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(MONTGOMERY)-Attorney General Bill Pryor said that eight states, including Florida and Mississippi, have already joined in an agreement with Alabama to honor the pistol permits of visiting citizens under a new law that becomes effective tomorrow. Under Act 2001-494, visitors from other states may legally carry their handguns in Alabama if they have a valid permit in their home states and if their home states have agreed to do the same for visiting citizens from Alabama.
As of today, the states formally entering a reciprocal agreement with Alabama to recognize one another's handgun permits for visiting citizens are Florida, Mississippi, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, North Dakota, and Wyoming. Following the law's passage, the Alabama Attorney General's Office contacted the appropriate officials in all states to bring as many as possible into reciprocity agreements with our state, and is continuing to negotiate with states to expand the number. The laws of some states prohibit them from entering into such a reciprocity agreement, and others provide for granting special permits to out-of-state visitors who carry handguns. While Alabama citizens may carry handguns in Vermont because that state does not require a permit, Vermont citizens do not qualify to carry a handgun in Alabama because they have no permit from their state. Information on the reciprocity law and participating states will be posted on the Attorney General's Internet web site at www.ago.state.al.us.
"We are pleased to work together with these states to protect the rights of our law-abiding citizens to carry handguns for self-defense when they have proper permits," Pryor said. "Where there is not a conflict between state standards and citizens have met the appropriate legal requirements to exercise their Second Amendment rights, it is appropriate for states to communicate and honor the permits granted by the other cooperating states."
While in Alabama, out-of-state visitors carrying guns must carry their guns in compliance with the same laws and regulations by which Alabama residents must abide. While in another state that recognizes Alabama handgun licenses, our citizens similarly must comply with that state's laws and regulations. If a gun owner from another state becomes a resident of Alabama, the permit from their previous state will no longer be recognized and that person will have to acquire an Alabama license through the county sheriff to continue to legally carry his or her handgun. Alabama law includes the following provisions regarding handguns:
- A pistol is defined as "any firearm with a barrel less than 12 inches in length."
- No one may carry a pistol in a vehicle or concealed on their person without a permit;
- Permits are issued by the Sheriff in the county where the gun owner resides;
- No one may own or possess a handgun if he or she has been convicted of a violent crime (defined as murder, manslaughter, rape, assault, robbery, burglary, kidnapping, and larceny).
- No one who is addicted to drugs or habitually intoxicated may own or possess a handgun.
- Violation of Alabama's pistol laws is punishable by imprisonment of up to one year and a fine of up to $500.
The violator's pistol will be seized and may be forfeited by court order.
Federal law provides the following guidelines for the transport of handguns through states in which the owner does not hold a permit: the firearm must be unloaded; neither the firearm nor ammunition may be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of a vehicle; if the vehicle does not have a separate compartment from the driver and passenger area, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
In addition, federal law forbids the interstate transport, shipping, or receipt of firearms or ammunition by anyone who has been convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment of more than one year; is a fugitive from justice; illegally uses or is addicted to a controlled substance; has been determined by court to be mentally defective or has been committed to a mental institution; is an illegal alien; was dishonorably discharged from the armed service; has renounced his U.S. citizenship; is under court restraint from harassment, stalking, or threatening a domestic partner; or has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.
Act 2001-494 was passed by the Alabama Legislature during the last regular session. It was signed into law by the Governor on May 15 and becomes effective tomorrow, August 1. Pryor commended Assistant Attorney General Pat Roberts of his Public Protection Office, who is coordinating the Attorney General's efforts with other states to arrange reciprocity agreements for gun permits.
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Thanks. FYI.
Mississippi bump
#As of today, the states formally entering a reciprocal agreement with Alabama to recognize one another's handgun permits for visiting citizens are Florida, Mississippi, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, North Dakota, and Wyoming. #
I knew there was a reason I lived in Alabama, and wanted a second home in Wyoming! Lee308
Neato, too bad Tenn and GA not involved. Kind of had to get to KY without going through TN.
Permit holder bump.
I wonder why they left out Texas?
"I wonder why they left out Texas?" Presumably they didn't agree on the details, huh?
BTY, "Don't mess with Alabama."
I wonder why they left out Texas?
