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CERES, Calif. - Rep. Gary Condit showed little affection for his wife or other women, Condit's former bodyguard told The Post yesterday.
"He was never real compassionate," said Vincent Flammini, sitting on the front porch of his mobile home.
"I never saw him kiss his wife on the lips, never saw them hold hands, never even saw him hug her."
When he was with other women, it was much the same, said the ex-bodyguard, who also served as Condit's driver.
Describing a rendezvous in the San Francisco Mall between Condit and stewardess Anne Marie Smith, Flammini said, "The congressmen seemed almost disinterested.
"They just sat across from each other, drinking lattes," Flammini said. "There was no touching."
Privately, Condit would sometimes boast about his conquests. Late last summer, the ex-bodyguard said, Condit told him about a new woman in is life.
"He told me about her anatomy," Flammini said.
" 'She had breasts like melons, a small waist, dark curly hair, and a body that was outrageous,' " he quoted Condit as saying.
The woman wasn't identified by name.
Meanwhile, Condit's wife, Carolyn, remained loyal and never acknowledged she knew about her husband's affairs, Flammini said.
Flammini, a burly 62-year-old weight lifter, said he has received dozens of death threats since he first spoke to a reporter in June.
He said his former boss was always secretive, even about mundane matters such as a visit to a mall to buy a shirt.
"All of his garbage needed to be specially torn up or shredded. That was just Gary," Flammini said.
He said Condit had grown temperamental in recent years, particularly after Gov. Gray Davis, a Condit ally, was elected in 1998.
"He saw himself as a very powerful man," Flammini said.
"When the Democratic convention was in L.A., he had me park in front of his hotel while he went in and shaved. The police told me to move, even though I was with a congressman.
"When Gary came out and saw the car moved, he started screaming and hollering, calling me a f- - -ing idiot."
Flammini left Condit's staff last year because of high blood pressure. He denied any malice toward Condit.
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Wonder if the MPD has questioned Gov. Grayout about Gare.
he started screaming and hollering, calling me a f- - -ing idiot."
"Bounces off me and sticks to you", said the body gaurd.
This story fits perfectly. Everything is about Condit. The only thing Gary Condit every worries about is Gary Condit. Massive ego, self-absorption, endless stream of young women as sex toys. A woman with a brain would see this coming a mile away. There must be a lot of women with no functioning brains.
I saw this fellow on a talk show and he admitted that Condit fired him, telling him that he "needed to be doing something else."
There must be a lot of women with no functioning brains.
Yeah, they're called democrats. We've got a boatload here in NY.
Apparently Condidit and left before the sheets got cool...
He said his former boss was always secretive, even about mundane matters such as a visit to a mall to buy a shirt.
And yet now all his affairs and his many kinky habits (including his secret closet) are publicized daily on TV. This is Gary Condit's Room 101. His worst nightmare come to life. I'm just wondering how long it is before he cracks. It looks like he has lost a lot of weight since May and I'm sure he doesn't sleep much anymore.
"He saw himself as a very powerful man,"
THIS IS THE KEY - HE THINKS AND ACTS ABOVE IT ALL!!!!!!
Ol' Gare's obsession with shredding makes me wonder if he was doing more than screwing around on his wife. I heard someone on FOX this week say that an intell committee colleague who wishes to remain nameless remarked that Condit was a weird guy who'd just sit there during hearings and not say much at all. I've been thinking maybe ol' Gare has more to worry about than murder. And Gare's fondness for DC parks...Haven't DC parks been the spots de jour for dead drops the last few years (and I'm not talking corpses here)?
"I never saw him kiss his wife on the lips, never saw them hold hands, never even saw him hug her."
When he was with other women, it was much the same . . .
"The congressmen seemed almost disinterested.
I'm so confused - I keep hearing he had a romantic relationship with his women.
< /sarcasm>
For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would give this creep the time of day.
There must be a lot of women with no functioning brains.
Men too look at all the votes Al Gore got
Condit's a friend of Gray Davis. Condit succeeded Tony Coelho. A true trio of creeps.
I'm so confused - I keep hearing he had a romantic relationship with his women. < /sarcasm>
That really gets me too. I find it difficult to imagine a relationship less romantic than that between Gary and Chandra.
