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Eastchester Teacher Now a She

News/Current Events Breaking News News Keywords: TRANSSEXUAL; TEACHER
Source: New York Daily News
Published: July 24, 2001 Author: Associated Press
Posted on 07/24/2001 11:22:43 PDT by Marc-Yves Tumin

Eastchester Teacher Now a She
School Officials Hope Transsexual's Return Goes Smoothly

When last seen by students at Eastchester High School, art teacher Randey Gordon was a man. When they return to class in September, that will no longer be the case.

"Mr. Gordon isn't Mr. Gordon anymore," said the 52-year-old teacher, who underwent a sex-change operation last month. "But it's still me. The parents and the kids who knew me as a man, they'll accept me. The person hasn't changed. I'm the same crazy, humorous person I was before."

Many transsexuals who have the operation — there are an estimated 1,000 annually in the United States — decide to start a new life with a new identity. But Gordon, who has taught in the Westchester County district for 10 years, is one of a small number across the country who are returning to the classroom after a sexchange.

"I love my job," Gordon said in an interview from Santa Fe, N.M., where she is recovering. "I shouldn't have to give that up. The fact is that diversity is something the world needs to understand and respect, and I'm doing this for others."

A similar case is unfolding at Glenbrook North High School in Northbrook, Ill., where school officials have notified parents that a female science teacher will return to classes this fall as a man. In Lake Forest, Ill., an English teacher became a woman in the summer of 1998, and "the transition was very smooth," said Assistant Principal Jay Hoffmann.

It doesn't always work that way. Dana Rivers, a teacher in Sacramento, Calif., was fired in 1999 after announcing her sex-change operation. The school board said parents complained that Rivers had talked to students about the decision. Rivers denied that and sued; she received a $150,000 settlement and resigned.

Gordon predicts her sex change "will be old news a week after school starts" on Sept. 4 at the 600-student high school.

Not yet, though. The school district invited students and parents to what turned out to be a lively meeting that covered everything from privacy rights to bathroom use.

"There was a lot of confusion, and people had questions," Superintendent Bob Siebert said. "Most people were supportive. We told them everything we could about what had happened, and we assured them that Randey was going to have to be responsible, like any other teacher, about what she says to the students. We also told them Randey had rights that have to be protected."

Ellie Giotas, who has a daughter in the high school, has doubts.

"They're trying to justify something in the name of freedom, in the name of the law," Giotas said. "I would tell this guy, 'Why don't you get...out and start your new life somewhere else? Why do you have to impose this on us, on our children?'"

Gordon, who was born in the Bronx, describes her life as "like being in solitary confinement for 40-some years."

"I didn't just wake up one day and say, 'Okay, where's the application to become a woman?'" she said. "All my life I knew there was something wrong."

(AP) Original Publication Date: 7/24/01


1 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:22:43 PDT by Marc-Yves Tumin
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

More reasons for Ted Kennedy to pump in billions in the school systems (sarcasm off)

2 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:27:41 PDT by KantianBurke
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

"All my life I knew there was something wrong."

3 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:28:40 PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

The fact is that diversity is something the world needs to understand and respect, and I'm doing this for others."

And that's what is important isn't it really. Diversity. Inclusion of all views. Who cares about right and wrong.< /sarcasm>

4 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:29:19 PDT by billbears
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To: billbears

"I'm doing this [sex change] for others." sounds like a real good freakin reason as well.

5 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:34:40 PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

One thing I've never understood about surgical sex changes is that wouldn't that mean you'll never have the capacity to have sexual pleasure again?

They're attention seekers, nothing more.

6 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:37:35 PDT by Garin Hunt
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

The fact is that diversity is something the world needs to understand and respect, and I'm doing this for others."

"For others". Right.

Just one more reason to treat the government schools for the joke they have become. Why should any impressionable children be taught by such a f*cked up individual? There is something terribly wrong with this guy/girl.

7 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:44:05 PDT by Gritty
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To: AP

Please get your terminology right. It (the subject of the article) is not a woman - or a man. It can call itself whatever it likes, but doing so will not change the fact that it is a neuter, not a female.

8 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:45:07 PDT by jimt
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

The guy is a freak. His mind is gone. Yet, his union and liberals force the rest of us to say, think, and act otherwise. Why? Not only is he a freak, but he has forced this entire school, kids and all, to actively participate in his rehabilitative therapy. They are forced to help him halucinate that he really was a female trapped inside a man's body. What garbage! What does this do to impressionable kids? F**k 'em! They must help support this guy's delisions, they have no choice. He has a choice, but they don't!

