Posted on 09/18/2001 5:48:30 AM PDT by Old Lady
SUICIDE ATTACKS: While many Islamic clerics disagree about whether their religion sanctions suicide bombings, most have weighed in against last week's terrorist attacks
AP
CAIRO, EGYPT
The terror attacks in New York and Washington have lent new urgency to a debate among Islamic scholars about whether their religion sanctions suicide bombings.
Some clerics unreservedly support them, while others are flatly opposed. In between are those who justify suicide bombings by Palestinian groups under Israeli rule, but condemn the attacks in the US.
The Palestinian militants say their attacks in Israel are part of jihad, an Arabic word that literally means to struggle for the cause of religion. For a Muslim, the struggle involves striving to be a better person, donating money to the poor, fulfilling obligations toward the faith and, finally, engaging in combat in defense of Islam.
Abdul-Moti Bayoumi, of the Islamic Research Center at Cairo's al-Azhar University, mainstream Islam's top seat of learning, says for jihad to be legal, it must fulfill several conditions. Among them: a Muslim should not provoke the aggression; a Muslim should only fight the one who fights him; and children, women, and the elderly should be spared.
"There is no terrorism in jihad or a threat to civilians," Bayoumi said. Based on that interpretation, Bayoumi said the suicide attacks in the US were unjustified and therefore considered by Islam as "terror acts." But he said the attacks against Israelis are acceptable because Palestinians don't have the high-tech weapons like Israel's.
If it was a fair fight, he said, "then you will not find anyone who would carry out suicide missions."
The grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheik Abdulaziz al-Sheik, sharply disagrees. He declared in April it is "strictly forbidden in Islam" and that "the one who blows himself up in the midst of the enemies is also performing an act contrary to Islamic teachings."
The opposite view is taken by Sheik Youssef al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian clergyman highly respected among the world's Muslims.
While condemning the attacks in the US, he said rulings against suicide bombings were issued by "people who are alien to Sharia [Islamic laws] and religion."
Sheik Ikrema Sabri, Jerusalem's top Muslim cleric and an appointee of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, took a similar line -- bombings in Israel yes, elsewhere no.
As'ad AbuKhalil, associate professor of political science at California State University at Stanislaus, said suicide attacks, in Israel or the US, have nothing to do with religion. "What is happening today is irrelevant to the concept of jihad," AbuKhalil said. "What is more relevant is the political conditions that are creating an environment of militancy throughout the Muslim and Arab world, such as poverty ... and the Arab-Israeli conflict."
The bombers "have to be seen as extremist lunatic fringes, as crazy as those crazies in America who go to the post office and shoot people at random," he added.
"No average, pious Muslim, even if he or she is promised all sorts of delight in heaven, will do something crazy."
Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.
Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.
Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)
Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...
Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "
Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..
Tuesday was much more than the work of a few lunatics, there are many very deliberate people behind it, who were involved in the planning. Plus many people are pretty complacent about it because they intend to see Islamic domination of the entire world, they don't protest this very loudly because they all believe in it's goals.
These Islamic suiciders are nothing more than sociopathic perverts, as instructed and encouraged by the twisted teachings of the Koran. At the apogee of their murderous pathology, they are thinking only of their entry into an endless sex orgy.
Sick.
Your analogy is an appropriate one. When you read the bin Laden interviews at abcnews.com or the Frontline site at pbs.org, you get the sense you're listening to Hitler in Munich, or paging through an updated version of Mein Kamph.
As with Hitler, there is a perverted apocalyptic "religious" element to this (that's bin Laden's domain), and a nationalistic imperial vision to go along with it.
I am convinced that Saddam Hussein runs that latter part of the program, and there is a suspicious absence of his name in this matter. Why is that?
No kidding. In fact its been reported all manner of Islamist Nazi terrorist groups have encrypted instructions, maps, and messages in porno websites. You won't believe what some Islamist Nazi terrorist web sites like Hamas and Hezbollah link to. So their fascination with sex orgies in the after life extends down to their perverted occupation with it in the present. I'd hazard a guess many of their suicide kamikazes are looking forward to having a sexual banquet this life simply doesn't give them. Quite a motive to die for the glory of Allah.
Thankfully, Christianity rid itself of this type of thinking over the last 100 years.
As long as Moslem nations allow the idea that it is good to force others into Islam, this will continue. Turkey has shown that it is possible to have Islam without mindless Jihad.
Someone mentioned this to me just yesterday. Do you have any additional info (they guy yesterday said he heard it on the news or something).
Not to mention Indonesia, the largest Islamic nation on earth.
Also you have to keep in mind that in order for that culture to preserve the practice of one man having four wives, 3/4 of their men will not marry, will not be part of families. To keep them from trying to take one of the wives of the married men, they must find them another purpose and that is to die for Islam. They have no other purpose, they are not to pass their genes on to the future.
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