Except for that between Bill and Monica.
Talk about inappropriate terminology.
That's Chandra Levy...see the white sweater and jeans photo...I noticed the waist thing too.....
Remember Jack Nicholson's famous line in "As Good as It Gets"?
When asked by a bimbo in the elevator how he feels about women, he responds, "I think of a man and then remove all reason and accountability."
LOL!
Does anybody but me think it's quite unseemly for a married man, to be describing the anatomy of his latest conquest with his bodyguard? That's high school locker room stuff.
Just like Clinton, Condit seems to have surrounded himself with a team of enablers, primary of which is his wife.
Of course, Condit )D-Calif.) is not an "affectionate" person. That's why I objcted from the start to the use of the euphamism "romantic relationship" to refer to refer to him and Levy. It was, as this article indicates, pure sex, power and manipulation for Condit, nothing more.
This story has real legs. Condit will be on the gridle until he resigns from the House. And he probably will resign, because the "leaders" of the Democratic Party will tell him to do so -- for fear he will win his primary, tank in the general election, and give the Dems one more seat they have to make up for Dashcle to have any chance to become Speaker of the House.
Condit may be ambitious and full of himself, but he doesn't hold a cnadle to Dashcle in either department.
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Condit had a bodyguard?
Didn't this Condit guy star in that movie with Steven Segal? I think it was 'Above the Law' where he breaks the senator's teeth out with the gun barrel at the end of the movie. I swear it's the same guy.
I know you meant Gephardt, not Daschle (although Daschle apparently has become spokesman for the House as well, given Gephardt's invisibility).
I am glad to see the Davis connection start to come out. In August, the President will be in Crawford (the most boring place on earth as far as reporters are concened). Perhaps some of them, being bored, will start to look at things in California.
One can only hope.
Bodyguard/Driver......Have you been on the space shuttle?
" 'She had breasts like melons, a small waist, dark curly hair, and a body that was outrageous,' " he quoted Condit as saying.
where's mention of face(and BIG NOSE)?
"All of his garbage needed to be specially torn up or shredded. That was just Gary," Flammini said.
Hey, isn't that how Mat Drudge got his intial scoops ? This sounds like someone who was worried about someone bribing him about something. Goint through someones garbage is a pretty routine method of investigation BTW.
I think it's time to burn DC to the ground.
Didn't this Condit guy star in that movie with Steven Segal? I think it was 'Above the Law' where he breaks the senator's teeth out with the gun barrel at the end of the movie. I swear it's the same guy.
I think you've confused that movie with Segal's "Hard to Kill", which had the creepy, cowardly democRAT senator. "Above the Law" had the renegade CIA ghoul who contracted out his hits to the most inept members of the Chicago mafia, instead.
But you're correct, otherwise. I was wondering why that look of Condit's, with the dead eyes that lusted only after power, seemed so familiar.
To Condit, women are like a paper plate at a picnic, when the meal is over, who wants to take the plate home with them.
Given the same circumstances, I do not think there are too many women that would have done anything different than what Chandra did, this is from experience and observation.
This story has real legs. Condit will be on the gridle until he resigns from the House. And he probably will resign, because the "leaders" of the Democratic Party will tell him to do so...
bubba hisself was to meet the same fate courtesy of a visit from robert strauss & other megadems. bubba basically thumbed his nose at the ultimatum of his party elders.
taking a page from bubba's play book, gary "no body, no crime" condit won't "resign" until he's fully vested in his pension & benefits for life, if then.
Has anyone made the connection between the crime and events in Washington? Usually a city or community reflects the type of citizen that resides in that community. Washington did not become the murder capitol of the United States overnight. It has been governed by Congress for almost 200 years.
It competes favorably to the Chicago South side, North Omaha, the Bowery in New York, and any number of tough areas throughout the United States that are extremely sleazy and crime related. The only conclusion that I can come to, is evidently, the politicians in Washington like it that way and reflects their personalities.
To Condit, women are like a paper plate at a picnic, when the meal is over, who wants to take the plate home with them.
LOL!
It's a shame women do this to themselves by messing around with men like Condit.
"Romantic Relationship" terminology ticks me off, too!