9 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:45:12 PDT by Tacis
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

when i hear stories like this i have to tell a couple tales i know of.

in the 60's i knew a guy named harvey and his sister fran. we always partied together and had some good times. well, harv went to viet-nam and served in the marines. he came back in '68 and proceeded to have a sex change operation. i never saw him/her after that but heard he/she was quite attractive. i was shocked (we all were) to say the least.

another guy i used to work construction with always went to the bar to drink and pick up the loosey/gooseys. one day at work he told us of one of his conquests the weekend before. now he was a puerto rican and had a fairly heavy accent, so listening to him describe what happened was even funnier.

he said he picked up a 'beautiful woman' and took her to the 'no-tell motel'. he said he began to kiss her and grab here and there and said, 'man, when i put my hand 'down there'....she had a D**K'!!! talk about ROTFLOAO!!! he was a funny guy. :)

10 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:48:32 PDT by rockfish59
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

A she will never be a he, and a he will never be a she. The true definition includes the possibility at least of reproduction of that sex of that species.

11 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:50:31 PDT by xzins
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Dood, sex changes. I don't get it. Gives me the shudders.

Supposedly they can have sexual pleasure, but they can never orgasm. How frustrating! I read an article about one who regrets it, because of that. Like a nightmare you can never wake up from.

12 Posted on 07/24/2001 11:53:44 PDT by extremefree
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"I'm doing this for others"

My frickin hero......

13 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:03:36 PDT by R.W. Wacko
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

..Plucked her eyebrows on the way,
shaved her legs and then he was a she, and said
'hey babe, take a walk on the wild side'..

14 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:11:42 PDT by SGCOS
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

she said. "All my life I knew there was something wrong."

Yea, there was something wrong, but it just got worse.

15 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:12:23 PDT by decarlo
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

Dear Parents and Friends,

"The parents and the kids who knew me as a man, they'll accept me. The person hasn't changed. I'm the same crazy, humorous person I was before.....well, almost."

Sincerely yours,

Dickless

16 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:15:34 PDT by TRY ONE
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To: xzins

A she will never be a he, and a he will never be a she.

Then Explain This.....

17 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:19:08 PDT by hobbes1
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

"the 52-year-old teacher," ....just in time for menopause.

18 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:19:42 PDT by Rustynailww
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

It's Win-Win for the NEA.

One less d*ck, two more b**bs.

We had a similar experience in my workplace, hope (s)he is ready for hell on earth. Of course, it made the papers, and (s)he got hounded, humiliated, and (reportedly) raped (EWW)!

Of course, (s)he didn't want to use the men's room, and women refused to share their facilities, so the company had to set up a "separate but equal" facility for ONE person.

19 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:22:20 PDT by ZOOKER
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To: hobbes1

Didn't he play as one of young Vito Corleone's (DeNiro) lieutenants in GodFather II? The scene where the slumlord who has kicked the old lady out of her apartment gets let into Vito's office by this lieutenant.

20 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:23:20 PDT by xzins
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Sorry, but there is no such thing as a sex change.

This thing will never be able to have a period, PMS, baby, menopause or any of the other distinguishing characteristics and/or phenomena of the female sex.

This thing is now nothing more than a tool box without the hammer.

21 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:25:22 PDT by N. Theknow
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I hope with everything I have that the parents make one heck of a fuss over this. I don't want them to let this pervert NEAR their kids. Complain till you're blue in the face, if any of you are reading this.....

22 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:26:47 PDT by Brad's Gramma
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To: hobbes1

Explain that photo? Freak.

He, she or more appropriately "it" ought be fired from its teaching job. I'm really beginning to hate homosexuals.

23 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:27:49 PDT by onyx
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To: hobbes1

Explain that photo? Freak.

He, she or more appropriately "it" ought be fired from its teaching job. I'm really beginning to hate homosexuals.

24 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:27:54 PDT by onyx
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

Does it have to get a new Social Security number?
What about a new drivers license?

25 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:31:59 PDT by SGCOS
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To: onyx

How do you know it's a homosexual?

26 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:32:01 PDT by extremefree
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To: onyx

Explain that photo? Freak.

Actually that is the nastiest looking so called sex symbol on TV...Sarah Jessica Parker...(I've always maintained she looks like a Trannie!!!)

27 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:32:02 PDT by hobbes1
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To: extremefree

It's not, but her husband just might be...

28 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:32:46 PDT by hobbes1
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I'm so proud of my hometown being in the news. Sheesh.

Back in the 70's, I went to rival Tuckahoe High School, where we had a certain math teacher who was also the photography and media arts advisor. He always seemed to be around the younger boys that arrived each year. My father, after meeting him at a parent-teacher conference, told my brothers and I to stay the f*** away from this guy.