Texas guns are BIGGER. They're afraid of 'em LOL
Said they were still working on it... so maybe its still possible for texas! but then, you have the same problem as with TN... its not too much fun without LA or AR.
A BIG BUMP! for a little step in the right direction.
North Carolina can never participate even though we too have a concealed carry law. The rules are so tight that you can only carry a concealed weapon in the privacy of your own home. A little sarcasm there,but damn little saecasm though.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that this never showed up in the Mobile paper or on local TV stations. Did any paper or TV station in Alabama report this?
Sorry, I missed it. It did show up in the Mobile Register on page 2B in today's paper.
A few weeks ago my wife and children drove from Houston to Pensacola, Florida to see Grandma. I stayed home, but equipped my bride with a .357 revolver and five hollow point bullets as a precautionary measure for the trip. You never know what might happen along an interstate freeway and its always better to be prepared than to be sorry.
I told her that she had a "permit". Its called the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution.
I told her that she had a "permit". Its called the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution.
Hear, hear.
"You never know what might happen along an interstate freeway and its always better to be prepared than to be sorry." I was on I-10 in Louisiana on a trip from Houston to Mobile and was stopped by a state trooper for speeding.(I was). He looked at my drivers license then asked if I had a gun in the truck, I said yes. He said, "good, slow down and have a nice trip." He handed my driver's license back then left.
Bump.
North Carolina can never participate even though we too have a concealed carry law.
As of now, you are correct. However, there is a Bill in the works to change this. It is House Bill 442. If this passes, we are apt to have reciprocity in a lot of states, perhaps most.
Contact your Representative and urge him to push the Bill. It has a lot of co-sponsors.
Thanks for the info-I'll do just that.
this calls for a SASsy BUMP!!!.......
Good luck Saturday and have fun.
May I BUMP! your BUMP! ???
I was on I-10 in Louisiana on a trip from Houston to Mobile and was stopped by a state trooper for speeding.(I was). He looked at my drivers license then asked if I had a gun in the truck, I said yes. He said, "good, slow down and have a nice trip." He handed my driver's license back then left.
I'm not sure quite what to make of that...However, as bumpy as some stretches of I-10 are, I certainly hope it wasn't loaded at the time!
i hear you on the constitution but i have an appointment to get a permit here in WA state this coming thursday. i will mention that i shouldn't have to GET a permit according to the constitution, and see how they react. maybe they'll deny me then??? may as well go through the bullcrap. i like to fish in out of the way places and take night photos and you just never know what evil lurks in the hearts of the low life scumbag punks that come out after sundown just like the bloodsucking vampires that they are.
also....i bet a dime to a dollar that california the commie run state will NEVER allow concealed carry, much less 'reciprocal'. idiots!!!
And once again, the citizens of Vermont, the only state with a "pure" view of the 2nd Amendment, get screwed.
Why should I need permission from a state in order to exercise my right to protect myself? Especially if part of that right is protection from the state itself?
Down with CCW permits and licenses! Up with Vermont carry!
only if I get to bump you back........
we had a Shoot and Safety day in Mobile today..talk about a great range and best thing is I didn't have to take my pistol off....cling to at the house and off in the parking lot at the range {course you have to have the action open when ya get there}.......what a great feeling!
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Rockfish59 - I have a concealed carry license from the State of Texas. I went ahead and got it because my friend, an FBI agent, said it would go a long way in keeping me out of jail if I ever had to use my weapon for personal protection. I disagree with the requirement for a license, which is defined as a "revocable right". Because the State of California makes no accomodation for its citizens for self defense, I would recommend to any Californian to go ahead and carry if you desire.
Great!!!! Been waiting for this. Both states are great! Have lived in both. 43yrs. in Alabama and the last 12yrs. in Mississippi.
As of now, you are correct. However, there is a Bill in the works to change this. It is House Bill 442. If this passes, we are apt to have reciprocity in a lot of states, perhaps most.
You're not up-to-date on the status of this bill.
H442 was passed by the NC House on 4/26/01. It has been stuck in the NC Senate Judiciary III committee since 05/01/01.
The one individual who could really move this bill along is the President Pro Tempore of the Senate, Marc Basnight.
His contact information is:
Senator Marc Basnight
2007 Legislative Building,
Raleigh, NC 27601-2808
(919) 733-6854
Email: Marcb@ncleg.net
Be polite, folks.
