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Bosnian Poster Boy for Clinton caught with Hand in US taxpayer Till [MT]
Wash Post | Sept 6th, 2001 pg A16 | R. Jeffrey Smith

Posted on 09/06/2001 12:49:42 PM PDT by vooch

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SARAJEVO, Bosnia -- Financial police in Bosnia have leveled detailed accusations of economic fraud against the man who was the government's spokesman to the world during the 1992-95 Bosnian war.

Muhamed Sacirbey, the former U.N. ambassador and foreign minister, is at the center of an investigation in which Bosnian auditors looked at the books of the country's U.N. mission in New York and concluded that $610,982 in government funds had disappeared last year, officials here said.

The auditors also concluded that "fictitious bookkeeping" was used to hide what happened so that Sacirbey could try to pay it back.



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1 posted on 09/06/2001 12:49:42 PM PDT by vooch
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To: Balkans, crazykatz, hoplite, torie, ranger, pericles, bluester
note that Sacribey is a US citizen, I do believe that misusing (aka stealing) US taxpayer's money (ie the Train and Equip funds) is a federal crime.

But more to the pt., What do the Humanitarian Warriors of FR think about their poster boy for Clinton's BiH policy getting caught red handed ?

But just because Clinton lied, and Sacribey lied......doesn't means they aren't liars......right ?

when will the humanitarian warriors finally realize that the lies and half truths they used to fool the American Public into supporting Clinton's War are fully discredited ? When will these humanitarian warriors cease and detist their enternal campaign of death and destruction and finally turn to the cause of peace ?

2 posted on 09/06/2001 12:56:23 PM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
you did not provide the link.
3 posted on 09/06/2001 1:02:48 PM PDT by Pericles
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To: vooch
Good ol' boy Muhamed just couldn't resist that pile of cash.
4 posted on 09/06/2001 1:13:09 PM PDT by rebdov
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To: vooch
Hey, that's chump change to a UN thief!! Where's the rest of it? Where's the money that was contributed directly by countries as their share of a specific project and de[posited directly into an account with a UN name but owned fully by this guy? Look at some of the banks on NYC's upper east side. This is what UN bureaucrats do. They skim off money paid in dues and intended for some decent purpose. How could this guy afford a nice place for his family in NYC and a nice place for his girl friend, as well. The UNers in NYC live very high off the hog, thank you, and can't afford that on the legal salaries they earn.
5 posted on 09/06/2001 1:54:35 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: rebdov
Since ol' muhammad sackabeesh-+ is a muslim...might it be possible for him to LOSE A HAND OR TWO over this Theft????

One can HOPE...dare to dream!!!

6 posted on 09/06/2001 8:00:09 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: rebdov
#4

LOOOOOOOL!!!!

rebdov,Ijust can`t post anything else after your brilliant comment!!!

7 posted on 09/06/2001 10:41:19 PM PDT by branicap
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To: Pericles, Hoplite, Ranger, Bluester, Kate22, joan
sorry 'bout that
8 posted on 09/07/2001 6:37:25 AM PDT by vooch
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To: rebdov
Yes rebdov, the fact that you are awarded for your words (Muhamed) just proves how very tolerant some people here are, that really do like Albanians and Muslims in general and they welcome them. But just those good, loyal ones! Indeed!
9 posted on 09/07/2001 7:45:09 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester
What exactly are you protesting? The crook in the article was Muhamed. Muhamed could not resist that pile of cash, and YOU admire that dude? I sure hope you don't work as an accountant or for a bank. Sticky finger complex?
10 posted on 09/07/2001 12:02:09 PM PDT by rebdov
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To: rebdov
No I don't admire that dude, but I also don't admire the strong anti-Muslim sentiments that are present all over here. As thought they are the only evil around. Especially concerning Bosnia and Kosovo. That's what bothers me.

And yes I do work in a bank.

11 posted on 09/08/2001 1:47:50 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester,Vooch,rebdov,Pericles,crazycatz
Lawful Theft

by M.G.

Feral Tribune, Split, Croatia, February 10, 2001

Borut Ozura, the president of the Ljubljanska Bank in restructuring,believes that Croats would accept every nonsense as long as it has something to do with Serbs. To the question whether it was customary to resolve a problem of a bank with a constitutional law (in an interview to Jutarnji List) he says the following: "With that law Slovenia defended her interests against account holders from Serbia". He obviously believes that to cheat Serbs, especially those from Serbia, is completely legal and that everyone in Croatia would agree and support that. Furthermore, after such an answer no one would dare ask how come that that "anti-Serb" law also strongly affected the account holders from Croatia? And really, that constitutional law, with only two articles, is at the same time anti-Serb, anti-Croat, anti-Bosniak, anti-Macedonian, and anti-Albanian...; briefly, it is against all those individuals who during the former Yugoslavia held their savings in Ljubljanska Bank, and were not Slovenians from Slovenia. Actually, this is nothing but a banal swindle which, against better customs, but totally in agreement with customary Balkan practice, was carried out in the Slovenian Parliament. The Parliament founded the New Ljubljanska Bank, and transferred all the business deals, all the property, and all the employees of the old Ljubljanska Bank to the "new" company, while the "old" Ljubljanska Bank was left with all the debts that it cannot pay back as it lacks both money and property. The law that prescribes that has the force of the constitution and therefore cannot be challenged in the Constitutional or any other court.

