watch what he does,
forget what he says.
Like send in FBI, ATF and US Park Service Police
to Klamath Falls to help destroy farmers lives!
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In a BBC interview just aired on C-SPAN which I just happened to catch, President Bush said that he and Tony Blair are SOULMATES when it comes to:
1) foreign policy
2) THE BALKANS!!!
3) Trade
YOU'RE BACK!
Duh, CCC
GACK......
I'm no big Bush fan, either.
However, I'm learning to watch what he does, and ignore what he says.
For better or worse...
He'd say the same thing about Clinton.
I heard a similar speech from Clinton when the Impeached Rapist was still staining our White House, except he said he and Blair were CELLmates.
Stirring The Pot I See..............
still laughing.
That's it. They're giving GW happy juice. But who are THEY?
I heard a similar speech from Clinton when the Impeached Rapist was still staining our White House, except he said he and Blair were CELLmates.
LOL. And they ought to be, if for nothing else, for their vicious tag-team mass murder of the Serbs under the cover of the most shamefully dishonest propaganda campaign I've ever witnessed.
That's what makes the Bush quote above so appalling.
I like W, but geez, that's faggier than hell....
Tony Blair is the British Clinton, and this quote unsettles me (as if I were ever settled).
Pat Buchanan and Tony Blair are soulmates now too. I hear Pat is trying to get back into the GOP.
YOU'RE BACK!
YOU'RE STILL HERE! LOL. Hi CCC!
Who did you vote for and who do you wish you could have voted for?
Oh my, that is terrible, yet typical also.
Let the fun and games begin... ;+)
I like W, but geez, that's faggier than hell....
LOL. Considering he was speaking to a British audience, that fagginess probably netted him a few extra popularity points.
I'm like the guest at the party that wouldn't leave. Can somebody tell Jim Robinson we're out of cheezy poofs?
Who did you vote for and who do you wish you could have voted for?
Are you kidding? Arator was one of the five people (other than elderly Jewish residents of Palm Beach, Florida) who voted for Pee-Jay.
Who did you vote for and who do you wish you could have voted for?
Patrick J. Buchanan.
Patrick J. Buchanan or Alan Keyes.
I watched ITN last night and they ran clips of Bush and Blair...Bush looked/sounded like a total jerk. Why doesn't he get some speech lessons? Grrrrrrr. Blair sounded like a jerk, too, but least an articulate jerk.
I'm like the guest at the party that wouldn't leave. Can somebody tell Jim Robinson we're out of cheezy poofs?
This parties only just begun. A new round of cheezy poofs for all!
I just knew I loved Dubya, even though on energy and the environment he has been polically inept lately. Go Dubya go.
Way back before Bush was even an official candidate it was suggested that he was a NWO Globalist among other things. We had a Great War on FR over that issue if you can remember. Even I voted for Bush because the alternative was so unthinkable. But for anyone paying attention there is now no doubt that he is what some people said he was.
And I don't know if he has sold his soul to the devil or if he has just bought into the ideal of some NWO Utopia and just really believes that he can be part of creating one. But there is a great problem with that line of thinking. First off the people in charge are evil dictators without conscience or morals. In there hearts all they really want is total control and power. Secondly man is so full of evil that there cannot be any utopia until God creates it with his own power.
The coming system that Bush has joined into is a chaotic one that will cause suffering greater than has ever been known. I believe God is allowing this to happen in order to prove to man that apart from him we will destroy ourselves just like a bearing without lubrication. If anyone has paid attention then they will see that most everything that Bush has done can defined and explained by his belief in this global utopia. He has hampered the pursuit of justice against Traitors like Clinton and he has even allowed to stand the EO's that Clinton pushed through even in his final days. His actions are to destroy our sovernty. Anything from the consideration of mass unqualified citizenship for illegal aliens...To giving Mexicans the right to ignore the very laws that we would pay a price to break. Yes I am talking about unsafe and un-inspected trucks. He has been talking about down sizing and down funding our military and our offensive capability. And he has made countless references to his support of globalism.
The only thing he has done in a global sense that does not seem to fit this senerio is his rejection of the Kyoto(sp ?) treaty. But I figure there is some trick to that. A breaking down of opposition I would guess. These things always find less resistance on a second or third pass. And by changing the names and terms of such agreements then public resistance can be reduced to a minimum. But in any case most things fit...and the USA in great jeopardy.
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Politics is definitely not your strong suit. :-) What did you expect President Bush to say? Blair and I are oil and water?
I'm learning to watch what he does, and ignore what he says.
Excellent. It amazes me, the people who still don't get it.
Mike Royko once wrote a piece about how Reagan had a knack for sitting back and simply allowing all the idiot journalists to make fools out of themselves. It was effortless. Royko admitted to being one of the hapless fools who underestimated Reagan, and swore he would never make that mistake again. He wrote this piece the day after he wrote a piece lambasting a Reagan press conference where Reagan sounded ill-informed, unsure, and clumsy when it came to dealing with some very serious threats from Libya. The day after that press conference, Reagan launched an air attack that all but obliterated Libya. Royko said his jaw dropped in disbelief as he slowly realized that Reagan had once again made a fool out of all of them. Mohammar Khaddafi was really not heard from much after that.
Bush is very much the same - - watch what he does, forget what he says.
His actions are to destroy our sovernty. Anything from the consideration of mass unqualified citizenship for illegal aliens...To giving Mexicans the right to ignore the very laws that we would pay a price to break. Yes I am talking about unsafe and un-inspected trucks. He has been talking about down sizing and down funding our military and our offensive capability. And he has made countless references to his support of globalism.
I agree with you 1000% which is why I fought tooth and nail for Buchanan the last go round. People have got to wake up and realized that merely defeating a Globalist Democrat is not enough when doing so means only replacing him with a Globalist Republican. ALL globalists, whether they be of the Democrat or Republican variety, must be rejected across the board because they are ALL out to TAKE OUR COUNTRY DOWN peice by bloody piece. In that sense, Spookdaddy (GHW Bush), his crooked croney (Clinton), and his spawn (GW Bush) are identical triplets.
I just knew I loved Dubya
Could you elaborate as to why you are so thrilled by Dubya's has declared himself to be a SOULMATE with the co-butcher of the Balkans Blair?
So if Pat gets back into the GOP that makes him a soulmate of Tony's also? Just because Bush said it does that mean that everyone in the GOP has to think that way? I guess I better start working on getting my mind into a lockstep mentality if that's the case.
Could you elaborate as to why you are so thrilled by Dubya's has declared himself to be a SOULMATE with the co-butcher of the Balkans Blair?
