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Russia Knew in Advance, Encouraged Citizens to Cash Out Dollars
Newsmax ^ | 9-17-01 | Dr. Alexandr Nemets

Posted on 09/16/2001 8:26:21 PM PDT by Wallace T.

Russian press accounts and other activities by the Russian government this summer indicate that the Russian knew in advance that something would happen to America, including a "financial attack" against the U.S.

During the past three months, Russian media and officials have encouraged citizens to cash out of U.S. dollars pending an economic collapse there after an "attack."

Currently, the dominant view of the media is that the terrorist actions in New York City and Washington were just a "thunder bolt from the blue sky."

Could it be? Yes, a well organized group accomplished these dastardly acts. But just how well organized was it?

Obviously, President Bush and Vice-President Cheney are targeting the powers behind these terrorist groups, the states that give them safe harbor and backing.

Sponsors of state terrorism include Iran, Iraq, Libya, Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria.

Did you know that all of these countries have very close ties with Russia and her military/intelligence agencies?

Could it be that the Russians actually expected this in advance and even counted on it, discussing the possible consequences?

My suspicions were raised this July and August as I scanned and sifted through all of Russia's major newspapers.

Considering Russia's close ties to these terrorist countries, Russian activities need close scrutiny.

Pravda Wrote of Financial 'Attack' on U.S.

Consider the July 12, 2001 page-one report in Pravda - still considered the establishment voice of Russia's old guard communists who control the military and intelligence agencies.

The Pravda article was entitled "?The Dollar and America Will Fall Down on August 19? ? That's the Opinion of Dr. Tatyana Koryagina, Who Very [accurately] predicted the August Default in 1998."

This article struck me for several reasons. Major newspapers so closely aligned with the government do not attempt to create panic or fear in the public -- unless the government wants this information to be publicly aired.

Also, a major newspaper would be reluctant to print a major prediction for which it could be held accountable.

This Pravda article was published about the same time as another strange event that took place in early July in the Russian State Duma.

The Duma held a conference entitled "On the measures to provide the development of Russian economy in the environment of destabilization of the world financial system."

The chairman of the Duma Commission on Economic Politics, Dr. Sergei Glazyev, headed the hearings.

Some prominent foreigners, including Lyndon Larouche from the U.S. and Malaysian Ambassador in Russia, Yacha Baba, were among the participants.

Tatyana Koryagina made a statement at the end of hearings ? as a Russian expert in the shadow economy, shadow politics and conspirology.

She is a senior research fellow in the Institute of Macroeconomic Researches subordinated to Russian Ministry of Economic Development (Minekonom). The main theme of the Duma hearings was the rapidly approaching economic crash of the U.S.

The hearings focused on preparing recommendations for President Putin as to what Russia should to do to soften the consequences of this coming catastrophe.

Pravda also detailed its own interview with Dr. Koryagina.

Here is an excerpt:

Question. All the participants at the hearings stated that America is a huge financial pyramid, which will crash soon. Still, it is hard to understand how this could happen in the first and richest country of the world "without a war, without missile or bomb strikes."

Koryagina: Besides bombs and missiles, there are other kinds of weaponry, much more destructive ones. . . .

Question: Well, economic theory. But how it is possible for you to give an exact date (for the U.S. crash) ? August 19?

Koryagina: The U.S. is engaged in a mortal economic game. The known history of civilization is merely the visible part of the iceberg. There is a shadow economy, shadow politics and also a shadow history, known to conspirologists. There are (unseen) forces acting in the world, unstoppable for (most powerful) countries and even continents.

Question: Just these forces intend to smash America on August 19?

Koryagina:There are international, "super-state" and "super-government" groups. In accordance with tradition, the mystical and religious components play extremely important roles in human history. One must take into account the shadow economy, shadow politics and the religious component, while predicting the development of the present financial situation. Question. Still I don't understand what could be done to this giant country [i.e., the U.S.], whose budget is calculated in the trillions of dollars.

Koryagina: It is possible to do anything to the U.S. . . .whose total debt has reached $26 trillion. Generally, the Western economy is at the boiling point now. Shadow financial actives of $300 trillion are hanging over the planet. At any moment, they could fall on any stock exchange and cause panic and crash. The recent crisis in Southeast Asia, which touched Russia, was a rehearsal.