This man seeks a particular type of woman, like a predador prefers a specific type of prey. He finds women of any age that are naive, such as a 39 year old AMS, who appears to be as naive as an 18 year old.
He is no better than a wolf scoping out a flock of sheep, looking for the juiciest piece of meat that will be the easiest to catch.
"She had breasts like melons, a small waist, dark curly hair, and a body that was outrageous,' " he quoted Condit as saying."That's Chandra Levy...see the white sweater and jeans photo...I noticed the waist thing too.....
Remember Jack Nicholson's famous line in "As Good as It Gets"?When asked by a bimbo in the elevator how he feels about women, he responds, "I think of a man and then remove all reason and accountability."
That bimbo was Julie Benz, who plays the recurring role of Darla in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and its spinoff, Angel:
He said Condit had grown temperamental in recent years, particularly after Gov. Gray Davis, a Condit ally, was elected in 1998.
"He saw himself as a very powerful man," Flammini said.
And he might have seen himself as even more powerful after the Dubya administration's overtures to him. Don't forget, he was at the president's table at the White House luncheon on April 30, and he had a private meeting with Cheney on May 1.
I had originally thought that Clintonistas might have set Condit up as retaliation for his attending that White House luncheon. But I suppose it's possible that that event, among others, fed Condit's feelings of invulnerability.
The only conclusion that I can come to, is evidently, the politicians in Washington like it that way and reflects their personalities.
The Washington Post did support Marion Barry (who gutted the D.C. Police Department) for the longest time. I wonder why.
DC's crime wave dates back to the 60's "March for (of) the Poor". Hundreds of thousands of poor marched to DC and then stayed. Changed the city very quickly to a refugee camp of welfare recipients.
gary "no body, no crime" condit won't "resign" until he's fully vested in his pension & benefits for life, if then.
I'm sure that is one reason that he won't resign but you also have to remember that the Modesto Stud is stuck on himself. He thinks that he is above the rules of common decency and the law. He would never allow himself to be forced from office. Staying in office is his only power now and just like Bubba, he will not do the right thing. It's his way of thumbing his nose at us.
Richard W.
...the Clindumbs knew ALL about Condidit's dark life.....wonder how they used the info....hmmmm.
bubba hisself was to meet the same fate courtesy of a visit from robert strauss & other megadems. bubba basically thumbed his nose at the ultimatum of his party elders.
Quidam's gray suits? If this really happened, I don't understand how Clinton was able to stay in office. Why would Gore and the congressional Dems have stuck with Clinton during impeachment?
...the Clindumbs knew ALL about Condidit's dark life.....wonder how they used the info....hmmmm.
What I find interesting, is that it seems everyone knew that Condit cheated. The S&M stuff, and the weird secret stuff no, but... I was fascinated 2 weeks ago to see Republican Strategist Ed Rollins, who claims he knew the stories about Condit way back in the 80's when Condit was in the California Legislature.
Political types really think it is no big deal. I wanted to ask Ed Rollins, why he didn't do anything with that knowledge, like investigate it, and help out an opponent of Condit in a congressional run.
I am not exaggerating, when I say that literally hundreds of political insiders were well aware of Condit's reputation, and they have been for DECADES. Washington is a sick town.
LOL! But a good idea!
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Maybe because Ed Rollins had a WIFE and the mother of his child that was Cheating!! I don't understand it.
Why would Gore and the congressional Dems have stuck with Clinton during impeachment?
here's a couple reasons "Why":
1. WHODB
2. 900+ FBI files
3. Vince Foster
I am not exaggerating, when I say that literally hundreds of political insiders were well aware of Condit's reputation, and they have been for DECADES. Washington is a sick town.
Yes, it increasingly looks as if the opportunity for illicit sex is a lot of what motivates people to seek elective office in the first place. That would explain Clinton's fury when the Monica story broke. He thought pursuing that story amounted to changing the rules.
Of course, those rules were changed by Clinton's signing the Violence Against Women Act, which made a defendant's previous sexual history admissible in a sexual harassment suit.
Maybe, if this Chandra-Condit story continues to grow, it may lead to renewed support for term limits.
