
Has the homosexual community violated our trust? Do they take money that is supposed to be for violence and HIV prevention and use it instead to promote sexual activity by teenagers?
Is the teacher, Margot E. Abels (who was terminated by the state as a result of the scandal) correct when she told the Boston Globe that she was only a scapegoat? She said that what was done at Fistgate (by her and other homosexual activists) is "absolutely sanctioned by the department [of education]." She said, "It's standard....The department has always given us its full support - until now."
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The words from Apocalypse Now! come to mind.....the Horror, the Horror.....
Where can we donate to the PRC legal defense fund?
Italics off!
I wonder if her e-mail gets forwarded.
Margot_E_Abels@doe.mass.edu
FYI
Abels reportedly praised the homosexual practice of "fisting" -- widely condemned by medical authorities as dangerous -- saying that it often gets a bad rap.
"Driving 100mph down the freeway often gets a bad rap, too, but if you have an airbag then the risk of bodily harm is reduced somewhat."
This is what this cretin is telling kids--you're gonna do it anyway (when in reality the authorities are giving their tacit approval) so at least try to make it through alive.
During the workshop in question, Abels reportedly praised the homosexual practice of "fisting" -- widely condemned by medical authorities as dangerous -- saying that it often gets a bad rap.
Totally preposterous! Obviously the homosexuals' true agenda is to recruit kids through these "sex workshops." Homosexuals should stop interfering with the normal development of youngsters. They have no business going to schools and confusing young minds.
FYI
FYI
#24: This is so disgusting. I can't believe I read it again--it was originally posted a year or more ago with much discussion. There was a supply of condoms supplied by both Sidney Borum and Planned Parenthood . . .
Now why would Planned Parenthood be interested in providing condoms to people who don't breed?
This would be a dandy case for Court TV to broadcast.
i got the tape a long time ago from massnews.com, and sent it to the school district here. we have home schooled all five of our sons.
nationally-recognized and proven-effective programming
If you send your kids to public schools you have to be brain dead. Public schools are not there to teach your children, they are there to "program" them.
"Losing the staff of the AIDS program and dismantling award-winning, nationally-recognized and proven-effective programming will continue to have a tragic impact on the young people we were hired to serve....
INTERESTING, REVEALING CHOICE OF WORDS, YES?
Ehrenberg added. "This also tells school-based educators across the state to think twice when answering students' questions and teaching long-established lessons about sexuality and prevention..."
Yer darn right.
"Now why would Planned Parenthood be interested in providing condoms to people who don't breed?"
That Maddam is an excellent question.....Well done!!!
Read Joseph Sobran's recent column on this topic at http://www.sobran.com/columns/010419.shtml
Thanks for the link. Excellent article.
Oh yeah.. Yeah..
We don't want anyone to hear what goes on behind the Latex Curtain..
Just send your kids in and shut up..
alas, its too late. they have won the govmint schools, the only thing left is to move all our kids to private or homeschooling situations, and protest the property tax and try to de-fund them. the public scrools themselves are a lost cause....
God have mercy on us all!
Don't forget these workshops were done on the taxpayer's dime. She has a weak case.
Here a link to the address for contributions for Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman at the Parents Rights Coalition website
What happened with the police deptartment? Did they arrest the Doctor?
Pawlick noted legal costs for Whiteman's and Camenker's defense could reach $200,000 -- enough to silence PRC's operation and bankrupt the two men.
Promoting a legal defense fund here on FreeRepublic aside from raising a lot of money worldwide could have two positive results.
1. Save Whiteman and Camenker from financial ruin at the hands of these legal terrorists.
2. Bring financial ruin on the Gay/Lesbian Child Abuse and Recruitment Industry when a counter suit for harassment is filed.
Ping us here if you find any information on such a fund.
I don't know if she received a paycheck, but if she did, would she care to kindly return it. If this is free speech, she was doing this on her own time, if paid the public has a right to know what is going on in a school program.
"Obviously the homosexuals' true agenda is to recruit kids through these "sex workshops."
BINGO!
Lawsuit
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The Lawsuit against the Parents! This is a vicious reprisal by the Boston area
(and national) gay activists in the schools against parents. They have
been very clear that they intend to "punish" us -- and anyone
else -- who gets in their way. Read The Weekly
Standard Article from last summer. This is probably the best
synopsis of the situation. It's written by a New York Post writer. Famed
civil libertarians Alan Dershowitz and Harvey Silverglate are quoted. It
tells is like it is in the chilling Boston political and legal
atmosphere of today. The Tufts
"Fistgate" Conference. Here are links to the whole story
of what happened - and why the homosexual activists want to silence us
so badly. YOU CAN GET A COPY OF THE TAPE FOR YOURSELF. MORE TO COME - In the coming weeks we will be posting more detailed descriptions plus legal documents, including the infamous restraining order against even the entire Boston Media and the State Legislature from discussing the tapes!!
CAN YOU HELP? DONATE? Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman are right now facing up to $100,000 in legal bills, and this case hasn't even gone to trial! They are using all kind of preliminary tactics to make us incur high legal bills. Any donation will be gladly accepted at: Parents Defense Fund (Checks can be made out to:
"Parents Defense Fund") |
Several days after the negative publicity began, Driscoll fired Abels. Now suing Driscoll and PRC, Abels says her civil rights were violated -- including her right to free speech.