Question: . . .What is the sense of smashing just America?

Koryagina: The U.S. has been chosen as the object of financial attack because the financial center of the planet is located there. The effect will be maximal. The strike waves of economic crisis will spread over the planet instantly, and will remind us of the blast of a huge nuclear bomb. ? Question: Did Russia's crisis of 1998 have this religious-mystical component?

Koryagina: . . .The Russian crisis of 1998 was preconditioned by internal factors. Yeltsin's policy enlarged its consequences. Now we have President Putin, and this is a good choice.

Question: What do we have to do now?

Koryagina: Recommendations, compiled by the Duma Commission of Economic Politics after the recent Duma hearings, offer instruction on what should be done to escape the consequences of a world crisis inspired by a financial catastrophe in the U.S. This document will be sent or has already been sent to President Putin.

Question: What should Russian citizens do?

Koryagina: They should start changing their dollars for rubles. President Putin and the Russian Central Bank are already taking the necessary healthy measures. There are high chances that after 19 August the ruble will become a very good currency.

Question: Why 19 August and, say, not the 21st?

Koryagina: Some fluctuation in this date is possible. Serious forces are acting against THOSE WHO ARE NOW PREPARING THE ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES. August, with very high probability, will bring the financial catastrophe to the U.S. . . .The last 10 days of August have especial importance from a religious-sensible point of view.

It is important to note this story was not an isolated one, or a cute, human interest story as one may find occasionally on the cover of the Wall Street Journal.

It was a serious news report, and story, dicussed widely in Russia, including on national TV programs. The thrust of the story was that Russian officials were strongly encouraging its citizens to cash out of the U.S. dollar.

It is also important to understand that Dr. Koryagina is one of the leading economists in a Russian social group which, from the very beginning, has fiercely opposed "radical economic reform? in Russia. She is a firm supporter of President Putin.

She and her network actively support Putin, especially his foreign policy aimed at the diminishing America's global role.

In particular, they support Putin's policy of engagement of Iran, Iraq and other nations of concern. Dr. Koryagina herself should be considered as an insightful, well-connected and well-informed person.

Dr. Koryagina says much about the invisible and unstoppable "international mystical-religious forces" preparing an attack on the U.S.

It looks like she knows the real nature of these forces and tries to disguise them in a "conspiratorial fog."

She is sure that such an attack or strike of some kind sudden and effective enough - will really take place, and will cause panic and an ensuing crash of the U.S. financial system and the world financial system, already unstable. However, Dr. Koryagina evidently does not know the exact mechanism of the attack.

Duma Warned Citizens to Cash out Dollars

The hearings in the Duma, which has become a rubber stump for President Putin, have been inspired without doubt by the Kremlin, "taking the necessary healthy measures" in advance of a U.S. crash and world crisis.

The Kremlin clearly is thinking how it should operate in the "new world" after the expected U.S. crash.

It is my belief that the Kremlin provided Dr. Koryagina with a very small part of its information on the forthcoming attack against the U.S.

Another article on this same theme was published by Pravda on July 17, 2001.

It was an interview with the Chairman of the Duma Commission on Economic Politics Dr. Sergei Glazyev--indeed, one of the most prominent Russian economists.

The article was entitled "The Dollar and the U.S. Could Fall at Any Moment."

Dr. Glazyev, in his answers, did not mention the forces preparing an attack on the U.S. and its financial system.

He merely discussed the forms and scales of the forthcoming financial catastrophe in the U.S. and its consequences for Russia mostly, beneficial ones if the necessary measures are taken in advance.

In particularly, like Dr. Koryagina, Dr. Glazyev advised the Russian public to change dollars for rubles and predicted that "the ruble will become the reserve currency for Eurasia, particularly in trade with China and India."

Third Article, More Media

Pravda published a third article on this theme on 31 July ? 1 August 2001. This article was called "The Dollar and the U.S. Will Fall" and compiled in the form of an interview with the Malaysian Ambassador in Russia.

