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SENATOR WARNER (RINO, VA): NO DECLARATION OF WAR / DEMS TYING PRESIDENT'S HANDS
Reuters English News Service
| 9/13/01
| Adam Entous
Posted on 09/13/2001 11:01:24 AM PDT by tellw
NO FORMAL DECLARATION OF WAR
Sen. John Warner of Virginia, ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee, said a formal declaration of war would be inappropriate and problematic.
First off, Warner said, "I think it would be beneath our dignity to have a declaration of war against (Osama) bin Laden," the Saudi-born, anti-western dissident living in exile in Afghanistan who has emerged as a potential suspect in Tuesday's attack.
"Secondly," Warner said, if there was such a declaration, "the American public and the world would expect the troops to move the day afterward, and I don't think we are anywhere near, in the assessment of the situation, to have that clarity."
Early Thursday morning, a separate resolution condemning the most deadly terrorist attacks ever on American soil won final congressional approval.
The House passed the nonbinding measure by 408-0, about 12 hours after the Senate also unanimously approved it, 100-0.
The resolution declared Wednesday "a national day of unity and mourning," promised to increase "resources in the war to eradicate terrorism" and thanked foreign leaders who have "expressed solidarity with the United States."
House and Senate leaders hoped to reach agreement on yet another measure on Thursday, one that would provide $20 billion in emergency relief in response to terrorist attacks.
Bush initially asked for open-ended spending authority to deal with the devastation at New York City's World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But some members balked. So Republican and Democratic leaders moved toward crafting the limited package.
The money would be spent on: insuring federal, state and local preparedness; investigating and prosecuting the perpetrators; tightening airport and other transit security; pursuing rescue and recovery at the sites; and meeting overall national security needs. Copyright © 2000 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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We need to get on the phones to Congressional offices.
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:01:24 AM PDT
by
tellw
To: tellw
Public NoticeSenator Warner says no declaration of war.
Senator Warner, just what would it take for you to vote for a declaration of war?
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:04:03 AM PDT
by
Jay W
To: tellw
I see nothing wrong with what Sen. Warner is saying. And how did the Dems tie the President's hands?
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:05:23 AM PDT
by
Coop
To: tellw
I made my call....
Warner said, "I think it would be beneath our dignity to have a declaration of war against (Osama) bin Laden," the Saudi-born, anti-western dissident living in exile in Afghanistan who has emerged as a potential suspect in Tuesday's attack.
It's this kind of thinking that got us in this trouble in the first place. What an idiot.
To: tellw
"Secondly," Warner said, if there was such a declaration, "the American public and the world would expect the troops to move the day afterward, and I don't think we are anywhere near, in the assessment of the situation, to have that clarity." Is this the same prig who married Elizabeth Taylor?
Apparently only Warner would expect action THE NEXT DAY. What an idiot, and no wonder we fall victim to sneak attacks.
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:06:46 AM PDT
by
Petronski
To: tellw
When an "act of war" has been perpetrated on us, do we really need to "declare" war? They declared war on us. This is a silly way for congress to flex it's muscle and become the center of attention. I've heard many Dems be more supportive. Sad.
To: tellw
I made my call....
Warner said, "I think it would be beneath our dignity to have a declaration of war against (Osama) bin Laden," the Saudi-born, anti-western dissident living in exile in Afghanistan who has emerged as a potential suspect in Tuesday's attack.
It's this kind of thinking that got us in this trouble in the first place. What an idiot.
To: Jay W
Senator Warner, just what would it take for you to vote for a declaration of war? How about a country to declare war upon?
To: Jay W
Exactly who are we declaring war against? We have no concrete proof that Bin Laden is culpable here. I think we DO need a broader anti-terrorism plan to take the likes of Bin Laden and other terrorists OUT. But this is a different situation that will call for a different response than that against the Japanese after Pearl Harbor.
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:09:00 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
To: tellw
This is war, not a "police action." We didn't start it. But we'll have to finish it.
No Quarter. Declare War.</FONT SIZE>
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:09:24 AM PDT
by
GVnana
To: tellw
The money would be spent on: insuring federal, state and local preparedness; investigating and prosecuting the perpetrators; tightening airport and other transit security; pursuing rescue and recovery at the sites; and meeting overall national security needsIn other words, the money will be spent on taking away our freedoms and doing absolutely nothing about what happened Tuesday. Just what I feared. It is time.
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:09:52 AM PDT
by
Loopy
To: tellw
One little side effect of this rotten act of war, is that we will now be able to clearly identify the enemies of freedom both foreign and domestic.
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:10:18 AM PDT
by
45Auto
To: Coop
how did you get out of the coop? back in now, we need eggs!
bok-bok-bokEKK!!!
To: Media2Powerful
YES. Check the Constitution. If one is a Constitutionalist, one must recognize that only congress can declare war. Unfortunatly, the executtive brance has gotten awy with several "police actions" since WWII.
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:11:00 AM PDT
by
Clemenza
To: Coop, tellw
Warner said, "I think it would be beneath our dignity to have a declaration of war against (Osama) bin Laden"I have to admit, it would be strange for a nation as large and powerful as this one to have to declare war against one man. However, I don't believe there's anything undignified about a general declaration of war against not only his organization but every nation that has offered or provided him any form of assistance (specifics to be determined as they become evident).
To: tellw
I would like to know what they plan to spend the $20 billion on. I have no problem with them spending it on the searchs, as well as airport security etc. However, I will be that a good part of it is earmarked for bailing out the insurance companies, whose job is it to measure and manage risk.
To: tellw
First off, Warner said, "I think it would be beneath our dignity to have a declaration of war against (Osama) bin Laden,"It didn't seem beneath our dignity to have a declaration of war against the Barbary pirates. Or Adolf Hitler, for that matter.
To: dirtboy
As we did in the early 19th century by declaring war on the Barbary Pirates (the terrorists of their day), we declare war on Bin Laden's vermin, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, related/ derivative groups, and supporting nations.
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:13:42 AM PDT
by
jimkress
To: dirtboy
People seem to be forgetting tht under the WPA the Pres has wide ranging authority for the use of military force. The only constraining factor is the funding, and I believe the wording of the resolution being passed will be sufficient for him to begin prosecution as soon as perpetrators locations are pinpointed. If and when specific evidence linking nation-states to these attacks is compiled at that point a formal declaration might be appropriate.
To: Bob Quixote
You a$$ hole democrat! A declaration of war doesn't have to be against a country.
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posted on
09/13/2001 11:14:23 AM PDT
by
babygene
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