He was never real compassionate," said Vincent Flammini, sitting on the front porch of his mobile home.
"I never saw him kiss his wife on the lips, never saw them hold hands, never even saw him hug her."
He lacks compassion.
This is a sentence of political death for a democrat.
If the institutional Democratic Party had stuck together, I don't think any potential scandals would have seriously hurt any Dems coming out against Clinton. I don't think the media would have pursued any such scandals.
As for Vince Foster, surely there would have been strength in numbers. Any risk to any individual would have been relatively small. And even one suspicious death could have been used to turn virtually all public opinion against Clinton.
"taking a page from bubba's play book, gary "no body, no crime" condit won't "resign" until he's fully vested in his pension & benefits for life, if then. "
Yup, I agree. That's the bottom line. It's gonna be a photo finish, folks. I'll bet on the pension, and legal proceedings, if any, won't begin until after.
To Condit, women are like a paper plate at a picnic, when the meal is over, who wants to take the plate home with them. LOL!
It's a shame women do this to themselves by messing around with men like Condit.
Who is to say the woman did not consider Condit the paper plate?
Remember that scene in Independence Day, when the aliens blew up the capitol building (I think it was the capitol bldg.)? Put Condidit and the Klintons in there and kablewie!
"He said his former boss was always secretive, even about mundane matters such as a visit to a mall to buy a shirt. "All of his garbage needed to be specially torn up or shredded. That was just Gary," Flammini said."
That degree of secretiveness and misleading people about everyday matters is a hallmark of the psychopathic career criminal, according to researchers (I remember this from a many-year-long study of felons in prison called "The Criminal Personality"-I think, by Semenov and another author I can't recall the name of). After getting to know the researchers, the prisoners were quite frank about many things they did. One of the things they reported was routinely misleading everyone all the time about very mundane daily activities. They just didn't want anybody to have a handle on what they were doing. They needed to keep people around them off-balance and in the dark as a matter of course. This is a fairly serious personality characteristic for a person to exhibit.
I remember that scene in "Independence Day"! Since I had borrowed the video cassette from a friend, I replayed that scene over and over ... It was the White House!! (Clinton's, that is, back then!)
I read on FR that people in the theaters CHEERED when that scene came on!
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Did you see the results of the picture painted by Tom Clancy in his novel, Debt of Honor.
Washington is a sick town.
America is a sick country.
. Late last summer, the ex-bodyguard said, Condit told him about a new woman in is life.
"He told me about her anatomy," Flammini said.
" 'She had breasts like melons, a small waist, dark curly hair, and a body that was outrageous,' " he quoted Condit as saying.
Late last summer? Didn't reports say their relationship started late last fall? Another lie?
No, what was it and I'm sure it's a sight I'd like to see!
Therein lies the problem, all of the women wanted to take Condit (paper plate), home with them. They were not in love with Condit but rather the position he represented. Too many women have difficulty seperating the man from the position.
Haven't DC parks been the spots de jour for dead drops the last few years (and I'm not talking corpses here)
Very good point.
Going through someone's garbage is definitely routine for private investigators as well as law enforecement. You simply pay the refuse company to separate the "subject's" garbage and hold it for you. Don't ask me how I know ;) .....
Flaminni says sometimes he was fired, now he says "high blood pressure"?
Condit was no red-hot lover,cause Condit is sexually dysfunctional!
I doubt if any woman in his whole sorry life ever had an orgasm from him!
He,like Kennedy and Clinton went for quanity,not quality!
Condits hundreds of babes all together probably spent actual time engaged in sex less than the average one year old marriage!
Condit sexually, was a dud!
I say WAS because old Gare aint gonna get much action now, under the spotlight,and once the trial begins,even less,and once he is locked up in Federal prison and then in Terre Haute,awaiting the big needle to Hell,there wont be much sex time!
I think maybe Gary Condit was recruited at an early age by the KGB because they knew something about him,and sponsored his political career!
I think Condit has been dealing with Americas enemys for years!
So, sexualy,he is a dud,as a husband he is a complete failure,and who can think he was ever a good friend to anyone?
So what are Condits good qualities?
I'm waiting!
"(L)iterally hundreds of political insiders were well aware of Condit's reputation, and they have been for DECADES. Washington is a sick town."