Whoops. Bad edit. That should have read:
"Could you elaborate as to why you are so thrilled that Dubya has declared himself to be a SOULMATE with the co-butcher of the Balkans Blair?
"Bush looked/sounded like a total jerk." Like a smirking chimp?
"...cheesy poofs..."
Is Rex Reed free?
Socialists of the world, unite! Now that W. has given the high sign, all the pro-socialists can come out of the closet. They'll be gushing over Tony-kins in no time at all.
I know that it was a total oversight in your part last night, you are such a distinguished Freeper, but it seems that you failed to answer my question.
When speaking of the tax rebate, you said that accepting the check was paramount to selling the Country for $600.
Yet, when I asked whether you would return the money, you said that you would keep it, and made it sound as if you keeping the $$$ were the actions of a true Patriot.
My question:
I keep the tax refund and you keep the tax refund, why do identical actions make me a traitor, and guilty of selling the Country, and you a Patriot?
I was firmly in favor of the NATO bombings in the Balkans. They were necessary to preclude a diaspora of hundreds of thousands. I hope that helps. I have posted many replies on this on the FR Balkans threads. There are about 3 Freepers or so that agree with me. We are a lonely but redoubtable band. I think the US is a force for good in this world with its force. Maybe I am a naive idealist, but I don't think so.
Hey, CCC, you are right. The A-man is back with more of his catherine wheels of political phantasm. Wasn't it a relief that he has been largely absent from these pages for so long until quite recently?? Next we know he'll be yammering about Buchanan in 2004!
Wouldn't Junior have to redeem his Soul from Old Scratch's "Skull & Bones Pawnshop" before he starts mating it around?
Globalism Sux.
a vote for bush is was a vote for gore
Although you I like the side of Buchannon that hated globalism...He did and said some things that really gave me the creeps. You may not agree with me...but I do not think he was stable. Saying one thing and then contridicting it a few days latter. I noticed in a post above that you included Keyes in your list. That was honestly the only person who ran that I would have been able to support with my heart.
I hear Pat is trying to get back into the GOP.
He didn't leave the GOP, the GOP left him, and recently it has found him again. Maybe he completed his true mission: destroy the Reform Party.
Turnabout is fair play, right Arator?
Pat and Ezola are brothers and sisters in the struggle for truth; they've experienced the same scars of battle. As such, they are soulmates as well as running mates, and exactly the kind of leaders this country so desperately needs.
---Posted on 08/31/2000 16:37:03 PDT by Arator
Like some cheezy poofs with that crow? ;)
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Hey, Louie, save your breath. The A-man is a semi-notorious FR eructator and little more!!
"When speaking of the tax rebate, you said that accepting the check was paramount to selling the Country for $600."
I think Arator said REWARDING BUSH by re-electing him on the basis of a $600 tax rebate was selling out the country on the cheap. There is no shame in taking your own money back, but acting like it is some great gift and rewarding the robber is insane.
So, Geedub and Blair are soulmates. Why am I not surprised? I guess they're gearing up to be another Churchill and FDR. It's hard to understand why our President has to go to Europe and schmooze with a gang of socialist losers, pretending that the job description includes teaming us up with every other country in the world for the royal screwing to top all royal screwings.
The boy acts more like his daddy every day.
When speaking of the tax rebate, you said that accepting the check was paramount to selling the Country for $600.
Luis, that's not what I said. It's not accepting it that co-opts you; it's accepting it AND THEN supporting a globalist traitor because of it despite his globalist policies.
A paltry tax cut cannot buy my support for Bush. It hardly compensates me for his globalist policies which will, ultimately, work to destroy America as we know it.
No, Miss Torie--you're just a neo-con bully. You favor the Woodrow Wilson/Bush Dynasty brand of Interventionism to George Washington's wise counsel of America minding her own business.
Every American Soldier in the Balkans would be better deployed to halt the Third World Invasion across our Southern Border.
Or are you Goldberg/Kristol Neo's too "Progressive" to believe in borders?
Yeah, you're right. I am watching what Bush does, and it isn't pretty. Increasing federal regulations and spending right and left while professing to be a conservative.
Good advice.
i hope Jim Robinson let them all back
Maybe I am a naive idealist, but I don't think so.
Let's bomb the hell out of em for their own good, eh?
Naive, yes. Idealist, no. Ignorant, yes.
"Bush not only attracts political whores, but CHEAP ones at that."Patriot76
"Would you sell your country for a mere $600? It seems that some would."Arator
I get it, it's the whole "I didn't inhale" thing!
When I looked at Blair and Clinton standing together, all I could think of was just a few short years ago, Reagan and Thatcher were giving a press conference. Man, talk about a rapid decline.
In a BBC interview just aired on C-SPAN which I just happened to catch, President Bush said that he and Tony Blair are SOULMATES when it comes to:
1) foreign policy
2) THE BALKANS!!!
Foreign policy? Meaning ALL foreign policy? Which now makes me wonder -- will he be a "soulmate" when it comes to policy regarding Israel?
"People have got to wake up and realized that merely defeating a Globalist Democrat is not enough when doing so means only replacing him with a Globalist Republican. ALL globalists, whether they be of the Democrat or Republican variety, must be rejected across the board because they are ALL out to TAKE OUR COUNTRY DOWN peice by bloody piece. In that sense, Spookdaddy (GHW Bush), his crooked croney (Clinton), and his spawn (GW Bush) are identical triplets."
By the way...I have to agree with you on that.
Btw, I supported Blair in his reelection. He has validated a market economy and the forces of the market, such that only the liberal democrats have ended up being the left force in Britain. Blair is not as important as Thatcher was, but he is more important than most PM's. He has had a plate tectonic forcefulness in the public square, and deserved to be reelected for that. I suspect I will favor his defeat in the next election. Cheers. Sorry to be so non FR PC. Soon I will have no friends left.
Bush is very much the same
watch what he does,
forget what he says.
Like send in FBI, ATF and US Park Service Police
to Klamath Falls to help destroy farmers lives!
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Wouldn't Junior have to redeem his Soul from Old Scratch's "Skull & Bones Pawnshop" before he starts mating it around?
ROTFLOL! Nobody says it like you, Natty.
Perhaps he doesn't have to redeem it because Blair's own Soul resides close by in Old Scratch's sister shop, the Royal Rhodesian Rite-Ayed. ;^)
No, not getting off so easy.
All you guys spend your time beating on us, because Third Party types voted their conscience, and we voted Republican. You demeaned my choice by calling those who supported Bush a whole lot of names.
How can you in good conscience accept what you yourself described as a "bribe" and payment for the sellout of the country from a "globalist traitor" and go into a chest thumping tirade about it being the act of a Patriot?