What an interesting definition of free speech: "I want to be able to say whatever I want to say. But if you actually go so far as to publicize what it was that I have to say, which I'm pretty sure will get me fired as a result, I'll sue your butt off, because I want to keep my job as a corruptor of the youth."
If you can't say it openly and then accept the consequences of having said it, maybe you shouldn't have said it at all. Repeat after me, Ms. Abels: "Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand. If I refuse to accept the responsibilities, I have no right to exercise the right."
I wonder if she'd like to meet me for a little fisting. The fist, in this case, would go in her face.
"life-saving sexuality education programs" ....fisting?
From 7 Posted on 07/03/2001 12:14:07 PDT by CFW:
"I assume they will be or already have established a legal defense fund. I don't have much, but I would do what I could to help."
From 16 Posted on 07/03/2001 12:33:09 PDT by Publius6961:
"To cut to the chase, where can we send contributions for the defense of Whiteman and Camenker?"
Please visit and support the Parents' Rights Coalition. See About Parents Rights Coalition - How to contact us for information about how to contribute.
See The Massachusetts News Fistgate Archive articles:
Homosexual Lawyers Try to Hide What Happened at Fistgate By Ed Oliver, The Massachusetts News, March 26, 2001
<< "The tape recording of her workshop, which was made by the parents, showed that she and others taught about “fisting,” oral sex and other sexual acts...
Darling said he could understand their desire to hide the facts.
“In my opinion, your client was involved in the commission of a crime, the dissemination of harmful material to minor children,” he wrote..." >>
'Parents' No Longer Recognized By Schools - Daycare Centers Are Closely Monitored, By Tom Duggan, The Massachusetts News:
The strategy, according to GLSEN members who taught at Fistgate, is to promote homosexuality in schools through casual conversations between students and their gay teachers. There were two workshops at Fistgate that focused on very young children.
The anonymous teacher who attended said, "This is more than just a group of individuals who are looking for friends to support them in their daily struggles with their lifestyle. This is a political agenda. This is how people with an agenda sneak their way into the schools and influence the minds of our children whether we like that or not. And parents have little or no say. What is really baffling to me is that the parents are not more informed about their children being exposed to this stuff on a regular basis. Part of the problem is that the media doesn't pay any attention to what is going on." >>
Students Given Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex By Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman, The Massachusetts News, May 2000
<< "...Among the goals were to build more Gay/ Straight Alliances in Massachusetts and expand homosexual teaching into the lower grades. Scores of gay-friendly teachers and administrators attended. They received state"professional development credits. "Teenagers and children as young as 12 were encouraged to come from around the state, and many were bussed in from their home districts. Homosexual activists from across the country were also there..." >>
Fistgate II Teaches More Sexual Activity for Young ‘Homosexuals’ - Held in same building as last year, but this year included more students and sex kit By Ed Oliver, The Massachusetts News, March 26, 2001:
<< "Fistgate II was held on Saturday in the same building at Tufts University as last year with the same message about how to practice homosexual sex.
More students attended this year. Out of approximately 650 attendees, about 400 of those were students.
Kits of plastic gloves intended for “fisting” or oral sex were distributed at Planned Parenthood’s table in the lobby...,/p>
There was a heightened sense of security with many Tufts campus police being highly visible in order to stop parents from seeing what occurred at the conference.
Although Tufts University was able to claim ignorance about the event last year, they obviously became complicit this year when they welcomed the conference back and provided the security muscle to keep the strategy sessions and indoctrination of the children running smoothly..." >>
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FYI - Re: 55 Posted on 07/03/2001 16:45:01 PDT by EdReform...
Bump. May God help us. And forgive us.
I've got such a long list of people who need a good asskicking... what's one more?
Not only are teachers suing parents, teachers are encouraging children to sue parents. Excerpt from June print release of the Alliance for the Separation of School and State:
Dear Friend of Education,I'm outraged at the audacity of public school authorities and the intrusiveness of their agenda!
Let me explain.
I had the opportunity to meet Columbine survivor Mark Taylor, his mother and a former member of the Colorado State School Board at the Denver airport last month, just after the second anniversary of the Columbine massacre.
Mark has left public school and has been on home study since he was shot seven times and left for dead. I talked with him long into the night about his recovery and his schooling. He told me of the intense pressure put on him to return to Columbine High School. I was apalled as I heard him recount how one school authority told him...
"If your mom is the problem, money can be found to hire a lawyer to sue her so you can return to Columbine. . ."
Marshall Fritz
President
Alliance for the Separation of School and State
"Losing the staff of the AIDS program and dismantling award-winning, nationally-recognized and proven-effective programming will continue to have a tragic impact on the young people we were hired to serve,"
Funny...."tragic impact on young people" was most likely the very reason this instruction session was taped in the first place.
God bless
I can see that you are as disgusted as I am by these creatures. How outrageous that we pay people like this with our tax dollars!