My freshman year in college, I got a phone call from a buddy who said, "Guess who got arrested for child molestation yesterday." I guessed correctly immediately, as I'm sure everyone else in my old school did. I mean, we ALL knew.

And the clincher? This unmarried guy was a boy scout troop leader.

29 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:35:31 PDT by Jhensy
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

Some freeper favorites:

Complaint Dismissed--"Transgendered" Teacher Still Free to Use Restroom of His Choice
TEACHER FORCED ME TO CROSS-DRESS: B'KLYN TEEN
Kids Get Graphic Instruction in Homosexual Sex (in Massachusetts school)
Male Art Teacher's Now a She
First-Grade Teacher Tells Kids He's Gay.
Teacher now admits shooting self in class
Student teachers told to visit homosexual bars as part of a multicultural education course
Gay School Teacher Initially Booked with Almost 400 Counts of Molestation
Community discusses transexual teacher

30 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:49:48 PDT by LarryLied
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To: hobbes1

Never heard of her ... sarah jane parker ... means nothing to me.

31 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:50:33 PDT by onyx
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To: extremefree

------ How do you know it's a homosexual? ---------- How would I know "it" is a homosexual? I merely called "it" a freak, which "it" is.

32 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:53:17 PDT by onyx
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To: Jhensy

And the clincher? This unmarried guy was a boy scout troop leader

How would you like to be in the stall next to this BoyGirl.

33 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:55:59 PDT by Browning 50 Cal
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To: onyx

"it" is. a REAL WOMAN.....On HBO's Sex and the City...She just LOOKS like a Transexual.

34 Posted on 07/24/2001 12:59:36 PDT by hobbes1
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To: jimt, Marc-Yves Tumin, billbears, Texas_Jarhead, Gritty, Tacis, ZOOKER, N. Theknow

"It can call itself whatever it likes..."

In some communities that's true:

From Bending Gender: California's new definition of gender invades private religious schools [Free Republic]:

** "Golden State girls aren't necessarily girls anymore, nor men men, since the State Board of Education (SBOE) shoehorned into California's legal code a new definition of gender. According to Title 5 of the state code, "gender" no longer means male or female, but instead "a person's actual sex or perceived sex and includes a person's perceived identity, appearance, or behavior, whether or not that identity, appearance, or behavior is different from that traditionally associated with the person's sex at birth.

As of June 2000, at least 18 jurisdictions-including Atlanta, Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti, Mich., New Orleans, Seattle, Washington, D.C., and the states of Minnesota and Missouri-had legally enshrined self-determined gender in their nondiscrimination codes using language similar to California's new definition. In all those locales, a person's gender is what he or she says it is, regardless of biology. And employers, including schools, may not take punitive action if, for example, a man wears a dress to work..."

Complaint Dismissed--"Transgendered" Teacher Still Free to Use Restroom of His Choice [Free Republic]

(Gay) School Days [Free Republic]

"First-Grade Teacher Tells Kids He's Gay. [Free Republic]"

35 Posted on 07/24/2001 13:03:40 PDT by EdReform
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To: Marc-Yves Tumin

Is this world sick or is this world SICK!!! Why doesn't this person go to a different state, start his/her life all over again and not put his/her students through all this. ARRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

36 Posted on 07/24/2001 13:05:54 PDT by Marysecretary
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To: EdReform

BTTT

37 Posted on 07/24/2001 13:06:05 PDT by Brad's Gramma
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To: Jhensy

This unmarried guy was a boy scout troop leader.

Hmm, so after the sex change operation [s]he could not be a Boy Scout troop leader anymore? Could [s]he be a Girl Scout troop leader?

38 Posted on 07/24/2001 13:31:59 PDT by A. Pole
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To: Marysecretary

"Is this world sick or is this world SICK!!! Why doesn't this person go to a different state, start his/her life all over again and not put his/her students through all this. ARRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

That’s very, very, very old news. Like since the time Ancient Greece. It’s got to the point where that the inmates that are running the asylum, no longer realize that they were inmates to begin with.

By the way, if any of you had done some research, like I did (I find weird stuff interesting), you’d realize that pedophilia is nonexistent in male-to-female 'MtF' (that is the term used) transsexuals. Also, that the artificial hormones (estrogen) and androgens (suppresses testosterone) that MtF transsexuals take all but kills their sex drive. So, wouldn't worry much on that subject.

Paul C. Jesup

39 Posted on 07/24/2001 14:01:01 PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: hobbes1

Actually that is the nastiest looking so called sex symbol on TV...Sarah Jessica Parker...

You are kidding... right? About being a sex symbol, that is. Yikes. I dumped my TV back in 1990. I'm not missing much, I see.

40 Posted on 07/24/2001 19:13:14 PDT by Denver Ditdat
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