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Political cartoonist Rex Babin's work appears in The Bee five times weekly. A native of Walnut Creek, Babin previously worked at the Albany Times Union for 10 years. He also spent time at the Orange Coast Daily Pilot and the Denver Post. He is a graduate of San Diego State University. During his time in Albany, he won numerous awards for his cartoons, including recognition from the Fischetti Editorial Cartoon Competition, the Hearst Newspapers Award of Excellence and numerous best-of-state prizes from the Associated Press.

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This is the weak resolution the Senate is working on. Compare it to a real declaration of war from 1941

SJ 22 ES

107th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. J. RES. 22

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JOINT RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of the Senate and House of Representatives regarding the terrorist attacks launched against the United States on September 11, 2001.

Whereas on September 11, 2001, terrorists hijacked and destroyed four civilian aircraft, crashing two of them into the towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, and a third into the Pentagon outside Washington, D.C.;

Whereas thousands of innocent Americans were killed and injured as a result of these attacks, including the passengers and crew of the four aircraft, workers in the World Trade Center and in the Pentagon, rescue workers, and bystanders;

Whereas these attacks destroyed both towers of the World Trade Center, as well as adjacent buildings, and seriously damaged the Pentagon; and

Whereas these attacks were by far the deadliest terrorist attacks ever launched against the United States, and, by targeting symbols of American strength and success, clearly were intended to intimidate our Nation and weaken its resolve: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That Congress--

(1) condemns in the strongest possible terms the terrorists who planned and carried out the September 11, 2001, attacks against the United States, as well as their sponsors;

(2) extends its deepest condolences to the victims of these heinous and cowardly attacks, as well as to their families, friends, and loved ones;

(3) is certain that the people of the United States will stand united as our Nation begins the process of recovering and rebuilding in the aftermath of these tragic acts;

(4) commends the heroic actions of the rescue workers, volunteers, and State and local officials who responded to these tragic events with courage, determination, and skill;

(5) declares that these premeditated attacks struck not only at the people of America, but also at the symbols and structures of our economic and military strength, and that the United States is entitled to respond under international law;

(6) thanks those foreign leaders and individuals who have expressed solidarity with the United States in the aftermath of the attacks, and asks them to continue to stand with the United States in the war against international terrorism;

(7) commits to support increased resources in the war to eradicate terrorism;

(8) supports the determination of the President, in close consultation with Congress, to bring to justice and punish the perpetrators of these attacks as well as their sponsors; and

(9) declares that September 12, 2001, shall be a National Day of Unity and Mourning, and that when Congress adjourns today, it stands adjourned out of respect to the victims of the terrorist attacks.

Passed the Senate September 12, 2001.

Compare that wimpy drivel to this:

JOINT RESOLUTION

Declaring that a state of war exists between the Imperial Government of Japan and the Government and the people of the United States and making provisions to prosecute the same.

Whereas the Imperial Government of Japan has committed unprovoked acts of war against the Government and the people of the United States of America:

Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the state of war between the United States and the Imperial Government of Japan which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared;

and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan; and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.

Approved, December 8, 1941, 4:10 p.m. E.S.T.

Apparently there is some major funny business going on in the Senate, even in this time of "bi-partisanship".

I am disgusted.

Please US House save us from this insult to all who have died.

I called Rick Rodriguez and left a message. What a scum bag!!

To compare the events of Tuesday with the event depicted is to overlook a number of facts. 1) The U.S. and North Vietnam were at war; both sides were activly involved in pursuing a declared war. 2) The running children were escaping a napalm attack that had as its intended target combatants, not children. 3) The U.S. Soldiers who were able to, rendered assistance to the very children you see running. 4) Children of the age pictured were often used as combatants in the Vietnam war. The publisher of this paper should be ostercized by his own peers, not for printing the picture, but for misrepresenting the facts. Whoever is responsible for this vile characterisation and the publishing of it has much; very much in common with those who planned and executed last Tuesdays attack

William Tecumseh Sherman- "I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast."