More info on H442 is on the Grass Roots North Carolina website.
i used to, when i lived there. moved out and glad i did. the constitution has been twisted on this one thanks to LBJ, kennedy, et al. may as well get the permit and save yourself a lot of trouble as they will say 'cry me a river' as you explain the constitution with your hands cuffed!!
Thanks for the information and web-site.
Indiana Bump
Hope this is a winner, but The Virginia (maybe West Virginia) reciprocity says almost the same thing. The problem is that many states requirements are not as stringent. Therefore, there is no reciprocity because they can't let a outsider have less requirements than a citizen. this "loophole" limits reciprocity to a very small number of states
Take a look at this these sites for reciprocity by state and nationally:
http://gunownersca.com/RecpIndx.htm
http://www.packing.org/
http://www.homestead.com/njccw/nationalccw.html
The 'Bama AG is one good friend. He also argued on behalf of Emerson during oral argument phase of the appeal hearing.
Roll Tide !!
Texas has a pretty stringent training/performance requirement. Idaho has none. Reciprocity would have put native Texans on a stricter standard of performance than a visitor with a permit.
California is a "may issue" state. The requirements are clear except for the one that says you must demonstrate a "need". That leaves the issue of a CCW entirely at the whim of the CLEO. Some counties are very lax, others would take an act of the almighty. In San Diego, the LEOs, politicians, judges and celebrities get them without much question. Business owners such as my dentist who stores a fair amount of controlled substances at his office are granted. Ditto for owners of large businesses making large cash drops in the evening.
yeah, but for the poor schmucks like myself and many others who live in the real world (where i lived in hayward, ca. was a crime infested, gang infested, s**t hole) WE ARE DENIED!!! calif. was just too much for me and after living there for 48 1/2 years, i got the hell out. as much as i loved the sierras and death valley, i grew sick of the socialist run state. i hope the voters wise up, but up here we also have the 'kind, caring, groovy city' of seattle and too many RINO's in olympia!!
I was a resident of CA from 1956 to 2001. Now, I'm a resident of Idaho. I'm still working on an assignment in San Diego. I still go to the range 2 or 3 times each week and shoot 200 to 300 rounds. The CCW shooting performance test in San Diego requires 3 of 5 shots in the "8" ring of an Alco BT-5R/2 target at 15 yards. I put 35 of 50 in the colored square at 15 yards (10 ring). The remaining 15 get put through a single, fat hole centered on the "5" printed on the nose at 7 yards. I never applied for a CCW as a CA resident. Not because I could not qualify, but because I didn't have the official "need" that the Sheriff can use to deny the permit.
Source for targets.
He looked at my drivers license then asked if I had
a gun in the truck, I said yes.
He said, "good, slow down and have a nice trip."
LOL!
I grew up thinking Louisiana was just the home to colorful, corrupt elected
officials and a year round debauchery in New Orleans.
Now I'm starting to wise up...they're mostly sane people who know how and when to have fun...
"they're mostly sane people who know how and when to have fun..." Well, I was worried because I did not have a 'carry' permit from anywhere. I had already decided that if I was asked that I would be truthful. I now think that truthfulness saved me a speeding ticket. It probably did not hurt any that I had a "Support your local police" sticker on my bumper either.
so you have to show them you can actually shoot before you get a permit? interesting. thanks for the target site. very cool!!
you were in CA as long as me. i get the creeps when i think about where i used to live. shootouts, gang killings, drug busts right in front of the house, streets cordoned off as a hostage situation was defused, helicopters flying over almost every night. pitiful. i got into putting in ear plugs so i couldn't hear the helicopter or the stupid 'thump' sound from the car stereo's which was a constant source of irritation. i asked a hayward cop one day 'how's business'? and he said 'got plenty of it'!! i am in a slightly more civilized area and it took a while to get used to pleasant people and that has rubbed off on me. amazing what a change of scene will do to lower your stress level.
Thanks, just in time, headed to Foley today.
"Thanks, just in time, headed to Foley today." I remember Foley from my youth. Has it gotten to be a bad place to go?
No, it's very nice and touristy. It's just that I treat smoe things like American Express...
LOL. My brother said that American Express called him and said, "Don't leave home with it."
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