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Screaming Children Kept On Bus In 90-Degree Heat

Culture/Society News Keywords: SCHOOLS, CHILD ABUSE,
Source: World Net Daily
Published: August 28, 2001 Author: unknown
Posted on 08/29/2001 18:11:52 PDT by concerned about politics

Screaming Children Kept On Bus In 90-Degree Heat Parents Upset Over Driver's Actions

PEMBROKE PINES, Fla. -- Several students at Panther Run Elementary in Pembroke Pines may be a little nervous about riding the bus.
A busload of kids, screaming to be let out, was caught on home video Monday. The scene followed a minor accident where the bus hit a fence.

The driver would not let the kids out for an hour and a half despite 90-degree temperatures. Some parents asked the driver to let the kids out, but were refused. The driver cited school board policy that the children could not be let out until police arrived.

Parents say that rule should be thrown out the window, especially when there are nearly three-dozen children sitting in 90-degree heat.

"I know it's a safety issue that you can't have them running all over, but I think there's a common-sense factor that you can't have them sitting in the heat with 20 children on a school bus," Debbie Ghezzi said.

"All my friends were like 'Oh my God we're going to die. It's blistering hot in here, I'm going to faint,'" student Rachel Martin said.

The kids got out when one parent forced open an emergency door. One child was checked for heat exhaustion, but is OK. The school board is investigating the incident.


Right. I'm sure the school board will do something about this type of child abuse...NOT.

The parents had to save the children!

The children are prisoners in the public schools. When will parents wake up and see the public schools have become socialist traing camps, and are no longer institutions for academics?

I feel so sad for the children in public schools today. It must be a horrable place for a child to have to be.

1 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:11:52 PDT by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics

I can clearly visualize the driver without ever having seen them.

I'll bet that you can too.

2 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:19:05 PDT by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF

"I can clearly visualize the driver without ever having seen them. YUP.

3 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:22:12 PDT by blam
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To: concerned about politics

I think the real problem here is that parents are so frigging brainwashed, that they stood around and watched their kids in danger for an hour and a half over "policy" after some idiot bus driver told them they couldn't be let off. If it was my kid, they would have been off that bus in about 1.5 seconds. What the hell is this country coming to?

4 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:24:47 PDT by TheLurkerX
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To: concerned about politics

OMG! School buses have to be banned!

5 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:25:38 PDT by Brett66
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To: concerned about politics

Don't call them "public schools", call them children's prisons. Don't call them "teachers", call them jailers. Don't call them "principals", call them wardens.

You see, liberals are not the only ones who can massage the language to produce desired results.

6 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:26:55 PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: DWSUWF

I can clearly visualize the driver without ever having seen them.

Not defending the driver in this situation; it was clearly ridiculous. HOWEVER:

Would YOU drive a school bus with up to 80 screaming kids on it through who knows what kind of traffic, no air conditioning & very little heat on most school buses, and no other adult on there to help supervise the kids?

I'll teach them, but I'm sure not going to transport them!

7 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:29:57 PDT by Amelia
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To: concerned about politics

I don't have children, but I found out something incredible today. A few of the women in my office were talking about the fact that their children have to schlep around backpacks weighing as much as 35 pounds because they are not allowed to have lockers anymore. I was flabbergasted. NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE LOCKERS.

8 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:30:41 PDT by Hildy
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To: concerned about politics

Why did it take an hour for the Police to get there-that is the question? Was the driver in the bus with the kids? Were the windows open?

9 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:31:43 PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: TheLurkerX

I can assure you if it was my kid he would have been off that bus on his own and quickly. Something is very wrong.

10 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:32:12 PDT by Rev. Lou Chenary
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To: concerned about politics

ZOMBIE!

11 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:32:40 PDT by A+Bert
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To: concerned about politics

Why did it take the cops so long to get there. This is Florida not DC or Denver.

12 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:34:10 PDT by A+Bert
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To: TheLurkerX

I tend to agree with you. The bus driver was just covering his a--. I would have kicked open the door and took my child off also.

13 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:38:11 PDT by mathurine
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To: mathurine

"I would have kicked open the door and took my child off also."

When I was a kid riding the school bus, US KIDS WOULD HAVE JUMPED OUT THE EMERGENCY DOOR! We wouldn't have set there in that heat, waiting around for someone to give us permission.

The parents and the kids are wimps today!

14 Posted on 08/29/2001 19:28:41 PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Bob Mc

Amen. And punishment was more severe back then. We would have done it anyway. Kids these days get a cakewalk, and they still won't stick up for themselves. I'm so sick of getting "contracts" for parental duties from school that I want to puke. They want us to sign our daughter up for self esteem classes that would cut into her actual classroom time. I said no, because I for one think education is a little more important than ego stroking. This whaaa, whaaaaa, poor me, massage my ego crap makes me nauseous. How are our kids ever going to learn to cope with rejection and adversity in the real world if we coddle them, massage them, and treat them like faberge eggs until they get out of college? I'm sure the reason you don't see self esteem insurance, is that you'd lose money by providing it. If your child develops depression, needs therapy or prozac because the world is too mean to them, well, you get a payout. Hell, you'd be out of the insurance business in no time.

15 Posted on 08/29/2001 19:37:04 PDT by TheLurkerX
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To: concerned about politics

What kind of an imbecile bus driver is that? "School Board policy" my ass. This driver lives in Florida; he or she should know about heat exhaustion. I ride a non-air conditioned school bus 45 minutes to and from school every day and it's not comfortable but it's tolerable with the breeze through the windows. An hour and a half in a stationary bus, even with the windows open, could hospitalize someone.