Bump.

Tom DeLay said on the radio in the Washington, D.C. today that the reason the Senate does not want to vote for a "declaration of war" is because such a vote would cause us to be bound by rules of the Geneva Convention, and we will want to fight "dirtier" than allowed. Fighting on our own terms is what it will take to prevail against this type of terrorist foe that we are up against.

Did they use this as a cartoon? This is really bad, I doubt they used it in that manner. If they did, that is horrible, simply horribly sickening. Do you have the story that went with it, if one did??? Thanks in Advance...

and we will want to fight "dirtier" than allowed

If I get a vote, I pick this one.

BTW, the man who took the original pic confirmed that it was RVN planes that dropped said napalm.

I posted that earlier, but just put a link...didn't want it to get pulled.

thanks for listing the emails though.

Click above on the source key that says SactoBee YES IT WAS PUBLISHED AS A POLITICAL CARTOON ON Thursday.

OK OK.............call me slow, but what exactly is the point the cartoonist is trying to make?

I'm not sure, but this is one possibility:

The kids in the famous "running from napalm attack" photo from the Vietnam War illustrated, in stark terms, the horror........and sadness.........of innocents caught in the crossfire; people who suffer who didn't deserve to suffer as one side or another prosecutes violence on the other side.

It is true that many New Yorkers, totally innocent, were also caught in the horrible violence perpetrated by one "side" against another.

Trouble is, we didn't know that we were truly at war this time.

Still, if his intent was to illustrate the horror of non-combatants being bloodied and battered, it was effective.

Somewhere on the FR archives is an article about that little girl -- if I remember right she now lives in Canada.

Tom DeLay said on the radio in the Washington, D.C. today that the reason the Senate does not want to vote for a "declaration of war" is because such a vote would cause us to be bound by rules of the Geneva Convention, and we will want to fight "dirtier" than allowed

I think that is quite true. We signed the Geneva Convention and it outlaws things we will need to do. The Islamic fundamentalists will not be bound by any rule of war, we should not be either. Our media will crusify our president if he accepts the limits of a declaration of war.

But words on paper count for nothing. Laws do not count, courts do not count, and teh congress does not count.. If a president has the support of the american people he can do what he wants. Bill Clinton proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

We kicked Nixon out for lying to the american people. We gave Bill Clinton a sixty percent approval rating for lying to the American poeple.

Anyone who has spent even a short time studying American history will understand that HERE the People rule. If the people want it done, it will be done. Japanese citizens were put in concentration camps in December 1941. It did not matter what the constitution said. This is America. It does not matter what any piece of paper says. It only maters what the Amercian people want done. They wanted perfectly loyal Japanese citizens put in concentration camps and FDR put them in concentration camps. The Americans did not want Japanese Americans to serve in the Pacific theater of WWII and not a single Japanese did. We drafted Amercians of japanese descent, trained them and sent every one of htem to Europe.

You may or may not like it, but that his the way it works.

Excellent point. What I interpreted DeLay as saying, coupled with Senator John Warner's statement broadcast yesterday, is that the American people will get what they want: retribution and accountability. Warner said what the Senate is working on will actually have "more teeth" than the "declaration of war" and DeLay's statement explains why. Thankfully, I don't think the will of the American people is going to be denied on this one, either.

This is what I wrote to that Clymer.

Your editorial cartoon of September 13, 2001, comparing the terrorist attack to a Vietnam War air attack is tasteless, unconscionable, and just plain out of line.

Your readers will draw the conclusion you intend - that it's somehow "our fault" or that "we got what we deserved".
You KNOW that this comparison is based on a falsehood; that the forces bombing the Vietnamese village were American.
In fact, they were NOT. The SOUTH VIETNAMESE strafed and bombed that village that day.

Really doesn't matter, though, does it? If you can plant a few seeds of doubt and discord, you're happy.

VietNam was NOT a declared war.