I think "literally hundreds of political insiders" are well aware of a LOT of reputations in DC, and they ALL keep almost all of it quiet.
I am not saying "everybody does it"; I don't believe that, but what I am saying is that it's highly probably that a significant percentage of DC politicians and other elites lead nearly BESTIAL lives, and every well-connected beltway type knows this. The Clintons, with their FBI files, were able to use this knowledge very much to their advantage, and very, very few in DC had the guts to go against them. Impeachment (by which I actually mean conviction) NEVER developed a critical mass for what we now know was a very good reason.
You are so right; Washington IS a sick town.
Because she is the one who got thrown away....
"He was never real compassionate," said Vincent Flammini, sitting on the front porch of his mobile home.
It makes sense. Condit has no feelings; he just uses people for sexual gratification.
I remember reading that one of the questions the Levys want to ask Condit (D) on the polygraph is, how long has he known Chandra. We know she worked for Davis and it seems to me that they have info that this "relationship" may have been going on longer than originally thought.
EX-BODYGUARD: CONDIT WAS NO RED-HOT LOVER
This much was obvious. It has been my experience that the bigger the playboy is, the greater his un-performance in bed. They try to make up for their inadequacy buy racking up numbers. I believe Klintoon falls into this catagory as well. The women who fall for these men are just plain stupid.
My guess would be that V.P. Chaney does very well for himelf. Men with that kind of unpretentious self-possession have no trouble giving to others. This makes for more pleasure and fun in the bedroom.
"Remember Jack Nicholson's famous line in "As Good as It Gets"? When asked by a bimbo in the elevator how he feels about women, he responds, "I think of a man and then remove all reason and accountability."
Nice try. Nicholson's character was asked by his literary agent's receptionist how he was able to write - WRITE - like a woman. He replied,
"First, I think LIKE a man. Then I take away all reason and accountability."
Just for precision.
Michael
"for fear he will win his primary, tank in the general election, and give the Dems one more seat they have to make up for Dashcle to have any chance to become Speaker of the House."
I don't think we have to concern ourselves with Daschle becoming Speaker of the House. Daschle is in the SENATE.
Michael
A woman with a brain would see this coming a mile away. There must be a lot of women with no functioning brains.
Doesn't say much for the general public and the gene pool does it.
Condit reminds me of the politician in the movie "Time Cop". Not the best of movies but remarkable how their politician seems to be real.
These old grey men never have to 'perform', they get 'serviced'. Yuck!
Just little grey limpd*cks with power or money. The trophy wife/girlfriend always has a young lover to keep her satisfied.
These old grey farts arent fooling anyone.
I too had him pegged in a movie but a totally different one. You'll have to read the posts to see.
Condit's a friend of Gray Davis. Condit succeeded Tony Coelho. A true trio of creeps.
Bingo - worth repeating for emphasis. I've met Tony Coelho - his picture is in the dictionary next to "slimeball".
Late last summer, the ex-bodyguard said, Condit told him about a new woman in is life...'She had breasts like melons, a small waist, dark curly hair, and a body that was outrageous,' "
Chandra didn't come to DC until October. Can we infer that Gary Condit had started the affair with her BEFORE she arrived for her internship? That the original meeting that Chandra describes where she and her friend just decided to "drop by" his office to meet their Congressman was a SHAM???
This man seeks a particular type of woman, like a predador prefers a specific type of prey. He finds women of any age that are naive, such as a 39 year old AMS, who appears to be as naive as an 18 year old.
He is no better than a wolf scoping out a flock of sheep, looking for the juiciest piece of meat that will be the easiest to catch.
very well put, uvular, I've never heard a better description of bill clinton.
I think of John Millis, Republican chief of staff for the House Intelligence Committee - a CIA veteran - who "committed suicide" in June, 2000. I'm certain he knew all about Condit. It seems like his Republican boss, Porter Goss, chairman of the Intel Committee, didn't want to do anything about it. The committee needs to dissolve immediately.
"What are his good qualities"??
He takes the TRASH out!!!
Valerie, you have the most interesting, insightful comments. I too think the Intelligence Committee aspect has not been given enough attention.