If I don't like a man, or his actions, I take NOTHING from him, including what I believe to be rightfully mine, specially when I am critical of others doing the same thing.
Taking the $$$ is accepting the bribe, anyway you look at it. The fact that yo take $$$ from a person that you describe a "globalist traitor" makes you an accessory after the fact.
Are you kidding? Arator was one of the five people (other than elderly Jewish residents of Palm Beach, Florida) who voted for Pee-Jay.
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Hey, you mean 6! I voted for Pee-Jay too! :-)
However, I'm learning to watch what he does, and ignore what he says.
Thats my policy too! Dear God we are in deep.
Thanks!!!
Dear God its great to have you back!
Well we have Gore. No doubt about it.
Well said.
bump
fyi
The biggest difference I can see between Tony Blair and "Dubya" Bush is that Tony Blair speaks English.
Yeah, you're right. I am watching what Bush does, and it isn't pretty. Increasing federal regulations and spending right and left while professing to be a conservative.
LOFL !!!
Yeah, no difference between Bush and Gore. Gore would have cut taxes, halted the funding of international pro-abortion organizations, and appointed people just like Gail Norton, John Ashcroft, Ted Olsen, etc., lol.
To: PoisedWoman,arator
"Bush looked/sounded like a total jerk." Like a smirking chimp?
33 Posted on 07/20/2001 21:04:16 PDT by Patriot76
Ahh, he's improved then.
Like send in FBI, ATF and US Park Service Police to Klamath Falls to help destroy farmers lives!
Golly, Bush did that? How did it all turn out?
The farmers, they're all "destroyed"?
As did I, and would again in a minute if asked to chose between chicklets or bon bons again.
Well Luis, friend, I don't get any "rebate" so don't get your panties in a wad.
4) Clinton
The Italian's are killing us! (Kind of like in Genoa today.) Stop them NOW!
Thanks, Judy.
The Bushies used to say: "He's more conservative than Reagan!" and "He'll bring us back to constitutional government!"
Now all they've got is, "He's better than Gore!"
Isn't it amazing how low the Bush sycophant bootlickers have sunk when this is the best they can say about their man? They must be soooo proud!
UGH.
Maybe I am a naive idealist
Nah. In my opinion, you are a left-wing Neo-con. The comments you post on this forum serve to remind everyone that there is still a dangerous "Buckley wing" trying to wrestle control of the party away from Conservatives. This Buckley wing currently holds the GOP hostage and creates a rather hostile environment for Constitutionalists, especially at the higher levels of the party.
The Buckley wing is only one of the three hundred (or so) reasons that I've bolted the party for good. Have fun with your newfound, hijacked party. Create that "big tent".
See you at the camps.
The biggest difference I can see between Tony Blair and "Dubya" Bush is that Tony Blair speaks English.
LOL!
"Golly, Bush did that? How did it all turn out?
The farmers, they're all "destroyed"?"
The situation in the Klamath Basin for over 1400
farming families has become critical and desperate.
Make sure you check the 3rd AND 4th photos.
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"I'm not getting any money back. If I did, it would be rightfully mine and they'd still owe me a helluva lot more that they stole."
Posted by Patriot76
It seems that you're slamming Bush on what he says, you statement indicates that you would keep the rebate.
Is it what you say or what you do that makes you what you are?
Bush makes some diplomatic remarks about foreign heads os State, and you call him a globalist traitor; you say that you would accept the $$$ for the sellout of America, that makes you a traitor.
Let me make it a little clearer, for you and your friend Arator.
If a woman has sex for payment, she's a whore. She can call the $$$ a gift or whatever else she want to call it...but it doesn't change the fact that she's still a whore.
Yeah, I'm counting the money from my tax cut in the year 2010. As for Bush appointments, let's look at Tommy Thompson who wants a more compassionate federal health care bureaucracy by doing away with medical privacy...he wanted to rename Health and Financing Administration(HCFA) MAMA for Medicare and Medicaid Administration, 'cause everyone loves their moma. That's no joke.
Even Clinton had appointments and some policies conservatives liked...Louis Freeh, for one. So don't argue that because Bush the blind hog found a couple of acorns he isn't running left as hard and fast as he can.
Did you happen to catch my post at #43? Good for a grin. ;)
I figured you'd like this post. One thing about you ... you have consistently spoken your mind about Bush, in the face of overwhelming odds here in FR. But then, you like to live dangerously. :)
I, too, am of the "better-than-Gore crowd". But I'm not blind. I know the Bush connection to George Soros.
I think the explanation that Arator provided was more than enough to show the falseness of your interpretation of what he had said.
Stirring The Pot I See..............
Probably more like smoking the pot..............
He didn't leave the GOP
Did you get a discount on Klinton Koolaid from the DNC ??? Pat joined the Reform Party.
Even Clinton had appointments and some policies conservatives liked
Name one.
Jesse, don't get me wrong. I agree that on the "conservative - liberal" scale, 1 to 10, if Gore is a 10, then Bush is a 6. But I am under no delusions. When I saw employees of the federal government testifying before Congress with hoods over their heads to shield their identities from their government employers I knew this great experiment called the United States of America was over. I just want to see as many extra swirls around the toilet bowl as I can before the country disappears forever down the liberal sewer of godless socialist mediocrity and depravity. Bush is just the guy to give me those extra swirls, LOL.
Regards, LH
Yeah, some answer, he's willing to have sex, will take the money, but he won't kiss the john so it's not prostitution.
You don't sem to understand, it is you and the other grovelers who are "servicing" G.W. Bush in exchange for that money.
Not an accurate analogy at all. Someone said "To make people happy, take away everything and then give back little by little".
This Buckley wing currently holds the GOP hostage
Why didn't you reveal this to me, if only to let me know that I am but your mere camp follower?
The Italian's are killing us! (Kind of like in Genoa today.) Stop them NOW!
Arator, good to have you back, I am in near total agreement with you on any topic except:
Electoral politics, particularly presidential;
International trade.
Your analysis and fierce arguments against those who are destroying/have destroyed our culture, both American and Western, has been terribly missed. I was a Keyes supporter, and we sometimes argued on the same sides before the campaign got bitter last year.
BUT, in the case of this quoted statement, I feel that the Italians are killing THEM, more power to the descendants of Rome!! I feel no connection whatsever to the terrorist mobs violently attacking the elected leaders of the western nations, and remain convinced that should they ever come to power, you and I and every member of FR would be among the first that they would like up against the walll and shoot. (I still remember my shock when Castro shot all those people when HE came to power -- I was just starting high school at the time).
I voted for Bush without enthusiasm, then worked to uphold his election WITH enthusiasm (nothing like a good enemy to get the blood up). Since then GWB has been a little better than I expected him to be. I'm with him on free trade, and against what looks to be his possible support of expanded international government (I remain to be convinced that he actually does support, as opposed to gives lip service to this approach).
