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RON PAUL - We Must Remember Our Responsibilities
Antiwar.com ^ | September 12, 2001 | Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)

Posted on 09/13/2001 5:36:07 PM PDT by JRadcliffe

Tuesday, millions of Americans awakened to find the nation at war, attacked by barbarians who targeted innocent civilians. This senseless slaughter of human life was reprehensible, and must be denounced by all civilized peoples. For the moment, we can only share our grief and our condolences with those who lost family and friends.

In our grief, we must remember our responsibilities. Congress has an obligation in this constitutional republic to preserve freedom and provide for national security. Sadly, our security measures were not adequate to prevent Tuesday's tragedy. We must be willing to honestly examine our policies, and change those that weaken our national security.

When we retaliate for this horror we have suffered, we must be certain that we punish only those who are guilty. There is an understandable sense of urgency in the nation, a sense that Congress should take action immediately. However, we must not kill innocent civilians in our rush to retaliate against those truly responsible.

Times of tragedy and war naturally bring out strong emotions in all of us. Yet we must be careful to preserve personal liberty and privacy rights in the months ahead. Sometimes the people are only too anxious to sacrifice their constitutional liberties during a crisis, hoping to gain some measure of security. Yet nothing would please the terrorists more than if we willingly gave up some of our cherished liberties because of their actions.

We can all pray for peace and ask for God's guidance during these troubling times. I know that our President, our congressional leaders, and all Americans possess the wisdom and compassion required to resolve this devastating crisis.


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I would have been very surprised, had not one of my all time favorite heros, Ron Paul, not given us this charge and this warning.

LET FREEDOM RING!

1 posted on 09/13/2001 5:36:07 PM PDT by JRadcliffe
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To: JRadcliffe
As usual, the Hon. Ron Paul gets to the heart of the matter.
2 posted on 09/13/2001 5:43:31 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: JRadcliffe
There is an understandable sense of urgency in the nation, a sense that Congress should take action immediately. However, we must not kill innocent civilians in our rush to retaliate against those truly responsible.

We are at war. Avoiding killing innocent civilians should not be our number one concern. Collateral damage in war time is unavoidable.

3 posted on 09/13/2001 5:50:42 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: SupplySider
However, we must not kill innocent civilians in our rush to retaliate against those truly responsible.

I agree. That is why, a couple of days before nuking Medina, I would issue a warning that in 2 days, Medina will be nuked; and if anybody doesn't like it, Mecca will be next. That way, innocent civilians need not "see the light"; but if they'd rather not leave, then let the rags fall where they may.

4 posted on 09/13/2001 5:53:49 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: Libertarians
Why all this concern about our Constitution being violated? Our Constitution will be okay if we retaliate, take my word for it. After Kabul digs out from under the rubble, our Constitution will still be there. Why are people trying to muddy the waters at this point in time? We need to focus on 1) who did this, 2) what we're going to do about it, and 3) true security at our airports, hopefully without the present system of "rejects," (I got this straight from Neal Boortz, king of the Libertarians, so you geeky types hear this out), who are more concerned with their fingernails than policing passengers and providing a safe flight for those involved. If it's Libertarianism you're selling, this is the wrong time (I always suspect these supposedly "informative" Ron Paul posts). Let's support Bush and our government now, and stop trying to use this incident for personal gain! The gall of some people!!!!!!
5 posted on 09/13/2001 6:13:33 PM PDT by Malcolm
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To: Malcolm
If you really believe that being a watchdog for liberty is somehow taking advantage of this situation...well, I really don't know what to say to you.
6 posted on 09/13/2001 6:18:20 PM PDT by jess35
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To: sinkspur
How high would killing innocent civilians rank on your list of "concerns?" Just curious.
7 posted on 09/13/2001 6:20:51 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: SupplySider
Yes indeed. He is a rare voice of sanity especially compared to the many folks here who want to nuke or otherwise exterminate millions of babies that might happen to get in the way.
8 posted on 09/13/2001 6:23:37 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: sinkspur
Wow. I actually agree with you on something...

However, I do understand Mr. Paul's concern, but I just don't think it will be feasible.

9 posted on 09/13/2001 6:24:26 PM PDT by pocat
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To: JRadcliffe
Ron Paul for Senate!!!
11 posted on 09/13/2001 6:31:22 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: Austin Willard Wright
How high would killing innocent civilians rank on your list of "concerns?"

It's number two.

But worrying about civilian death is a distant number two to destroying terrorists and the leaders of countries who sponsor them.

