The missile will be able to destroy ships as well as fixed land targets. The missile has a range of about 250 miles and Russian missile designers say the weapon cannot be countered by current anti-missile systems.

Well, there is ONE anti-missile system that will still work: Massive nuclear retaliation on the offending country.

The missile will be able to destroy ships as well as fixed land targets. The missile has a range of about 250 miles and Russian missile designers say the weapon cannot be countered by current anti-missile systems.

Why didn't the Russians give /sell this missile to the Yugoslav army when it was getting targeted with tomahawks off the Adriatic coast ?

They could have knocked out a couple of those cruisers or sunk a carrier hopefully .

That Yelcin was a boozing chickinshit dope

Smoking gun. With a supposed 'arms embargo', it wouldn't take long for the West to figure out where the missiles came from. Still, the Yugos did recieve new seeker heads for some of their sams and other 'equipment'...

VRN

May the Chinese return some of these weapons to Russia over-night delivery...

What kind of UNAMERICAN Bull S--T is this. You are talking about US Navy ships with thousands of American Men (and women too) on them. You are a real SICKO.

Newbie disruptor bovine scat? Time to punch out and hit the abuse button on this twerp?

Crock2000 member since September 5th, 2001

What kind of UNAMERICAN Bull S--T is this.

Well, yeah. He's prolly not an American. He's prolly one of those Slav Slobs.

I was recently on business at the MAKS 2001 airshow near Moscow. While I did not go over to the weapons displays, I was really impressed with the flight displays and current level of quality engineered into the latest civil aircraft. As an A&P with 22 years in the aviation business, and a comprehensive background including inspection, overhaul, management, line maint, avionics - LMP release authority, etc., > I inspected several of their aircraft very closely for quality standards and compliance. "Awesome", is my feeling about the Be-200 and Tu-204/214 especially. There are many other examples in helicopters, general aviation, etc. I have developed respect in a place I once reserved for "other" feelings.

Policy-makers over here need to understand we do not live in a vacume, and that a market economy in Russia is now driving economic decisions, as well as funding systems development. Aircraft currently in production in Russia are designed to ICAO standards accepted by authorities world-wide. The Sukhoi flight exhibitions gave a very sobering impression of the direction they took several years ago toward greater aerodynamics and improved performance characteristics of their aircraft. Vectored-thrust engines allow maneuvers previously unobtainable by any aircraft, including all of our current fighter forces. Russia is going to sell - successfully - these new aircraft to all buyers, while the more expensive technologies made here (eventually) will prove unobtainable by foreign countries due to extreme expense. The largest problem is that Russia's customers will include many former US customers for fighter aircraft, and that even our air forces will not be equipped with the next-generation aircraft (JSF) for many years. NOW there is a vacume!

Worse, now that all the '80s and '90s b/s rhetoric about "stealth" technologies is being proven questionable, we are left with a procurement plan and unmarketable fleet of aircraft that will place us BEHIND Russia and some other nations in the defense marketing sector.

The time is now to get a "TRANSPOLAR" Free Trade Agreement WITH Russia, and realise a market system is ruling the sea and air. Trade is the strategy we need to employ. Not weapons-first dipolomacy.

BTW, I voted for GWB, and am very happy about it. Go to hell, mass-media!

You miss the whole strategy, by supplying the Chinese, Russia puts off the fight against them, until it is on Russia's terms. How, you might ask. Easy. This plan accomplishes two very important facits: 1. By selling/providing weapon systems to the Chinese (which by the way are usually down graded from the original) it prevents the Chinese from investing and building their own weapons industry. 2. By being their chief provider, you are also the chief provider of replacement parts...prevents the Chinese from creating their own supply system and thus hampering any of their attempts to attack you...parts will run out and for such technology there is a very high learning/development curve that will take to long to produce before a conflict is resolved. 3. The usuage curve is very high, thus by the time the Chinese master the operation and tactical/strategic aspects of the weapons, Russia has already moved on to the next generation.

Lastly, by allowing the Chinese to arm and be dependent on Russian oil and parts and expertise, it is easier to deflect their attention into the South and East. Let them fight Tiawan and Vietnam and the Phillipines...if America gets involved and Australia...all the better, it will prolong the war, ease pressure of off Russia's real allies (aka Yugo and Maki) and cause a greater collateral damage of China, which will take longer to recover...thus allowing Russia to be better prepared for the eventual confrontation.

Check-mate.

Yes, those evil capitalistic reds who have already paid off $9 out of $18 billion in IMF 30% interest loans...just because your businessmen get to make that 30% interest off of loans guaranteed by your tax payers monies, whose fault is that?

I am not for IMF loans, only Standard Business Practices. Rebuilding Europe and Japan (at far greater expense) was done with the help of a lot of liberal, left-wing advisors ("Made In Japan", Akio Morita)..., but eben this did not break our country, nor will real business with the emerging democracies of former Soviet empire.

I am not for IMF loans, only Standard Business Practices. Rebuilding Europe and Japan (at far greater expense) was done with the help of a lot of liberal, left-wing advisors ("Made In Japan", Akio Morita)..., but even this did not break our country, nor will real business with the emerging democracies of former Soviet empire.

I am not for IMF loans, only Standard Business Practices. Rebuilding Europe and Japan (at far greater expense) was done with the help of a lot of liberal, left-wing advisors ("Made In Japan", Akio Morita)..., but even this did not break our country, nor will real business with the emerging democracies of former Soviet empire.

Is there an echo in here? here? here?

Whose military is America building up? Russia is repaying its LOANS. As for China, you aren't giving them loans, you are giving them cash every time you go to Kmart/Walmart or just about anywhere else. As for Russia, let me ask you this: Why should Russia trust America? What has America done to earn Russia's trust? Buying out Yeltsin on a regular basis doesn't count.