In any case, WELCOME BACK!! Let the Saturnalia begin!!
Pat joined the Reform Party.
I was attempting a bit of sarcasm. Yes, he joined the RP after declaring that the Republican party had left him behind. If he is back in the GOP, presumably he was found wandering about aimlessly and welcomed back into the fold.
Look these people in here, slamming Bush simply because he made a positive statement about the leader of the Nation he's visiting, our strongest and closest ally, while talking to the British media.
What we think of Tony Blair means sh*t, the Brits elected him, and diplomacy dictates that you refrain from calling your host, the leader of an ally, an a$$hole. But that's what these idiots want!
Bush traveled to Canada and Mexico before going anywhere in the world, the Brigadiers screamed about the meetings, calling Bush a sell out. Because he entertained our next door neighbors.
The POTUS IS SUPPOSED TO TRAVEL AND MEET WITH THE LEADERS OF OTHER NATIONS! And I expect him not to insult our allies to their face while he's there..
These people are calling Bush a traitor based on what he says, I'm calling their bluff and calling attention to their actions, actions that are in conflict with their words.
In other cases, since they pass judgement on Bush based on his words, I'll call them on theirs.
diplomacy dictates that you refrain from calling your host, the leader of an ally, an a$$hole.
Diplomacy does NOT compel one ot issue glowing, lavish praise, either. Especially of policies that are downright dangerous to ones country. Stop obfuscating the issue, Bush lover!
Bush --- the Establishment's Man
Good point, Blair is Clinton's old sidekick.
Judy, I don't give a damn if I am a lightning rod for scorn from some folks. They can discount every single thing I say because I am a "Bush hater" and it matters not a whit. I've tried and tried to see some positive in the guy and now and then there is but mostly I see what my daddy taught me to see. My dad learned while serving in Korea what was going on between the UN, the Soviets and organizations of our own government and he made sure I knew it. My dad even used the phrase, "New World Order" in the sixties when we first talked about it. I've read it all over and over and reached the same conclusion. There is an organized conspiracy to sell us out. I don't care what the Bush sycophants or Rush Limbaugh tell me, they won't discuss the real issue. That, in itself speaks volumes.
STAY, OK.
Why are you supporting globalism by using the internet? Do you also use telephones, televisions, and radios?
"Bush lover"
What does my sexual preference have to do with anything?
"Diplomacy does NOT compel one ot issue glowing, lavish praise, either."
What "glowing, lavish praise" did Bush "issue"? Are you privy to what goes on behind closed doors? Where did you get your experience in International Diplomacy?
"Especially of policies that are downright dangerous to ones country."
What? Tony Blair's ploicies are dangerous to the US? If we establish policies that the Brits feel are not right for them, would you be in support of Blair coming over here and demanding that the policies be stricken?
Do we drop the missile defense initiative because European countries don't like it?
Are we the only country allowed to tell other countries what policies to implement?
"Stop obfuscating the issue, Bush lover!"
OK, I'll stop "obfuscating" the issue and come clean. Pat Buchanan is a know-nothing, do-nothing xenophobe. He's never been elected to jack, and his support is below 1% of the population. Pat is irrelevant.
"HalfIrish"?
Is the other half sober?
My dad learned while serving in Korea what was going on between the UN, the Soviets and organizations of our own government and he made sure I knew it. My dad even used the phrase, "New World Order" in the sixties when we first talked about it. I've read it all over and over and reached the same conclusion. There is an organized conspiracy to sell us out. I don't care what the Bush sycophants or Rush Limbaugh tell me, they won't discuss the real issue. That, in itself speaks volumes.
Wow, HalfIrish, your dad was a man way ahead of his time. To perceive such things right after the rosy patriotic glow of "victory" in WWII is remarkable. Tell us more. What specifically did he experience in Korea which made the scales fall from his eyes?
Arator...Surprise, surprise!! Look who's back. How did this happen?
"I, too, am of the "better-than-Gore crowd". But I'm not blind. I know the Bush connection to George Soros."
Interesting! What's that connection to Soros? I could get really mad over this, and I mean it.
Look these people in here, slamming Bush simply because he made a positive statement about the leader of the Nation he's visiting, our strongest and closest ally, while talking to the British media.
What we think of Tony Blair means sh*t, the Brits elected him, and diplomacy dictates that you refrain from calling your host, the leader of an ally, an a$$hole. But that's what these idiots want!
I agree with Arator on the basis that Bush didn't have to be so specific if he was just being polite. Besides, he expressed his agreement with the NATO massacre when he was campaigning.
Bush traveled to Canada and Mexico before going anywhere in the world, the Brigadiers screamed about the meetings, calling Bush a sell out. Because he entertained our next door neighbors.
I don't know about the Canadian meeting, but the meeting with Fox obviously was not just to be polite. He is allowing Mexico, Fox, to tell us how to conduct immigration inside our own borders. This is insulting and ignominious. I'd like to hear a little saber rattling about the nerve of this Fox guy telling us to take that "illegal" label off illegal immigrants.
These people are calling Bush a traitor based on what he says, ... In other cases, since they pass judgement on Bush based on his words, ...
Sorry, but it's not just his words that offend people like Arator.
"I agree with Arator on the basis that Bush didn't have to be so specific if he was just being polite."
Should ALL US Presidents check with every citizen before making off the cuff remarks to the media? Or just Arator?
"Besides, he expressed his agreement with the NATO massacre when he was campaigning."
I don't agree with everything he does. Then again, Arator doesn't agree with ANYTHING he does. Of the two, I'd say that I am being more honest than Arator by far.
"He is allowing Mexico, Fox, to tell us how to conduct immigration inside our own borders."
Has Bush done anything, other tha deal with the immigrants aleady here, to allow more aliens in? Vicente Fox can say whatever he wantsa to say about Mexican immigrants, it means nothing.
"Sorry, but it's not just his words that offend people like Arator."
That's what Arator is complaining about here!
My dad learned while serving in Korea what was going on between the UN, the Soviets and organizations of our own government and he made sure I knew it. My dad even used the phrase, "New World Order" in the sixties when we first talked about it. I've read it all over and over and reached the same conclusion. There is an organized conspiracy to sell us out. I don't care what the Bush sycophants or Rush Limbaugh tell me, they won't discuss the real issue. That, in itself speaks volumes.
It always amazes me when I read a post like this. I can't believe kids were being taught this stuff and I didn't know anything at that time.
I'm kinda glad I didn't know about this conspiracy until I was way too old to waste my life worrying about it, but of course that's balderdash because it's going to have to be a new generation of younger people who are aware if it's ever turned around. And of course again, that won't ever happen.