16 Posted on 08/29/2001 19:47:00 PDT by ItsBacon
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To: Bob Mc

When I was a kid riding the school bus, US KIDS WOULD HAVE JUMPED OUT THE EMERGENCY DOOR! We wouldn't have set there in that heat, waiting around for someone to give us permission.

The parents and the kids are wimps today!

My thoughts exactly... until I remembered that they're getting punished for drawing pictures of guns, saying "bang", or stolen kisses by 5 year olds. They're simply programmed, and ready for assimilation.

17 Posted on 08/29/2001 19:54:41 PDT by Teacher317
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To: concerned about politics

The driver would not let the kids out for an hour and a half despite 90-degree temperatures. Some parents asked the driver to let the kids out, but were refused. The driver cited school board policy that the children could not be let out until police arrived.

I would have thought chanting leftist slogans would have been the key to 'freedom' here. How 'bout that.

18 Posted on 08/29/2001 19:58:50 PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Amelia

with 20 children on a school bus," .......

Would YOU drive a school bus with up to 80 screaming kids on it through who knows what kind of traffic, no air conditioning & very little heat on most school buses, and no other adult on there to help supervise the kids? I'll teach them, but I'm sure not going to transport them! 7 Posted on 08/29/2001 18:29:57 PDT by Amelia

Amelia...That's 20 kids, not 80. Just 20. I would have saved the kids.

19 Posted on 08/29/2001 20:14:15 PDT by concerned about politics
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To: He Rides A White Horse

I'm sure that many of the children involved have suffered serious emotional damage. I'm sure that there is a number of sharp lawyers out there who would be very happy to assist the parents of these emotionally damaged children in suing the pants off of the local school district. I think something like twenty million dollars per traumatized child would be appropriate?

With any luck a sufficiently greedy lawyer could bankrupt the entire school district, and free the imprisoned children from the socialist indoctrination being inflicted upon them.

20 Posted on 08/29/2001 20:14:37 PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: ItsBacon

I have to stand up for the bus driver here. Knowing the way school districts operate these days, he would have been disciplined regardless of what happened.

And knowing what I know about lawyers these days when it comes to accidents involving vehicles operated by municipalities, if the bus driver opened the bus doors before the police arrived we would find out a week later that there were actually 872 people on that bus, including the extended family of every kid on the bus.

21 Posted on 08/29/2001 20:18:16 PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: concerned about politics

"I know it's a safety issue that you can't have them running all over, but I think there's a common-sense factor that you can't have them sitting in the heat with 20 children on a school bus"

It's time for everyone to read (or read again) "The Death of Common Sense In America". That book says it all.

22 Posted on 08/29/2001 20:20:31 PDT by Accountable One
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To: Accountable One

Here is a description of "The Death of Common Sense" for those who are unfamiliar...

Distressing, disturbing, devastatingly detailed--this stunning examination of how modern laws are diminishing America exposes the drawbacks of rule-bound government, tells why nothing gets done, reveals the phony pretensions of law, and shows why well-intentioned laws have actually devalued rights. In short, The Death of Common Sense demonstrates how the buck never stops and how well-meaning laws are creating a nation of enemies.

The author is Philip K. Howard

23 Posted on 08/29/2001 20:28:25 PDT by Accountable One
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To: Accountable One

ok...

no kids here...

but IF I had a kid on THAT BUS the shit woulda been split open by ME WAY sooner than you can say Bert and Ernie ....

... and that's just to save the OTHER kids ...

cuz MY BOY woulda been flyin' thru the door either way after he swakked said door with full body rip, as trained....

wimpy people suck ! ! ! !

condit'sguiltyofmurder

24 Posted on 08/29/2001 20:44:09 PDT by CapeFear4W
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To: Hildy

Good. It will build their little muscles.

25 Posted on 08/29/2001 21:09:21 PDT by nm_james
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To: TheLurkerX

Dude, you're my hero.

If you only knew how very, very few of the parents of my son's classmates felt that way, though. On the other hand, if you've got kids, you probably do know. It drives me right up a wall to see how many "parents" out there are terrified of actually saying "no" to their little monsters.

To paraphrase P.J. O'Rourke, it's the new method of toilet-training - just let your kid sh!t all over everything...

26 Posted on 08/29/2001 21:17:58 PDT by general_re
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To: DWSUWF

I wonder if she used the "Sit Down and Shut Up or the Cute Little Bunny Gets It" video in this situation?

27 Posted on 08/29/2001 21:23:07 PDT by strela
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To: concerned about politics

That's 20 kids, not 80. Just 20.

I know there were just 20 on that bus at that time. And I'd have probably done the same. But the bus driver probably got in trouble either way, for not following procedure or for following it.

HOWEVER, those buses HOLD up to 80 kids - or is it 84? I wouldn't drive one.

28 Posted on 08/30/2001 03:50:10 PDT by Amelia
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To: Accountable One

It's time for everyone to read (or read again) "The Death of Common Sense In America".

Excellent choice. And for those who really want to understand it fully, read Bureaucracy by Ludwig von Mises.

29 Posted on 08/30/2001 04:02:43 PDT by TheyConvictedOglethorpe
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To: mathurine

More zero tolerance..

Bus drivers are paid next to nothing so you would not expect to get leadership, judgment or iniative, merely slaves of the policy wonks.

30 Posted on 08/30/2001 04:09:05 PDT by Kudzu Flat
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To: Kudzu Flat

Parents need to get a backbone.When they are on the are afraid to take thier children when they are at risk something is wrong.What do you expect this is Florida.

31 Posted on 08/30/2001 07:29:37 PDT by Micah
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To: nm_james

The good kids suffer because of the bad ones is my point. And if I had a little girl, I would not want her carring 30-35 pounds of books around.

32 Posted on 08/30/2001 11:47:30 PDT by Hildy
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