I think you've confused that movie with Segal's "Hard to Kill", which had the creepy, cowardly democRAT senator. "Above the Law" had the renegade CIA ghoul who contracted out his hits to the most inept members of the Chicago mafia, instead.
I don't know about the Segal movie, but Gary Condit does have an acting credit according to the International Movie Database (same date of birth 4/21/48, Salina, OK, so it's the same guy):
uncredited role as Pizzaria Patron in Return of the Killer Tomatoes! 1988.
Any message in this?
With a horse face that would stop a clock. Nose like a dork. Coyote ugly.
House Non-Intelligence Committee
"In August, the President will be in Crawford (the most boring place on earth as far as reporters are concened)."
How the hell can that be?
Within fifty miles of Crawford, one can find some of the best a.) barbecue on earth, b.) Mexican food in the world and c.) Czech food that would make a Prague native weep.
There's even a lutefisk festival just over the hill in Cranfills Gap.
Nor should they miss the Westfest, in West comma Texas, on Labor Day weekend. Cold beer, kielbasa, kolaces and polka music for all.
Those national reporters obviously need a tour guide.
They just don't know howta have fun!
He was describing his newest girlfriend LAST SUMMER? I thought that Chandra went to Washington in the fall. Maybe they met when she was interning for Gov. Greyout.
Condit is NOT a man....
Much like Clinton, he wrongly believed that multiple fornication partners is manly.
It is NOT... It is simply the behavior of a non-man attempting convince himself he is a man..
Neither Condit or Clinton would amount to a pimple on a real man's ass --- they are both men without honor or respect from men.
They had power ONLY from the office they held - offices won under a false flag - not their internal strength of character.
Neither was capable of keeping sworn oath to wife, country or office. Both are worse than traitors.
They have betrayed EVERYTHING but themselves, and in the process - destroyed themselves.
I await the day I can piss on their graves.
Semper Fi
DC's crime wave dates back to the 60's "March for (of) the Poor". Hundreds of thousands of poor marched to DC and then stayed. Changed the city very quickly to a refugee camp of welfare recipients.
I enjoyed some good times in DC in '69; before AA got ahold of the police force.
I always thought it was too much of a coinkydink that she was from his district but she wasn't an intern in his office. Chances are they knew eachother before she arrived in Washington. Do interns need letters of reccommendation? I wonder if he wrote her one. Check out post #58 & #67.
Maybe they met when she was interning for Gov. Greyout.
A strong possibility since Condit's son also works for Grayout.
It would be interesting to know when Chandra made plans to become a DC intern, and who helped her get the job.
Found article in U.S. News 12/13/99 that listed a bunch of corporations and organizations where CONDIT's mentor and friend TONY COELHO was/is a board member. Among one of the more interesting in relation to the Levy case is:
Board member, Service Corp. International. The largest company (with 4,000 funeral homes and cemeteries) in the "death care" business. Faced antitrust action by New York, consumer fraud scrutiny in Texas.
Board member, AutoLend (resigned 1999). Headed by Coelho pal DeSantis, (MAFIA CONNECTION????) this company has had several incarnations, including buying life insurance policies from terminally ill patients. Declared bankruptcy in 1997. Today it rents out slot machines.
Wanna have a pissing contest? I beat Attilla every time!
What does any of this have to do with Levy?
Why would Gore and the congressional Dems have stuck with Clinton during impeachment? here's a couple reasons "Why":4. Continuing 60+% approval ratings among the sheeple.
1. WHODB
2. 900+ FBI files
3. Vince Foster
May as well recognize the true reason. Alas, with the help of the press, Clinton was able to portray himself the victim of right wing persecutor Ken Starr.
That book is "Inside the Criminal Mind" by George Samenow. It's a great book about how criminals think. After reading it I realized "they're worse than I thought!"
Betty Jo!
That doesn't sound very lady-like!
I keep forgetting there are lots of women in this forum.
Attila is blushing...
Semper Fi
4. Continuing 60+% approval ratings among the sheeple.
May as well recognize the true reason. Alas, with the help of the press, Clinton was able to portray himself the victim of right wing persecutor Ken Starr.
agree. it was amazing to watch this play out.
Well, you started it!
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