You are so right about Rush and his unwillingness to really discuss the issue. He just ridicules and won't allow the discussion. That's the way it is in every news outlet that gets any attention. And like you say, that says it all.
Should ALL US Presidents check with every citizen before making off the cuff remarks to the media? Or just Arator?
Hey, wait a minute! We can complain about our presidents and what they say and do. They should be held accountable to us. We are the ones they are supposed to be working for. Everyone should be more demanding of our presidents that they uphold Constitutional values and not go off spouting nonsensical statements when they go abroad. Did you ever complain about Clinton's statements when, for instance, he went to China?
I don't agree with everything he does. Then again, Arator doesn't agree with ANYTHING he does. Of the two, I'd say that I am being more honest than Arator by far.
Let's see, so far I have a long list of things I don't agree with, but off hand I'd say...
He stiffed Klamath Falls.
He has that horrible faith based initiative policy that I hate.
He is allowing Mexico, Fox, to tell us how to conduct immigration inside our own borders.
He is encouraging illegal immigration.
He has increased spending on the Department of Anything-But-Education.
He left Clinton's EOs intact.
He didn't get a good and real investigation of the withheld OKC bombing information while he had the chance.
And he is stepping up the drug war. That's really bad.
"He stiffed Klamath Falls."
From a CNSNews.com article dated May 30.
Only certain
people can apply to invoke the God Squad - by law, only "a federal agency, the
governor of the state in which an agency action will occur, if any, or a permit
or license applicant may apply."
In this case, any of three "federal
agencies" could apply, according to Interior Department spokesperson Stephanie
Hanna.
The Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Marine Fisheries
Service added the fish to the endangered species list and then took steps to
protect habitat for the fish, after being forced to do so as a result of
"citizen" lawsuits filed by professional environmental activists.
It is
not likely, Hanna said, that either of those agencies would want to invoke the
God Squad.
The third federal agency involved is the U.S. Bureau of
Reclamation, which is part of Norton's Interior Department.
The bureau
shut off the irrigation water only after it was ordered to do so by a federal
judge, in response to yet another lawsuit filed by environmental activists.
And although Hanna would not say whether or not the bureau is
contemplating invocation of the God Squad, she did point out that "this
administration worked hard to avoid" having to shut off the irrigation water.
Since the Bureau's action occurred in Oregon, Gov. John A. Kitzhaber
could apply for God Squad action.
But a spokesman for the governor said
Kitzhaber "has not supported invocation of the God Squad to this point, mainly
out of respect for the legal process that is still ongoing." He said the
governor is waiting for court-ordered mediation to play out.
Looks like the governor is stiffing the citizens. If you truly want a Republic, you need to quit expecting the Feds to hand it to you, and start expecting the States to behave like one.
"He has that horrible faith based initiative policy that I hate."
The only persdon that agrees with everything that you do and think is you, isn't it?
"He is allowing Mexico, Fox, to tell us how to conduct immigration inside our own borders."
Vicente Fox has been talking a lot, I will wait for visible signs of Bush following his orders before actually thinking that what the President of Mexico tells the media, dictates US policy. You should do the same.
"He is encouraging illegal mmigration."
Says you.
"He has increased spending on the Department of Anything-But-Education."
Isn't it the Congress that approves that budget? If it gets the desired results, will you still complain about the increased spending?
"He left Clinton's EOs intact."
So far. As I said, I don't agree with everything he does.
"He didn't get a good and real investigation of the withheld OKC bombing information while he had the chance."
I don't know that it isn't going on, or that it won't. I do know that maybe we expect the Feds to conduct the business of running the ation on 24/7 cable news, we forget that some stuff takes time.
"And he is stepping up the drug war. That's really bad."
Yes, that would be bad.
We have an administration that's been in place about six months, you can't expect decades of an expanding Federal government to be wiped out in six months, or to do something more than slowing it down in that time. But good things have happened, and we have three years before we need to grade Bush's performance.
Don't get too excited, ARATOR and the Brigades are back for "entertainment value" only. They will self-destruct shortly, that is a common trait they all share with PJB.
Dateline, Texasforever's hometown, sometime in the not so distant future...
"The City Council voted today to make Spanish the official language for all official city business. In a related measure, they also voted to rename our city "Ciudad de Santa Anna" in honor of the heroic General who soundly defeated that infamous and hated gang of Gringo brigands at the Battle of the Alamo."
Ever see that SNL skit where Reagan was a hard-core, energetic, extremely intelligent, fast-paced strategist while meeting with his advisors? He was moving and thinking fast, like a great coach. Then he had to do a quick gig for the cameras and suddenly shifted to his disarming, folksy, simple self that we all knew and loved. As soon as the camera was off, he said something about hating that part of the job and shifted back to the fast-paced strategist, controlling every aspect of the meeting, while the Cabinet or advisors were all falling asleep from exhaustion. They showed him still cranking into the early morning or something like that. It was hilarious. The reality is that these guys may be more like Matlock. Let the libs keep calling Bush dim just like they did Reagan. Meanwhile, he can continue to sneak up on their unsuspecting arrogant butts and stick it to 'em over and over again.
I just reformatted my computer. I have to reload some stuff. I'll do it tomorrow and upload some pages I've done to my website for you to look at.
I'm sure you already know that the father of George Soros was a Jewish collaborator during the Holocaust.
Another interesting little tidbit ... did you know that Madelyn Albright's father mentored Condi Rice? And that he had connections to Nazi Germany?
Yeah, Mr. Bond ... be prepared to get mad. REAL mad.
"The City Council voted today to make Spanish the official language for all official city business. In a related measure, they also voted to rename our city "Ciudad de Santa Anna" in honor of the heroic General who soundly defeated that infamous and hated gang of Gringo brigands at the Battle of the Alamo."
Cute but pure hyperbole. I have lived in Texas my entire adult life. The "Hispanic" takeover is vastly exaggerated but I suspect you already know that. You may want to do a little research on Texas history before you completely make an ass of yourself.
BTW, I am sure your entire knowledge of the Alamo comes from the movie with John Wayne. You may want to do a little research on him as well and his love for Mexico.
Yes! I do remember that SNL skit!
Great analogy and I agree that Bush is "dumb like a fox".
The liberal news media is so arrogant and full of themselves that they will never catch on.
But at least Bush is a gentleman and not some pervert, as he leads us down the garden path. Few people know the involvement of his daddy and his grandfather in the grand scheme of things - the connections to George Soros and to Nazi Germany. They're happier that way. I wish I didn't know.
"He left Clinton's EOs intact."
