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Amherst, Mass., Tries to Allow Its Aliens to Vote
FOX News ^ | 9/04/01 | AP

Posted on 09/04/2001 8:23:11 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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1 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Is there no Federal law preventing non citizens from voting? Or would different states have the right to sue a state for stacking it's ballots with illegal votes?
2 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
I don't know if I really want E.T., ALF and Mr Spock voting. Of course if Mr Spock voted it would be the LOGICAL choice.
3 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Rayzuk
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To: MissAmericanPie
Similar points were brought up during the debate over AlGore's attempted theft of the election. I am quite sure that it is unconstitutional for one state to allow its illegals to vote for federal elections or to be counted for the purpose of apportioning to itself more representatives and electoral votes (or for that matter, apportioning more votes to Democrats than Republicans). I'd say that the 14th amendment and whichever article has to do with the census would be directly violated by such an arrangement.
4 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by TN Republican
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To: kattracks
Only citizens should ever be allowed to vote! These people are insane!
5 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: TN Republican
font fix.
6 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by TN Republican
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To: TN Republican
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7 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by TN Republican
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To: kattracks
Massachusetts residents who pay local taxes are not allowed to decide how their money is spent.

OK, but only if people who don't pay taxes can't vote.

8 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: MissAmericanPie
It wouldn't matter if there is a law. Virtually anyone can vote, at least in California. No one is checking to see if anyone is a citizen. You can register your dog. Let him vote absentee. Woof.
9 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Criminal Number 18F
I feel your pain. hehe
10 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: kattracks
Amherst, although in the Commonweath of Massachusetts, is actually located in another galaxy.

Try not to pay any attention to the socialist, "utopian" "tolerant", "diversity" loving denizens of that part of "Happy Valley".
11 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by BansheeBill
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To: kattracks
Become a citizen, Morales, then you won't need to worry about 'taxation without representation!"
12 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by brat
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To: MissAmericanPie
Is there no Federal law preventing non citizens from voting?

Regardless, it is wrong and should not be allowed.

13 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
For that matter it shouldn't be allowed for some polls in some states to stay open until ten pm during a Presidential election, in order to enable democrat voters to go from polling place to polling place by bus, but they did, and it was allowed. Nothing really happened to them for breaking the law.

We have many fronts to watch in this war, the polls, treaties, and Rinos.

14 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: kattracks
Actually it's a good idea, these non-citizens will have a special registration that will keep them from voting in state and national elections.
15 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: MissAmericanPie
Hi MissAmericanPie.

The proposal is to allow them to vote on local positions and ballot initiatives. They would not be allowed to vote on anything else.

Here is my take.

  1. I think that localities should be free to craft their own laws and rules regarding the handling of their local elections and ballot issues. So depending on how it is worded and implemented, I would not have a problem with Amherst doing this, since I don't live in Amherst.
  2. If I did live in Amherst, I would say "this is nuts, we should not be doing it". Voting is a right of American citizenship, and should be treated as such. Why give aliens yet another reason to not bother integrating and assimilating themselves into society?
  3. Regarding the implementation, I would want to see extreme caution used to prevent voter fraud in elections above the local level. At a minimum, I would want to ensure that elections where aliens could vote be held on a different day than statewide or national elections, have the voter rolls be completely seperate for both, etc.

16 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: Mike Darancette
I don't know if I would go so far as to say "it is a good idea", but I do think it would be a good idea to let Amherst decide how Amherst is going to conduct Amherst's governance.
17 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: JMJ333
Amherst (home to several colleges and the wooly-headed thinking intrinsic to such) is notorious for this sort of thing. I happen to know a fellow who is elected to the town meeting there, and he always moves to dismiss these types of soggy pabulum.

He always goes down in flames too. Amherst keeps conducting its own foreign policy, and it has sister cities agreements with all the surviving Communist hell holes. But there are enough isolated conservatives to keep putting this guy back in. Unfortunately he is out of the country but I will try to get an update to/from him over the next few days.

Maybe he can FReep over the satphone. He, he, he.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 19F

18 posted on 09/05/2001 11:07:00 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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