Probably only the Ljubljanska Bank knows how much money from other parts of the former Yugoslavia was stolen in that manner. The management of the bank has in the past claimed that half of all of its business originated from outside Slovenia. Ozura now claims that 132,000 of Croat account holders who did not transfer their accounts to Croatian banks are owed $155 million, $172.5 million including interest. That means that the Ljubljanska Bank has applied the annual interest rate of 0.5 percent for the last ten years on the accounts that it has frozen by force.

Recently, Croatian account holders (as well as the state, which claims $255 million from the Ljubljanska Bank, due to the money that has been transferred to the public debt) have received good news that the senior Slovenian officials have finally admitted that they owe anything. Until recently they persistently claimed that that money had been spent on credits to Croatian companies, so that Croats have nothing to ask for. (It is true that the Ljubljanska Bank gave about $85 million of credit in Croatia, while everything else was taken in a van to Ljubljana).

However, Borut Ozura now brings up that old empty story, claiming that they would pay money back to their customers if only the Croatian companies paid back the money they owe to the Ljubljanska Bank. But in Slovenia, the Ljubljanska Bank failed to recover all of the debts it was owed by the local companies while the Yugoslav market still existed and yet that did not prevent it from fulfilling its obligations towards individual account holders in Slovenia. Why is Ozura again falling back on "arguments" that were supposed to had become obsolete? Because he is still defending the right of the Ljubljanska bank to steal the money deposited by its customers from other states formed after the break up of the former Yugoslavia. Slovenians got their money, and protected themselves from all the other "Serbs" by a constitutional law. However, they had to admit that sooner or later they would have to pay that money back. When? No one knows!

Is this the bank you are working for,Bluester?According to your posts,you`re fully qualified for a management position!

And,by the way,spare us all your "poore Muslims" drivel!

This thread is about a corrupt politician(nationality unimportant) who swinddled money from his government!

Don`t plant your own evident chauvinism on other people!

12 posted on 09/08/2001 5:20:58 AM PDT by branicap
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To: bluester,Vooch,rebdov,Pericles,crazycatz,Joan
In June 2001, the long-running dispute between Slovenia and Croatia over the 664-megawatt (MW) Krsko Nuclear Plant, the only nuclear plant in the former Yugoslavia and Albania, was resolved. The plant is located in Slovenia, but was built jointly by Croatia and Slovenia prior to the dissolution of the former Yugoslavia. Slovenia had made the Krsko plant into a public company, and stopped supplying Croatia with power from the plant in 1998. Under the current agreement, Croatia will be co-owner of the plant (including assuming partial responsibility for the nuclear waste produced), and will begin receiving electric power from the plant again by July 2002.

Regional Energy Brief 2001

You like stealing other peoples money,don`t you Bluester!?

13 posted on 09/08/2001 5:30:02 AM PDT by branicap
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To: branicap
You obviously don't know what you'r talking about. First of all, KRSKO is still owned by both countries. When Slovenia cut Croatia the energy from Krsko , it was because the Croats weren't paying for the electricity for several MONTHS, something you obviously don't know! We were not ready to deliver energy for free, since it costs a lot of money. When they finally payed for it the distribution continued!

As for the money that NLB owns, much of it is the money that the former National Bank of Yugoslavia owned to the citizens of ex Yugoslavia, and some simply wanted that NLB payed it off because it had the best financial liquidity. The money NLB owes, will be eventually payed off by agreement with other ex republics, but we're certainly not gonna be paying the debts of other banks from ex Yugoslavia. But I guess you'r an expert for the whole Yugoslavia so you can't never be wrong. And the article is from Feral Tribune Branicap. But I guess that anything is good for you, at long as it shows Slovenia in bad light. Even if it's articles from magazines that are not really serious. Ah well....

14 posted on 09/08/2001 5:53:04 AM PDT by bluester
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To: branicap
Don`t plant your own evident chauvinism on other people!

Speak for yourself Branicap.

15 posted on 09/08/2001 5:55:20 AM PDT by bluester
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To: branicap
And we could also talk about numerous branch businesses of Slovenian companies in Croatia and Serbia that were nationalized (stolen) and were never returned back.
16 posted on 09/08/2001 6:15:45 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester
Hardly.......

all part of the issues revolving around the commie Racan's violent succession from the SFRY and SFRY assets.......as you well know.

when Slovenia renouces all claim to SFRY assets, it will have rights to claim ownership of branches......

17 posted on 09/10/2001 8:15:20 AM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
Those branches are already lost, and we don't make any illusions that they'll be returned. Actually some have been, most not. But for the sake of friendly relationships and further peacefull coexistence, we're ready to make generous compromises, also because of the economic situations in those republics. And that's just fine with me Vooch. As a small country, we were forced to renounce to many things in the past and present. We're not a political and military super-power with strong allies ready to firmly back us any time needed. We pretty much rely on our own capabilities.
18 posted on 09/10/2001 9:20:44 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester
name one single specific "compromise" offered by the Slovenes regarding SFRY assets.
19 posted on 09/10/2001 10:13:25 AM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
Well Vooch, I dont intend to argue here really, but much about the of the money of National Bank of Yugoslavia (joint money, gold)suddenly dissapeared in the 90's. We could talk about the numerous bank accounts of some people that became billionares out of nothing (Milosevic). Wonder where some of that money ended? Banks accounts in Cyprus and Switzerland.
20 posted on 09/10/2001 10:33:24 AM PDT by bluester
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