Nope, he cannot just "negate a previous Presidents EO's. That is strictly the province of the Congress. He can however; tie the previous EO up in "cost/benefit committes" and make the EO completly unenforcable and that is EXACTLY what he has done. Seriously, you need to do a little basic research on what the "Executive Branch" is allowed to do under the Constitution. For a little "light" reading try Here
Well... for a while at least!
Damn you far west folks scare easily. No wonder you elect Liberals. LMAO
Few people know the involvement of his daddy and his grandfather in the grand scheme of things - the connections to George Soros and to Nazi Germany
I have seen this link to Soros before. I know that Soros is a member of the CFR and that he is the "sugar daddy" of drug legalization. However; where is the link to GWB?
where is the link to GWB?
I prayed and prayed that GWB would turn out to be different than his daddy. That the image portrayed by his cheerleaders on FR was for real. That he really was strongly pro-life, that he really was more conservative than Reagan. But all the prayers were for naught. GWB is his daddy's handpuppet. That's the link, genius!
I will not lower myself to issue forth ethnic-based stereotypical comments based on the habits of your people, Mr. Gonzalez. The fact that you lowered yourself to that level speaks volumes.
I will reiterate: GWB was not compelled by diplomacy to embrace as shared goals the disastrous Balkans policy and the other policies of Blair that he extolled as "the right thing." And you know it. Obfuscation and attacks based on ethnic stereotypes are your stock in trade. Sad, sad, sad.
A lot of servicemen returned from Korea with their eyes wide open, Arator. That's all I wish to say about it.
Wait a minute, you start the name-calling crap on your first post to me, "Bush lover", and you complain when I shoot back?
Now you try to take the high road?
What a hypocrite.
You are a Bush-lover by your own admission.
I am not an Irish drunk.
Now shut up before you put your foot any deeper in your mouth.
Can you tell me what would Bush accomplish by being publicly critical of Blair's past actions? What Bush's opinion is of an incident that happened before he was President is irrelevant, and criticizing Blair over it would just create tensions between the two countries, on the other hand, the appereance of solidarity between the two is a good thing for both countries.
The actions of our government are not always what you see in the news, that's fodder for the unwashed masses.
You and I don't know 80% of what goes on in DC. Relax and watch rather than listen.
"You are a Bush-lover by your own admission."
Show me where I've said that I "love" Bush.
"Now shut up before you put your foot any deeper in your mouth."
LOLOLOLOL!!!!
I know that you can get away with talking to your wife like that, but don't you dare confuse me with her.
"Dateline, Texasforever's hometown, sometime in the not so distant future..."
About your fortune telling abilities.
Weren't you the guy predicting a Buchanan win?
I just spent the better part of an hour trying to verify your post, I can't find a mention anywhere of Bush referering to himself and Blair as "soulmates", can you post a link to verify the accuracy of your claim?
I'll tell you what I did find, I found news articles about Blair and Bush reaching common ground on the US Missile Defense System initiative, something that the rest of Europe is violently opposed to.
Blair, in spite of being in disagreement with Bush on the Kyoto Treaty, has publicly gone o bat in support of Bush's initiative.
I don't know what went on behind closed doors, but England is on our side about missile defense, if it took Bush to make some meaningless remark about some unchangeable event in the past, so be it, who cares.
We despise the UN, since the Bush administration took over, the UN despises us, the European Union is at odds with us over Bush's policies, greenpeace and every socialist in the world are screaming about the Bush administration, so are the Democrats and the Brigadiers.
I say that if Bush is drawinhg this much flak, it must mean that he is right over the target.
Calling a few like-minded people for their opinion.
This Buckley wing currently holds the GOP hostage."
Right. And we brilliantly sent Jeffords out to establish a beachhead among the Independents. We're playin' hardball.
Don't let Harry get under your skin,Torie. He's got a heart of gold, but does enjoy the Birch beer.
"I'm sure you already know that the father of George Soros was a Jewish collaborator during the Holocaust. "Another interesting little tidbit ... did you know that Madelyn Albright's father mentored Condi Rice? And that he had connections to Nazi Germany?" No, Judy, I had no idea about any of this. So is the Skull and Bones story really true? Gosh!
Thanks, I'll look at the link, but Bush could have stopped the EOs if he had done it immediately before they were published. I got that much information somewhere at the time. Probably right here!
It's Just Typical Bush Bashing......, I saw that Press Conference with Blair and I thought Bush Kicked A$$. He was on Fire, the best I have seen him yet.
I'll name two. William Cohen, Sec Defense Nancy Kassabaum Baker, FAA
"But at least Bush is a gentleman and not some pervert..."
So what does this have to do with anything? Hitler liked kids, was quite the gentleman, and preached vegetarianism, no smoking, and a healthy lifestyle.
We have an administration that's been in place about six months, you can't expect decades of an expanding Federal government to be wiped out in six months, or to do something more than slowing it down in that time.
Slow it down, hell! Bush is going forward and expanding the federal government as fast as he can. Kyoto was dead in the water before he got elected, so he is taking credit for nothing. Bush is not decreasing the role of the federal govenrment in anything, and in fact is increasing it in medical care, education, world bank, etc. etc.
LOL at the Bushleaguers defense of Clinton II.
Slow it down, hell! Bush is going forward and expanding the federal government as fast as he can.
What was last years budget increase? What is this years budget increase? What is the rate of inflation?
You might want to see a doctor for that bile condition. Not necessarily an MD..
No one on this thread has suggested that Bush dress down Blair on his home turf. Only you, in your imagination have suggested that. What would be refreshing is to see Bush tone down the cheerleading. Do you comprehend yet?
I'm sure you already know that the father of George Soros was a Jewish collaborator during the Holocaust.
Interesting, especially since Dubya's Grandpappy Prescott was an American collaborator with the Nazis during the Holocaust.
About 8% last year overall. This year, Bush said 4% increase in discretionary spending, but according to Roll Call,that is all but dead. Real increase will be at least 6% when all is said and done. And remember, the increase is predicated on the previous year's budget, so in real dollars, the increase will be about the same as Clinton's.
Bush crowed about keeping increase in line with increase in wages, but neglected to figure in taxes...a 4% increase in wages in dollars to worker is about 2.7% when you figure in taxes paid...so Bush is increasing spending about 40% higher than workers real take home income at best, and nearly doubling spending in relation to real take home pay if you look at the real numbers.
Bushleaguer? Did YOUR candidate get more than 1% of the vote?
I comprehend that you have about as much a clue and experience about international politics, diplomacy and government as the candidate you supported these last elections; to be exact, zero. Which is close to the percentage of votes they received.
I can't find a mention anywhere of Bush referering to himself and Blair as "soulmates", can you post a link to verify the accuracy of your claim?