Other Moscow newspapers published articles of this kind also.

As a result, New York's Russian-language TV channel in early August was forced to state that "the Moscow rumors are ungrounded." Within a few days the public forgot all about this story.

The tone of Moscow economists predicting the crash of the U.S. financial-economic system is confident and somewhat delightful: "Finally, it is going to happen!"

They are not only discussing the future, they are evidently trying to issue a self-fulfilling prophecy transforming this future into the present. This is because the prospects described in the above articles are extremely attractive for the Russian elite for the following reasons:

a) It will become possible to pay off Russia?s huge foreign debts with devalued dollars; it would be really easy enough if oil prices jumped to $100 per barrel or more.

b) Russia would become really equal among a weakened G-8 group of nations.

c) Investment conditions in Russia would become really attractive in comparison to the bleak global background. Russia could become the goal of huge foreign investment.

d) If the U.S. military might is undermined (and it might be, if the financial system collapses), Russia will regain its control over the former Soviet republics, spread it to the Balkans and will reacquire its former super-empire status.

Such a prize, such a temptation for the criminal Russian elite! One small push, and such great booty! While reading these articles, it is almost possible to visualize how they are licking their lips with excitement.

So, those in Moscow had very serious reasons not to share information with the U.S. about the coming attack on the latter if they indeed had such information.

Very likely, they did, and the maximum amount of information was concentrated in Kremlin. According to numerous statements published by prominent U.S. economists after the tragedy, the time and places of the attacks were chosen--more precisely, pretty well calculated, as if the terrorists or those backing them had tried to do their best to undermine the U.S. financial system and political system and to cause a financial-economic crisis in the U.S.

There is some evidence that one jet, a TWA plane at JFK Airport, did not take off and perhaps another crash was thwarted. Was it intended for the New York Stock Exchange?

"It wasn't a healthy economy to begin with, and this could be just enough to push us into a mild recession and render a blow to consumer confidence," one of these economists told the UPI.

He continued: "There has been a complete disruption of passenger flights. Besides the airline industry, tourism, retail and the shipping sectors will feel the negative effects of Tuesday's attack. Tougher security measures now in place at the nation's airports will increase shipping and travel expenses that will be passed along to the consumer."

And the consumer confidence index, low already, declined additionally.

However, those in Moscow very probably waited for much greater effects.

Remarkably, immediately after the events in New York and Washington -- at approximately 6 P.M. Moscow time -- the dollar exchange rate in Moscow street exchanges fell from 29 rubles to 15-20 rubles--as if the Moscow financial experts had awaited the strikes or expected greater panic and collapse.

It is important to note that such a great fluctuation in the exchange rate happened in no other world capital. The next day, the dollar in Moscow gradually returned to its previous exchange rate.

A network of terrorists groups ? mostly in the U.S. and Middle East -- were merely the fingers implementing the terrorist strikes.

After all, Arab terrorists groups are supported by rogue nations --Libya, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Sudan.

These countries are "hands".

U.S. Needs to Look at Source

Now, if the U.S. and NATO forces carry out retaliatory strikes on Afghanistan, the "hands" will be punished.

And where is the body, the heart of the beast?

And who provides the advanced military technology--including that needed for "special actions"--to these nations of concern? Who supports them in the UN? After all, who demonstrates daily the desire to diminish or undermine America's global influence?

Moscow and Beijing. And Moscow, probably, is even more evil and impudent. Let us think about the Moscow rulers.

Yes, of course, Putin immediately sent condolences to President Bush and the American people.

It should be taken into account here that, in September 1999 Putin consummately used the apartment explosions in Moscow and Volgodonsk (KGB-organized actions, in the opinion of most of the Russian media and in the opinion of the author) to gain supreme power in Russia.

Now the Kremlin is making statements about a "joint struggle against world terrorism, "about the ties between the actions in New York and the actions in Moscow in September 1999."

Indeed, these are probably closely tied to one another, and the same forces are remaining behind the actions in New York and in Moscow. But what is the real name of these forces? The investigation should go to the bottom of the barrel and provide the proper answer.

