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Cold Fusion Experiment Produces Mysterious Results
NewScientist.com ^ | 9-4-2001 | Jeff Hecht

Posted on 09/04/2001 2:02:26 PM PDT by blam

Cold fusion experiment produces mysterious results

15:10 04 September 01
Jeff Hecht

A "cold fusion" experiment in California has produced tantalising results - but critics say they may not indicate that cold fusion has actually taken place.

Most physicists treat claims of cold fusion with derision. However, an underground of enthusiasts has continued performing experiments which, they say, demonstrate that deuterium nuclei can fuse to produce tritium and helium isotopes during the electrolysis of heavy water with palladium electrodes. The few outsiders who have tried to repeat the experiments have failed, and claims for cold fusion have not survived peer review to appear in mainstream journals.

Now Brian Clarke of McMaster University in Ontario, Canada, has found something that is not easily explained away.

Researchers at SRI International, a private laboratory in California, carried out a cold fusion experiment - passing a current through heavy water using palladium electrodes - and claimed to see more heat produced than could be explained by the electric power used. They then sent their electrodes to Clarke for analysis. He discovered that they contained more than 1015 atoms of tritium, a heavy radioactive isotope of hydrogen.

"There's no question of the tritium being real," Clarke told New Scientist.

"No explanation"

Although this is more tritium than you would expect to find in a palladium electrode, it is still about 20,000 times less than the amount that would have been produced if the excess heat observed in the SRI experiments had been produced by the fusion of deuterium nuclei, as cold fusion advocates predict. They also predict that helium should be produced in these fusion reactions, but Clarke saw no evidence of helium in the electrodes.

"I have no explanation of how the tritium was produced," Clarke told New Scientist.

Michael McKubre, who performed the SRI experiments, says: "I am not convinced it's a fusion process, but it's definitely a nuclear process."

A spokesman for the UK Atomic Energy Authority's Culham Laboratory who has seen Clarke's analysis said the small amount of tritium "indicates it's an electrochemical effect"--that the heat is produced by the making or breaking of chemical bonds rather than the fusing of nuclei.

Clarke also investigated similar experiments led by Yoshiaki Arata of Osaka University, Japan. Arata's team claimed to have detected an excess of helium-3 and helium-4 isotopes following the heavy water electrolysis. But Clarke's analysis revealed no excess.

Journal reference : Fusion Science and Technology (Vol 40, p 147, 152)


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Here we go again. Yes, I did triple check the date, 9-4-2001
1 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
I truly believe that if Thomas Edison, or Benjamin Franklin had been born during our time, they would never have been allowed to invent anything, much less get credit for it.
2 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: blam
YAA-HOO! Time for me to crank out another batch of "BILLY'S COLD FUSION BEER - Dedicated to Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischman"

prisoner6

3 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by prisoner6 (b_carnes@hotmail.com)
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To: blam, physicist
underground of enthusiasts ....

I still keep newspaper clippings of the original reports from the U. of Utah experiments. It hasn't been explained away...(in my book).

Ashland, Missouri

4 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by rface
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To: blam
They just keep churning this one up, like perpetual motion or room temperature superconductivity. Both may, in a purely theoretical sense, be possible, but that does not mean that either will ever be harnessed in our lifetimes. This cold fusion story came out about five years ago or so, and it proved to be little more than random misreadings of inaccurately collected data then. Is it possible? Maybe, if we can solve sixth- and seventh-dimension geometry, but there have not been very many fourth-dimension geometry problems solved as of yet.
5 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by alloysteel
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To: blam
I'm out of my depth but I don't think you can turn deuterium into tritium electrochemically. Maybe he means the tritium was already there? I'm at a loss.
6 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by VadeRetro
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"There's no question of the tritium being real," Clarke told New Scientist.

No doubt, but how well did they rid the heavy water of tritium in the first place? And did they repeat this experiment with light water, which cold fusion advocates contend should not show a positive result? How much tritium did they see in that control experiment?

What is the distribution of tritium measurements from a series of trials with heavy and light water, and how do they compare to the tritium found in a series of "new" palladium rods?

How much tritium is found when a different metal is used? What should we expect?

The only thing that's clear from this article is that the nuclear processes they are claiming to have seen are not responsible for the excess heat they are claiming to have seen.

7 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Physicist (sterner@sterner.hep.upenn.edu)
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To: VadeRetro
I'm out of my depth but I don't think you can turn deuterium into tritium electrochemically. Maybe he means the tritium was already there? I'm at a loss.

I'm sure he means the excess heat was generated electrochemically. As for the "excess" tritium -- being off by a factor of 20,000 is, in my humble opion, being off by a significant amount. I'm going to keep my connection to the power grid for a while.

8 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by js1138
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To: rface
It hasn't been explained away...(in my book).

Careless calorimetry seems to be the most likely explanation. In any case, Pons and Fleischman apparently still buy their power from the power company.

9 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Physicist (sterner@sterner.hep.upenn.edu)
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To: Physicist
party pooper.
10 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Williams
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To: VadeRetro
He means the heat was not from fusion.

By the way, does more than 1015 atoms of tritium, mean 1016 or 1015000000?
11 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by balrog666
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Another thing I thought I knew was that, while deuterium is found in nature, tritium isn't. But that's a big IIRC there.
12 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Natural abundance: 0
13 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by VadeRetro
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As one who felt there might be something to cold fusion upon hearing the initial reports, I have become quite skeptical of the subsequent claims. The following questions are the type which must be addressed before claims of cold fusion should even be entertained. First, how much excess energy was produced? Second, what was the uncertainty in the measurement? Third, how many times was the experiment repeated and what was the range of results? Fourth, what would passing a current through the palladium wire have to do with a nuclear reaction? Finally, have any other labs reproduced the result?
14 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Faraday
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To: VadeRetro, physicist
Is that zero rounded off? I expect so.
15 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by js1138
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To: VadeRetro
I think I remember thast also....deuterium is found in nature, tritium isn't......except I think that Moon dust has a lot of it because of solar wind
16 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by rface
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To: blam
The few outsiders who have tried to repeat the experiments have failed, and claims for cold fusion have not survived peer review to appear in mainstream journals.

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This statement is entirely incorrect.

17 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by RLK
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What I would like to see is the distribution of palladium isotopes before and after those tests which produce "excess heat".
18 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by monocle
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To: Faraday
Finally, have any other labs reproduced the result?

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Yes.

19 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by RLK
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To: balrog666
"By the way, does more than 1015 atoms of tritium, mean 1016 or 1015000000?"

The "15" should be superscripted -- that's 1 quadrillion (thousand billion if you're a Brit) atoms. Not enough to explain the claimed heat production, but still mighty peculiar. The number should have been a lot closer to zero.

The Pons and Fleischman paper is worth reading. The guys didn't just stumble into their "finding." Rather, they predicted on the basis of hydrogen's coulomb barrier and how tightly hydrogen packs into palladium that probability of fusion might be significant.

20 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by OBAFGKM
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