Here's the link to a transcript of the BBC interview with Bush, Luis. Bush did describe them as "soulmates", obviously using the term because the reporter had used it in his question.
Also, here's the video of the BBC Interview which puts the exchange in a proper context.
Much ado about not much. Probably not a great move by Bush, but hardly a matter to cause such mashing and gnawing of teeth. This is more overly hostile nitpicking from the Brigadiers and the like. And one particular Brigadier should have thought twice before taking a shot at Bush for referring to someone as a soulmate.See Post #43 to see what I mean
Still avoiding the question, I see. I am finished with you, genius. Good bye.
Nope. So what does that have to do with the price of tomatoes in Sicily?
Interesting, especially since Dubya's Grandpappy Prescott was an American collaborator with the Nazis during the Holocaust."
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You know that, and I know that. But I guarantee you most FReepers don't.
Hey, you two. Cut it out. I don't remember what this is all about (didn't go back and re-read), but apparently there is some misunderstanding. Has to be. Two people I like can't get into fights. :)
Jesse ... as a female, I get so sick and tired of perverts throwing their stuff in my face. They are ALL crooked, but at least Bush has some decorum. It might not mean anything to some people, but it does to me. The bad things politicians do in their professional capacity is bad enough. They don't need to be going around bonging interns, ESPECIALLY in the oval office!
Your questions ... when I get that webpage put together, you can read for yourself and come to your own conclusions.
{Sorry for all the replies to everybody, but I just got back online.}
I'll flag you when I get my webpage online that has all the links, including info on Bush association in Soros companies.
Judy, what prescott Bush did was to have business dealings with Germany prior to the war, once the US went to war with Germany, the company that Prescott Bush managed was ordered to stop their relations with Germany.
Imagine that in ten years we go to war with France, would all the American companies doing business with France now, and their management be considered traitors?
Thanks for confirming what I saw. Here's the exact exchange:
Stephen Sackur:
"You're not political soul mates, are you?"President Bush:
"Well, I - we don't spend a lot of time on domestic politics, but we are:1) soul mates when it comes to how to keep the peace,
2) soul mates when it comes to issues like the Balkans,
3) soul mates when it comes to trade.
But there's something larger than politics and political parties, and that is alliances and friendships. And both of us are committed to that."
I saw your post, it was funny.
Arator will not answer me, he sends his minions to fight for him. I guess the other half is a shill.
I'll flag you when I get my webpage online that has all the links, including info on Bush association in Soros companies.
Flag me too!
Meaning that when it comes to bushleague, I must defer to you and your candidates' expertise on being one.
It must be that half that makes you too thick to see that I've answered every one of your questions, you however, have yet to back up your claim that I am a self-avowed Bush "lover".
LOL Sure will. I'll do it if I can ever get off FRee Republic. haaa haaa
Would you apply that same theory to IG Fabian, et al? I don't know. To tell you the truth, I haven't really analyzed the grandpa's connection with the Nazis. I know I've read what you just said about how he quit doing it. What upsets me so much is the grandson's connection to a Soros company. However, I don't know if he is still directly aligned with them. But he WAS! And like tigers don't change their stripes, NWO people don't change their friends or connections, usually.
It's been a while since I looked at the links I accumulated during my research on Marc Rich (when I stumbled upon and first learned of George Soros). But maybe you'd like to look at them, too, when I get them done?
About 8% last year overall. This year, Bush said 4% increase in discretionary spending, but according to Roll Call,that is all but dead. Real increase will be at least 6% when all is said and done. And remember, the increase is predicated on the previous year's budget, so in real dollars, the increase will be about the same as Clinton's.
You are very vague and don't explain why the budget was not a 4% increase here. If the rate of increase was greater than 4% and you have information on this, then both you and I and everyone else needs to know clearly what this information is.
Bush crowed about keeping increase in line with increase in wages, but neglected to figure in taxes...a 4% increase in wages in dollars to worker is about 2.7% when you figure in taxes paid...so Bush is increasing spending about 40% higher than workers real take home income at best, and nearly doubling spending in relation to real take home pay if you look at the real numbers.
These are not real number -- they are false numbers. A 4% increase in wages means that a persons taxable income went up 4% -- and more importantly -- the persons take-home pay also went up 4%. The take home pay of 4% is equal to the fed. buget increase of 4%.
Calling a few like-minded people for their opinion.
Luis,
Thanks for the flag.
Your post #31 was dead on. Succinct and well-stated, and I agree with you completely.
Isn't it weird how some threads become magnets for the third-party malcontents? Most of them are right on in most of their views, but I think many are just impatient to the point of being counterproductive. The godless Democrats took 60 years to bring this once-proud nation to it's knees, sinking it in a toilet of socialist mediocrity and depravity. At this point I think we have to be content to just put the brakes on. I think Bush is doing what he can to do that. Reversing the damage is probably impossible.
And we brilliantly sent Jeffords out to establish a beachhead among the Independents.
Where should we send our mole Chafee?
It's not taking long for everyone to see dubya's true colors. But, you will still find plenty of excuses for dubya, here at FR. Is it not sweet?, that dubya’s considers that fabian socialist, “butcher of the Balkans” Blair his soul mate regarding NATO and foreign policy. Can you just see it now, Bush and Powell formulate a Rambouillet Accord for the Macedonians, even with a wonderful Appendix B attached to it. It just might be, only a matter of time, now that Bush has found his NATO soul mate.
You are very vague and don't explain why the budget was not a 4% increase here. If the rate of increase was greater than 4% and you have information on this, then both you and I and everyone else needs to know clearly what this information is.
From Representative Ron Paul's website. I don't have access to Nexus/Lexus but I will try to fing the article on projected spending increasing more than 4% this year.
"Americans need to understand the stark reality behind the often boring and confusing budget rhetoric: Congress will spend nearly $2 trillion in 2002. This amount represents almost 11% more than Congress will spend in 2001. This massive spending funds an unbelievable number of federal departments, agencies, programs, and personnel.
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2001/tst040201.htm
A 4% increase in wages means that a persons taxable income went up 4% -- and more importantly -- the persons take-home pay also went up 4%. The take home pay of 4% is equal to the fed. buget increase of 4%.
If you make $100 and receive a 4% increase, then you make $104. Depending on your tax bracket, you will pay anywhere from 0 to 38% tax federal, 1.5% Medicare and 7% FICA (figured for sake of convenience). Add state and local taxes. Conservatively, your taxes will eat up at least 1 of those dollars. Your takehome pay is $103 dollars(probably less) so you are not getting a 4% increase in takehome pay. But guess what...Total federal spending this year is projected at 11% increase, so even if we take your numbers at face value, Bush and GOP still have spending well ahead of last years.