Editor's note: NewsMax columnist, Col. Stanislav Lunev, has warned of Russia's plans against the U.S. NewsMax has just published his audiotape set calle "CIA Files." Click here for more info.

Dr. Nemets is a consultant to Science Applications International Corp. (SAIC) and American Foreign Policy Council (AFPC). An expert in Chinese-Russian strategic-military alliance development, he has spent the last several years researching Chinese and Russian economic and military issues. Dr. Nemets worked from 1986-92 at the Presidium of Russian Academy of Sciences. He immigrated to the United States in December 1994.

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I am not sure if Russia was the "hidden hand" behind the attacks of 9/11. However, the coordination and skill we saw goes well beyond the capacity of a terrorist gang or even a government like that of Iraq.
1 posted on 09/16/2001 8:26:21 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.,pericles, hamiltonian
Russia loves islamic extremists as much as I love the albanian kla....NOT AT ALL!

They are fighting them in Chetnya and 2 years ago, I believe ...the terrorists from Chetyna bombed an apartment building in Moscow.

We need to fight the islamic terrorists WITH Russia!!

Our own CIA had armed bin laden to fight the Soviets back in the 1980's...now...we get BLOWBACK!!

We need all the help we can get.

2 posted on 09/16/2001 8:39:08 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Wallace T.
Another scoop from Rumormax!
3 posted on 09/16/2001 8:44:53 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Wallace T.
Today's main article in Interfax News Agency is about destablilization of dollar and its financial repercussions. It was more reassuring in its tone, saying there will be no big jolt. It was interesting because WTC attack and associated events are pushed aside and this financial news showed up on top. Finally, I always thought that one sure way to weaken U.S. is to attack overvalued stock markets and overvalued dollars instead of launching ICBM. Since these markets are moved by human perceptions and emotions, WTC attack is the prefect way to achieve it. Shattered nerves will create sudden drop in the market which can create chain-reactions. I am not sure if Russia is another player in this terrorist plot. But, if they already knew, then they can get out of the market while U.S. and other countries take the shock wave. Russia can be strong again, in relative sense. For now these are all (informed) speculations. But this is very intriguing proposition.
4 posted on 09/16/2001 8:44:56 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Wallace T.
However, the coordination and skill we saw

I've been hearing heaps about the "sophistacation" behind the attack.... so maybe someone can actually help me out here..... The way i see it, the most sophistaceted part of the whole operation was learning how to fly a plane..... the Hijacking of aircraft isn't rocket science, which is what this eseentially is..... Furthermore, as i understand it, they didn't have any trouble actaully boarding the planes, therefore it would be very easy to time the attacks.....

If people want to implicate Russia, perhaps they should have good, credible evidence and not mere speculation.... Besides, the fact that the American economy was on the skids way before this actaully even happened, should be taken into account.... Has anybody ever thought that maybe Russia's economic shifts might be to diminish the economic impact of a war in the middle east (which has been on the brink for a long time now)? The prospect of such a war has been spoken about by practically everybody for a long time..... or maybe to remove its reliance on America in economical spheres (they are still adversaries you know)

How about this....... The Bush administration has been going crazy in the past few months about spending more on defense..... Maybe the CIA orchestrated the attacks to allow for greater involvement in the Middle East and to increase spending on defense.... Sound crazy? About as crazy as the FSB bombing its own people..... Heres another one..... Maybe it was orchestrated by the EU.... They were already starting to lean towards Russia in many spheres... This would certainly boost the value of the Euro (but wouldn't do much for their economy - in the short term, but nobobdy plans such an elaborate operation with short-term gains in mind)... Perhaps it was China..... Maybe Israel, to pull the US into the MidEast.... Maybe it was God....

OR maybe it was just a group of fanatical muslims who hate American foreign policy and decided to kill as many people as possible in the name of Jihad...... You decide.....

6 posted on 09/16/2001 8:59:42 PM PDT by enrg
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To: Wallace T.
bump
7 posted on 09/16/2001 9:02:00 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: Wallace T.
"... Dr. Nemets is a consultant to Science Applications International Corp. An expert in Chinese-Russian strategic-military alliance development, he has spent the last several years..."

... smoking crack.