Even the Pope didn't say a word in his message to Bush about retribution. He knows this must be avenged.

12 posted on 09/13/2001 6:41:55 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Re: " Collateral damage in war time is unavoidable."

Sinkspur - my thoughts exactly. Sent the following to Ron a few moments ago:


Re: "However, we must not kill innocent civilians in our rush to retaliate against those truly responsible."

Well Ron - you lost me on this one. In fact, for you of all people to utter such, just blows my mind. War is Hell! And there is going to be collateral caualties - there always are. The American public just found out first hand. But, if you want to join the ranks of Jimmie Carter - count me out!!!!!!!

13 posted on 09/13/2001 6:53:23 PM PDT by Cribb
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To: Malcolm
"Why all this concern about our Constitution being violated? Our Constitution will be okay if we retaliate, take my word for it."

Sorry but I rarely trust the word of government. I know I'm not going to trust someone I don't even know.

Protecting our Bill of Rights throughout this time, is not a wasted effort, nor is it something we can afford to take for granted. History has shown us that governments will generally use times of crisis to permanently remove the liberties of its citizens.

While I support the president, I have seen the liberties the US Government is willing to take in order to provide "security" -- for GOVERNMENT.

We must be vigilant!

14 posted on 09/13/2001 9:31:55 PM PDT by JRadcliffe
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To: Austin Willard Wright
"He is a rare voice of sanity especially compared to the many folks here who want to nuke or otherwise exterminate millions of babies that might happen to get in the way."

It has been my personal experience that many of those who claim to be conservative and pro-life are generally heartless socialists.

It is wrong for the "mother" to murder her unborn child, but it is PERFECTLY OK for their beloved government to MURDER innocent children as long as it is to further the aims of the US Government.

I can hardly stomach it when people start talking about leveling the Near East or destroying an entire country of civlians.

Besides that fact that NO PRO-LIFE individual could EVER advocate such things, the devastation the US would incur for such senseless slaughter would place us in far greater danger down the road.

The only way the US could possibly respond to this even greater threat would be to suspend our Constitution -- so these people are actually advocating the destruction of this nation as we know it, when followed to its logical conclusion. But then that's another thing I've noticed about some of the seething, self-righteous posters -- they don't think two seconds past their pontifications!

15 posted on 09/13/2001 9:42:20 PM PDT by JRadcliffe
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To: JRadcliffe
You're very idealistic. Do you think it will be possible to punish the terrorists without more lives lost on both sides?

The fact is, choice has been narrowed for us: Become boot-lickers or retaliate. Retaliation cannot be done surgically. Clinton tried that, it didn't work. We have no choice. Ron Paul does us a disservice to pretend that we have options which can spare innocent lives, and to try to instill guilt (as you are also trying to do).

If we don't kill them, they are going to kill us. And the bad guys aren't wearing special badges so that we can pick them out in a crowd.

16 posted on 09/13/2001 9:57:54 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: JRadcliffe
Just a few comments about your comments.

I am torn. I am pro-life and have even given up support for the death penalty but I find it awfully difficult to not desire the extermination of those involved. While all life is precious I wonder if there is some point at which society can say this person or peoples do not deserve to live. Furthermore, one can think of it in theses terms. Media reports say that 18-20 terrorists were directly responsible. So 20 terrorists killed thousands therefore if a single terrorist can be eliminated then thousands of lives could potentially be saved.

It is a most difficult paradox and all I can do is pray for guidance.
17 posted on 09/13/2001 10:12:15 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Rocky
"Do you think it will be possible to punish the terrorists without more lives lost on both sides?"

No I don't. I am former military and I understand all too well that many Near and Middle Eastern countries place strategically important targets in the middle of highly populated areas.

My "gripe" here is the advocation of total destruction, which some posters have made. Many civilians in the Middles East are themselves oppressed. We have provided a safe harbour for many of these people, precisely because we are a GOOD nation. This frenzied hatered is hiding that aspect of our better selves.

One thing is absolutely certain -- the United States is reaping what it has sown. It is only too bad that ONCE AGAIN, our sons will have to pay the price. We must rethink our foreign policy and soon.

18 posted on 09/14/2001 6:35:36 PM PDT by JRadcliffe
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To: Texas_Jarhead
"It is a most difficult paradox and all I can do is pray for guidance."

I understand EXACTLY what you mean. Gee, I thought I was alone in my feelings. It's nice to know there are others.

I will pray for you. Please pray for me.

Your fellow American.

19 posted on 09/14/2001 6:37:55 PM PDT by JRadcliffe
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