How can you in good conscience accept what you yourself described as a "bribe" and payment for the sellout of the country from a "globalist traitor" and go into a chest thumping tirade about it being the act of a Patriot?
I didn't accept it, the buttheads spent it befor it got here.
thumb to nose fingers extended waving side to side.
W, come on home. The jet lag is starting to show.
When did bushtheyounger put the brakes on? All of billyjeffs E.O.s stand with a bit of extra crap thrown in. If those are brakes I'm glad I let that train leave the station without being on it.
Sorry, Judy.. he's being a chain-yanker and deserves this.
What the Hell.. I'll ask the question again as clearly as possible for the third time, just to see you avoid it again.. NO ONE ADVOCATED THAT BUSH DRESS DOWN BLAIR. THEY JUST ARE PERPLEXED AND ANGRY THAT BUSH WAS SO EMBARASSINGLY FAWNING. WHY ARE YOU PRETENDING THAT DISLIKING BUSH'S FAWNING BEHAVIOR AND SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IT IS THE SAME THING AS ADVOCATING A DRESSING DOWN OF BLAIR BY BUSH? NOONE WOULD BE ANGRY AT BUSH IF HE GAVE BLAIR A GENERIC, POLITE, DIPLOMATIC PAT ON THE BUTT. AGAIN, WHY ARE YOU PRETENDING YOU DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE?
I can't find a mention anywhere of Bush referering to himself and Blair as "soulmates"
Didn't look very hard, did you Ace? Hahahahahaha
They don't need to be going around bonging interns...
So that's how the pizza ties in.
Well, hell! Neither did your boy Arator, and he posted the quote!
And you are as thick-headed as you are dull......I HAVE REPEATED MYSELF FOR THE LAST TIME TO YOU, THE ANSWER IS THAT ONLY YOU AND THE REST OF THE ONE PERCENTERS CALL A SIMPLE OFF-THE-CUFF REMARK AT A PRESS CONFERENCE "FAWNING".
But then again, why don't you try a little honesty and admiot that there is NOTHING that Bush can do that you will aprove of.
We are done, vote with your one-percenters for that lunatic, don't need you anyway.
LOL. Anger management class, probably.
I am sorry that it took so long to get back with you. I just moved, and it takes a long time to unpack junk!
I just don't have time right now to update these pages. I noticed some of the pictures don't work any more. I didn't check the links, nor did I add stuff I've got saved for the different pages. So, here it is for now, "as is" - but there's still a lot of info and pics, disjointed as it is. If you're not on a fast connection, some of these pages might take a bit to load though.
Thanks, JudyB1938! I used to post on the NPR board called The Connection, at theconnection.org. There is a guy there who is Catholic and just very disturbed that people don't listen to the wise words of the Pope.
He recommends the words of Jeffrey Sachs and George Soros as well, as if they were some kind of manna from heaven. I don't understand him. He is so upset that the free marketers are ruling the roost and making all that undeserved money while the poor in the industrial nations don't get a fair shake, and the third world countries are starving. He is so upset with us, the extravagant consumers who make it all possible. He is adamant about rampant consumerism, and the tired old cliches of the Freidman and Hayak variety.
What I can't understand for the life of me is why he idolizes the richest and most obvious consumers of all. And I find that is a common oversight on the left. When the younger Rockefellers come out in favor of the inheritance tax, these leftists see this as a benevolent gesture coming from conscientious and good hearted men.
When you look at a Forbes list of the richest men in the country, you find Bill Gates at the top of the list, as if this newcomer had surpassed Rockefeller and Soros, et al.
It's as if the wealthiest in the country don't exist, they are the elephant in the living room that is off limits, not to be mentioned.
Yes, it's not surprising, but it is very disturbing to see GWB has an interest in a Soros corporation.
I copied the part of the Soros article that really says it all:
Whether the theory is valid or not, it has turned out to be very helpful to me in the financial markets. When I had made more money than I needed, I decided to set up a foundation. I reflected on what it was I really cared about. Having lived through both Nazi persecution and Communist oppression, I came to the conclusion that what was paramount for me was an open society. So I called the foundation the Open Society Fund, and I defined its objectives as opening up closed societies, making open societies more viable, and promoting a critical mode of thinking. That was in 1979.
My first major undertaking was in South Africa, but it was not successful. The apartheid system was so pervasive that whatever I tried to do made me part of the system rather than helping to change it. Then I turned my attention to Central Europe. Here I was much more successful. I started supporting the Charter 77 movement in Czechoslovakia in 1980 and Solidarity in Poland in 1981. I established separate foundations in my native country, Hungary, in 1984, in China in 1986, in the Soviet Union in 1987, and in Poland in 1988. My engagement accelerated with the collapse of the Soviet system. By now I have established a network of foundations that extends across more than twenty-five countries (not including China, where we shut down in 1989).
He is making oodles and gobs of money through his tax-exempt foundations. This is the other elephant in the living room. These most wealthy and most overlooked men are sheltering their taxes in foundations that support socialist policies for the benefit of themselves, to make them ever richer. I'm assuming that in foreign countries they are receiving the same benefit of tax-exemption.
We don't pay near enough attention to the tax-exempt foundations, like the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, or the Rockefeller Foundation. And at least ever since the death of Henry Ford, the Ford Foundation. There probably are a thousand of them.
Sometimes I'm not too swift. I knew without a doubt that Gates isn't really the richest man in the world, but I couldn't see how the others were keeping themselves off the very top of the list. Your comment about their tax-free foundations and corporate entities rang the bell for me. Thank you!
When I first started those web pages, it was to find out stuff about Marc Rich. I'd never heard of George Soros. And what I read just made things fall into place. He is one scary man!
I would like to point out that I got my information from legitimate sources - not some weirdo conspiracy nuts/sites. But you know that, because you followed the links on my pages and read them for yourself. Takes a long time, and most people wont/can't do it.
One of the things that absolutely amazed me was that most of these people involved in advancing the cause of the NWO all tie right back to the Holocaust. Not only that, but those Jews were collaboraters with the Nazis, too, and hid the fact that they were Jewish (case in point: Madelyn Albright claims she didn't know she was Jewish).
If we discount their lackies/paid help (politicians/corporate execs/etc), then all of them are Jewish - either directly or indirectly as children of the main principles (i.e., George Soros whose father was a high up in the Nazi Regime).
That doesn't make it a "Jewish Conspiracy" - although it certainly can be twisted into that concept - but it does mean there's a group of families and friends who work to perpetuate their own interests and their own fortunes.
(AG - thought you'd like to read jamesbond's most interesting remarks just above)
Thanks for the heads up!
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