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Methodists: Enough About Terrorists – What About The Farm Bill ?
Self ^ | 9/17/2001 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 09/17/2001 6:11:57 PM PDT by moneyrunner

Methodists: Enough About Terrorists – What About The Farm Bill ?

For the Methodists’ General Board of Church and Society (GBCS), September 14 was the time to put the past behind us. As the supporters of Bill Clinton are fond of saying, “Let’s move on.” It’s time to focus on the important issues of the nation: the 2002 Farm Bill.

For the non-Methodists among us, it’s useful to know that this arm of the United Methodist hierarchy is as trendy and politically correct a bunch of Leftists and Liberation Theologians to be found anywhere. Their reading of scripture caused them to oppose Clarence Thomas for the Supreme Court, to bankroll the effort to return Elian Gonzalez to Cuba, to denounce the war on drugs as racist, support public funding of abortion, oppose school prayer, support homosexual scout leaders and oppose missile defense.

If they knew about the Klamath Basin, I can predict with 100% confidence that they would support the sucker fish while advocating the destruction of the farmers – all in the name of Christian values.

Which brings us to the aftermath of the greatest crime to be committed on American soil since Pearl Harbor.

On September 12th the General Secretary of the GBCS, Jim Winkler, issued a milk and water announcement regarding the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. After the obligatory expressions of shock and dismay, the brief message went on to disapprove of retaliation and cautioned us to refrain from rushing to judgment. Having identified the highjackers, both as to individual identity and as to political persuasion, we are now to suspend judgment as to who is responsible? Winkler used the message to exercise his stylistic creativity. Instead of the threadbare formula: “violence never solved anything” he pronounced “more violence bets violence.” That “begets,” sounds so much more Biblical. It’s a one sided formulation, used whenever the US reacts to violent attack. When Leftists use violence, we are urged to understand their frustration.

So it came as no great surprise that the very next announcement out of the GBCS, two days later, was an action alert about the 2002 Farm Bill. When all but the most rabid Democrat has stopped bickering about nonsense issues like the social security “lock box,” and trying to blame President Bush for “spending the surplus” the Giants of the Spiritual World know where their priorities are. The nation faces a major war in which thousands have already died, and thousand more may die. But for the United Methodist Church General Board of Church and Society, God speaks, and what he asks is: what should be done about the 2002 Farm Bill?


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I am officially a Methodist, but I hate what these groups are doing.
1 posted on 09/17/2001 6:11:57 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner
The religeous left?
2 posted on 09/17/2001 6:18:48 PM PDT by lormand
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To: moneyrunner
Good analogy. Methodists’ General Board of Church and Society (GBCS)is the Nabilat of America -- and has just about as much national support. Hint: Nabilat is Taliban going leftward.
5 posted on 09/17/2001 6:26:05 PM PDT by Whilom
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To: lormand
Yes, they are the religious Left. However, the people in the pews are not. The GBCS does not represent the congregation.
6 posted on 09/17/2001 6:27:40 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: BibleBeliever
"Why don't you come out from among them?"

Because I'm going to fight them from within.

8 posted on 09/17/2001 6:28:59 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner
I stopped playing music at the alternative service at the Methodist church I used to go to. I just got sick of the trendy socialist attitudes of the dweebs at the pulpit.

I got along with them fine - but I had their act nailed. I'm not saying this about all the preachers and seminarians at the UMC - but I will venture a generalization about the Duke-educated clergy at the particular church I went to.

These guys, and a couple women, were social misfits that compensated by guilt-tripping the more-or-less successful congregation with what they thought were really hip and progressive ideas. But they would cynically throw in enough traditional keywords, phrases, and parables to cloak all this stuff as if it were traditional Christian fare.

Self-absorbed, shallow careerists they were.

9 posted on 09/17/2001 6:29:36 PM PDT by ctonious
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The senior pastor at my church is Duke educated (as is the associate pastor). I like the senior pastor, he has presided over a growing congregation and is personable. But I believe he has hopes of promotion. The associate is a young woman, who's hopeless at a sermon. I realized a year ago why this is so: her sermons are all about her! Bringing the "life experiences" of an under-30 something single woman to mature people is so insensitive as to make her once-a-month homilies exercises in mental flagellation.
10 posted on 09/17/2001 6:36:53 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner
Glad I'm an ex-Methodist.
11 posted on 09/17/2001 6:38:43 PM PDT by Dakotabound
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To: Whilom
Sounds like you're a Methodist. Why do you think Fassett is no longer in charge? The Elian controversy?
12 posted on 09/17/2001 6:38:53 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: Ron Fletcher
Organized Protestant churches have been taken over by sickies. Their membership is down, and with wonderful reason.

Please do not make these type of blanket statements. Referring to all Protestants in one sentence is highly ignorant.

13 posted on 09/17/2001 6:40:31 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh
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To: Dakotabound
"Glad I'm an ex-Methodist."

Tried the Baptist church next door. Distracted by the overhead projector illustrating the sermon via PowerPoint. No thanks, I'm old fashioned.

14 posted on 09/17/2001 6:41:53 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: The Iceman Cometh
Oh my. I was raised a methodist, in fact my great great gf or some such relative was a methodist circuit rider and built one of the oldest churches west of the Mississippi. This is just symptomatic of what is going on in our schools, universitites and probably day care centers. Depressing isn't it.
15 posted on 09/17/2001 6:44:37 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Ron Fletcher
You said, "Organized Protestant churches have been taken over by sickies. Their membership is down, and with wonderful reason."

FYI, I have not seen this in the Baptist church. While Baptists aren't really Protestant, since it's formation was not the result of the reformation, most people lump then in with the true Protestant churchs.
16 posted on 09/17/2001 6:46:38 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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The religious left?

Good surmise. My family and I used to be Methodist, but we're religious, so we left.

17 posted on 09/17/2001 6:49:32 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Some people think that Christianity is binary, Catholic/Protestant. It is a lot more than that.
18 posted on 09/17/2001 7:03:07 PM PDT by lormand
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To: cajungirl
I don't remember any Methodist coming over from Nova Scotia in the 18th century to Louisiana? :)
19 posted on 09/17/2001 7:04:38 PM PDT by lormand
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To: cajungirl
Must've been the times...my GGF was also a circuit riding German Methodist minister...in North Dakota (yay!).

He wouldn't let my grandfather play one of the seven dwarfs in a school play.

How far the denomination has fallen...

20 posted on 09/17/2001 7:41:43 PM PDT by Dakotabound
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