I mean, this woman who says FISTING has gotten a ' bad rap ' from doctors is SUING parents who attempted to show the world the sickness she is promoting? The world had gone upside down.
One of these days, I am afraid, one of these days.......
May God help us. And forgive us.
Reading this article has given me a stomach ache. How disgusting and sad that our children are being exposed to such perversion. I am thankful that my children are out of the public school system, and I pray that they are ever-vigilant when they begin to have children of their own. Just think how far the homosexuals have gotten with their "agenda."
Kayak, you are right: God have mercy on us all!
Ah yes. The old "civil rights were violated" ploy.
What about the parent's civil rights?
"'Interception' of communication without notification of participating parties is prohibited in Massachusetts."
The law on 'interception' of communication can and must only be related to private matters - not public gatherings , and in this instance, a public gathering hosted by Massachusetts taxpayers
IMHO this judge has his head so far up his esquire, to remove it would blind him.
By his dubious honor's rational, the rebroadcast of a news conference or public commentary of any kind would be 'unconscionable' ( From a personal standpoint shutting down the grunts of the globalists rich and their lap dog esquires would be like going to heaven.). But one must take the bad with the good.
This judge's ruling could only be reasonable under one, and only one condition - the replay of a news conference conducted by the hero of Chapaqudic [misspelled?], teddy 'bridges are scary' kennedy. Nothing worst than witnessing a snorting fat a*s pig pretending he's a Irish Setter.
Thanks for the flag......bumping some MA Freepers.
FYI BUMP
Those people have a lot of power and stick together.
Exactly which side are "those people" on in this case? In case you didn't know it, Brian Camenker, the head of the Parents Rights Coalition, is one of "those people."
You are right on target. While being able to receive a teaching credential may be a stretch, get involved in the PTA and School Site Councils. Stay true to your conservative views, be straight and trustworthy, take the small victories and be patient. A calm overtaking will work better in the long run.
"What the He** does this person remotely know about having a conscious?"
Do you mean conscience? I'm not criticizing you because you used the wrong word but when was the last time the word conscience was used in the media? It is another one of those politically incorrect terms that has been filtered out of the culture.
The reason I bring it up is because I accidentally said the word conscience in front of a teenager and he asked what I meant. Before attempting to explain I asked if they taught what a conscience is in school. He said no.
That's just great kids today are not taught what a conscience is but they know all about fisting!
Is the address current, and is there an effort being made to collect funds and fight the suit? The link in the yellow rectangle doesn't work.
Take the kids out of the school system. The public schools are a disaster. This stuff is the tip of the iceberg for the liberal agenda in the schools. Own the schools, own the kids, own the future.
Leave now. Don't wait for more incidents like this.
Homeschool.
Teach them the constitution at least.
Go to my link at reply #46. Everything works there.
I wonder if she'd like to meet me for a little fisting. The fist, in this case, would go in her face.
ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was starting to think "down her throat...."
The people in the homosexual lifestyle sure preach about being open and out of the closet (and literally let everything hang out at their parades), but they sure do like to keep hidden their radical homosexual agenda that they're trying to push on the youth.
Who is will?
What did Will do?
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BTTT
During the workshop in question, Abels reportedly praised the homosexual practice of "fisting" --
Ahh Massachusetts, what a wonderful place to raise kids....
"Ahh Massachusetts, what a wonderful place to raise kids...."
The problem is the queer agenda is spreading to all states. The queer agenda must be defeated!
What happened with the police deptartment? Did they arrest the Doctor?
See further discussion of this topic here
Trav makes a cameo appearance!
I read this thread yesterday at work. What a joke.
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What about the parent's civil rights?
White, Christian, heterosexuals have no civil rights!
What about the parent's civil rights?
White, Christian, heterosexuals have no civil rights!
White, Christian, heterosexuals have no civil rights!
Perhaps, but the guy the leftists are suing is a Jew.
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Look up to see the inbound comets.
Try this; Parents Rights Coalition
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God, the inmates are running the asylum.
You hit the nail right on the head. The inmates are running the asylum. You know if any of us were to talk this way to someone else's kids, we'd be listed on the national register of sexual predators. Of course Mass has laws against that too. Thank God none of my kids were taken to this "seminar", and now that I know about, they won't be. I am having serious doubts about letting my ten year old return to the public school in september. I personally know most of the teachers, this is a small town, and I do trust them. But the snakes that are slithering in, that's another story. There is an awful lot of homos around here, we do have a local college that breeds them. The name of it is: Simon's Rock of Bard College. It is an Early College that accepts kids after sophomore year of high school. This college was one of the first schools to experience a school shooting incident, when a certain Wayne Lo, got fed up with having the liberal agenda shoved down his throat and decided to get a gun and fix things. Of course, that was the gun's fault.
Read Joseph Sobran's recent column on this topic at http://www.sobran.com/columns/010419.shtml
Thanks for the link. Excellent article.
You bet. Conservative regards
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"This story has to stay on the front page..."
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Interview with a Parents' Rights Activist: Brian Camenker of the Parents' Rights Coalition
First AIDS Education, Then "Safe Schools," Then Gay Advocacy
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