8 posted on 09/16/2001 9:09:33 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Wallace T., crazykatz
However, the coordination and skill we saw goes well beyond the capacity of a terrorist gang or even a government like that of Iraq.

Agreed. But well within the ability of terrorist with either direct training from the CIA or by those once trained by the CIA.

By the way, Bin Ladin, in a widely circulated video speech warned of an attack on financial markets aimed at the USA (it seems Bin Ladin always gives a warning just before an attack to tweak the Great Satan).

Maybe our spooks just suck, and the Russian spooks don't.

Lastly, the credibility of the source (or lack there of) is a factor.

9 posted on 09/16/2001 9:13:56 PM PDT by Pericles
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To: enrg
If killing Americans was their aim, terrorists would have killed far more this weekend by dropping fragmentation bombs at any one of several dozen college and NFL games than the 5,000+ who died on 9/11 as a result of the World Trade Center and Pentagon bombings. The targets were greater than that of dead Americans; they were symbols of American economic and military power. The level of sophistication far exceeds that we have seen from bin Laden in the past, or from any terrorist group anywhere in the world.

I am not convinced Russia was involved. But there is evidence that the terrorists had access to information and training that only a major power could provide. Eliminate Britain or any European power, Israel, Japan, or our own people, and who do you have left with the skill and resources to pull it off?

10 posted on 09/16/2001 9:17:16 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Pericles
Bin Laden's US training is of 1980s vintage. No doubt he learned a lot, but the knowledge shown of weak points in air defenses, airport surveillance, and even the itinerary of the President indicates could not have derived from that era. Nor could the 20-28 year old terrorists who were competent enough to steer passenger planes to ground zero have received CIA training.

Perhaps President Bush's warning of a protracted conflict means we are dealing with forces much more formidable than a few hundred or thousand terrorists.

11 posted on 09/16/2001 9:23:58 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: enrg
I agree. What scares me about this thing is that it really isn't that complicated. Yes, it is ingenious, but it wasn't that complicated. It was just a matter of some people who wanted to attack us figuirng a way to use our own assets against us.

Like you said, the only complicated part of the attack was training the pilots. Figuring out what weapons would make it through airline "security" might have taken a little work but nothing that would require a nation's assistance. Once they figured out our airline security was a joke, they probably just started putting together the rest of the plan.

The thing that disturbs me is that they assimilated into our society and used our freedom that they so despise to plot against us. There's definitely more like them who have assimilated, sharpening their claws and waiting to move.

12 posted on 09/16/2001 9:24:11 PM PDT by JeremyM
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To: Economist_MA
What are your comments on this?
14 posted on 09/16/2001 9:39:03 PM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH
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To: Wallace T.
The author is an ignorant dork.
15 posted on 09/16/2001 9:48:39 PM PDT by madrussian
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To: Wallace T.
It sounds to me like Russia was not really in on the terrorist attacks. I think this because they over-estimated the effects. They probably kicked in money to terrorist forces while saying, "Don't tell us what you're planning, we don't want to know. We just want to know when." It sounds like the former USSR was counting on nuclear attacks from rogue states that did not happen (unless they're still to come?). Hitting the WTC is definitely bad but it won't destroy an entire economy.

[As an aside, what's with the random sprinkling of question marks throughout the article? That's kind of annoying. It wouldn't kill a poster to do some proofreading.]

16 posted on 09/16/2001 9:50:05 PM PDT by Hillary 666
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To: Wallace T.
what a goofy-assed article. seems a whole lot of American financial guys were saying the same thing! jeesh....what a dumb article.
17 posted on 09/16/2001 9:51:06 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Wallace T.
This may or may not be true, however, let's focus on the documentory evidence.
18 posted on 09/16/2001 9:51:41 PM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH
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To: crazykatz
Concur. This is bullsh*t.
19 posted on 09/16/2001 9:53:47 PM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: Wallace T.
weak point in air defenses??? Listen I have an airfram and powerplant license. Those killers learned what they learned in American schools. The training was here. The schools paid for by Bin Ladin's money.
20 posted on 09/16/2001 11:15:06 PM PDT by Pericles
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